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i here what you are saying, sometimes people can be so manipulative, i wonder

where they are coming from.

In my case, i just had to deal w a client who wanted me do something for him,

and i had to go check w my lawyer who said don't do it, so i informed this

client (one of my biggest client), and he got so angry and pissed off, kinda

like a little kid throwing up a tantrum or something.

Anyways, before i fired off an email informing him i wasn't gonna do it, i had

to re-read some of my old self help notes, particularly about avoiding conflict.

Basically i have a habit of avoiding conflict and people pleasing, and as i

re-read it, i defused by taking a professional approach, not making any of it

personal, and simply explain my situation, and stood up for myself and what i

could do and cannot do, and play my cards the best i can and how the deck falls,

so be it.

Anyways, work related stuff here, hardly anything that would come even close to

Values/ACT related.

TC

>

>

> My supervisor is on holiday so the trainee general manager (TGM) has

> taken his post. Our general manger can be strict and unfriendly and my

> supervisor doesn't like him. And most of the workforce don't either.

>

> So I am working hard all day and I tell the T G M I didn't do a job

> because it is in warrentyand I get a stern look from him. I was also too

> busy to do it. Now my general manger (GM) is always telling me not to do

> warrenty work. Later in th day I tell the TGM that I didn't have time

> to finish a another particular job because I was too busy, but I give a

> suggestion that he can use another machine over night instead and I can

> finish this job tomorrow, but for some reason this manager say's this

> can't be done. I then offer to stay on and do overtime which I don't

> really want to do. But he then asks me if I had done this other job

> which was low priority, and I said no and I got sour pursed lips look

> from him again. Now I had asked him earlier in the day what was

> priority. He then say's there no ovetime and the general manager is near

> by listening in tsking note of everything.

>

> Later on the TCM calls me over and this field engineer who has arrived

> and is looking at a warenty job that I had tried to fix the day before.

> I didn't do a lot of work on it because it was in warrenty, but over

> night the fault had cleared. The TGM gave me a look as if I had made a

> mistake. To try to repair it the day before I had programmed it

> differently but it made no difference, but now (today) it was working

> okay under this different program, which is fine. The fault had been

> brought to my attention by another engineer, so the fault was genuine.

>

> Later on the GM say's to my TCM have you told him (me) what happened and

> he say's yes. Then the TGM say's how would you like to travel for 4

> hours and find that there is nothing wrong. I tell him it is the sort of

> thing I like to find. He then say's he will be charged for wasting their

> time. But I tell them it not my fault it self rectified. (This can be

> common.)

>

> I found this hard to defuse from and to cope with the feelings. I can

> see that they have got it in for me and seem to think that I am

> generating overtime, and they might even think I'm slow and incompetant,

> which is not true, I'm just very thorough. Now it was very intimitating

> to be made to feel bad by a jumped nobnody (TGM) who knows nothing about

> high precision electronic engineering and was a manager of a small

> bakery before he got this job.

>

> These managers are new and are trying to make a name for themselves. I

> am far more highly qualified than either of them and yet I felt so

> belittled. This place has become like a concentration camp. I got quite

> scared because I have very little confidence in these situations and I

> began to fear that maybe I was inept and slow, although I know this is

> not true. But when I am treated bad I begin to feel really horrible

> about myself. When my old manager returns from his holidays things will

> improve. He has a very strong personality and really respects me as an

> engineer.

>

> Any thoughts or ideas?

>

> Kaivey

>

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What do you need from the situation to feel better?

>

>

> My supervisor is on holiday so the trainee general manager (TGM) has

> taken his post. Our general manger can be strict and unfriendly and my

> supervisor doesn't like him. And most of the workforce don't either.

>

> So I am working hard all day and I tell the T G M I didn't do a job

> because it is in warrentyand I get a stern look from him. I was also too

> busy to do it. Now my general manger (GM) is always telling me not to do

> warrenty work. Later in th day I tell the TGM that I didn't have time

> to finish a another particular job because I was too busy, but I give a

> suggestion that he can use another machine over night instead and I can

> finish this job tomorrow, but for some reason this manager say's this

> can't be done. I then offer to stay on and do overtime which I don't

> really want to do. But he then asks me if I had done this other job

> which was low priority, and I said no and I got sour pursed lips look

> from him again. Now I had asked him earlier in the day what was

> priority. He then say's there no ovetime and the general manager is near

> by listening in tsking note of everything.

