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A few minutes ago i took an Excedrine because I

thought a headache might be coming on.

Dear Jayme: Welcome to the group. Alas, you won't find anyone on this list who will tout the benefits of any of these drugs. Even Dr. Temple at the FDA claims that Prozac stays with you permanently, so it's not likely that you really got away unscathed. Your statement above is kind of amusing. Taking Excedrin because you felt a headache coming on sounds so strange to me. It would never occur to me to take anything unless I already had developed a headache, but then I abhor putting anything chemical into my body. You'll get lots of useful information from this site and its participants, but you're not likely to hear any comments about how wonderfully Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft etc. really worked becasue almost all of us have been seriously damaged by these drugs.

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Hi everyone. I've been lurking a few days and I find this group to be

refreshing and very much needed. I run a mailing list for

consumers/survivors that is not a discussion list, but me just posting

articles i find here and there from various groups. Not surprisingly, most

of the articles are about psych meds and the effects they have on people. I

am adamantly opposed to forced medication. I was forcibly drugged many times

and the trauma of it all is something I am still dealing with. Just the

thought of a institutionalized child, let alone an adult, being forcibly

drugged brings me to tears. But everything these days brings me to tears.

I have been off Prozac for three years now. I refuse to go back on it even

though my experience of it was absolutely wonderful. It was a miracle drug

for me. I had no withdrawals from it when I quit abruptly. I didn't know any

better at the time, which is why I didn't stop gradually. I was just lucky.

I am torn inside about Prozac because it was so effective.

A little background...

As a child I had no clue that our bodies had something called an immune

system and had the ability to heal itself. I believed that if you got sick

and you didn't take medication, you would die. I don't think my parents knew

any different either. So i have never known a life without foreign chemicals

in my body. I am now 42 years old, and I have been trying for years to be

drug free.

If it wasn't prescribed or OTC drugs, it was street drugs. I finally gave

up pot two weeks ago. I am still taking Klonopin, though very rarely

(until i quit smoking pot). A few minutes ago i took an Excedrine because I

thought a headache might be coming on. I used to take an average of six

Excedrine a day, so there is progress in my story. I do see that.

it seems like whenever i stop one drug, I find another to replace it. i need

to pop a pill or smoke something or be anything but my Pure Self. Some of it

is conditioning and some of it is habit. Ironically i am a health nut. I eat

lots of things that are good for me and I exercise and meditate daily. i

started (again) to pop more nutritional pills. I just started on a GNC

Multi-vitamin and B complex, and I will be starting on fish oil in a few

days (I just ordered it from GNC). I have tried substituting my pill popping

habits with healthy pills in the past, and i am ready to try again.

The last two months I have had the worst depression i have ever had. i cry

constantly. I can still function with things I have to do but I am SO

TEMPTED to go back on Prozac just for some relief. i really, really liked

Prozac, but i would feel like a hypocrite (to myself) if i did. i have a

whole bottle (expired 2 years ago) still in my medicine cabinet. it's like i

want Prozac more than i want pot or caffeine or cigarettes or anything else

of a chemical nature.

So my plan is to keep on crying until all the tears are gone and to keep on

trying to be drug free with the exception of certain supplements. That is my

plan. Any advice on supplements for depression is welcome. So far it's just

the two GNC products i have mentioned. I just want a break from all this

crying. And as you can tell, I am torn about taking Prozac. Thank you for

reading.

Jayme

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Hi Jayme, please hang in there. I'm new here and haven't quit my 30 mil. paxil yet. Not looking forward to it!!! Yet I want to be free from it. I'll say a prayer for you that you will get through this crying. I have a doc. appt. this Friday and the doctor will most likely tell me to stay on the paxil, but I don't care what he says...This is my body and my mind. I too am taking suppliments or beginning to. I was told to take vit. B complex, fish oil, calcium magnesium, multi-vitamins. Drink lots of water!!!. I quit sugar about 2 months ago, so hopefully that will help. This group really does seem to care and I'm sure you'll get lots of good advise. I will be praying for you. Blessings, Connie p.s. in about a week I may be begging for your prayers.

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Hi everyone. I've been lurking a few days and I find this group to berefreshing and very much needed. I run a mailing list forconsumers/survivors that is not a discussion list, but me just postingarticles i find here and there from various groups. Not surprisingly, mostof the articles are about psych meds and the effects they have on people. Iam adamantly opposed to forced medication. I was forcibly drugged many timesand the trauma of it all is something I am still dealing with. Just thethought of a institutionalized child, let alone an adult, being forciblydrugged brings me to tears. But everything these days brings me to tears.I have been off Prozac for three years now. I refuse to go back on it eventhough my experience of it was absolutely wonderful. It was a miracle drugfor me. I had no withdrawals from it when I quit abruptly. I didn't know anybetter at the time, which is why I didn't stop gradually. I was just lucky.I am torn inside about Prozac because it was so effective.A little background...As a child I had no clue that our bodies had something called an immunesystem and had the ability to heal itself. I believed that if you got sickand you didn't take medication, you would die. I don't think my parents knewany different either. So i have never known a life without foreign chemicalsin my body. I am now 42 years old, and I have been trying for years to bedrug free.If it wasn't prescribed or OTC drugs, it was street drugs. I finally gaveup pot two weeks ago. I am still taking Klonopin, though very rarely(until i quit smoking pot). A few minutes ago i took an Excedrine because Ithought a headache might be coming on. I used to take an average of sixExcedrine a day, so there is progress in my story. I do see that.it seems like whenever i stop one drug, I find another to replace it. i needto pop a pill or smoke something or be anything but my Pure Self. Some of itis conditioning and some of it is habit. Ironically i am a health nut. I eatlots of things that are good for me and I exercise and meditate daily. istarted (again) to pop more nutritional pills. I just started on a GNCMulti-vitamin and B complex, and I will be starting on fish oil in a fewdays (I just ordered it from GNC). I have tried substituting my pill poppinghabits with healthy pills in the past, and i am ready to try again.The last two months I have had the worst depression i have ever had. i cryconstantly. I can still function with things I have to do but I am SOTEMPTED to go back on Prozac just for some relief. i really, really likedProzac, but i would feel like a hypocrite (to myself) if i did. i have awhole bottle (expired 2 years ago) still in my medicine cabinet. it's like iwant Prozac more than i want pot or caffeine or cigarettes or anything elseof a chemical nature.So my plan is to keep on crying until all the tears are gone and to keep ontrying to be drug free with the exception of certain supplements. That is myplan. Any advice on supplements for depression is welcome. So far it's justthe two GNC products i have mentioned. I just want a break from all thiscrying. And as you can tell, I am torn about taking Prozac. Thank you forreading.JaymeTo subscribe to the off-topic list go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/socialWandR/

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and I sure wasn't trying to amuse you by revealing my Excedrine habit and the mindset I have been following. I am very angry at your response to me

I didn't find your post about excedrin amusing per se, just the attitude that you would take something for a headache that hadn't happened yet. It seems to me, after hearing peoples' stories for the last 7 years, that the eagerness to take "something" for "something" is what led a lot of people down the psych med path -- a quick fix for whatever was ailing them. And in those 7 years, I've never met anyone for whom Prozac really worked. Most people are very high, euphoric even, in the beginning, meanwhile the drug is working its magic on your brain. The guy from the FDA didn't make the statement that prozac stays with you permanently because he didn't know what he was talking about. That IS the truth. Sorry my post made you angry; it's just my cynicism about the role that drugs like Prozac play in the degradation of society that sets me off.

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Oh Connie, thank you. Prayers all all I need, especially when they are

sincere. I have a special candle I light when I pray for someone, and I will

definitely light it for you when you need it. No begging required! There is

much power and healing in prayer. i believe that, and I thank you so much.

Blessings and hugs,

Jayme

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Hi Jayme, please hang in there. I'm new here and haven't quit my 30 mil.

paxil yet. Not looking forward to it!!! Yet I want to be free from it.

I'll say a prayer for you that you will get through this crying. I have a

doc. appt. this Friday and the doctor will most likely tell me to stay on

the paxil, but I don't care what he says...This is my body and my mind. I

too am taking suppliments or beginning to. I was told to take vit. B

complex, fish oil, calcium magnesium, multi-vitamins. Drink lots of

water!!!. I quit sugar about 2 months ago, so hopefully that will help.

This group really does seem to care and I'm sure you'll get lots of good

advise. I will be praying for you. Blessings, Connie p.s. in about a

week I may be begging for your prayers.

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I'm not looking -- and never expected -- for anyone to praise the drugs, and I sure wasn't trying to amuse you by revealing my Excedrine habit and the mindset I have been following. I am very angry at your response to me. I was pouring my heart out, being real, and I felt a superior attitude coming from you. I know email is a gray area when it comes to communications and intentions, but feelings are feelings, and I feel very angry!

Jayme

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A few minutes ago i took an Excedrine because Ithought a headache might be coming on.Dear Jayme: Welcome to the group. Alas, you won't find anyone on this list who will tout the benefits of any of these drugs. Even Dr. Temple at the FDA claims that Prozac stays with you permanently, so it's not likely that you really got away unscathed. Your statement above is kind of amusing. Taking Excedrin because you felt a headache coming on sounds so strange to me. It would never occur to me to take anything unless I already had developed a headache, but then I abhor putting anything chemical into my body. You'll get lots of useful information from this site and its participants, but you're not likely to hear any comments about how wonderfully Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft etc. really worked becasue almost all of us have been seriously damaged by these drugs.

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Hi Jayme,

Welcome to the group. I'm glad you found us. You will find a significant

amount of information, experience and support among our members.

