Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 GT, Yes, I think detoxing does help. . . The particles are so tiny they travel through the blood stream and are found in urine. . . Probably everywhere else too! . . .. They've found silicone concentration in urine to be the highest right after explant. Some women have seen white flakes in their urine while detoxing. One of the ladies found a white powdery debris after doing the clay baths. Some women have had skin eruptions that silicone came out of . . . some actually have glass-like pieces come out. IMHO, anything one can do to get the body to release the gunk (including other environmental toxins) to ease the toxin load on ones body is going to help. It takes time and discipline, but the results are well worth the effort! Hugs, Rogene --- la Todarello <tasslekitty@...> wrote: > Hi Rogene, > > Do you think the body can eliminate any of these > particles through detox? I had textured. > > GT > --- Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: > > > GT, > > > > This is the first time I've heard it given a name. > . > > . > > > > With textured implants especially, microscopic > bits > > of > > the implant are eaten away by the body's > macrophages > > as the body attempts to get rid of non-self. The > > particles end up getting distributed throughout > the > > body where they do their dirty deeds. . . > > > > Detox, detox, detox! > > > > Hugs, > > > > Rogene > > > > > > --- la Todarello <tasslekitty@...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Oh no, > > > > > > What is particle disease??? I would like to > hear > > > about this. > > > > > > GT > > > --- Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: > > > > suggested to me, in a subsequent > message > > > > that > > > > saline implanted women need to start a > research > > > > group > > > > to determine why they are getting ill . . . > > > > > > > > The questions to be asked are: " Is it > something > > in > > > > the > > > > texture of the implant? Is it the tin? Is it > > the > > > > bacteria and fungus? Is it something now > being > > > > referred to as " particle disease " when the > shell > > > > starts to disintegrate? " > > > > > > > > Good suggestion! . . . Any takers? - Rogene - > > See > > > > message below! > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > --- m keeling <keeling.m@...> > > wrote: > > > > > From: " m keeling " > <keeling.m@...> > > > > > " Rogene " <saxony01@...> > > > > > CC: <MBGStout@...> > > > > > Subject: Re: twin sisters > > > > > Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 12:24:57 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > Rogene, > > > > > I am unable to include women with saline > > > implants > > > > > only in the free platinum > > > > > testing program because our research > indicates > > > > that > > > > > the two saline implants > > > > > tested did not release platinum and the FDA > > > makes > > > > > the statement that saline > > > > > implants use tin as a catalyst to make the > > > shell. > > > > > Something else has to be > > > > > at work here to explain the symptoms and > > > diagnoses > > > > > found in saline implanted > > > > > women. Is it something in the texture of > the > > > > > implant? Is it the tin? Is > > > > > it the bacteria and fungus? Is it something > > now > > > > > being referred to as > > > > > " particle disease " when the shell starts to > > > > > disintegrate? We just don't > > > > > know at this time. The CANDO research is > > simply > > > > > focusing on the platinum > > > > > issue at the moment until we get the FDA to > > > > > recognize the danger of ionized > > > > > platinum released from gel-filled implants. > I > > > > hope > > > > > this helps you > > > > > understand my reasons for not including > > > > > saline-implanted women at the > > > > > moment. I have been severely criticized by > > > > > " saline-implanted " women in the > > > > > past for not including them in my petitions, > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > twin sisters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " kingmashana " <shanakingma@... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I have been diagnosed with severe > > > > rheumatoid > > > > > arthritis (at 29) > > > > > > and also have some symptoms of Sjogrens > (dry > > > > > mouth) syndrome. I think > > > > > > it is more than coincidence that my > symptoms > > > > began > > > > > 8 months to the > > > > > > day of my augmentation. I hope and pray > and > > > > really > > > > > feel my symptoms > > > > > > will regress. Especially since I have an > > > > identical > > > > > twin (same DNA) > > > > > > that does not have any autoimmune > problems. > > > BTW > > > > I > > > > > have smooth, saline > > > > > > under the muscle...but have only had them > in > > > for > > > > > 14 months, so > > > > > > hopefully the explant will go well. I will > > be > > > in > > > > > touch, > > > > > > Shana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Discover > > > Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news > > and > > > more. Check it out! > > > http://discover./mobile.html > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Hi, Thanks for the information and thanks again for the www.curezone.com website again. I lost some of my saved mail one day, it just disappeared. There are so many messages on this site I did not have t0 to go back and try to find the webpage. GT --- Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: > GT, > > Yes, I think detoxing does help. . . The particles > are > so tiny they travel through the blood stream and are > found in urine. . . Probably everywhere else too! . > . > . > > They've found silicone concentration in urine to be > the highest right after explant. Some women have > seen > white flakes in their urine while detoxing. One of > the > ladies found a white powdery debris after doing the > clay baths. > > Some women have had skin eruptions that silicone > came > out of . . . some actually have glass-like pieces > come > out. > > IMHO, anything one can do to get the body to release > the gunk (including other environmental toxins) to > ease the toxin load on ones body is going to help. > > It takes time and discipline, but the results are > well > worth the effort! > > Hugs, > > Rogene > > > > > --- la Todarello <tasslekitty@...