Re: transdermal sodium bicarbonate ?

[Guest guest]

Hello again.

I've looked further for info regarding application of baking soda via DMSO, and

found nothing.

This weekend I'd very much like to make up a batch of this.

Does anyone have any pointers at all about it ???

Thanks !

mark

[Guest guest]

What are you trying to do and why?

Just my opinion but I think baking soda is slightly caustic with a ph

of 8 or 9. I used it on my lip once for a few hrs (not with dmso) and

I sure felt a burning sensation. I think I used it for a cold sore or

something and I would have been better off just letting the cold sore

run it's course probably.

I use baking soda a lot.. brushing teeth, etc. but if it were to feel

like it is burning, using it the way you are talking about... the dmso

would carry the baking soda below the skin and you would be stuck with

the discomfort and pain with no way to relieve it.

I guess, bottom line, I am just cautioning you to be very, very

careful unless you know someone you trust who has used baking soda

this way and you know it is safe to use. Of course, maybe I am just

being an alarmist but .... Lola

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/26/2011 4:31:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

phoenix23002@... writes:

I guess, bottom line, I am just cautioning you to be very, very

careful unless you know someone you trust who has used baking soda

this way and you know it is safe to use. Of course, maybe I am just

being an alarmist but .... Lola

Hi Lola, I have used this for about 5 times in 9 months in my fight

against cancer.. I tried to get this info through to Mark but for some reason it

didn't post... Here goes another try-- :-) Lois

This may be what you are looking for. It is what I use...Make sure your

skin is clean before you apply it..The DMSO will carry whatever is on your

skin in...{ good idea --- can use colloidal silver to clean skin } Lois

Based on the work of Dr Tullio Simoncini of Rome, Italy, maintaining an

alkaline pH of around 8.5 or so in the tumor and vicinity for 3 weeks will

kill many types of cancers. Dr. Simoncini uses the lab procedures and

protocols for using intravenous sodium bicarbonate as approved by the FDA for

cardiac infarctions to treat most cancers.

_http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/_ (http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/)

_http://www.winningcancer.com/txt/the-simoncini-treatment-of-cancer/_

(http://www.winningcancer.com/txt/the-simoncini-treatment-of-cancer/)

To make liquid Sodium Bicarb* you get 250ml of sterile water and add 5mg (

a level tea spoon ) of sodium Bicarb. pH should be between 8.5 and 9. You

can find pH strips at fish supply stores and pharmacies, or order on line.

Make sure it is for the range of pH you are testing, some are very

specific.

Dr Simoncini used this to inject directly into the tumor, often under

radiographic guidance for deeper tumors.

DMSO and Sodium Bicarbonate

To use DMSO to deliver the SB into the tumor by topical application:

Using a 5ml syringe and measure 4 ml of the Sodium Bicarb solution into a

small bottle and add 1ml of DMSO. Always add DMSO to water and never add

water to DMSO due to the release of heat.. For all cancers you can just rub

this on your chest and it will absorb through your skin and head straight to

the tumour.

For Lung Cancer you can also use a nebulizer and put a 20ml mix into the

nebulizer, use this for 6 days and then stop for 6 days. The recommendation

is to do this 4 times and then a scan.

*Sodium Bicarbonate is baking soda, do not confuse it with baking powder.

===Bicarbonate Increases Tumor pH and Inhibits Spontaneous Metastases

_http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/bicarbonate-inhibits-spontaneous-metastas

es.html_

(http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/bicarbonate-inhibits-spontaneous-metastases.h\

tml)

[Guest guest]

I don't know if this would interest you, but i use a mix of 2Tbs DMSO

into which is dissolved on Tagamet. This is supposed to work on many

skin cancers. It's even more alkaline than DMSO and baking soda.

Be well,

Léna

Hello again.

I've looked further for info regarding application of baking soda via

DMSO, and found nothing.

This weekend I'd very much like to make up a batch of this.

Does anyone have any pointers at all about it ???

Thanks !

mark

[Guest guest]

I raised this subject when I first subscribed to this list.

The recommendation was 3 parts DMSO tbls / tsp to 1

part S:B tbls / tsp. S:B is maximum 14 pH, so I don't see

how Tagamet can be higher.

Bruce Chesley

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 21:22:10 -0500 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Guyot_L=E9na?=

writes:

> I don't know if this would interest you, but i use a mix of 2Tbs DMSO

>

> into which is dissolved on Tagamet. This is supposed to work on many

>

> skin cancers. It's even more alkaline than DMSO and baking soda.

> Be well,

> Léna

>

>

> Hello again.

> I've looked further for info regarding application of baking soda

> via

> DMSO, and found nothing.

>

> This weekend I'd very much like to make up a batch of this.

>

> Does anyone have any pointers at all about it ???

>

> Thanks !

>

> mark

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

supposed to be 'one Tagamet'. sorry. L

I don't know if this would interest you, but i use a mix of 2Tbs DMSO

into which is dissolved on Tagamet. This is supposed to work on many

skin cancers. It's even more alkaline than DMSO and baking soda.

Be well,

Léna

Hello again.