You said:

<<I have been off Prozac for three years now. I refuse to go back on it even

though my experience of it was absolutely wonderful. It was a miracle drug

for me. I had no withdrawals from it when I quit abruptly. I didn't know any

better at the time, which is why I didn't stop gradually. I was just lucky.

I am torn inside about Prozac because it was so effective.>>

*** How long were you on the Prozac? People often feel wonderful, even

euphoric, for the first month or two of taking it. This is a result of the

stimulant effect Prozac tends to have, and is also a symptom of the onset of

brain damage.

When you abruptly discontinued the Prozac, were you taking other drugs at

the time? This can often blunt and/or mask the symptoms of withdrawal.

I point these factors out so that you will perhaps view Prozac as less of a

wonder drug. I respect you for being so determined not to go back on it,

and I hope that this will make it easier for you to maintain your

determination.

<<The last two months I have had the worst depression i have ever had. i cry

constantly. I can still function with things I have to do but I am SO

TEMPTED to go back on Prozac just for some relief. i really, really liked

Prozac, but i would feel like a hypocrite (to myself) if i did. >>

***I am sorry to hear that you are having such a difficult time. While I

respect your philosophical anti-drug stance, let me reinforce it again: I

don't think you need to be concerned about hypocrisy so much as brain

damage.

Is there anything going on in your life or your history that would explain

your feelings of depression? I can point to one potential cause--your

abrupt discontinuation of Prozac. This is not to imply in any way that you

needed the Prozac. But this is a symptom of the kind of damage psychotropic

drugs can do.

<<it's like i

want Prozac more than i want pot or caffeine or cigarettes or anything else

of a chemical nature.>>

***Perhaps it is relief that you are craving. Pills and chemicals have

become a symbol of relief in Western society. They are the quick fix, the

easy way out that we have all been conditioned to seek. Unfortunately, much

of the time they end up making us worse.

<<Any advice on supplements for depression is welcome. >>

***I can recommend some supplements that support optimal physical (and

therefore emotional) health. The Supralife products, Ultra Body Toddy and

Mineral Toddy have worked wonderfully well for many people. Here are some

links.

Ultra Body Toddy $37.10 here:

http://www.healingwithnutrition.com/products/indexfullspectrum.html

Mineral Toddy $17 here:

http://www.healingwithnutrition.com/products/indexmineral.html

Fish oil is another extremely helpful supplement. I see that you have

ordered some. Let us know how it works for you.

You seem to have made a very good start on dealing with your problem. Keep

up the good work!

Warmly,

Kim

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  • 7 years later...

Just in case there's anyone other than me that has a hard time reading

capitalised text, I've pasted Allas story again after processing it

through word.

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Hi group.

My name is allan. I am a former wrestler and the former strenght coach

of richard steele's boxing club here in las vegas. I started using dmso

topically about a year ago. I suffer from a bone disorder called

avascular necrosis. I am 43yrs.old. I have had both of my hips replaced

and an l-4, l-5 lumbar fusion. To say i am a person that lives with pain

daily would be an understatement. While at the gym i meet an older lady

that told me about dmso. I looked up this wonder drug on the internet to

learn more about it. After studying the articles for a few weeks i

decided to give it a try. I was taking up to 8 10-500 hydrocodon a day.

So i figured what did i realy have to lose.

At first i thought i had psched my self into believing the pain in my

hips and lower back had died down some. To be honest i didnt know if it

was the meds or the dmso. I was using both at the time. About a week

went by before i decided to give the dmso a try without the meds. Wow!

Is the only word that came to mind as i used that garlicie, greasie

magic potion. Hey i didnt smell great but i didnt hurt either. Dmso made

it possible for me to train my clients and workout like there was

nothing wrong with me at all. I felt better than i had in years. I was

offically on the dmso band wagon.thats just the begining of my story.

About 6 months went by and i started having pains in my shoulders. The

avascular necrosis had started to deteriorate my shoulder joints. It

wasnt very painful. Kind of like having a toothache in your shoulder.

The doctor said eventually both my shoulders would be affected and would

have to be replaced. Needless to say i didnt take that news very well. I

fell into a depression. The thought of another surgery tore into my

soul. I would damn near be bionic. Two hips, titanium lower back and now

both my shoulders? I just couldnt deal with it.

A crisis of faith and another challange. I went from a strongman to a

cripple and still that wasnt the end. I let the darknes get me down i

couldnt get past the thought of what i was going to have to endure. At

42yrs old. I had what i felt was my fair share of pain, scars, drugs and

rehab. I went from a 207lb. Tough guy. To a 173lb. Depressed shell. I

used the dmso so i was not in physical pain. I suffered from self pitty

and insomnia. I gave up on everything and turned my pain into my beast

of burden.

At a low point i was putting an ad on craigslist to sell my boxing gear

and weight equipment. I wasnt gonna need them anymore. I was finished as

an athelete and as a coach. I faded so far at that point i was going to

sell weight equipment i trucked around from new jersey to las vegas . I

didnt have it in me to care any more.

About a month ago i recieved an email about joint pain. I clicked the

link and it was about dmso and its ability to help other supplements be

absorbed into the body more efficently. That link led to another with

this young mma kid mixing dmso and msm powder with water and drinking

it. A fire was lit. I started researching the effects of ingesting dmso

orally. To my suprise it was possible. I wanted to avoid another surgery

like the plauge. So i was desperate to try anything that would keep me

in my original parts.i recieved another email about using type 1

collegen to repair damadged ligements and joints. At that piont

something clicked. I would mix the two together and just see what would

happen. Would it help spare my joints from the knife? I wasnt sure but i

was gonna try it.

I started using the dmso, type 1 collegen with vitamin c and started

using creatin. I was sick of feeling bad so like most body builder/

wrestler i went all in. I had nothing to lose. After the first week i

felt mentally free. By that i was not expectting a miricle but i was

feeling better. By the end of 3weeks i was back up to 190lbs. I was

starting to feel stronger and secure in my training. No i am not

suggesting anyone tries this or that i was cured or anything like that.

I am just saying what i was willing to try for my personal health. Dmso

is not sold as a medicine and i know that. I took all that into

consideration when i experimented with it. I am not saying i am cured of

anything. I am saying i can lift weights again. I dont go as heavy. I

dont want to push my luck. Bench press ,millitary press and dumbbell

lateral raises. I go about 70% of what i did before my shoulders started

bothering me. Squats and deadlifts i am doing 60% with the the hip

implants and lumbar fusion. I feel 100% better. Even the muscle sorniss

i use to get after lifting is down. I feel good again.

At 43yrs. Old i am getting my life back on track. I still set off metal

detectors in the airport. I chew alot more gum than i use too. (lol for

the garlic breath). But i feel great. No pain equals no doctors equals

no surgeries for me. This is like i said not a do as i did story. Do

only what you feel safe doing. I am just sharing how dmso has help me in

its none traditional use. You should always becareful and use any

product with care and sound judgement.

I felt impelled to share my dmso story with group. This solvent has

changed my life. Do whats right for you.

Thanks to all free thinkers

Alla

>

> HI GROUP.

> MY NAME IS ALLAN. I AM A FORMER WRESTLER AND THE FORMER STRENGHT COACH

> OF RICHARD STEELE'S BOXING CLUB HERE IN LAS VEGAS. I STARTED USING

> DMSO TOPICALLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO. I SUFFER FROM A BONE DISORDER CALLED

> AVASCULAR NECROSIS. I AM 43YRS.OLD. I HAVE HAD BOTH OF MY HIPS

> REPLACED AND AN L-4, L-5 LUMBAR FUSION. TO SAY I AM A PERSON THAT

> LIVES WITH PAIN DAILY WOULD BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT.

> WHILE AT THE GYM I MEET AN OLDER LADY THAT TOLD ME ABOUT DMSO. I

> LOOKED UP THIS WONDER DRUG ON THE INTERNET TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.

> AFTER STUDYING THE ARTICLES FOR A FEW WEEKS I DECIDED TO GIVE IT A

> TRY. I WAS TAKING UP TO 8 10-500 HYDROCODON A DAY. SO I FIGURED WHAT

> DID I REALY HAVE TO LOSE.

> AT FIRST I THOUGHT I HAD PSCHED MY SELF INTO BELIEVING THE PAIN IN MY

> HIPS AND LOWER BACK HAD DIED DOWN SOME. TO BE HONEST I DIDNT KNOW IF

> IT WAS THE MEDS OR THE DMSO. I WAS USING BOTH AT THE TIME. ABOUT A

> WEEK WENT BY BEFORE I DECIDED TO GIVE THE DMSO A TRY WITHOUT THE MEDS.

> WOW! IS THE ONLY WORD THAT CAME TO MIND AS I USED THAT GARLICIE,

> GREASIE MAGIC POTION. HEY I DIDNT SMELL GREAT BUT I DIDNT HURT EITHER.

> DMSO MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO TRAIN MY CLIENTS AND WORKOUT LIKE

> THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH ME AT ALL. I FELT BETTER THAN I HAD IN

> YEARS. I WAS OFFICALLY ON THE DMSO BAND WAGON.THATS JUST THE BEGINING

> OF MY STORY.

> ABOUT 6 MONTHS WENT BY AND I STARTED HAVING PAINS IN MY SHOULDERS. THE

> AVASCULAR NECROSIS HAD STARTED TO DETERIORATE MY SHOULDER JOINTS. IT

> WASNT VERY PAINFUL. KIND OF LIKE HAVING A TOOTHACHE IN YOUR SHOULDER.

