Just an observation......................

[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone, I've noticed that alot of women on this group have wonderful husbands that stand behind you. Do you have any idea how rare and wonderful that is to have? I have been single all my life. I've dated many cads and kissed many frogs. After I became ill I couldn't even get a date! As soon as they heard that I was ill, they would run for the hills! Not that I've had much energy to date but there was a time that I lost 30 pounds and was forcing myself to get out even if I had to drink a ton of caffeine. They could see that I was healthy but as soon as you mention fibro or chronic fatigue, that was it. It isn't as though it is something that you can keep to yourself either. Most men want to know where you work so the conversation almost always will lead to that. I told one guy I had peripheral neuropathy. When he asked what it was and I told him it was nerve damage in my legs,

he just about jumped up and ran. He couldn't get to his car fast enough. Although he saw me walking and looking well that was it. Since then I have given up. I figure that someday I'll meet someone that will accept me for who I am and what I'm suffering through. I might be 90 but I'll find him.....hopefully. So I just wanted to let all of the married ladies out there know how lucky you are to have a husband that stands behind you. It is a very rare thing to find! I envy all of you!

Beth S.

"Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole." - Caras

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[Guest guest]

Oh, Dearest Beth:

I know that you will find someone, the right man has not seen who you really are. When you least expect it he will show up and then the sparks will fly. When I became so fat that nothing would fit, always told me that now he had more of me to love. My doctor told that I did not know what fat was, he said that he has so many women who are really overweight. They like being that way and lots of men like their women a bit plump.

Your weight will come off, it just takes time. Many women have gained weight because of these bags of poison. The way that I'm losing is by skipping our late meal. I have a boost and some fruit and this is working for me.

Please just take one day at a time....we all love you....Lea

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Just an observation......................

Hi Everyone,I've noticed that alot of women on this group have wonderful husbands that stand behind you. Do you have any idea how rare and wonderful that is to have?I have been single all my life. I've dated many cads and kissed many frogs. After I became ill I couldn't even get a date! As soon as they heard that I was ill, they would run for the hills! Not that I've had much energy to date but there was a time that I lost 30 pounds and was forcing myself to get out even if I had to drink a ton of caffeine. They could see that I was healthy but as soon as you mention fibro or chronic fatigue, that was it. It isn't as though it is something that you can keep to yourself either. Most men want to know where you work so the conversation almost always will lead to that. I told one guy I had peripheral neuropathy. When he asked what it was and I told him it was nerve damage in my legs, he just about jumped up and ran. He couldn't get to his car fast enough. Although he saw me walking and looking well that was it. Since then I have given up. I figure that someday I'll meet someone that will accept me for who I am and what I'm suffering through. I might be 90 but I'll find him.....hopefully.So I just wanted to let all of the married ladies out there know how lucky you are to have a husband that stands behind you. It is a very rare thing to find! I envy all of you!

Beth S.

"Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole." - Caras

Discover Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth,

Thanks for sharing about your personal situation with men ...

Working with women in this cause for 10 years now ... I've seen the

whole gambit of men ...

Some fabulously fantastic like Lea & Patty's s ... I also have

had the pleasure of meeting Rogene's wonderful husband Manny ...

And I've seen the opposite too.

One woman from Palm Springs had NEVER told her husband she had

implants ... in fact, she lied about it since he told her on their

first date how 'dumb' women were to get them ... he NEVER realized

it in 10 years of marriage ...

Then ... when she got so sick and had to have them out ... that was

the end of their marriage ...

{Obviously they had some communication issues before ... }

Just wanted to share that I've truly heard from women with men from

the best to the worst ...

Blessings to you Beth ... and to all the other beautiful spirits in

this group ...

Love from Ilena

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org

--- In , " Beth S. " <schaffe88@y...>

wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I've noticed that alot of women on this group have wonderful

husbands that stand behind you. Do you have any idea how rare and

wonderful that is to have?