>

> Later on the TCM calls me over and this field engineer who has arrived

> and is looking at a warenty job that I had tried to fix the day before.

> I didn't do a lot of work on it because it was in warrenty, but over

> night the fault had cleared. The TGM gave me a look as if I had made a

> mistake. To try to repair it the day before I had programmed it

> differently but it made no difference, but now (today) it was working

> okay under this different program, which is fine. The fault had been

> brought to my attention by another engineer, so the fault was genuine.

>

> Later on the GM say's to my TCM have you told him (me) what happened and

> he say's yes. Then the TGM say's how would you like to travel for 4

> hours and find that there is nothing wrong. I tell him it is the sort of

> thing I like to find. He then say's he will be charged for wasting their

> time. But I tell them it not my fault it self rectified. (This can be

> common.)

>

> I found this hard to defuse from and to cope with the feelings. I can

> see that they have got it in for me and seem to think that I am

> generating overtime, and they might even think I'm slow and incompetant,

> which is not true, I'm just very thorough. Now it was very intimitating

> to be made to feel bad by a jumped nobnody (TGM) who knows nothing about

> high precision electronic engineering and was a manager of a small

> bakery before he got this job.

>

> These managers are new and are trying to make a name for themselves. I

> am far more highly qualified than either of them and yet I felt so

> belittled. This place has become like a concentration camp. I got quite

> scared because I have very little confidence in these situations and I

> began to fear that maybe I was inept and slow, although I know this is

> not true. But when I am treated bad I begin to feel really horrible

> about myself. When my old manager returns from his holidays things will

> improve. He has a very strong personality and really respects me as an

> engineer.

>

> Any thoughts or ideas?

>

> Kaivey

>

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Work was okay today. The trainee manager was as good as gold because the

general manager (GM) wasn't there. It is obvious that the TM is only acting like

that because this is what he thinks the GM wants. I supervisor will be back from

holiday in a few weeks and he is not scared of the GM at all, so it will be okay

then.

I have decided that you can't fight management because they have all the power.

Not over these sort of things anyway. I don't want any overtime at the momnent

anyway because I hate it now after 20 years of 60 + hours a week. I just felt

victimised.

I allowed the anger to be in my body but I concentrated on my work instead. I

then started to feel a sense of power and ease. I saw that I don't have to be a

victim of my inner feelings.

Kaivey

> >

> >

> > My supervisor is on holiday so the trainee general manager (TGM) has

> > taken his post. Our general manger can be strict and unfriendly and my

> > supervisor doesn't like him. And most of the workforce don't either.

> >

> > So I am working hard all day and I tell the T G M I didn't do a job

> > because it is in warrentyand I get a stern look from him. I was also too

> > busy to do it. Now my general manger (GM) is always telling me not to do

> > warrenty work. Later in th day I tell the TGM that I didn't have time

> > to finish a another particular job because I was too busy, but I give a

> > suggestion that he can use another machine over night instead and I can

> > finish this job tomorrow, but for some reason this manager say's this

> > can't be done. I then offer to stay on and do overtime which I don't

> > really want to do. But he then asks me if I had done this other job

> > which was low priority, and I said no and I got sour pursed lips look

> > from him again. Now I had asked him earlier in the day what was

> > priority. He then say's there no ovetime and the general manager is near

> > by listening in tsking note of everything.

> >

> > Later on the TCM calls me over and this field engineer who has arrived

> > and is looking at a warenty job that I had tried to fix the day before.

> > I didn't do a lot of work on it because it was in warrenty, but over

> > night the fault had cleared. The TGM gave me a look as if I had made a

> > mistake. To try to repair it the day before I had programmed it

> > differently but it made no difference, but now (today) it was working

> > okay under this different program, which is fine. The fault had been

> > brought to my attention by another engineer, so the fault was genuine.