> THE DOCTOR SAID EVENTUALLY BOTH MY SHOULDERS WOULD BE AFFECTED AND

> WOULD HAVE TO BE REPLACED. NEEDLESS TO SAY I DIDNT TAKE THAT NEWS VERY

> WELL. I FELL INTO A DEPRESSION. THE THOUGHT OF ANOTHER SURGERY TORE

> INTO MY SOUL. I WOULD DAMN NEAR BE BIONIC. TWO HIPS, TITANIUM LOWER

> BACK AND NOW BOTH MY SHOULDERS? I JUST COULDNT DEAL WITH IT.

> A CRISIS OF FAITH AND ANOTHER CHALLANGE. I WENT FROM A STRONGMAN TO A

> CRIPPLE AND STILL THAT WASNT THE END. I LET THE DARKNES GET ME DOWN I

> COULDNT GET PAST THE THOUGHT OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO ENDURE. AT

> 42YRS OLD. I HAD WHAT I FELT WAS MY FAIR SHARE OF PAIN, SCARS, DRUGS

> AND REHAB. I WENT FROM A 207LB. TOUGH GUY. TO A 173LB. DEPRESSED

> SHELL. I USED THE DMSO SO I WAS NOT IN PHYSICAL PAIN. I SUFFERED FROM

> SELF PITTY AND INSOMNIA. I GAVE UP ON EVERYTHING AND TURNED MY PAIN

> INTO MY BEAST OF BURDEN.

> AT A LOW POINT I WAS PUTTING AN AD ON CRAIGSLIST TO SELL MY BOXING

> GEAR AND WEIGHT EQUIPMENT. I WASNT GONNA NEED THEM ANYMORE. I WAS

> FINISHED AS AN ATHELETE AND AS A COACH. I FADED SO FAR AT THAT POINT I

> WAS GOING TO SELL WEIGHT EQUIPMENT I TRUCKED AROUND FROM NEW JERSEY TO

> LAS VEGAS . I DIDNT HAVE IT IN ME TO CARE ANY MORE.

> ABOUT A MONTH AGO I RECIEVED AN EMAIL ABOUT JOINT PAIN. I CLICKED THE

> LINK AND IT WAS ABOUT DMSO AND ITS ABILITY TO HELP OTHER SUPPLEMENTS

> BE ABSORBED INTO THE BODY MORE EFFICENTLY. THAT LINK LED TO ANOTHER

> WITH THIS YOUNG MMA KID MIXING DMSO AND MSM POWDER WITH WATER AND

> DRINKING IT. A FIRE WAS LIT. I STARTED RESEARCHING THE EFFECTS OF

> INGESTING DMSO ORALLY. TO MY SUPRISE IT WAS POSSIBLE. I WANTED TO

> AVOID ANOTHER SURGERY LIKE THE PLAUGE. SO I WAS DESPERATE TO TRY

> ANYTHING THAT WOULD KEEP ME IN MY ORIGINAL PARTS.I RECIEVED ANOTHER

> EMAIL ABOUT USING TYPE 1 COLLEGEN TO REPAIR DAMADGED LIGEMENTS AND

> JOINTS. AT THAT PIONT SOMETHING CLICKED. I WOULD MIX THE TWO TOGETHER

> AND JUST SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. WOULD IT HELP SPARE MY JOINTS FROM THE

> KNIFE? I WASNT SURE BUT I WAS GONNA TRY IT.

> I STARTED USING THE DMSO, TYPE 1 COLLEGEN WITH VITAMIN C AND STARTED

> USING CREATIN. I WAS SICK OF FEELING BAD SO LIKE MOST BODY BUILDER/

> WRESTLER I WENT ALL IN. I HAD NOTHING TO LOSE.

> AFTER THE FIRST WEEK I FELT MENTALLY FREE. BY THAT I WAS NOT

> EXPECTTING A MIRICLE BUT I WAS FEELING BETTER. BY THE END OF 3WEEKS I

> WAS BACK UP TO 190LBS. I WAS STARTING TO FEEL STRONGER AND SECURE IN

> MY TRAINING.

> NO I AM NOT SUGGESTING ANYONE TRIES THIS OR THAT I WAS CURED OR

> ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I AM JUST SAYING WHAT I WAS WILLING TO TRY FOR MY

> PERSONAL HEALTH. DMSO IS NOT SOLD AS A MEDICINE AND I KNOW THAT. I

> TOOK ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN I EXPERIMENTED WITH IT. I AM NOT

> SAYING I AM CURED OF ANYTHING. I AM SAYING I CAN LIFT WEIGHTS AGAIN. I

> DONT GO AS HEAVY. I DONT WANT TO PUSH MY LUCK. BENCH PRESS ,MILLITARY

> PRESS AND DUMBBELL LATERAL RAISES. I GO ABOUT 70% OF WHAT I DID BEFORE

> MY SHOULDERS STARTED BOTHERING ME. SQUATS AND DEADLIFTS I AM DOING 60%

> WITH THE THE HIP IMPLANTS AND LUMBAR FUSION. I FEEL 100% BETTER. EVEN

> THE MUSCLE SORNISS I USE TO GET AFTER LIFTING IS DOWN. I FEEL GOOD AGAIN.

> AT 43YRS. OLD I AM GETTING MY LIFE BACK ON TRACK. I STILL SET OFF

> METAL DETECTORS IN THE AIRPORT. I CHEW ALOT MORE GUM THAN I USE TOO.

> (LOL FOR THE GARLIC BREATH). BUT I FEEL GREAT. NO PAIN EQUALS NO

> DOCTORS EQUALS NO SURGERIES FOR ME. THIS IS LIKE I SAID NOT A DO AS I

> DID STORY. DO ONLY WHAT YOU FEEL SAFE DOING. I AM JUST SHARING HOW

> DMSO HAS HELP ME IN ITS NONE TRADITIONAL USE. YOU SHOULD ALWAYS

> BECAREFUL AND USE ANY PRODUCT WITH CARE AND SOUND JUDGEMENT.

> I FELT IMPELLED TO SHARE MY DMSO STORY WITH GROUP. THIS SOLVENT HAS

> CHANGED MY LIFE. DO WHATS RIGHT FOR YOU.

>

> THANKS TO ALL FREE THINKERS

> ALLA

>

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Thank you PB, for processing Allan Story, it is worth saving, to learn new

things.

Here is what little I know, the Swedes over a fifteen year period, studies

depression, and autopsied those in the group who committed suicide, they

found those had a strange viral inflammation in the blood. They report that

inflammation in the blood stops the body from producing,

serotonin/dopamine, and others spots I read, it also shuts down the thyroid

production of hormones, which controls our metabolism, energy level.

It does not take a rocket scientist, to figure, having little energy and

little of the feel good neurotransmitters, can lead people to doom.

Of course this was all within my head, but never being depressed before, I

awoke one morning to hear a voice say, " why go on " , " what the use " , to me

those were strange words, it caused me to snap back, and fortunately I had

the where with all, to question. But after seven continuous days of this,

out of fear, I called my dock and went in, of course he knew, gave me an

anti depressant, within two days, I was on top of the world. So I can

understand where this man has been, now-a-days I use oral dmso to replace

anti depressants, work better than AD's, and no side affects.

Some how dmso seems to remove perhaps the inflammation from my blood,

Flourides, bromides and chlorine are used in many foods, medications we

take and do not even know they are there, they all replace iodine at the

receptor level, in fact that is what the anesthetist give us to put us

down. So I dose up on iodine to detox from them, using dmso to get them out

of my blood and kidneys, as it is a diuretic.

But, Allan's story is more important.

david lubbock tx.

> **

>

>

> Just in case there's anyone other than me that has a hard time reading

> capitalised text, I've pasted Allas story again after processing it

> through word.

>

> B

> _______________________________

>

> Hi group.

>

> My name is allan. I am a former wrestler and the former strenght coach

> of richard steele's boxing club here in las vegas. I started using dmso

> topically about a year ago. I suffer from a bone disorder called

> avascular necrosis. I am 43yrs.old. I have had both of my hips replaced

> and an l-4, l-5 lumbar fusion. To say i am a person that lives with pain

> daily would be an understatement. While at the gym i meet an older lady

> that told me about dmso. I looked up this wonder drug on the internet to

> learn more about it. After studying the articles for a few weeks i

> decided to give it a try. I was taking up to 8 10-500 hydrocodon a day.

> So i figured what did i realy have to lose.

>

> At first i thought i had psched my self into believing the pain in my

> hips and lower back had died down some. To be honest i didnt know if it

> was the meds or the dmso. I was using both at the time. About a week

> went by before i decided to give the dmso a try without the meds. Wow!

> Is the only word that came to mind as i used that garlicie, greasie

> magic potion. Hey i didnt smell great but i didnt hurt either. Dmso made

> it possible for me to train my clients and workout like there was

> nothing wrong with me at all. I felt better than i had in years. I was

> offically on the dmso band wagon.thats just the begining of my story.

>

> About 6 months went by and i started having pains in my shoulders. The

> avascular necrosis had started to deteriorate my shoulder joints. It

> wasnt very painful. Kind of like having a toothache in your shoulder.

> The doctor said eventually both my shoulders would be affected and would

> have to be replaced. Needless to say i didnt take that news very well. I

> fell into a depression. The thought of another surgery tore into my

> soul. I would damn near be bionic. Two hips, titanium lower back and now

> both my shoulders? I just couldnt deal with it.

>

> A crisis of faith and another challange. I went from a strongman to a

> cripple and still that wasnt the end. I let the darknes get me down i

> couldnt get past the thought of what i was going to have to endure. At

> 42yrs old. I had what i felt was my fair share of pain, scars, drugs and

> rehab. I went from a 207lb. Tough guy. To a 173lb. Depressed shell. I

> used the dmso so i was not in physical pain. I suffered from self pitty

> and insomnia. I gave up on everything and turned my pain into my beast

> of burden.

