Re: Milk Thistle and Grape Seed Extract

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I don't know enough about that stuff, did you look it up on the net? How are you now?

"Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole." - Caras 

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I would immediately cease taking any supplement that had this

reaction. Milk thistle can be toxic to some. Absolutely do not continue

taking something that causes this reaction. You could end up much worse

than you now are.

Lynda

At 07:54 PM 6/19/2005, you wrote:

>Hi Everyone,

>

>I started taking milk thistle and grape seed extract yesterday. Everytime

>I take it, I get a splitting headache. I was also having strange pains in

>my liver, spleen and gallbladder area. Is this normal?

>

>I was in bed most of the day today sick as a dog. Sick meaning extremely

>tired and weak in my legs. Before dinner I drank some Flor Essence. For

>some reason that made me feel better.

>

>Does this make any sense to anyone????

>

>

>Beth S.

> " Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole. " -

> Caras

>

>

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Dearest Beth:

When things go wrong in the support group, it causes stress for the "Sick Women". I too have had nausea all day today. This is what they want. Please do not let them destroy what our Patty has put in place for us....A Safe Place.

I was planning to leave this site, but told me that is what they want. What do you think?

I have my own group of sick women and I would never want anyone to hurt them.

Just stay close with the women you trust...love you....Lea

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Milk Thistle and Grape Seed Extract

Hi Everyone,

I started taking milk thistle and grape seed extract yesterday. Everytime I take it, I get a splitting headache. I was also having strange pains in my liver, spleen and gallbladder area. Is this normal?

I was in bed most of the day today sick as a dog. Sick meaning extremely tired and weak in my legs. Before dinner I drank some Flor Essence. For some reason that made me feel better.

Does this make any sense to anyone????

Beth S.

"Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole." - Caras

SportsRekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

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sorry - I have not tried either but maybe it was a herx effect which would be good meaning it was helping - bad 'cause you were sick..... let me know how it goes

love

shari

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Dearest Beth:

I'm sorry, but I thought that I had sent the message to you, but it was in a draft. This is the right one and I'm so sorry that you had a bad day yesterday. Our friends did not come because of a severe storm in their area, they will be coming next weekend. It is so hard on me to have family or friends over because I wear down so quickly. Friends are so important, they can help to cheer us up.

Honey, please be happy because everything will go back to normal.This has happened many times before and it will probably happen again. I have women here who call and leave nasty messages on our phone. Most of these women are not even in my group! There is a group called ASBI and you should see the insults there, they have been beating on our Ilena for years. I do not know how she can take it, she is a very strong lady....bless her heart.

Take care Beth...love you....Lea

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Re: Milk Thistle and Grape Seed Extract

Which one? This one? Don't mind me. I'm having a blonde day. Thank God my id problems are cleared up. I really think that it was caused by that 'Carolyn' person last night. She sent me a message to my personal e-mail account that contained a link with pictures of Linsey Lohan. Why I clicked on it is beyond me. I'm usually much more cautious than that. Once I clicked on it, that is when the id problems began.

Crazy people out there!

I'm going to bed, I'm soooo tired!

Beth

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beth

Those sound like herx symptoms. that is why I said it is best to

start one supplement at a time and go slowly. Herxes can be quite

strong. I herx by getting a severe headache, vomiting, hurting all

over my body and feeling overwhelmingly fatigued and brainfogged. I

think you should try one thing first. Drink lots of water and wait

until symptoms subside before taking something again.

Hugs, kathy

--- In , " Beth S. " <schaffe88@y...>

wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I started taking milk thistle and grape seed extract yesterday.

Everytime I take it, I get a splitting headache. I was also having

strange pains in my liver, spleen and gallbladder area. Is this

normal?

>

> I was in bed most of the day today sick as a dog. Sick meaning

extremely tired and weak in my legs. Before dinner I drank some

Flor Essence. For some reason that made me feel better.

>

> Does this make any sense to anyone????

>

>

> Beth S.

> " Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole. " -

Caras

>

>

>

>

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Hi Kathy,

The lady in the health food store told me to take 2 of the milk thistle. After I got so sick, I cut back on just one. Headache wasn't so severe and went away pretty fast. The fatigue is pretty bad but well worth it if it is working!mikat828 <mikat828@...> wrote:

bethThose sound like herx symptoms. that is why I said it is best to start one supplement at a time and go slowly. Herxes can be quite strong. I herx by getting a severe headache, vomiting, hurting all over my body and feeling overwhelmingly fatigued and brainfogged. I think you should try one thing first. Drink lots of water and wait until symptoms subside before taking something again.Hugs, kathy> Hi Everyone,> > I started taking milk thistle and grape seed extract yesterday. Everytime I take it, I get a splitting headache. I was also having strange pains in my liver, spleen and gallbladder area. Is this normal?> > I was in bed most of

the day today sick as a dog. Sick meaning extremely tired and weak in my legs. Before dinner I drank some Flor Essence. For some reason that made me feel better.> > Does this make any sense to anyone????> > > Beth S.> "Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole." - Caras > > > > > ---------------------------------> Sports> Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy FootballOpinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

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Do you think the nausea is a computer virus? Because I have had it all day too

Toni__________________________________________________

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Beth

that is good to hear. I have a hard time tolerating milk thistle

among many other things! It is however, an excellent supplement and

I highly recommend it. It is very protective to the liver and

detoxifying also. Good luck

Hugs, kathy

-- In , " Beth S. " <schaffe88@y...>

wrote:

> Hi Kathy,

>

> The lady in the health food store told me to take 2 of the milk

thistle. After I got so sick, I cut back on just one. Headache

wasn't so severe and went away pretty fast. The fatigue is pretty

bad but well worth it if it is working!