>

> I have been single all my life. I've dated many cads and kissed

many frogs. After I became ill I couldn't even get a date! As soon

as they heard that I was ill, they would run for the hills!

>

> Not that I've had much energy to date but there was a time that I

lost 30 pounds and was forcing myself to get out even if I had to

drink a ton of caffeine. They could see that I was healthy but as

soon as you mention fibro or chronic fatigue, that was it.

>

> It isn't as though it is something that you can keep to yourself

> either. Most men want to know where you work so the conversation

almost always will lead to that. I told one guy I had peripheral

neuropathy. When he asked what it was and I told him it was nerve

damage in my legs, he just about jumped up and ran. He couldn't get

to his car fast enough. Although he saw me walking and looking well

that was it.

>

> Since then I have given up. I figure that someday I'll meet

someone that will accept me for who I am and what I'm suffering

through. I might be 90 but I'll find him.....hopefully.

>

> So I just wanted to let all of the married ladies out there know

how lucky you are to have a husband that stands behind you. It is a

very rare thing to find! I envy all of you!

>

>

>

>

>

> Beth S.

> " Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole. " -

Caras

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Discover

> Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check

it out!

[Guest guest]

I am one of those lucky ones who has a wonderful husband, but let me share something with you. I lost my first marriage partially because of the implant illness. I was married before I got the implants and when I became Ill my husband hated me for being sick all the time. He thought that I was just screaming for attention in some weird way and never believed that there was anything wrong with me. He took the attitude of "you need to get over it, I'm not helping you". When my son was about 3 and i had been separated for almost a year, I met my second husband. I told him all along that I was "broken" and that I didn't know why. He accepted me for who I was and has stood by me through all the frustrations. Now that we know the truth and I am having them out, we see a huge light at the end of the tunnel. But then there is my ex, my son's father. When I told him everything he was crushed. He couldn't stop apologizing for his past behaviors, and he realized how unfair he had been. Yesterday he was here to take our son back with him for the summer. While he was here he went outside and trimmed my trees and helped to clean my front yard while my husband was at work. That's more than he ever did during our 8 years of marriage! I think my point is that if you find someone who will accept you for who you are, sick and all, it is so much easier on the relationship. Having a relationship and becoming ill is not easy to go through, and even those guys that seem like jerks really just don't have it in them to be understanding when you need it most. Hang in there, you will find someone that accepts you.

hugs,

-- Just an observation......................

Hi Everyone,I've noticed that alot of women on this group have wonderful husbands that stand behind you. Do you have any idea how rare and wonderful that is to have?I have been single all my life. I've dated many cads and kissed many frogs. After I became ill I couldn't even get a date! As soon as they heard that I was ill, they would run for the hills! Not that I've had much energy to date but there was a time that I lost 30 pounds and was forcing myself to get out even if I had to drink a ton of caffeine. They could see that I was healthy but as soon as you mention fibro or chronic fatigue, that was it. It isn't as though it is something that you can keep to yourself either. Most men want to know where you work so the conversation almost always will lead to that. I told one guy I had peripheral neuropathy. When he asked what it was and I told him it was nerve damage in my legs, he just about jumped up and ran. He couldn't get to his car fast enough. Although he saw me walking and looking well that was it. Since then I have given up. I figure that someday I'll meet someone that will accept me for who I am and what I'm suffering through. I might be 90 but I'll find him.....hopefully.So I just wanted to let all of the married ladies out there know how lucky you are to have a husband that stands behind you. It is a very rare thing to find! I envy all of you!

Beth S.

"Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole." - Caras

Discover Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

We love you soooo Much....Me

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Re: Just an observation......................

> Hi Beth,

>

> Thanks for sharing about your personal situation with men ...

>

> Working with women in this cause for 10 years now ... I've seen the

> whole gambit of men ...