>

> At a low point i was putting an ad on craigslist to sell my boxing gear

> and weight equipment. I wasnt gonna need them anymore. I was finished as

> an athelete and as a coach. I faded so far at that point i was going to

> sell weight equipment i trucked around from new jersey to las vegas . I

> didnt have it in me to care any more.

>

> About a month ago i recieved an email about joint pain. I clicked the

> link and it was about dmso and its ability to help other supplements be

> absorbed into the body more efficently. That link led to another with

> this young mma kid mixing dmso and msm powder with water and drinking

> it. A fire was lit. I started researching the effects of ingesting dmso

> orally. To my suprise it was possible. I wanted to avoid another surgery

> like the plauge. So i was desperate to try anything that would keep me

> in my original parts.i recieved another email about using type 1

> collegen to repair damadged ligements and joints. At that piont

> something clicked. I would mix the two together and just see what would

> happen. Would it help spare my joints from the knife? I wasnt sure but i

> was gonna try it.

>

> I started using the dmso, type 1 collegen with vitamin c and started

> using creatin. I was sick of feeling bad so like most body builder/

> wrestler i went all in. I had nothing to lose. After the first week i

> felt mentally free. By that i was not expectting a miricle but i was

> feeling better. By the end of 3weeks i was back up to 190lbs. I was

> starting to feel stronger and secure in my training. No i am not

> suggesting anyone tries this or that i was cured or anything like that.

> I am just saying what i was willing to try for my personal health. Dmso

> is not sold as a medicine and i know that. I took all that into

> consideration when i experimented with it. I am not saying i am cured of

> anything. I am saying i can lift weights again. I dont go as heavy. I

> dont want to push my luck. Bench press ,millitary press and dumbbell

> lateral raises. I go about 70% of what i did before my shoulders started

> bothering me. Squats and deadlifts i am doing 60% with the the hip

> implants and lumbar fusion. I feel 100% better. Even the muscle sorniss

> i use to get after lifting is down. I feel good again.

>

> At 43yrs. Old i am getting my life back on track. I still set off metal

> detectors in the airport. I chew alot more gum than i use too. (lol for

> the garlic breath). But i feel great. No pain equals no doctors equals

> no surgeries for me. This is like i said not a do as i did story. Do

> only what you feel safe doing. I am just sharing how dmso has help me in

> its none traditional use. You should always becareful and use any

> product with care and sound judgement.

>

> I felt impelled to share my dmso story with group. This solvent has

> changed my life. Do whats right for you.

>

> Thanks to all free thinkers

>

> Alla

>

>

>

> >

> > HI GROUP.

> > MY NAME IS ALLAN. I AM A FORMER WRESTLER AND THE FORMER STRENGHT COACH

> > OF RICHARD STEELE'S BOXING CLUB HERE IN LAS VEGAS. I STARTED USING

> > DMSO TOPICALLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO. I SUFFER FROM A BONE DISORDER CALLED

> > AVASCULAR NECROSIS. I AM 43YRS.OLD. I HAVE HAD BOTH OF MY HIPS

> > REPLACED AND AN L-4, L-5 LUMBAR FUSION. TO SAY I AM A PERSON THAT

> > LIVES WITH PAIN DAILY WOULD BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT.

> > WHILE AT THE GYM I MEET AN OLDER LADY THAT TOLD ME ABOUT DMSO. I

> > LOOKED UP THIS WONDER DRUG ON THE INTERNET TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.

> > AFTER STUDYING THE ARTICLES FOR A FEW WEEKS I DECIDED TO GIVE IT A

> > TRY. I WAS TAKING UP TO 8 10-500 HYDROCODON A DAY. SO I FIGURED WHAT

> > DID I REALY HAVE TO LOSE.

> > AT FIRST I THOUGHT I HAD PSCHED MY SELF INTO BELIEVING THE PAIN IN MY

> > HIPS AND LOWER BACK HAD DIED DOWN SOME. TO BE HONEST I DIDNT KNOW IF

> > IT WAS THE MEDS OR THE DMSO. I WAS USING BOTH AT THE TIME. ABOUT A

> > WEEK WENT BY BEFORE I DECIDED TO GIVE THE DMSO A TRY WITHOUT THE MEDS.

> > WOW! IS THE ONLY WORD THAT CAME TO MIND AS I USED THAT GARLICIE,

> > GREASIE MAGIC POTION. HEY I DIDNT SMELL GREAT BUT I DIDNT HURT EITHER.

> > DMSO MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO TRAIN MY CLIENTS AND WORKOUT LIKE

> > THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH ME AT ALL. I FELT BETTER THAN I HAD IN

> > YEARS. I WAS OFFICALLY ON THE DMSO BAND WAGON.THATS JUST THE BEGINING

> > OF MY STORY.

> > ABOUT 6 MONTHS WENT BY AND I STARTED HAVING PAINS IN MY SHOULDERS. THE

> > AVASCULAR NECROSIS HAD STARTED TO DETERIORATE MY SHOULDER JOINTS. IT

> > WASNT VERY PAINFUL. KIND OF LIKE HAVING A TOOTHACHE IN YOUR SHOULDER.

> > THE DOCTOR SAID EVENTUALLY BOTH MY SHOULDERS WOULD BE AFFECTED AND

> > WOULD HAVE TO BE REPLACED. NEEDLESS TO SAY I DIDNT TAKE THAT NEWS VERY

> > WELL. I FELL INTO A DEPRESSION. THE THOUGHT OF ANOTHER SURGERY TORE

> > INTO MY SOUL. I WOULD DAMN NEAR BE BIONIC. TWO HIPS, TITANIUM LOWER

> > BACK AND NOW BOTH MY SHOULDERS? I JUST COULDNT DEAL WITH IT.

> > A CRISIS OF FAITH AND ANOTHER CHALLANGE. I WENT FROM A STRONGMAN TO A

> > CRIPPLE AND STILL THAT WASNT THE END. I LET THE DARKNES GET ME DOWN I

> > COULDNT GET PAST THE THOUGHT OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO ENDURE. AT

> > 42YRS OLD. I HAD WHAT I FELT WAS MY FAIR SHARE OF PAIN, SCARS, DRUGS

> > AND REHAB. I WENT FROM A 207LB. TOUGH GUY. TO A 173LB. DEPRESSED

> > SHELL. I USED THE DMSO SO I WAS NOT IN PHYSICAL PAIN. I SUFFERED FROM

> > SELF PITTY AND INSOMNIA. I GAVE UP ON EVERYTHING AND TURNED MY PAIN

> > INTO MY BEAST OF BURDEN.

> > AT A LOW POINT I WAS PUTTING AN AD ON CRAIGSLIST TO SELL MY BOXING

> > GEAR AND WEIGHT EQUIPMENT. I WASNT GONNA NEED THEM ANYMORE. I WAS

> > FINISHED AS AN ATHELETE AND AS A COACH. I FADED SO FAR AT THAT POINT I

> > WAS GOING TO SELL WEIGHT EQUIPMENT I TRUCKED AROUND FROM NEW JERSEY TO

> > LAS VEGAS . I DIDNT HAVE IT IN ME TO CARE ANY MORE.

> > ABOUT A MONTH AGO I RECIEVED AN EMAIL ABOUT JOINT PAIN. I CLICKED THE

> > LINK AND IT WAS ABOUT DMSO AND ITS ABILITY TO HELP OTHER SUPPLEMENTS

> > BE ABSORBED INTO THE BODY MORE EFFICENTLY. THAT LINK LED TO ANOTHER

> > WITH THIS YOUNG MMA KID MIXING DMSO AND MSM POWDER WITH WATER AND

> > DRINKING IT. A FIRE WAS LIT. I STARTED RESEARCHING THE EFFECTS OF

> > INGESTING DMSO ORALLY. TO MY SUPRISE IT WAS POSSIBLE. I WANTED TO

> > AVOID ANOTHER SURGERY LIKE THE PLAUGE. SO I WAS DESPERATE TO TRY

> > ANYTHING THAT WOULD KEEP ME IN MY ORIGINAL PARTS.I RECIEVED ANOTHER

> > EMAIL ABOUT USING TYPE 1 COLLEGEN TO REPAIR DAMADGED LIGEMENTS AND

> > JOINTS. AT THAT PIONT SOMETHING CLICKED. I WOULD MIX THE TWO TOGETHER

> > AND JUST SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. WOULD IT HELP SPARE MY JOINTS FROM THE

> > KNIFE? I WASNT SURE BUT I WAS GONNA TRY IT.

> > I STARTED USING THE DMSO, TYPE 1 COLLEGEN WITH VITAMIN C AND STARTED

> > USING CREATIN. I WAS SICK OF FEELING BAD SO LIKE MOST BODY BUILDER/

> > WRESTLER I WENT ALL IN. I HAD NOTHING TO LOSE.

> > AFTER THE FIRST WEEK I FELT MENTALLY FREE. BY THAT I WAS NOT

> > EXPECTTING A MIRICLE BUT I WAS FEELING BETTER. BY THE END OF 3WEEKS I

> > WAS BACK UP TO 190LBS. I WAS STARTING TO FEEL STRONGER AND SECURE IN

> > MY TRAINING.