> > wrote: > > > Hi Rogene, > > > > Do you think the body can eliminate any of these > > particles through detox? I had textured. > > > > GT > > --- Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: > > > > > GT, > > > > > > This is the first time I've heard it given a > name. > > . > > > . > > > > > > With textured implants especially, microscopic > > bits > > > of > > > the implant are eaten away by the body's > > macrophages > > > as the body attempts to get rid of non-self. The > > > particles end up getting distributed throughout > > the > > > body where they do their dirty deeds. . . > > > > > > Detox, detox, detox! > > > > > > Hugs, > > > > > > Rogene > > > > > > > > > --- la Todarello <tasslekitty@...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Oh no, > > > > > > > > What is particle disease??? I would like to > > hear > > > > about this. > > > > > > > > GT > > > > --- Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: > > > > > suggested to me, in a subsequent > > message > > > > > that > > > > > saline implanted women need to start a > > research > > > > > group > > > > > to determine why they are getting ill . . . > > > > > > > > > > The questions to be asked are: " Is it > > something > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > texture of the implant? Is it the tin? Is > it > > > the > > > > > bacteria and fungus? Is it something now > > being > > > > > referred to as " particle disease " when the > > shell > > > > > starts to disintegrate? " > > > > > > > > > > Good suggestion! . . . Any takers? - Rogene > - > > > See > > > > > message below! > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > --- m keeling <keeling.m@...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > From: " m keeling " > > <keeling.m@...> > > > > > > " Rogene " <saxony01@...> > > > > > > CC: <MBGStout@...> > > > > > > Subject: Re: twin sisters > > > > > > Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 12:24:57 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > > Rogene, > > > > > > I am unable to include women with saline > > > > implants > > > > > > only in the free platinum > > > > > > testing program because our research > > indicates > > > > > that > > > > > > the two saline implants > > > > > > tested did not release platinum and the > FDA > > > > makes > > > > > > the statement that saline > > > > > > implants use tin as a catalyst to make the > > > > shell. > > > > > > Something else has to be > > > > > > at work here to explain the symptoms and > > > > diagnoses > > > > > > found in saline implanted > > > > > > women. Is it something in the texture of > > the > > > > > > implant? Is it the tin? Is > > > > > > it the bacteria and fungus? Is it > something > > > now > > > > > > being referred to as > > > > > > " particle disease " when the shell starts > to > > > > > > disintegrate? We just don't > > > > > > know at this time. The CANDO research is > > > simply > > > > > > focusing on the platinum > > > > > > issue at the moment until we get the FDA > to > > > > > > recognize the danger of ionized > > > > > > platinum released from gel-filled > implants. > > I > > > > > hope > > > > > > this helps you > > > > > > understand my reasons for not including > > > > > > saline-implanted women at the > > > > > > moment. I have been severely criticized > by > > > > > > " saline-implanted " women in the > > > > > > past for not including them in my > petitions, > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > twin sisters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " kingmashana " <shanakingma@... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I have been diagnosed with severe > > > > > rheumatoid > > > > > > arthritis (at 29) > > > > > > > and also have some symptoms of Sjogrens > > (dry > > > > > > mouth) syndrome. I think > > > > > > > it is more than coincidence that my > > symptoms > > > > > began > > > > > > 8 months to the > > > > > > > day of my augmentation. I hope and pray > > and > > > > > really > > > > > > feel my symptoms > > > > > > > will regress. Especially since I have an > > > > > identical > > > > > > twin (same DNA) > === message truncated === __________________________________ Mobile Take with you! 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Guest guest Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 , Did you have radiation after getting your implants? I've wondered if radiation changes the composition of silicone to glass? Rogene --- Cochran <marycochran@...> wrote: > Hi Rogene > > Happy Mother's Day! > > I have 1/8 inch shards that come out of my pores > particularly on my thighs and butt. i use detoxing > nutritients days and have since i had the implant > inserted after mastectomy. It is probably the only > reason, my health is as good as it is - > > Detox and nutritional support cannot be overstated > in today's world! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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