I've looked further for info regarding application of baking soda via

DMSO, and found nothing.

This weekend I'd very much like to make up a batch of this.

Does anyone have any pointers at all about it ???

Thanks !

mark

[Guest guest]

Mark, I am confused as to your agenda, I take orally potassium bicarbonate

to sweeten my body, alkaline it, I figure we get enough sodium, so why

compound the problem by taking sodium bicarb.

The sores that open up are most likely a type of fungus, and iodine will

stop those, if taken in larger doses, say a couple hundred mgs daily for

three months, it takes awhile. I am not sure what your sources are, but

there is nothing toxic with iodine, or lugols, I know many who take a

couple hundred daily. Most older medical books recommend up to fifteen

grams daily in some severe cases, even for children. . Big Pharma has spend

fifty years frightening people away from iodine for good reason, it has

virtually no side affects, but they cannot figure how to make money with

it, so they run it down as in many cases it would totally replace a lot of

their medications. ie all their anti fungals, statins and antibiotics, the

lists goes on and on. They have conned and duped us, as we have no

leadership protecting our backside. The old theory, " tell a lie often

enough, and everyone will believe you " , is true in this case. david

lubbock tx. .

..

[Guest guest]

Thanks Léna.

I don't use any sort of pharma-stuff, so Tagamet will defer to nice,

old-fashioned baking soda for me.

It is alkaline enough, and quite safe for me.

(Of course, compared to dying from illness, most things are quite safe, right ?)

Best Wishes !

mark

[Guest guest]

Hi !

My agenda ?

Goodness man - it is to get better & stay alive - that sums it up.

I looked into potassium bicarbonate and found it mostly used by winemakers and

could not see any need to out the baking soda as I get very, very little sodium

otherwise at all.

Ah-hah:

> The sores that open up are most likely a type of fungus, and iodine will stop

those, if taken in larger doses, say a couple hundred mgs daily for three

months, it takes awhile.

Herein shows the bicarb, iodine, silver water and all the connections I've

made...100% agreement !

A lifetime of rotting from the inside-out, and for most it has the uber-special

name of 'cancer' - to which I respond simply:

<PFFFFFLLLLT!!!!> (Or the raspberry spelling of your choice...)

No arguments here, thanks:

> I am not sure what your sources are, but there is nothing toxic with iodine,

or lugols, I know many who take a couple hundred daily. Most older medical books

recommend up to fifteen grams daily in some severe cases, even for children.

I am getting ALL the iodine I can so far and you should have gotten an email

from me off-list about what you offered me ?

Very sad, but true - like silver and on and on and on...:

> Big Pharma has spend fifty years frightening people away from iodine for good

reason, it has virtually no side affects, but they cannot figure how to make

money with it, so they run it down as in many cases it would totally replace a

lot of their medications. ie all their anti fungals, statins and antibiotics,

the lists goes on and on. They have conned and duped us, as we have no

leadership protecting our backside. The old theory, " tell a lie often enough,

and everyone will believe you " , is true in this case.

We, as a country eat krap for food - drink yummy, sweet poisons, breathe

garbage, work & live surrounded by toxicity and surrrrpriiize, surrrpriiizze,

surrrpriiize - it kills folks by way of extreme misery.

Some folks found the door though...sure glad I did !!!

Be Well, and Happy.

mark

[Guest guest]

Hi Mark,

Actually, Tagamet is the first OTC pharma I've bought in years! I read

about it in the context of skin cancers, in one of these alternative

groups, or would never have thought of using it. It dissolved more

completely than my earlier mix of baking soda. My preferred pharmacies

are my local Feed'n'Seed, or my local nat. food store.

Be well,

Léna

Thanks Léna.

I don't use any sort of pharma-stuff, so Tagamet will defer to nice,

old-fashioned baking soda for me.

It is alkaline enough, and quite safe for me.

(Of course, compared to dying from illness, most things are quite

safe, right ?)

Best Wishes !

mark

[Guest guest]

This article by Dr Norm Shealy about potassium bicarbonate may be of interest to

you: http://www.selfhealthsystems.com/archiveletter.php?id=240

>

> Hi !

> My agenda ?

> Goodness man - it is to get better & stay alive - that sums it up.

>

> I looked into potassium bicarbonate and found it mostly used by winemakers and

could not see any need to out the baking soda as I get very, very little sodium

otherwise at all.

>

> Ah-hah:

> > The sores that open up are most likely a type of fungus, and iodine will

stop those, if taken in larger doses, say a couple hundred mgs daily for three

months, it takes awhile.

>

> Herein shows the bicarb, iodine, silver water and all the connections I've

made...100% agreement !

> A lifetime of rotting from the inside-out, and for most it has the

uber-special name of 'cancer' - to which I respond simply:

> <PFFFFFLLLLT!!!!> (Or the raspberry spelling of your choice...)

>

> No arguments here, thanks:

> > I am not sure what your sources are, but there is nothing toxic with iodine,

or lugols, I know many who take a couple hundred daily. Most older medical books

recommend up to fifteen grams daily in some severe cases, even for children.