> >

> > Later on the GM say's to my TCM have you told him (me) what happened and

> > he say's yes. Then the TGM say's how would you like to travel for 4

> > hours and find that there is nothing wrong. I tell him it is the sort of

> > thing I like to find. He then say's he will be charged for wasting their

> > time. But I tell them it not my fault it self rectified. (This can be

> > common.)

> >

> > I found this hard to defuse from and to cope with the feelings. I can

> > see that they have got it in for me and seem to think that I am

> > generating overtime, and they might even think I'm slow and incompetant,

> > which is not true, I'm just very thorough. Now it was very intimitating

> > to be made to feel bad by a jumped nobnody (TGM) who knows nothing about

> > high precision electronic engineering and was a manager of a small

> > bakery before he got this job.

> >

> > These managers are new and are trying to make a name for themselves. I

> > am far more highly qualified than either of them and yet I felt so

> > belittled. This place has become like a concentration camp. I got quite

> > scared because I have very little confidence in these situations and I

> > began to fear that maybe I was inept and slow, although I know this is

> > not true. But when I am treated bad I begin to feel really horrible

> > about myself. When my old manager returns from his holidays things will

> > improve. He has a very strong personality and really respects me as an

> > engineer.

> >

> > Any thoughts or ideas?

> >

> > Kaivey

> >

>

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I am so glad you had a better day. I am in awe of your ability to have those bad

feelings and still somehow end up with a feeling of power and ease. I see that

is where I want to be but am not. Still so afraid that the anxiety is going to

be more than I can handle and still keep functioning. Which particular ACT

exercise would help with this??

> > >

> > >

> > > My supervisor is on holiday so the trainee general manager (TGM) has

> > > taken his post. Our general manger can be strict and unfriendly and my

> > > supervisor doesn't like him. And most of the workforce don't either.

> > >

> > > So I am working hard all day and I tell the T G M I didn't do a job

> > > because it is in warrentyand I get a stern look from him. I was also too

> > > busy to do it. Now my general manger (GM) is always telling me not to do

> > > warrenty work. Later in th day I tell the TGM that I didn't have time

> > > to finish a another particular job because I was too busy, but I give a

> > > suggestion that he can use another machine over night instead and I can

> > > finish this job tomorrow, but for some reason this manager say's this

> > > can't be done. I then offer to stay on and do overtime which I don't

> > > really want to do. But he then asks me if I had done this other job

> > > which was low priority, and I said no and I got sour pursed lips look

> > > from him again. Now I had asked him earlier in the day what was

> > > priority. He then say's there no ovetime and the general manager is near

> > > by listening in tsking note of everything.

> > >

> > > Later on the TCM calls me over and this field engineer who has arrived

> > > and is looking at a warenty job that I had tried to fix the day before.

> > > I didn't do a lot of work on it because it was in warrenty, but over

> > > night the fault had cleared. The TGM gave me a look as if I had made a

> > > mistake. To try to repair it the day before I had programmed it

> > > differently but it made no difference, but now (today) it was working

> > > okay under this different program, which is fine. The fault had been

> > > brought to my attention by another engineer, so the fault was genuine.

> > >

> > > Later on the GM say's to my TCM have you told him (me) what happened and

> > > he say's yes. Then the TGM say's how would you like to travel for 4

> > > hours and find that there is nothing wrong. I tell him it is the sort of

> > > thing I like to find. He then say's he will be charged for wasting their

> > > time. But I tell them it not my fault it self rectified. (This can be

> > > common.)

> > >

> > > I found this hard to defuse from and to cope with the feelings. I can

> > > see that they have got it in for me and seem to think that I am

> > > generating overtime, and they might even think I'm slow and incompetant,

> > > which is not true, I'm just very thorough. Now it was very intimitating

> > > to be made to feel bad by a jumped nobnody (TGM) who knows nothing about

> > > high precision electronic engineering and was a manager of a small

> > > bakery before he got this job.

> > >

> > > These managers are new and are trying to make a name for themselves. I

> > > am far more highly qualified than either of them and yet I felt so

> > > belittled. This place has become like a concentration camp. I got quite

> > > scared because I have very little confidence in these situations and I

> > > began to fear that maybe I was inept and slow, although I know this is

> > > not true. But when I am treated bad I begin to feel really horrible

> > > about myself. When my old manager returns from his holidays things will

> > > improve. He has a very strong personality and really respects me as an

> > > engineer.