> > NO I AM NOT SUGGESTING ANYONE TRIES THIS OR THAT I WAS CURED OR

> > ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I AM JUST SAYING WHAT I WAS WILLING TO TRY FOR MY

> > PERSONAL HEALTH. DMSO IS NOT SOLD AS A MEDICINE AND I KNOW THAT. I

> > TOOK ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN I EXPERIMENTED WITH IT. I AM NOT

> > SAYING I AM CURED OF ANYTHING. I AM SAYING I CAN LIFT WEIGHTS AGAIN. I

> > DONT GO AS HEAVY. I DONT WANT TO PUSH MY LUCK. BENCH PRESS ,MILLITARY

> > PRESS AND DUMBBELL LATERAL RAISES. I GO ABOUT 70% OF WHAT I DID BEFORE

> > MY SHOULDERS STARTED BOTHERING ME. SQUATS AND DEADLIFTS I AM DOING 60%

> > WITH THE THE HIP IMPLANTS AND LUMBAR FUSION. I FEEL 100% BETTER. EVEN

> > THE MUSCLE SORNISS I USE TO GET AFTER LIFTING IS DOWN. I FEEL GOOD AGAIN.

> > AT 43YRS. OLD I AM GETTING MY LIFE BACK ON TRACK. I STILL SET OFF

> > METAL DETECTORS IN THE AIRPORT. I CHEW ALOT MORE GUM THAN I USE TOO.

> > (LOL FOR THE GARLIC BREATH). BUT I FEEL GREAT. NO PAIN EQUALS NO

> > DOCTORS EQUALS NO SURGERIES FOR ME. THIS IS LIKE I SAID NOT A DO AS I

> > DID STORY. DO ONLY WHAT YOU FEEL SAFE DOING. I AM JUST SHARING HOW

> > DMSO HAS HELP ME IN ITS NONE TRADITIONAL USE. YOU SHOULD ALWAYS

> > BECAREFUL AND USE ANY PRODUCT WITH CARE AND SOUND JUDGEMENT.

> > I FELT IMPELLED TO SHARE MY DMSO STORY WITH GROUP. THIS SOLVENT HAS

> > CHANGED MY LIFE. DO WHATS RIGHT FOR YOU.

> >

> > THANKS TO ALL FREE THINKERS

> > ALLA

> >

> >

>

>

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How utterly kind of you, .

> **

>

>

> Just in case there's anyone other than me that has a hard time reading

> capitalised text, I've pasted Allas story again after processing it

> through word.

>

> B

> _______________________________

>

>

>

>

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I second that. I can read all caps a lot easier if the lines are double

spaced for some reason.

>

> How utterly kind of you, .

>

> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:40 AM, <pmbond@...

> <mailto:pmbond%40gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > Just in case there's anyone other than me that has a hard time reading

> > capitalised text, I've pasted Allas story again after processing it

> > through word.

> >

> > B

> > _______________________________

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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Hi Al,

Thanks for sharing your great story! I've forwarded this to a friend

whose 'good' knee just had a torn meniscus, and to whom I'd given a

DMSO roll-on.

I'm so sorry to hear of your condition. These weird and difficult

diseases (I have chronic Lyme disease) take so much away from us, and

it takes a lot of courage to keep looking at the glass as half full,

but amidst the change and loss, we meet our deepest selves. At a yard

sale I found a cross-stitch panel that says, 'Adversity introduces us

to ourselves'. I treasure it.

Looking forward to your posts in this group.

Be well,

Léna

HI GROUP.

MY NAME IS ALLAN. I AM A FORMER WRESTLER AND THE FORMER STRENGHT COACH

OF RICHARD STEELE'S BOXING CLUB HERE IN LAS VEGAS. I STARTED USING

DMSO TOPICALLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO. I SUFFER FROM A BONE DISORDER CALLED

AVASCULAR NECROSIS. I AM 43YRS.OLD. I HAVE HAD BOTH OF MY HIPS

REPLACED AND AN L-4, L-5 LUMBAR FUSION. TO SAY I AM A PERSON THAT

LIVES WITH PAIN DAILY WOULD BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT.

WHILE AT THE GYM I MEET AN OLDER LADY THAT TOLD ME ABOUT DMSO. I

LOOKED UP THIS WONDER DRUG ON THE INTERNET TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.

AFTER STUDYING THE ARTICLES FOR A FEW WEEKS I DECIDED TO GIVE IT A

TRY. I WAS TAKING UP TO 8 10-500 HYDROCODON A DAY. SO I FIGURED WHAT

DID I REALY HAVE TO LOSE.

AT FIRST I THOUGHT I HAD PSCHED MY SELF INTO BELIEVING THE PAIN IN MY

HIPS AND LOWER BACK HAD DIED DOWN SOME. TO BE HONEST I DIDNT KNOW IF

IT WAS THE MEDS OR THE DMSO. I WAS USING BOTH AT THE TIME. ABOUT A

WEEK WENT BY BEFORE I DECIDED TO GIVE THE DMSO A TRY WITHOUT THE MEDS.

WOW! IS THE ONLY WORD THAT CAME TO MIND AS I USED THAT GARLICIE,

GREASIE MAGIC POTION. HEY I DIDNT SMELL GREAT BUT I DIDNT HURT EITHER.

DMSO MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO TRAIN MY CLIENTS AND WORKOUT LIKE

THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH ME AT ALL. I FELT BETTER THAN I HAD IN

YEARS. I WAS OFFICALLY ON THE DMSO BAND WAGON.THATS JUST THE BEGINING

OF MY STORY.

ABOUT 6 MONTHS WENT BY AND I STARTED HAVING PAINS IN MY SHOULDERS. THE

AVASCULAR NECROSIS HAD STARTED TO DETERIORATE MY SHOULDER JOINTS. IT

WASNT VERY PAINFUL. KIND OF LIKE HAVING A TOOTHACHE IN YOUR SHOULDER.

THE DOCTOR SAID EVENTUALLY BOTH MY SHOULDERS WOULD BE AFFECTED AND

WOULD HAVE TO BE REPLACED. NEEDLESS TO SAY I DIDNT TAKE THAT NEWS VERY

WELL. I FELL INTO A DEPRESSION. THE THOUGHT OF ANOTHER SURGERY TORE

INTO MY SOUL. I WOULD DAMN NEAR BE BIONIC. TWO HIPS, TITANIUM LOWER

BACK AND NOW BOTH MY SHOULDERS? I JUST COULDNT DEAL WITH IT.

A CRISIS OF FAITH AND ANOTHER CHALLANGE. I WENT FROM A STRONGMAN TO A

CRIPPLE AND STILL THAT WASNT THE END. I LET THE DARKNES GET ME DOWN I

COULDNT GET PAST THE THOUGHT OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO ENDURE. AT

42YRS OLD. I HAD WHAT I FELT WAS MY FAIR SHARE OF PAIN, SCARS, DRUGS

AND REHAB. I WENT FROM A 207LB. TOUGH GUY. TO A 173LB. DEPRESSED

SHELL. I USED THE DMSO SO I WAS NOT IN PHYSICAL PAIN. I SUFFERED FROM

SELF PITTY AND INSOMNIA. I GAVE UP ON EVERYTHING AND TURNED MY PAIN

INTO MY BEAST OF BURDEN.

AT A LOW POINT I WAS PUTTING AN AD ON CRAIGSLIST TO SELL MY BOXING

GEAR AND WEIGHT EQUIPMENT. I WASNT GONNA NEED THEM ANYMORE. I WAS

FINISHED AS AN ATHELETE AND AS A COACH. I FADED SO FAR AT THAT POINT I

WAS GOING TO SELL WEIGHT EQUIPMENT I TRUCKED AROUND FROM NEW JERSEY TO

LAS VEGAS . I DIDNT HAVE IT IN ME TO CARE ANY MORE.

ABOUT A MONTH AGO I RECIEVED AN EMAIL ABOUT JOINT PAIN. I CLICKED THE

LINK AND IT WAS ABOUT DMSO AND ITS ABILITY TO HELP OTHER SUPPLEMENTS

BE ABSORBED INTO THE BODY MORE EFFICENTLY. THAT LINK LED TO ANOTHER

WITH THIS YOUNG MMA KID MIXING DMSO AND MSM POWDER WITH WATER AND

DRINKING IT. A FIRE WAS LIT. I STARTED RESEARCHING THE EFFECTS OF

INGESTING DMSO ORALLY. TO MY SUPRISE IT WAS POSSIBLE. I WANTED TO

AVOID ANOTHER SURGERY LIKE THE PLAUGE. SO I WAS DESPERATE TO TRY

ANYTHING THAT WOULD KEEP ME IN MY ORIGINAL PARTS.I RECIEVED ANOTHER

EMAIL ABOUT USING TYPE 1 COLLEGEN TO REPAIR DAMADGED LIGEMENTS AND

JOINTS. AT THAT PIONT SOMETHING CLICKED. I WOULD MIX THE TWO TOGETHER

AND JUST SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. WOULD IT HELP SPARE MY JOINTS FROM THE

KNIFE? I WASNT SURE BUT I WAS GONNA TRY IT.

I STARTED USING THE DMSO, TYPE 1 COLLEGEN WITH VITAMIN C AND STARTED

USING CREATIN. I WAS SICK OF FEELING BAD SO LIKE MOST BODY BUILDER/

WRESTLER I WENT ALL IN. I HAD NOTHING TO LOSE.

AFTER THE FIRST WEEK I FELT MENTALLY FREE. BY THAT I WAS NOT

EXPECTTING A MIRICLE BUT I WAS FEELING BETTER. BY THE END OF 3WEEKS I

WAS BACK UP TO 190LBS. I WAS STARTING TO FEEL STRONGER AND SECURE IN

MY TRAINING.