>

> Some fabulously fantastic like Lea & Patty's s ... I also have

> had the pleasure of meeting Rogene's wonderful husband Manny ...

>

> And I've seen the opposite too.

>

> One woman from Palm Springs had NEVER told her husband she had

> implants ... in fact, she lied about it since he told her on their

> first date how 'dumb' women were to get them ... he NEVER realized

> it in 10 years of marriage ...

>

> Then ... when she got so sick and had to have them out ... that was

> the end of their marriage ...

>

> {Obviously they had some communication issues before ... }

>

> Just wanted to share that I've truly heard from women with men from

> the best to the worst ...

>

> Blessings to you Beth ... and to all the other beautiful spirits in

> this group ...

>

> Love from Ilena

> www.BreastImplantAwareness.org

>

>

>

>

>> Hi Everyone,

>>

>> I've noticed that alot of women on this group have wonderful

> husbands that stand behind you. Do you have any idea how rare and

> wonderful that is to have?

>>

>> I have been single all my life. I've dated many cads and kissed

> many frogs. After I became ill I couldn't even get a date! As soon

> as they heard that I was ill, they would run for the hills!

>>

>> Not that I've had much energy to date but there was a time that I

> lost 30 pounds and was forcing myself to get out even if I had to

> drink a ton of caffeine. They could see that I was healthy but as

> soon as you mention fibro or chronic fatigue, that was it.

>>

>> It isn't as though it is something that you can keep to yourself

>> either. Most men want to know where you work so the conversation

> almost always will lead to that. I told one guy I had peripheral

> neuropathy. When he asked what it was and I told him it was nerve

> damage in my legs, he just about jumped up and ran. He couldn't get

> to his car fast enough. Although he saw me walking and looking well

> that was it.

>>

>> Since then I have given up. I figure that someday I'll meet

> someone that will accept me for who I am and what I'm suffering

> through. I might be 90 but I'll find him.....hopefully.

>>

>> So I just wanted to let all of the married ladies out there know

> how lucky you are to have a husband that stands behind you. It is a

> very rare thing to find! I envy all of you!

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Beth S.

>> " Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole. " -

> Caras

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ---------------------------------

>> Discover

>> Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check

> it out!

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

... What a lot you've gone thru too. Thanks for sharing that

with us.

Did you see the letter from the woman from Extreme Makeover? They

are offering to do an explant surgery on their show.

Here is what she posted on alt.support.breast-implant yesterday:

Looking for Breast Explant Candidate

http://talkaboutsupport.com/group/alt.support.breast-

implant/messages/121448.html

by andrea@...