> > >

> > > Any thoughts or ideas?

> > >

> > > Kaivey

> > >

> >

>

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A few years back I would have not handled it well at all. Also, I was so cash

starved then, with my wacking great mortgage, that any loss of overtime would

have been very distressing. If fact this did happen when this manager was a

supervisor for 3 months 3 years ago. Luckily it didn't last.

One way I handled this today was to just accept these unpleasant feelings. Just

let them be there. I knew struggling and trying to make it go would only make

things worse so I willingly suffered instead. I did this while trying to keep my

focus on what I was doing. It wasn't easy.

First thing in the morning my manager was desperate but I did this job to my

usual high standard at reasonble speed much to his distress. I was going to

write on this site that I found this imploding anger much more painful than any

depresion I have ever experienced. Still, I began to feel better later on in the

day and I saw that the trainee manager was a really nice guy.

It was at this point I began to feel very guilty thinking I had made a storm in

a teacup. My inner critic kicked in and I felt absolute shame and then I saw my

mum's face in my mind. It was like I was 5 years old again and there she was

hating me. I remembered how when I was young I would walk past her coat on the

hook by the front door before she had got up and I would feel scared, sick, and

worried. She did love me (so I foumd out later), but she was so unhappy with her

life with my father at the time. She worked really hard to provide me food and

cloths but was very resentful because she hated her life.

So that's how it went today, I decided on acceptance which was damn hard.

Fortunately, it started to get a lot easier by late morning.

Kaivey

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > My supervisor is on holiday so the trainee general manager (TGM) has

> > > > taken his post. Our general manger can be strict and unfriendly and my

> > > > supervisor doesn't like him. And most of the workforce don't either.

> > > >

> > > > So I am working hard all day and I tell the T G M I didn't do a job

> > > > because it is in warrentyand I get a stern look from him. I was also too

> > > > busy to do it. Now my general manger (GM) is always telling me not to do

> > > > warrenty work. Later in th day I tell the TGM that I didn't have time

> > > > to finish a another particular job because I was too busy, but I give a

> > > > suggestion that he can use another machine over night instead and I can

> > > > finish this job tomorrow, but for some reason this manager say's this

> > > > can't be done. I then offer to stay on and do overtime which I don't

> > > > really want to do. But he then asks me if I had done this other job

> > > > which was low priority, and I said no and I got sour pursed lips look

> > > > from him again. Now I had asked him earlier in the day what was

> > > > priority. He then say's there no ovetime and the general manager is near

> > > > by listening in tsking note of everything.

> > > >

> > > > Later on the TCM calls me over and this field engineer who has arrived

> > > > and is looking at a warenty job that I had tried to fix the day before.

> > > > I didn't do a lot of work on it because it was in warrenty, but over

> > > > night the fault had cleared. The TGM gave me a look as if I had made a

> > > > mistake. To try to repair it the day before I had programmed it

> > > > differently but it made no difference, but now (today) it was working

> > > > okay under this different program, which is fine. The fault had been

> > > > brought to my attention by another engineer, so the fault was genuine.

> > > >

> > > > Later on the GM say's to my TCM have you told him (me) what happened and

> > > > he say's yes. Then the TGM say's how would you like to travel for 4

> > > > hours and find that there is nothing wrong. I tell him it is the sort of

> > > > thing I like to find. He then say's he will be charged for wasting their

> > > > time. But I tell them it not my fault it self rectified. (This can be

> > > > common.)

> > > >

> > > > I found this hard to defuse from and to cope with the feelings. I can

> > > > see that they have got it in for me and seem to think that I am

> > > > generating overtime, and they might even think I'm slow and incompetant,

> > > > which is not true, I'm just very thorough. Now it was very intimitating

> > > > to be made to feel bad by a jumped nobnody (TGM) who knows nothing about

> > > > high precision electronic engineering and was a manager of a small

> > > > bakery before he got this job.