NO I AM NOT SUGGESTING ANYONE TRIES THIS OR THAT I WAS CURED OR

ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I AM JUST SAYING WHAT I WAS WILLING TO TRY FOR MY

PERSONAL HEALTH. DMSO IS NOT SOLD AS A MEDICINE AND I KNOW THAT. I

TOOK ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN I EXPERIMENTED WITH IT. I AM NOT

SAYING I AM CURED OF ANYTHING. I AM SAYING I CAN LIFT WEIGHTS AGAIN. I

DONT GO AS HEAVY. I DONT WANT TO PUSH MY LUCK. BENCH PRESS ,MILLITARY

PRESS AND DUMBBELL LATERAL RAISES. I GO ABOUT 70% OF WHAT I DID BEFORE

MY SHOULDERS STARTED BOTHERING ME. SQUATS AND DEADLIFTS I AM DOING 60%

WITH THE THE HIP IMPLANTS AND LUMBAR FUSION. I FEEL 100% BETTER. EVEN

THE MUSCLE SORNISS I USE TO GET AFTER LIFTING IS DOWN. I FEEL GOOD

AGAIN.

AT 43YRS. OLD I AM GETTING MY LIFE BACK ON TRACK. I STILL SET OFF

METAL DETECTORS IN THE AIRPORT. I CHEW ALOT MORE GUM THAN I USE TOO.

(LOL FOR THE GARLIC BREATH). BUT I FEEL GREAT. NO PAIN EQUALS NO

DOCTORS EQUALS NO SURGERIES FOR ME. THIS IS LIKE I SAID NOT A DO AS I

DID STORY. DO ONLY WHAT YOU FEEL SAFE DOING. I AM JUST SHARING HOW

DMSO HAS HELP ME IN ITS NONE TRADITIONAL USE. YOU SHOULD ALWAYS

BECAREFUL AND USE ANY PRODUCT WITH CARE AND SOUND JUDGEMENT.

I FELT IMPELLED TO SHARE MY DMSO STORY WITH GROUP. THIS SOLVENT HAS

CHANGED MY LIFE. DO WHATS RIGHT FOR YOU.

THANKS TO ALL FREE THINKERS

ALLA

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Hi ,

I'd already forwarded the all-caps version to a friend, but then sent

your kind revision to her afterward, saying " Here is an example of

what a great group this is! " Thanks a lot.

Be well,

Léna

Just in case there's anyone other than me that has a hard time reading

capitalised text, I've pasted Allas story again after processing it

through word.

B

_______________________________

Hi group.

My name is allan. I am a former wrestler and the former strenght coach

of richard steele's boxing club here in las vegas. I started using dmso

topically about a year ago. I suffer from a bone disorder called

avascular necrosis. I am 43yrs.old. I have had both of my hips replaced

and an l-4, l-5 lumbar fusion. To say i am a person that lives with pain

daily would be an understatement. While at the gym i meet an older lady

that told me about dmso. I looked up this wonder drug on the internet to

learn more about it. After studying the articles for a few weeks i

decided to give it a try. I was taking up to 8 10-500 hydrocodon a day.

So i figured what did i realy have to lose.

At first i thought i had psched my self into believing the pain in my

hips and lower back had died down some. To be honest i didnt know if it

was the meds or the dmso. I was using both at the time. About a week

went by before i decided to give the dmso a try without the meds. Wow!

Is the only word that came to mind as i used that garlicie, greasie

magic potion. Hey i didnt smell great but i didnt hurt either. Dmso made

it possible for me to train my clients and workout like there was

nothing wrong with me at all. I felt better than i had in years. I was

offically on the dmso band wagon.thats just the begining of my story.

About 6 months went by and i started having pains in my shoulders. The

avascular necrosis had started to deteriorate my shoulder joints. It

wasnt very painful. Kind of like having a toothache in your shoulder.

The doctor said eventually both my shoulders would be affected and would

have to be replaced. Needless to say i didnt take that news very well. I

fell into a depression. The thought of another surgery tore into my

soul. I would damn near be bionic. Two hips, titanium lower back and now

both my shoulders? I just couldnt deal with it.

A crisis of faith and another challange. I went from a strongman to a

cripple and still that wasnt the end. I let the darknes get me down i

couldnt get past the thought of what i was going to have to endure. At

42yrs old. I had what i felt was my fair share of pain, scars, drugs and

rehab. I went from a 207lb. Tough guy. To a 173lb. Depressed shell. I

used the dmso so i was not in physical pain. I suffered from self pitty

and insomnia. I gave up on everything and turned my pain into my beast

of burden.

At a low point i was putting an ad on craigslist to sell my boxing gear

and weight equipment. I wasnt gonna need them anymore. I was finished as

an athelete and as a coach. I faded so far at that point i was going to

sell weight equipment i trucked around from new jersey to las vegas . I

didnt have it in me to care any more.

About a month ago i recieved an email about joint pain. I clicked the

link and it was about dmso and its ability to help other supplements be

absorbed into the body more efficently. That link led to another with

this young mma kid mixing dmso and msm powder with water and drinking

it. A fire was lit. I started researching the effects of ingesting dmso

orally. To my suprise it was possible. I wanted to avoid another surgery

like the plauge. So i was desperate to try anything that would keep me

in my original parts.i recieved another email about using type 1

collegen to repair damadged ligements and joints. At that piont

something clicked. I would mix the two together and just see what would

happen. Would it help spare my joints from the knife? I wasnt sure but i

was gonna try it.

I started using the dmso, type 1 collegen with vitamin c and started

using creatin. I was sick of feeling bad so like most body builder/

wrestler i went all in. I had nothing to lose. After the first week i

felt mentally free. By that i was not expectting a miricle but i was

feeling better. By the end of 3weeks i was back up to 190lbs. I was

starting to feel stronger and secure in my training. No i am not

suggesting anyone tries this or that i was cured or anything like that.

I am just saying what i was willing to try for my personal health. Dmso

is not sold as a medicine and i know that. I took all that into

consideration when i experimented with it. I am not saying i am cured of

anything. I am saying i can lift weights again. I dont go as heavy. I

dont want to push my luck. Bench press ,millitary press and dumbbell

lateral raises. I go about 70% of what i did before my shoulders started

bothering me. Squats and deadlifts i am doing 60% with the the hip

implants and lumbar fusion. I feel 100% better. Even the muscle sorniss

i use to get after lifting is down. I feel good again.

At 43yrs. Old i am getting my life back on track. I still set off metal

detectors in the airport. I chew alot more gum than i use too. (lol for

the garlic breath). But i feel great. No pain equals no doctors equals

no surgeries for me. This is like i said not a do as i did story. Do

only what you feel safe doing. I am just sharing how dmso has help me in

its none traditional use. You should always becareful and use any

product with care and sound judgement.

I felt impelled to share my dmso story with group. This solvent has

changed my life. Do whats right for you.

Thanks to all free thinkers

Alla

>

> HI GROUP.

> MY NAME IS ALLAN. I AM A FORMER WRESTLER AND THE FORMER STRENGHT

COACH

> OF RICHARD STEELE'S BOXING CLUB HERE IN LAS VEGAS. I STARTED USING

> DMSO TOPICALLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO. I SUFFER FROM A BONE DISORDER CALLED

> AVASCULAR NECROSIS. I AM 43YRS.OLD. I HAVE HAD BOTH OF MY HIPS

> REPLACED AND AN L-4, L-5 LUMBAR FUSION. TO SAY I AM A PERSON THAT

> LIVES WITH PAIN DAILY WOULD BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT.

> WHILE AT THE GYM I MEET AN OLDER LADY THAT TOLD ME ABOUT DMSO. I

> LOOKED UP THIS WONDER DRUG ON THE INTERNET TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.

> AFTER STUDYING THE ARTICLES FOR A FEW WEEKS I DECIDED TO GIVE IT A

> TRY. I WAS TAKING UP TO 8 10-500 HYDROCODON A DAY. SO I FIGURED WHAT

> DID I REALY HAVE TO LOSE.

> AT FIRST I THOUGHT I HAD PSCHED MY SELF INTO BELIEVING THE PAIN IN MY

> HIPS AND LOWER BACK HAD DIED DOWN SOME. TO BE HONEST I DIDNT KNOW IF

> IT WAS THE MEDS OR THE DMSO. I WAS USING BOTH AT THE TIME. ABOUT A

> WEEK WENT BY BEFORE I DECIDED TO GIVE THE DMSO A TRY WITHOUT THE

MEDS.

> WOW! IS THE ONLY WORD THAT CAME TO MIND AS I USED THAT GARLICIE,

> GREASIE MAGIC POTION. HEY I DIDNT SMELL GREAT BUT I DIDNT HURT

EITHER.

> DMSO MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO TRAIN MY CLIENTS AND WORKOUT LIKE

> THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH ME AT ALL. I FELT BETTER THAN I HAD IN

> YEARS. I WAS OFFICALLY ON THE DMSO BAND WAGON.THATS JUST THE BEGINING

> OF MY STORY.

> ABOUT 6 MONTHS WENT BY AND I STARTED HAVING PAINS IN MY SHOULDERS.

THE

> AVASCULAR NECROSIS HAD STARTED TO DETERIORATE MY SHOULDER JOINTS. IT

> WASNT VERY PAINFUL. KIND OF LIKE HAVING A TOOTHACHE IN YOUR SHOULDER.

> THE DOCTOR SAID EVENTUALLY BOTH MY SHOULDERS WOULD BE AFFECTED AND

> WOULD HAVE TO BE REPLACED. NEEDLESS TO SAY I DIDNT TAKE THAT NEWS

VERY

> WELL. I FELL INTO A DEPRESSION. THE THOUGHT OF ANOTHER SURGERY TORE

> INTO MY SOUL. I WOULD DAMN NEAR BE BIONIC. TWO HIPS, TITANIUM LOWER

> BACK AND NOW BOTH MY SHOULDERS? I JUST COULDNT DEAL WITH IT.