>

> I am getting ALL the iodine I can so far and you should have gotten an email

from me off-list about what you offered me ?

>

> Very sad, but true - like silver and on and on and on...:

> > Big Pharma has spend fifty years frightening people away from iodine for

good reason, it has virtually no side affects, but they cannot figure how to

make money with it, so they run it down as in many cases it would totally

replace a lot of their medications. ie all their anti fungals, statins and

antibiotics, the lists goes on and on. They have conned and duped us, as we have

no leadership protecting our backside. The old theory, " tell a lie often enough,

and everyone will believe you " , is true in this case.

>

> We, as a country eat krap for food - drink yummy, sweet poisons, breathe

garbage, work & live surrounded by toxicity and surrrrpriiize, surrrpriiizze,

surrrpriiize - it kills folks by way of extreme misery.

>

> Some folks found the door though...sure glad I did !!!

>

> Be Well, and Happy.

>

> mark

>

[Guest guest]

I have heard of a few people on some lists that have said the Tagamet and

DMSO combo worked great for removing spots and skin cancers. My brother was

diagnosed with the slow growing kind of skin cancer and decided to try

natural means before submitting to surgery.

He used the Tagamet/DMSO 3 times daily for almost 3 months but it didn't do

anything. He finally went in and had it removed.

I'd have suggested black salve for it except it was way too close to his eye

for the BS, which is why he tried the Tagamet.

So just remember to keep a very close watch on it while using the Tagamet,

in case it doesn't work for you.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Actually, Tagamet is the first OTC pharma I've bought in years! I read

about it in the context of skin cancers, in one of these alternative

groups, or would never have thought of using it.

[Guest guest]

Regarding " To make liquid Sodium Bicarb* you get 250ml of sterile water and add

5mg (a level tea spoon ) of sodium Bicarb "

I believe a teaspoon of NaHCO3 weighs 5 grams not 5 mg?

>

>

> In a message dated 11/26/2011 4:31:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> phoenix23002@... writes:

>

> I guess, bottom line, I am just cautioning you to be very, very

> careful unless you know someone you trust who has used baking soda

> this way and you know it is safe to use. Of course, maybe I am just

> being an alarmist but .... Lola

>

>

>

> Hi Lola, I have used this for about 5 times in 9 months in my fight

> against cancer.. I tried to get this info through to Mark but for some reason

it

> didn't post... Here goes another try-- :-) Lois

>

> This may be what you are looking for. It is what I use...Make sure your

> skin is clean before you apply it..The DMSO will carry whatever is on your

> skin in...{ good idea --- can use colloidal silver to clean skin } Lois

> Based on the work of Dr Tullio Simoncini of Rome, Italy, maintaining an

> alkaline pH of around 8.5 or so in the tumor and vicinity for 3 weeks will

> kill many types of cancers. Dr. Simoncini uses the lab procedures and

> protocols for using intravenous sodium bicarbonate as approved by the FDA for

> cardiac infarctions to treat most cancers.

> _http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/_ (http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/)

> _http://www.winningcancer.com/txt/the-simoncini-treatment-of-cancer/_

> (http://www.winningcancer.com/txt/the-simoncini-treatment-of-cancer/)

> To make liquid Sodium Bicarb* you get 250ml of sterile water and add 5mg (

> a level tea spoon ) of sodium Bicarb. pH should be between 8.5 and 9. You

> can find pH strips at fish supply stores and pharmacies, or order on line.

> Make sure it is for the range of pH you are testing, some are very

> specific.

> Dr Simoncini used this to inject directly into the tumor, often under

> radiographic guidance for deeper tumors.

> DMSO and Sodium Bicarbonate

> To use DMSO to deliver the SB into the tumor by topical application:

> Using a 5ml syringe and measure 4 ml of the Sodium Bicarb solution into a

> small bottle and add 1ml of DMSO. Always add DMSO to water and never add

> water to DMSO due to the release of heat.. For all cancers you can just rub

> this on your chest and it will absorb through your skin and head straight to

> the tumour.

> For Lung Cancer you can also use a nebulizer and put a 20ml mix into the

> nebulizer, use this for 6 days and then stop for 6 days. The recommendation

> is to do this 4 times and then a scan.

> *Sodium Bicarbonate is baking soda, do not confuse it with baking powder.

> ===Bicarbonate Increases Tumor pH and Inhibits Spontaneous Metastases

> _http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/bicarbonate-inhibits-spontaneous-metastas

> es.html_

>

(http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/bicarbonate-inhibits-spontaneous-metastases.h\

tml)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes. 5g

>

> I believe a teaspoon of NaHCO3 weighs 5 grams not 5 mg?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/28/2011 4:22:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

logicman3@... writes:

Regarding " To make liquid Sodium Bicarb* you get 250ml of sterile water

and add 5mg (a level tea spoon ) of sodium Bicarb "

I believe a teaspoon of NaHCO3 weighs 5 grams not 5 mg?

That thought never crossed my mind,,,I'm one of those " a dash-- a Pinch

or two --or a glug " type cooks. I was leaning towards " Master Chef " when

I used a teaspoon...:-) Lois