> > > >

> > > > These managers are new and are trying to make a name for themselves. I

> > > > am far more highly qualified than either of them and yet I felt so

> > > > belittled. This place has become like a concentration camp. I got quite

> > > > scared because I have very little confidence in these situations and I

> > > > began to fear that maybe I was inept and slow, although I know this is

> > > > not true. But when I am treated bad I begin to feel really horrible

> > > > about myself. When my old manager returns from his holidays things will

> > > > improve. He has a very strong personality and really respects me as an

> > > > engineer.

> > > >

> > > > Any thoughts or ideas?

> > > >

> > > > Kaivey

> > > >

> > >

> >

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That is awesome Kaivey, it is good to see that you have become aware of your

inner critic, and have managed to form some distance from it...it doesn't need

to fixed or resisted, just observed, loved, and accepted...after all, it came

from a lack of love and acceptance early on in your life...

Sometimes you react to it, thats fine...when you notice that, just observe

that...just a feeling

A proactive way to bring forth healing is to intentionally bring on those

thoughts, let yourself experience them, and the feelings that go along with it,

and see that while it might be unpleasant, it isn't the boogie man one thinks it

is...

There is nothing one can't handle...only believing you can't

Best,

VC

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > My supervisor is on holiday so the trainee general manager (TGM) has

> > > > > taken his post. Our general manger can be strict and unfriendly and my

> > > > > supervisor doesn't like him. And most of the workforce don't either.

> > > > >

> > > > > So I am working hard all day and I tell the T G M I didn't do a job

> > > > > because it is in warrentyand I get a stern look from him. I was also

too

> > > > > busy to do it. Now my general manger (GM) is always telling me not to

do

> > > > > warrenty work. Later in th day I tell the TGM that I didn't have time

> > > > > to finish a another particular job because I was too busy, but I give

a

> > > > > suggestion that he can use another machine over night instead and I

can

> > > > > finish this job tomorrow, but for some reason this manager say's this

> > > > > can't be done. I then offer to stay on and do overtime which I don't

> > > > > really want to do. But he then asks me if I had done this other job

> > > > > which was low priority, and I said no and I got sour pursed lips look

> > > > > from him again. Now I had asked him earlier in the day what was

> > > > > priority. He then say's there no ovetime and the general manager is

near

> > > > > by listening in tsking note of everything.

> > > > >

> > > > > Later on the TCM calls me over and this field engineer who has arrived

> > > > > and is looking at a warenty job that I had tried to fix the day

before.

> > > > > I didn't do a lot of work on it because it was in warrenty, but over

> > > > > night the fault had cleared. The TGM gave me a look as if I had made a

> > > > > mistake. To try to repair it the day before I had programmed it

> > > > > differently but it made no difference, but now (today) it was working

> > > > > okay under this different program, which is fine. The fault had been

> > > > > brought to my attention by another engineer, so the fault was genuine.

> > > > >

> > > > > Later on the GM say's to my TCM have you told him (me) what happened

and

> > > > > he say's yes. Then the TGM say's how would you like to travel for 4

> > > > > hours and find that there is nothing wrong. I tell him it is the sort

of

> > > > > thing I like to find. He then say's he will be charged for wasting

their

> > > > > time. But I tell them it not my fault it self rectified. (This can be

> > > > > common.)

> > > > >

> > > > > I found this hard to defuse from and to cope with the feelings. I can

> > > > > see that they have got it in for me and seem to think that I am

> > > > > generating overtime, and they might even think I'm slow and

incompetant,

> > > > > which is not true, I'm just very thorough. Now it was very

intimitating

> > > > > to be made to feel bad by a jumped nobnody (TGM) who knows nothing

about

> > > > > high precision electronic engineering and was a manager of a small

> > > > > bakery before he got this job.

> > > > >

> > > > > These managers are new and are trying to make a name for themselves. I

> > > > > am far more highly qualified than either of them and yet I felt so

> > > > > belittled. This place has become like a concentration camp. I got

quite

> > > > > scared because I have very little confidence in these situations and I

> > > > > began to fear that maybe I was inept and slow, although I know this is

> > > > > not true. But when I am treated bad I begin to feel really horrible

> > > > > about myself. When my old manager returns from his holidays things

will

> > > > > improve. He has a very strong personality and really respects me as an

> > > > > engineer.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any thoughts or ideas?