> A CRISIS OF FAITH AND ANOTHER CHALLANGE. I WENT FROM A STRONGMAN TO A

> CRIPPLE AND STILL THAT WASNT THE END. I LET THE DARKNES GET ME DOWN I

> COULDNT GET PAST THE THOUGHT OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO ENDURE.

AT

> 42YRS OLD. I HAD WHAT I FELT WAS MY FAIR SHARE OF PAIN, SCARS, DRUGS

> AND REHAB. I WENT FROM A 207LB. TOUGH GUY. TO A 173LB. DEPRESSED

> SHELL. I USED THE DMSO SO I WAS NOT IN PHYSICAL PAIN. I SUFFERED FROM

> SELF PITTY AND INSOMNIA. I GAVE UP ON EVERYTHING AND TURNED MY PAIN

> INTO MY BEAST OF BURDEN.

> AT A LOW POINT I WAS PUTTING AN AD ON CRAIGSLIST TO SELL MY BOXING

> GEAR AND WEIGHT EQUIPMENT. I WASNT GONNA NEED THEM ANYMORE. I WAS

> FINISHED AS AN ATHELETE AND AS A COACH. I FADED SO FAR AT THAT

POINT I

> WAS GOING TO SELL WEIGHT EQUIPMENT I TRUCKED AROUND FROM NEW JERSEY

TO

> LAS VEGAS . I DIDNT HAVE IT IN ME TO CARE ANY MORE.

> ABOUT A MONTH AGO I RECIEVED AN EMAIL ABOUT JOINT PAIN. I CLICKED THE

> LINK AND IT WAS ABOUT DMSO AND ITS ABILITY TO HELP OTHER SUPPLEMENTS

> BE ABSORBED INTO THE BODY MORE EFFICENTLY. THAT LINK LED TO ANOTHER

> WITH THIS YOUNG MMA KID MIXING DMSO AND MSM POWDER WITH WATER AND

> DRINKING IT. A FIRE WAS LIT. I STARTED RESEARCHING THE EFFECTS OF

> INGESTING DMSO ORALLY. TO MY SUPRISE IT WAS POSSIBLE. I WANTED TO

> AVOID ANOTHER SURGERY LIKE THE PLAUGE. SO I WAS DESPERATE TO TRY

> ANYTHING THAT WOULD KEEP ME IN MY ORIGINAL PARTS.I RECIEVED ANOTHER

> EMAIL ABOUT USING TYPE 1 COLLEGEN TO REPAIR DAMADGED LIGEMENTS AND

> JOINTS. AT THAT PIONT SOMETHING CLICKED. I WOULD MIX THE TWO TOGETHER

> AND JUST SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. WOULD IT HELP SPARE MY JOINTS FROM

THE

> KNIFE? I WASNT SURE BUT I WAS GONNA TRY IT.

> I STARTED USING THE DMSO, TYPE 1 COLLEGEN WITH VITAMIN C AND STARTED

> USING CREATIN. I WAS SICK OF FEELING BAD SO LIKE MOST BODY BUILDER/

> WRESTLER I WENT ALL IN. I HAD NOTHING TO LOSE.

> AFTER THE FIRST WEEK I FELT MENTALLY FREE. BY THAT I WAS NOT

> EXPECTTING A MIRICLE BUT I WAS FEELING BETTER. BY THE END OF 3WEEKS I

> WAS BACK UP TO 190LBS. I WAS STARTING TO FEEL STRONGER AND SECURE IN

> MY TRAINING.

> NO I AM NOT SUGGESTING ANYONE TRIES THIS OR THAT I WAS CURED OR

> ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I AM JUST SAYING WHAT I WAS WILLING TO TRY FOR MY

> PERSONAL HEALTH. DMSO IS NOT SOLD AS A MEDICINE AND I KNOW THAT. I

> TOOK ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN I EXPERIMENTED WITH IT. I AM

NOT

> SAYING I AM CURED OF ANYTHING. I AM SAYING I CAN LIFT WEIGHTS

AGAIN. I

> DONT GO AS HEAVY. I DONT WANT TO PUSH MY LUCK. BENCH PRESS ,MILLITARY

> PRESS AND DUMBBELL LATERAL RAISES. I GO ABOUT 70% OF WHAT I DID

BEFORE

> MY SHOULDERS STARTED BOTHERING ME. SQUATS AND DEADLIFTS I AM DOING

60%

> WITH THE THE HIP IMPLANTS AND LUMBAR FUSION. I FEEL 100% BETTER. EVEN

> THE MUSCLE SORNISS I USE TO GET AFTER LIFTING IS DOWN. I FEEL GOOD

AGAIN.

> AT 43YRS. OLD I AM GETTING MY LIFE BACK ON TRACK. I STILL SET OFF

> METAL DETECTORS IN THE AIRPORT. I CHEW ALOT MORE GUM THAN I USE TOO.

> (LOL FOR THE GARLIC BREATH). BUT I FEEL GREAT. NO PAIN EQUALS NO

> DOCTORS EQUALS NO SURGERIES FOR ME. THIS IS LIKE I SAID NOT A DO AS I

> DID STORY. DO ONLY WHAT YOU FEEL SAFE DOING. I AM JUST SHARING HOW

> DMSO HAS HELP ME IN ITS NONE TRADITIONAL USE. YOU SHOULD ALWAYS

> BECAREFUL AND USE ANY PRODUCT WITH CARE AND SOUND JUDGEMENT.

> I FELT IMPELLED TO SHARE MY DMSO STORY WITH GROUP. THIS SOLVENT HAS

> CHANGED MY LIFE. DO WHATS RIGHT FOR YOU.

>

> THANKS TO ALL FREE THINKERS

> ALLA

>

>

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Cheers , this is much better.

B

NZ

> Just in case there's anyone other than me that has a hard time reading

> capitalised text, I've pasted Allas story again after processing it

> through word.

>

> B

> _______________________________

>

> Hi group.

>

> My name is allan. I am a former wrestler and the former strenght coach

> of richard steele's boxing club here in las vegas. I started using dmso

> topically about a year ago. I suffer from a bone disorder called

> avascular necrosis. I am 43yrs.old. I have had both of my hips replaced

> and an l-4, l-5 lumbar fusion. To say i am a person that lives with pain

> daily would be an understatement. While at the gym i meet an older lady

> that told me about dmso. I looked up this wonder drug on the internet to

> learn more about it. After studying the articles for a few weeks i

> decided to give it a try. I was taking up to 8 10-500 hydrocodon a day.

> So i figured what did i realy have to lose.

>

> At first i thought i had psched my self into believing the pain in my

> hips and lower back had died down some. To be honest i didnt know if it

> was the meds or the dmso. I was using both at the time. About a week

> went by before i decided to give the dmso a try without the meds. Wow!

> Is the only word that came to mind as i used that garlicie, greasie

> magic potion. Hey i didnt smell great but i didnt hurt either. Dmso made

> it possible for me to train my clients and workout like there was

> nothing wrong with me at all. I felt better than i had in years. I was

> offically on the dmso band wagon.thats just the begining of my story.

>

> About 6 months went by and i started having pains in my shoulders. The

> avascular necrosis had started to deteriorate my shoulder joints. It

> wasnt very painful. Kind of like having a toothache in your shoulder.

> The doctor said eventually both my shoulders would be affected and would

> have to be replaced. Needless to say i didnt take that news very well. I

> fell into a depression. The thought of another surgery tore into my

> soul. I would damn near be bionic. Two hips, titanium lower back and now

> both my shoulders? I just couldnt deal with it.

>

> A crisis of faith and another challange. I went from a strongman to a

> cripple and still that wasnt the end. I let the darknes get me down i

> couldnt get past the thought of what i was going to have to endure. At

> 42yrs old. I had what i felt was my fair share of pain, scars, drugs and

> rehab. I went from a 207lb. Tough guy. To a 173lb. Depressed shell. I

> used the dmso so i was not in physical pain. I suffered from self pitty

> and insomnia. I gave up on everything and turned my pain into my beast

> of burden.

>

> At a low point i was putting an ad on craigslist to sell my boxing gear

> and weight equipment. I wasnt gonna need them anymore. I was finished as

> an athelete and as a coach. I faded so far at that point i was going to

> sell weight equipment i trucked around from new jersey to las vegas . I

> didnt have it in me to care any more.

>

> About a month ago i recieved an email about joint pain. I clicked the

> link and it was about dmso and its ability to help other supplements be

> absorbed into the body more efficently. That link led to another with

> this young mma kid mixing dmso and msm powder with water and drinking

> it. A fire was lit. I started researching the effects of ingesting dmso

> orally. To my suprise it was possible. I wanted to avoid another surgery

> like the plauge. So i was desperate to try anything that would keep me

> in my original parts.i recieved another email about using type 1

> collegen to repair damadged ligements and joints. At that piont

> something clicked. I would mix the two together and just see what would

> happen. Would it help spare my joints from the knife? I wasnt sure but i

> was gonna try it.

>

> I started using the dmso, type 1 collegen with vitamin c and started

> using creatin. I was sick of feeling bad so like most body builder/

> wrestler i went all in. I had nothing to lose. After the first week i

> felt mentally free. By that i was not expectting a miricle but i was

> feeling better. By the end of 3weeks i was back up to 190lbs. I was

> starting to feel stronger and secure in my training. No i am not

> suggesting anyone tries this or that i was cured or anything like that.

> I am just saying what i was willing to try for my personal health. Dmso

> is not sold as a medicine and i know that. I took all that into

> consideration when i experimented with it. I am not saying i am cured of

> anything. I am saying i can lift weights again. I dont go as heavy. I

> dont want to push my luck. Bench press ,millitary press and dumbbell

> lateral raises. I go about 70% of what i did before my shoulders started

> bothering me. Squats and deadlifts i am doing 60% with the the hip

> implants and lumbar fusion. I feel 100% better. Even the muscle sorniss

> i use to get after lifting is down. I feel good again.

