Re: These are TK's wifes symptoms, what does eveyone think??

[Guest guest]

That all sounds very much like my symptomology. Except for the

hairloss, I suffer from the same things. Although ever since my

pregnancies my hair has shed more than normal, just not enough to

have any balding. I have also had 2 miscarriages since implantation.

> everyone,

>

> Please give your opinions to the following symptoms and tell me if

> this sounds like they might be caused by her Saline implants:

>

> * Painful and swollen joints (mainly in hands and knees),

tender

> to the touch in my hands-pain in all fingers and joints in hands.

> * Muscle aches

> * Nerve pain (mainly in arms/hands and sometimes feet),

feels

> like overactive nerves

> Raynaud's syndrome?

> * Hair loss

> * Headaches

> * Fatigue

> * Possible miscarriage connection

> * ANA consistently 1:640 (very high-normal is 1:40-1:80)

> * Rheumatoid Arthritis & Specific Lupus tests came back

negative

> * Diagnosed with Lupus (4 different Rheumatologists lean

towards

> that)

> and possible Fibromyalgia

> * General Auto-immune or Mixed Connective Tissue Disease

> Diagnosis'

[Guest guest]

Yes, Yes, Yes, these are some of the symptoms that most women have.

Wishing you love and luck.....Lea

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These are TK's wifes symptoms, what does eveyone

think??

> everyone,

>

> Please give your opinions to the following symptoms and tell me if

> this sounds like they might be caused by her Saline implants:

>

> * Painful and swollen joints (mainly in hands and knees), tender

> to the touch in my hands-pain in all fingers and joints in hands.

> * Muscle aches

> * Nerve pain (mainly in arms/hands and sometimes feet), feels

> like overactive nerves

> Raynaud's syndrome?

> * Hair loss

> * Headaches

> * Fatigue

> * Possible miscarriage connection

> * ANA consistently 1:640 (very high-normal is 1:40-1:80)

> * Rheumatoid Arthritis & Specific Lupus tests came back negative

> * Diagnosed with Lupus (4 different Rheumatologists lean towards

> that)

> and possible Fibromyalgia

> * General Auto-immune or Mixed Connective Tissue Disease

> Diagnosis'

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

TK, These are all symptoms that we are very familiar with. Also, the fact that your wife has Lupus and Fibro symtoms while her tests come back negative is also very common in implanted women. The bad news is that she is likely to only get worse is she doesn't get them out. But the good news is that she can get well with explant and nutrition and detoxing. Good Luck, Anita These are TK's wifes symptoms, what does eveyone think??> everyone,>> Please give your opinions to the following symptoms and tell me if> this sounds like they might be caused by her Saline implants:>> * Painful and swollen joints (mainly in hands and knees), tender> to the touch in my hands-pain in all fingers and joints in hands.> * Muscle aches> * Nerve pain (mainly in arms/hands and sometimes feet), feels> like overactive nerves> Raynaud's syndrome?> * Hair loss> * Headaches> * Fatigue> * Possible miscarriage connection> * ANA consistently 1:640 (very high-normal is 1:40-1:80)> * Rheumatoid Arthritis & Specific Lupus tests came back negative> * Diagnosed with Lupus (4 different Rheumatologists lean towards> that)> and possible Fibromyalgia> * General Auto-immune or Mixed Connective Tissue Disease> Diagnosis'>>>>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed > health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.>> "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live > a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)>>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for those that have responded so far (Anita, Lea, and

). Is there a any test that they can run to know if it is

the implants causing the proplems? What type of Doctor should we

look to go see in the OKC area?

TK

> TK,

> These are all symptoms that we are very familiar with. Also, the

fact that your wife has Lupus and Fibro symtoms while her tests come

back negative is also very common in implanted women. The bad news

is that she is likely to only get worse is she doesn't get them out.

But the good news is that she can get well with explant and

nutrition and detoxing. Good Luck, Anita

>

> These are TK's wifes symptoms, what does

eveyone

> think??

>

>

> > everyone,

> >

> > Please give your opinions to the following symptoms and tell me

if

> > this sounds like they might be caused by her Saline implants:

> >

> > * Painful and swollen joints (mainly in hands and knees),

tender

> > to the touch in my hands-pain in all fingers and joints in hands.

> > * Muscle aches

> > * Nerve pain (mainly in arms/hands and sometimes feet),

feels

> > like overactive nerves

> > Raynaud's syndrome?