>

> mikat828 <mikat828@y...> wrote:

>

>

> beth

> Those sound like herx symptoms. that is why I said it is best to

> start one supplement at a time and go slowly. Herxes can be quite

> strong. I herx by getting a severe headache, vomiting, hurting

all

> over my body and feeling overwhelmingly fatigued and brainfogged.

I

> think you should try one thing first. Drink lots of water and

wait

> until symptoms subside before taking something again.

> Hugs, kathy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > I started taking milk thistle and grape seed extract yesterday.

> Everytime I take it, I get a splitting headache. I was also

having

> strange pains in my liver, spleen and gallbladder area. Is this

> normal?

> >

> > I was in bed most of the day today sick as a dog. Sick meaning

> extremely tired and weak in my legs. Before dinner I drank some

> Flor Essence. For some reason that made me feel better.

> >

> > Does this make any sense to anyone????

> >

> >

> > Beth S.

> > " Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives

whole. " -

> Caras

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Sports

> > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm hoping it works for me. I waited a bit too long to start the detoxing process but I guess it is better late than never. Too damn much going on lately.mikat828 <mikat828@...> wrote:

-Beththat is good to hear. I have a hard time tolerating milk thistle among many other things! It is however, an excellent supplement and I highly recommend it. It is very protective to the liver and detoxifying also. Good luckHugs, kathy-- In , "Beth S." <schaffe88@y...> wrote:> Hi Kathy,> > The lady in the health food store told me to take 2 of the milk thistle. After I got so sick, I cut back on just one. Headache wasn't so severe and went away pretty fast. The fatigue is pretty bad but well worth it if it is working!> > mikat828 <mikat828@y...> wrote:> > > beth> Those sound like herx symptoms. that is why I said it is best to > start one supplement

at a time and go slowly. Herxes can be quite > strong. I herx by getting a severe headache, vomiting, hurting all > over my body and feeling overwhelmingly fatigued and brainfogged. I > think you should try one thing first. Drink lots of water and wait > until symptoms subside before taking something again.> Hugs, kathy> > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone,> > > > I started taking milk thistle and grape seed extract yesterday. > Everytime I take it, I get a splitting headache. I was also having > strange pains in my liver, spleen and gallbladder area. Is this > normal?> > > > I was in bed most of the day today sick as a dog. Sick meaning > extremely tired and weak in my

legs. Before dinner I drank some > Flor Essence. For some reason that made me feel better.> > > > Does this make any sense to anyone????> > > > > > Beth S.> > "Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole." - > Caras > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Sports> > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football> > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find

out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> >

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Maybe you are pregnant.Toni Frampton <toni_frampton@...> wrote:

Do you think the nausea is a computer virus? Because I have had it all day too

Toni

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Beth

I know the feelings. Sometimes I wish that I could just go away for

a month to some detox place where all I had to do was concentrate on

detoxing. As you said, there is always too much going on and there

is never time to feel like crap which I do when I detox. So I never

really push as hard as I could because I can't just suffer from

terrible symptoms for days or weeks at a time. And yet, I know that

I need to keep pushing the detox. It is a delicate balance!

Hugs, kathy

> > > Hi Everyone,

> > >

> > > I started taking milk thistle and grape seed extract

yesterday.

> > Everytime I take it, I get a splitting headache. I was also

> having

> > strange pains in my liver, spleen and gallbladder area. Is this

> > normal?

> > >

> > > I was in bed most of the day today sick as a dog. Sick

meaning

> > extremely tired and weak in my legs. Before dinner I drank some

> > Flor Essence. For some reason that made me feel better.

> > >

> > > Does this make any sense to anyone????

> > >

> > >

> > > Beth S.

> > > " Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives

> whole. " -

> > Caras

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Sports

> > > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given

> by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

> treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

> better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth,

Yes, this makes a lot of sense. It sounds like you are very toxic and really NEED to detox. Take it very slowly, taking very small doses to start until you tolerate them well and gradually increase up to a full dose. Also, drink lots of water.

Kenda

Hi Everyone,

I started taking milk thistle and grape seed extract yesterday. Everytime I take it, I get a splitting headache. I was also having strange pains in my liver, spleen and gallbladder area. Is this normal?

I was in bed most of the day today sick as a dog. Sick meaning extremely tired and weak in my legs. Before dinner I drank some Flor Essence. For some reason that made me feel better.

Does this make any sense to anyone????

Beth S.

" Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole. " - Caras

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" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)