Jun 7, 2005 at 11:26 AM

I'm a producer on ABC's reality show " Extreme Makeover. " I've been

doing some research and finding the personal stories relating to

breast

explant surgery fascinating. I think our viewers would agree.

~~~~~~~~~

Dear ,

Thank you so much for posting this on our newsgroup and making this

offer. It would be a dream come thru to have this side of the story

told on your show.

I will distribute this to our support list ... I believe there may

well be women who would be willing to do this and have no other

means to pay for explant surgery.

Thank you so much.

Best regards,

Ilena Rosenthal

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org

> I am one of those lucky ones who has a wonderful husband, but let

me share

> something with you. I lost my first marriage partially because of

the

> implant illness. I was married before I got the implants and when

I became

> Ill my husband hated me for being sick all the time. He thought

that I was

> just screaming for attention in some weird way and never believed

that there

> was anything wrong with me. He took the attitude of " you need to

get over it

> I'm not helping you " . When my son was about 3 and i had been

separated for

> almost a year, I met my second husband. I told him all along that

I was

> broken " and that I didn't know why. He accepted me for who I was

and has

> stood by me through all the frustrations. Now that we know the

truth and I

> am having them out, we see a huge light at the end of the tunnel.

But then

> there is my ex, my son's father. When I told him everything he was

crushed.

> He couldn't stop apologizing for his past behaviors, and he

realized how

> unfair he had been. Yesterday he was here to take our son back

with him for

> the summer. While he was here he went outside and trimmed my trees

and

> helped to clean my front yard while my husband was at work. That's

more than

> he ever did during our 8 years of marriage! I think my point is

that if you

> find someone who will accept you for who you are, sick and all, it

is so

> much easier on the relationship. Having a relationship and

becoming ill is

> not easy to go through, and even those guys that seem like jerks

really just

> don't have it in them to be understanding when you need it most.

Hang in

> there, you will find someone that accepts you.

>

> hugs,

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your kind words. I just hope I'm not 90 when Mr. Right comes along. <ktitko@...> wrote:

I am one of those lucky ones who has a wonderful husband, but let me share something with you. I lost my first marriage partially because of the implant illness. I was married before I got the implants and when I became Ill my husband hated me for being sick all the time. He thought that I was just screaming for attention in some weird way and never believed that there was anything wrong with me. He took the attitude of "you need to get over it, I'm not helping you". When my son was about 3 and i had been separated for almost a year, I met my second husband. I told him all along that I was "broken" and that I didn't know why. He accepted me for who I was and has stood by me through all the frustrations. Now that we know the truth and I am having them out, we see a huge light at the end of the tunnel. But then there is my ex, my son's father. When I told him everything he was crushed. He couldn't stop apologizing for his past behaviors, and he realized

how unfair he had been. Yesterday he was here to take our son back with him for the summer. While he was here he went outside and trimmed my trees and helped to clean my front yard while my husband was at work. That's more than he ever did during our 8 years of marriage! I think my point is that if you find someone who will accept you for who you are, sick and all, it is so much easier on the relationship. Having a relationship and becoming ill is not easy to go through, and even those guys that seem like jerks really just don't have it in them to be understanding when you need it most. Hang in there, you will find someone that accepts you.

hugs,

-- Just an observation......................

Hi Everyone,I've noticed that alot of women on this group have wonderful husbands that stand behind you. Do you have any idea how rare and wonderful that is to have?I have been single all my life. I've dated many cads and kissed many frogs. After I became ill I couldn't even get a date! As soon as they heard that I was ill, they would run for the hills! Not that I've had much energy to date but there was a time that I lost 30 pounds and was forcing myself to get out even if I had to drink a ton of caffeine. They could see that I was healthy but as soon as you mention fibro or chronic fatigue, that was it. It isn't as though it is something that you can keep to yourself either. Most men want to know where you work so the conversation almost always will lead to that. I told one guy I had peripheral neuropathy. When he asked what it was and I told him it was nerve damage in my legs, he

just about jumped up and ran. He couldn't get to his car fast enough. Although he saw me walking and looking well that was it. Since then I have given up. I figure that someday I'll meet someone that will accept me for who I am and what I'm suffering through. I might be 90 but I'll find him.....hopefully.So I just wanted to let all of the married ladies out there know how lucky you are to have a husband that stands behind you. It is a very rare thing to find! I envy all of you!

Beth S.

"Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole." - Caras

Discover Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

,

It's wonderful you have a husband willing to stick

with you through thick and thin . . .

I'm sure your ex is realizing what he lost because he

didn't listen . . . He's missing out on so many events

in his son's life . . . Most people don't realize that

divorce isn't a single action . . . When there are

children involved, it reverberates the rest of ones

life!

It's good that you ex is apologetic though. That

should ease the relationship you need to maintain for

the welfare of your son.

My hubby and I have had our ups and downs through all

this . . . Many times our marriage was hanging on by a

thread. At the time I experienced God, it was getting

really bad! But, since then, it's been getting better

all the time. It's only recently that he's come to

understand my involvement in implant support and

realizing how important it is to me!

Even with good men, relationships require work! I

believe God puts us on this earth to learn certain

lessons! . . . A lot of them come with marriage!

God Bless,

Rogene