> > * Hair loss

> > * Headaches

> > * Fatigue

> > * Possible miscarriage connection

> > * ANA consistently 1:640 (very high-normal is 1:40-1:80)

> > * Rheumatoid Arthritis & Specific Lupus tests came back

negative

> > * Diagnosed with Lupus (4 different Rheumatologists lean

towards

> > that)

> > and possible Fibromyalgia

> > * General Auto-immune or Mixed Connective Tissue Disease

> > Diagnosis'

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by

> > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> > health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live

> > a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hello,

its great you are so supportive.

My guess is its the implants as your wife sounds so similar to the rest of us who have had either saline or silicone implants.Will your wife read the information on this group as I am sure it will help her to see that she is not alone.

Sue

[Guest guest]

Not to be redundant...but those symptoms are listed on our home page

as ones we have suffered from after getting implants. My strong

belief is that your implants are making your wife sick and need to

come out.

As for a test that can be run to show it is the implants...there is

no such animal. Think about it....if there were, would there be any

controversy about implants causing disease? Would there be FDA

hearings about implants safety? Nope, but oh, how we wish there

were such a test! Then we wouldn't go through any of this crap we

go through with doctors not believing us, and giving us the eye

rolls and suggestions to see a psychiatrist because they think all

of this is in our heads!

Nope...that is why we are here. We have a support group so women

can get the truth from other women who have experienced illness and

can't get answers anywhere else. Our focus is on the pursuit of

health that comes from going through explant and then

detoxification. We provide the hope to women that they can get

their health back and have a life again when they have been left

hopeless everywhere else.

We know it is the implants because we have case after case of women

getting better after explant. We know that implants can cause

disease because there are too many of us going through the same

experience after implant for it to be a coincidence. There are only

a few doctors open to the idea that implants cause disease. They are

the rare jewels that are true truth seekers. The rest are all just

puppets of a corrupted and political medical industry that is

blinded by its own ignorance and doesn't know it.

My suggestion is to go to a doctor who understands concepts of

toxicity. Many times this means looking " outside the box " of

traditional medicine and seeking the help of naturopathic and

alternative minded physicians.

Best wishes,

Patty

> > TK,

> > These are all symptoms that we are very familiar with. Also,

the

> fact that your wife has Lupus and Fibro symtoms while her tests

come

> back negative is also very common in implanted women. The bad

news

> is that she is likely to only get worse is she doesn't get them

out.

> But the good news is that she can get well with explant and

> nutrition and detoxing. Good Luck, Anita

> >

> > These are TK's wifes symptoms, what

does

> eveyone

> > think??

> >

> >

> > > everyone,

> > >

> > > Please give your opinions to the following symptoms and tell

me

> if

> > > this sounds like they might be caused by her Saline implants:

> > >

> > > * Painful and swollen joints (mainly in hands and

knees),

> tender

> > > to the touch in my hands-pain in all fingers and joints in

hands.

> > > * Muscle aches

> > > * Nerve pain (mainly in arms/hands and sometimes feet),

> feels

> > > like overactive nerves

> > > Raynaud's syndrome?

> > > * Hair loss

> > > * Headaches

> > > * Fatigue

> > > * Possible miscarriage connection

> > > * ANA consistently 1:640 (very high-normal is 1:40-1:80)

> > > * Rheumatoid Arthritis & Specific Lupus tests came back

> negative

> > > * Diagnosed with Lupus (4 different Rheumatologists lean

> towards

> > > that)

> > > and possible Fibromyalgia

> > > * General Auto-immune or Mixed Connective Tissue Disease

> > > Diagnosis'

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> given by

> > > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> licensed

> > > health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you.

> > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> how to live

> > > a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> ing,

> > > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi

Those definitely sound like symptoms capable of being caused by

implants. All of those have been reported in women sick from

implants. I have had several myself. I think your wife definitely

should seek an explant by a qualified plastic surgeon.

Hugs

kathy

> everyone,

>

> Please give your opinions to the following symptoms and tell me if

> this sounds like they might be caused by her Saline implants:

>

> * Painful and swollen joints (mainly in hands and knees),

tender

> to the touch in my hands-pain in all fingers and joints in hands.

> * Muscle aches

> * Nerve pain (mainly in arms/hands and sometimes feet),

feels

> like overactive nerves

> Raynaud's syndrome?

