For Everyone Vanpen base cream for transdermal BHRT

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Hi All,

Have not posted in some time but have an experience that I hope will

be of some value. I have been using transdermal BHRT for several

years now and have always had a problem trying to find a balance.

There are times when it seemed as if the hormone where actually

stuck in my system. Well low and behold I have just discovered that

there are 2 standard bases for HRT cream. One is a very thick white

creamy emollient base and the other is what is known as a Vanpen

base. Keep in mind that both are standard fillers for compounders

the Vanpen being the more popular. After all of this time we have

discovered that the oil in the Vanpen base is not allowing my body

to properly metabolize the hormones. My compounder 90% of the time

would use the emollient base for me on the estrogen. During

December he used the Vanpen base (without me knowing) and within a

few days I was having hives, scratching, upper respitory problems

and major low E symptoms such as night sweats and waking up every 2

hours and complete brain fog. Once the syringes were switched to the

emollient base the symptoms stopped. From what I understand the

Vanpen has a type of oil in it that may prevent the hormone from

being used systemically therefore creating the symtoms of low E

while at the same time overloading the area of application. I hope

that this is of some value amd please if you are having difficulty

check your base. G

[Guest guest]

, is there a reason you didn't use just pure olive oil as a base?

Lynne

From what I understand the Vanpen has a type of oil in it that may prevent the hormone from being used systemically therefore creating the symtoms of low E while at the same time overloading the area of application. I hope that this is of some value amd please if you are having difficulty check your base. G

[Guest guest]

I had always used the transdermal creams even before WP. Never new about Olive Oil as a base until recently. I am assuming most of the time my pharmacist was using the emoillient base for the E so I never really had a problem until this mix up. How are you doing on the OO E ????? G lynnelalala@... wrote: , is there a reason you didn't use just pure olive oil as a base? Lynne From what I understand the Vanpen has a type of oil in it that may prevent the hormone from being used systemically therefore creating the symtoms of low E while at the same time overloading the area of application. I hope that this is of some value amd please if you are having difficulty check your base. G

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Hi - was wondering how you were doing. It seems that the BASE

we use is VERY important, doesn't it? But what is the name of the

very emollient base so I can always ask for it. I switched

pharmacies and lo and behold, my dermatitis came back. I don't know

what's up anyway. Creams don't seem to do the job for me. I can't

get my E levels up for anything. My thyroid seems okay. I'm still

dying from hot flashes! Now I'm using Estrogel but still getting

flashes. If I use too much E, I start bleeding and get cramps. I'm

ready to give up.

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> Hi All,

> Have not posted in some time but have an experience that I hope

will

> be of some value. I have been using transdermal BHRT for several

> years now and have always had a problem trying to find a balance.

> There are times when it seemed as if the hormone where actually

> stuck in my system. Well low and behold I have just discovered

that

> there are 2 standard bases for HRT cream. One is a very thick

white

> creamy emollient base and the other is what is known as a Vanpen

> base. Keep in mind that both are standard fillers for compounders

> the Vanpen being the more popular. After all of this time we have

> discovered that the oil in the Vanpen base is not allowing my body

> to properly metabolize the hormones. My compounder 90% of the

time

> would use the emollient base for me on the estrogen. During

> December he used the Vanpen base (without me knowing) and within a

> few days I was having hives, scratching, upper respitory problems

> and major low E symptoms such as night sweats and waking up every

2

> hours and complete brain fog. Once the syringes were switched to

the

> emollient base the symptoms stopped. From what I understand the

> Vanpen has a type of oil in it that may prevent the hormone from

> being used systemically therefore creating the symtoms of low E

> while at the same time overloading the area of application. I

hope

> that this is of some value amd please if you are having difficulty

> check your base. G

>