> > > > >

> > > > > Kaivey

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Years ago I tried a self help form of Primal Therapy on myself which was

disasterous. Anyhow, I thought the theory was good and it made a lot of sense.

Arthur Janov say's that when we are very young we build up a defence against

inner pychic pain when we aren't loved properly. A child needs love to feel safe

because it can't fend for itself, but without love it has no idea whether it

will always be fed and looked after. This fear is enough to kill the baby/ child

so it changes its behaivour to suit it parents - e.g, by not crying anymore.

In adult life this changed behaviour becomes a neurosis and the person continues

to use their defence to gain love. Now I'm not making claims that primal therapy

has any truth to it, and it might be and natural and healthy for everyone to

have defences. But this theory struck a cord with my life. A working neurosis is

where a person succeeds in getting his needs met by covering his internal shame,

feelings of inadequacy, and feelings of being unloveable.

Example: a body builder develops an amazing physique and women love him and this

overcomes his feelings of inadequacy. But if he puts on weight, and can't

exercise because of ill health, and his body goes weedy his working neurosis

breaks down and he expreiences his deepest fear and goes into a depression or

anxiety state.

Another example is film and rock stars who lose their fame and then fall into

drug abuse and depression.

Primal therapy was a way to get people to experience their fears in a safe but

dramatic way so as to set them free of neurosis. It is a highly criticised

therapy and might not work at all and could even be very dangerous.

Still, the point for me is facing my worst fears, an ACT with it's acceptance

and defusion has helped me to experience my darkest pain, and feelings of

unatractiveness, in a safe way, although it can still be very difficult.

Another reason I was attracted to Arhur Janov's therapy was because he was one

of the few doctors around at the time who didn't buy into into the genetic view

of mental illness and drug company propanganda.

Kaivey

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My supervisor is on holiday so the trainee general manager (TGM) has

> > > > > > taken his post. Our general manger can be strict and unfriendly and

my

> > > > > > supervisor doesn't like him. And most of the workforce don't either.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So I am working hard all day and I tell the T G M I didn't do a job

> > > > > > because it is in warrentyand I get a stern look from him. I was also

too

> > > > > > busy to do it. Now my general manger (GM) is always telling me not

to do

> > > > > > warrenty work. Later in th day I tell the TGM that I didn't have

time

> > > > > > to finish a another particular job because I was too busy, but I

give a

> > > > > > suggestion that he can use another machine over night instead and I

can

> > > > > > finish this job tomorrow, but for some reason this manager say's

this

> > > > > > can't be done. I then offer to stay on and do overtime which I don't

> > > > > > really want to do. But he then asks me if I had done this other job

> > > > > > which was low priority, and I said no and I got sour pursed lips

look

> > > > > > from him again. Now I had asked him earlier in the day what was

> > > > > > priority. He then say's there no ovetime and the general manager is

near

> > > > > > by listening in tsking note of everything.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Later on the TCM calls me over and this field engineer who has

arrived

> > > > > > and is looking at a warenty job that I had tried to fix the day

before.

> > > > > > I didn't do a lot of work on it because it was in warrenty, but over

> > > > > > night the fault had cleared. The TGM gave me a look as if I had made

a

> > > > > > mistake. To try to repair it the day before I had programmed it

> > > > > > differently but it made no difference, but now (today) it was

working

> > > > > > okay under this different program, which is fine. The fault had been

> > > > > > brought to my attention by another engineer, so the fault was

genuine.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Later on the GM say's to my TCM have you told him (me) what happened

and

> > > > > > he say's yes. Then the TGM say's how would you like to travel for 4

> > > > > > hours and find that there is nothing wrong. I tell him it is the

sort of

> > > > > > thing I like to find. He then say's he will be charged for wasting

their

> > > > > > time. But I tell them it not my fault it self rectified. (This can

be

> > > > > > common.)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I found this hard to defuse from and to cope with the feelings. I

can

> > > > > > see that they have got it in for me and seem to think that I am

> > > > > > generating overtime, and they might even think I'm slow and

incompetant,

> > > > > > which is not true, I'm just very thorough. Now it was very

intimitating

> > > > > > to be made to feel bad by a jumped nobnody (TGM) who knows nothing

about

> > > > > > high precision electronic engineering and was a manager of a small

> > > > > > bakery before he got this job.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > These managers are new and are trying to make a name for themselves.