> * Hair loss

> * Headaches

> * Fatigue

> * Possible miscarriage connection

> * ANA consistently 1:640 (very high-normal is 1:40-1:80)

> * Rheumatoid Arthritis & Specific Lupus tests came back

negative

> * Diagnosed with Lupus (4 different Rheumatologists lean

towards

> that)

> and possible Fibromyalgia

> * General Auto-immune or Mixed Connective Tissue Disease

> Diagnosis'

[Guest guest]

Hi

Those definitely sound like symptoms capable of being caused by

implants. All of those have been reported in women sick from

implants. I have had several myself. I think your wife definitely

should seek an explant by a qualified plastic surgeon.

Hugs

kathy

> everyone,

>

> Please give your opinions to the following symptoms and tell me if

> this sounds like they might be caused by her Saline implants:

>

> * Painful and swollen joints (mainly in hands and knees),

tender

> to the touch in my hands-pain in all fingers and joints in hands.

> * Muscle aches

> * Nerve pain (mainly in arms/hands and sometimes feet),

feels

> like overactive nerves

> Raynaud's syndrome?

> * Hair loss

> * Headaches

> * Fatigue

> * Possible miscarriage connection

> * ANA consistently 1:640 (very high-normal is 1:40-1:80)

> * Rheumatoid Arthritis & Specific Lupus tests came back

negative

> * Diagnosed with Lupus (4 different Rheumatologists lean

towards

> that)

> and possible Fibromyalgia

> * General Auto-immune or Mixed Connective Tissue Disease

> Diagnosis'

[Guest guest]

Uh, not your implants, your wife's implants. Duh! I think you all

know what I meant!

> > > TK,

> > > These are all symptoms that we are very familiar with. Also,

> the

> > fact that your wife has Lupus and Fibro symtoms while her tests

> come

> > back negative is also very common in implanted women. The bad

> news

> > is that she is likely to only get worse is she doesn't get them

> out.

> > But the good news is that she can get well with explant and

> > nutrition and detoxing. Good Luck, Anita

> > >

> > > These are TK's wifes symptoms, what

> does

> > eveyone

> > > think??

> > >

> > >

> > > > everyone,

> > > >

> > > > Please give your opinions to the following symptoms and tell

> me

> > if

> > > > this sounds like they might be caused by her Saline implants:

> > > >

> > > > * Painful and swollen joints (mainly in hands and

> knees),

> > tender

> > > > to the touch in my hands-pain in all fingers and joints in

> hands.

> > > > * Muscle aches

> > > > * Nerve pain (mainly in arms/hands and sometimes

feet),

> > feels

> > > > like overactive nerves

> > > > Raynaud's syndrome?

> > > > * Hair loss

> > > > * Headaches

> > > > * Fatigue

> > > > * Possible miscarriage connection

> > > > * ANA consistently 1:640 (very high-normal is 1:40-

1:80)

> > > > * Rheumatoid Arthritis & Specific Lupus tests came

back

> > negative

> > > > * Diagnosed with Lupus (4 different Rheumatologists

lean

> > towards

> > > > that)

> > > > and possible Fibromyalgia

> > > > * General Auto-immune or Mixed Connective Tissue

Disease

> > > > Diagnosis'

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> > given by

> > > > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician

or

> > licensed

> > > > health care professional before commencing any medical

> treatment.

> > > >

> > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

politicians

> > mislead you.

> > > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

about

> > how to live

> > > > a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> > ing,

> > > > two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

ABSOLUTELY! GETS THOSE THINGS OUT IMMEDIATELY!

tkhendrickson74 <tkhendrickson74@...> wrote:

everyone,Please give your opinions to the following symptoms and tell me if this sounds like they might be caused by her Saline implants:* Painful and swollen joints (mainly in hands and knees), tender to the touch in my hands-pain in all fingers and joints in hands. * Muscle aches * Nerve pain (mainly in arms/hands and sometimes feet), feels like overactive nerves Raynaud's syndrome? * Hair loss * Headaches * Fatigue * Possible miscarriage connection * ANA consistently 1:640 (very high-normal is 1:40-1:80)

* Rheumatoid Arthritis & Specific Lupus tests came back negative * Diagnosed with Lupus (4 different Rheumatologists lean towards that) and possible Fibromyalgia * General Auto-immune or Mixed Connective Tissue Disease Diagnosis' Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)