>

> At 43yrs. Old i am getting my life back on track. I still set off metal

> detectors in the airport. I chew alot more gum than i use too. (lol for

> the garlic breath). But i feel great. No pain equals no doctors equals

> no surgeries for me. This is like i said not a do as i did story. Do

> only what you feel safe doing. I am just sharing how dmso has help me in

> its none traditional use. You should always becareful and use any

> product with care and sound judgement.

>

> I felt impelled to share my dmso story with group. This solvent has

> changed my life. Do whats right for you.

>

> Thanks to all free thinkers

>

> Alla

>

>

> >

> > HI GROUP.

> > MY NAME IS ALLAN. I AM A FORMER WRESTLER AND THE FORMER STRENGHT COACH

> > OF RICHARD STEELE'S BOXING CLUB HERE IN LAS VEGAS. I STARTED USING

> > DMSO TOPICALLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO. I SUFFER FROM A BONE DISORDER CALLED

> > AVASCULAR NECROSIS. I AM 43YRS.OLD. I HAVE HAD BOTH OF MY HIPS

> > REPLACED AND AN L-4, L-5 LUMBAR FUSION. TO SAY I AM A PERSON THAT

> > LIVES WITH PAIN DAILY WOULD BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT.

> > WHILE AT THE GYM I MEET AN OLDER LADY THAT TOLD ME ABOUT DMSO. I

> > LOOKED UP THIS WONDER DRUG ON THE INTERNET TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.

> > AFTER STUDYING THE ARTICLES FOR A FEW WEEKS I DECIDED TO GIVE IT A

> > TRY. I WAS TAKING UP TO 8 10-500 HYDROCODON A DAY. SO I FIGURED WHAT

> > DID I REALY HAVE TO LOSE.

> > AT FIRST I THOUGHT I HAD PSCHED MY SELF INTO BELIEVING THE PAIN IN MY

> > HIPS AND LOWER BACK HAD DIED DOWN SOME. TO BE HONEST I DIDNT KNOW IF

> > IT WAS THE MEDS OR THE DMSO. I WAS USING BOTH AT THE TIME. ABOUT A

> > WEEK WENT BY BEFORE I DECIDED TO GIVE THE DMSO A TRY WITHOUT THE MEDS.

> > WOW! IS THE ONLY WORD THAT CAME TO MIND AS I USED THAT GARLICIE,

> > GREASIE MAGIC POTION. HEY I DIDNT SMELL GREAT BUT I DIDNT HURT EITHER.

> > DMSO MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO TRAIN MY CLIENTS AND WORKOUT LIKE

> > THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH ME AT ALL. I FELT BETTER THAN I HAD IN

> > YEARS. I WAS OFFICALLY ON THE DMSO BAND WAGON.THATS JUST THE BEGINING

> > OF MY STORY.

> > ABOUT 6 MONTHS WENT BY AND I STARTED HAVING PAINS IN MY SHOULDERS. THE

> > AVASCULAR NECROSIS HAD STARTED TO DETERIORATE MY SHOULDER JOINTS. IT

> > WASNT VERY PAINFUL. KIND OF LIKE HAVING A TOOTHACHE IN YOUR SHOULDER.

> > THE DOCTOR SAID EVENTUALLY BOTH MY SHOULDERS WOULD BE AFFECTED AND

> > WOULD HAVE TO BE REPLACED. NEEDLESS TO SAY I DIDNT TAKE THAT NEWS VERY

> > WELL. I FELL INTO A DEPRESSION. THE THOUGHT OF ANOTHER SURGERY TORE

> > INTO MY SOUL. I WOULD DAMN NEAR BE BIONIC. TWO HIPS, TITANIUM LOWER

> > BACK AND NOW BOTH MY SHOULDERS? I JUST COULDNT DEAL WITH IT.

> > A CRISIS OF FAITH AND ANOTHER CHALLANGE. I WENT FROM A STRONGMAN TO A

> > CRIPPLE AND STILL THAT WASNT THE END. I LET THE DARKNES GET ME DOWN I

> > COULDNT GET PAST THE THOUGHT OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO ENDURE. AT

> > 42YRS OLD. I HAD WHAT I FELT WAS MY FAIR SHARE OF PAIN, SCARS, DRUGS

> > AND REHAB. I WENT FROM A 207LB. TOUGH GUY. TO A 173LB. DEPRESSED

> > SHELL. I USED THE DMSO SO I WAS NOT IN PHYSICAL PAIN. I SUFFERED FROM

> > SELF PITTY AND INSOMNIA. I GAVE UP ON EVERYTHING AND TURNED MY PAIN

> > INTO MY BEAST OF BURDEN.

> > AT A LOW POINT I WAS PUTTING AN AD ON CRAIGSLIST TO SELL MY BOXING

> > GEAR AND WEIGHT EQUIPMENT. I WASNT GONNA NEED THEM ANYMORE. I WAS

> > FINISHED AS AN ATHELETE AND AS A COACH. I FADED SO FAR AT THAT POINT I

> > WAS GOING TO SELL WEIGHT EQUIPMENT I TRUCKED AROUND FROM NEW JERSEY TO

> > LAS VEGAS . I DIDNT HAVE IT IN ME TO CARE ANY MORE.

> > ABOUT A MONTH AGO I RECIEVED AN EMAIL ABOUT JOINT PAIN. I CLICKED THE

> > LINK AND IT WAS ABOUT DMSO AND ITS ABILITY TO HELP OTHER SUPPLEMENTS

> > BE ABSORBED INTO THE BODY MORE EFFICENTLY. THAT LINK LED TO ANOTHER

> > WITH THIS YOUNG MMA KID MIXING DMSO AND MSM POWDER WITH WATER AND

> > DRINKING IT. A FIRE WAS LIT. I STARTED RESEARCHING THE EFFECTS OF

> > INGESTING DMSO ORALLY. TO MY SUPRISE IT WAS POSSIBLE. I WANTED TO

> > AVOID ANOTHER SURGERY LIKE THE PLAUGE. SO I WAS DESPERATE TO TRY

> > ANYTHING THAT WOULD KEEP ME IN MY ORIGINAL PARTS.I RECIEVED ANOTHER

> > EMAIL ABOUT USING TYPE 1 COLLEGEN TO REPAIR DAMADGED LIGEMENTS AND

> > JOINTS. AT THAT PIONT SOMETHING CLICKED. I WOULD MIX THE TWO TOGETHER

> > AND JUST SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. WOULD IT HELP SPARE MY JOINTS FROM THE

> > KNIFE? I WASNT SURE BUT I WAS GONNA TRY IT.

> > I STARTED USING THE DMSO, TYPE 1 COLLEGEN WITH VITAMIN C AND STARTED

> > USING CREATIN. I WAS SICK OF FEELING BAD SO LIKE MOST BODY BUILDER/

> > WRESTLER I WENT ALL IN. I HAD NOTHING TO LOSE.

> > AFTER THE FIRST WEEK I FELT MENTALLY FREE. BY THAT I WAS NOT

> > EXPECTTING A MIRICLE BUT I WAS FEELING BETTER. BY THE END OF 3WEEKS I

> > WAS BACK UP TO 190LBS. I WAS STARTING TO FEEL STRONGER AND SECURE IN

> > MY TRAINING.

> > NO I AM NOT SUGGESTING ANYONE TRIES THIS OR THAT I WAS CURED OR

> > ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I AM JUST SAYING WHAT I WAS WILLING TO TRY FOR MY

> > PERSONAL HEALTH. DMSO IS NOT SOLD AS A MEDICINE AND I KNOW THAT. I

> > TOOK ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN I EXPERIMENTED WITH IT. I AM NOT

> > SAYING I AM CURED OF ANYTHING. I AM SAYING I CAN LIFT WEIGHTS AGAIN. I

> > DONT GO AS HEAVY. I DONT WANT TO PUSH MY LUCK. BENCH PRESS ,MILLITARY

> > PRESS AND DUMBBELL LATERAL RAISES. I GO ABOUT 70% OF WHAT I DID BEFORE

> > MY SHOULDERS STARTED BOTHERING ME. SQUATS AND DEADLIFTS I AM DOING 60%

> > WITH THE THE HIP IMPLANTS AND LUMBAR FUSION. I FEEL 100% BETTER. EVEN

> > THE MUSCLE SORNISS I USE TO GET AFTER LIFTING IS DOWN. I FEEL GOOD AGAIN.

> > AT 43YRS. OLD I AM GETTING MY LIFE BACK ON TRACK. I STILL SET OFF

> > METAL DETECTORS IN THE AIRPORT. I CHEW ALOT MORE GUM THAN I USE TOO.

> > (LOL FOR THE GARLIC BREATH). BUT I FEEL GREAT. NO PAIN EQUALS NO

> > DOCTORS EQUALS NO SURGERIES FOR ME. THIS IS LIKE I SAID NOT A DO AS I

> > DID STORY. DO ONLY WHAT YOU FEEL SAFE DOING. I AM JUST SHARING HOW

> > DMSO HAS HELP ME IN ITS NONE TRADITIONAL USE. YOU SHOULD ALWAYS

> > BECAREFUL AND USE ANY PRODUCT WITH CARE AND SOUND JUDGEMENT.

> > I FELT IMPELLED TO SHARE MY DMSO STORY WITH GROUP. THIS SOLVENT HAS

> > CHANGED MY LIFE. DO WHATS RIGHT FOR YOU.

> >

> > THANKS TO ALL FREE THINKERS

> > ALLA

> >

> >

>

>

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