I

> > > > > > am far more highly qualified than either of them and yet I felt so

> > > > > > belittled. This place has become like a concentration camp. I got

quite

> > > > > > scared because I have very little confidence in these situations and

I

> > > > > > began to fear that maybe I was inept and slow, although I know this

is

> > > > > > not true. But when I am treated bad I begin to feel really horrible

> > > > > > about myself. When my old manager returns from his holidays things

will

> > > > > > improve. He has a very strong personality and really respects me as

an

> > > > > > engineer.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any thoughts or ideas?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kaivey

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My supervisor is on holiday so the trainee general manager (TGM)

has

> > > > > > > taken his post. Our general manger can be strict and unfriendly

and my

> > > > > > > supervisor doesn't like him. And most of the workforce don't

either.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So I am working hard all day and I tell the T G M I didn't do a

job

> > > > > > > because it is in warrentyand I get a stern look from him. I was

also too

> > > > > > > busy to do it. Now my general manger (GM) is always telling me not

to do

> > > > > > > warrenty work. Later in th day I tell the TGM that I didn't have

time

> > > > > > > to finish a another particular job because I was too busy, but I

give a

> > > > > > > suggestion that he can use another machine over night instead and

I can

> > > > > > > finish this job tomorrow, but for some reason this manager say's

this

> > > > > > > can't be done. I then offer to stay on and do overtime which I

don't

> > > > > > > really want to do. But he then asks me if I had done this other

job

> > > > > > > which was low priority, and I said no and I got sour pursed lips

look

> > > > > > > from him again. Now I had asked him earlier in the day what was

> > > > > > > priority. He then say's there no ovetime and the general manager

is near

> > > > > > > by listening in tsking note of everything.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Later on the TCM calls me over and this field engineer who has

arrived

> > > > > > > and is looking at a warenty job that I had tried to fix the day

before.

> > > > > > > I didn't do a lot of work on it because it was in warrenty, but

over

> > > > > > > night the fault had cleared. The TGM gave me a look as if I had

made a

> > > > > > > mistake. To try to repair it the day before I had programmed it

> > > > > > > differently but it made no difference, but now (today) it was

working

> > > > > > > okay under this different program, which is fine. The fault had

been

> > > > > > > brought to my attention by another engineer, so the fault was

genuine.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Later on the GM say's to my TCM have you told him (me) what

happened and

> > > > > > > he say's yes. Then the TGM say's how would you like to travel for

4

> > > > > > > hours and find that there is nothing wrong. I tell him it is the

sort of

> > > > > > > thing I like to find. He then say's he will be charged for wasting

their

> > > > > > > time. But I tell them it not my fault it self rectified. (This can

be

> > > > > > > common.)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I found this hard to defuse from and to cope with the feelings. I

can

> > > > > > > see that they have got it in for me and seem to think that I am

> > > > > > > generating overtime, and they might even think I'm slow and

incompetant,

> > > > > > > which is not true, I'm just very thorough. Now it was very

intimitating

> > > > > > > to be made to feel bad by a jumped nobnody (TGM) who knows nothing

about

> > > > > > > high precision electronic engineering and was a manager of a small

> > > > > > > bakery before he got this job.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > These managers are new and are trying to make a name for

themselves. I

> > > > > > > am far more highly qualified than either of them and yet I felt so

> > > > > > > belittled. This place has become like a concentration camp. I got

quite

> > > > > > > scared because I have very little confidence in these situations

and I

> > > > > > > began to fear that maybe I was inept and slow, although I know

this is

> > > > > > > not true. But when I am treated bad I begin to feel really

horrible

> > > > > > > about myself. When my old manager returns from his holidays things

will

> > > > > > > improve. He has a very strong personality and really respects me

as an

> > > > > > > engineer.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Any thoughts or ideas?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Kaivey

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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