Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Kathy, after reading this post I went to East Parks site and ordered it all. I have suffered for 10 years from psoriasis and toenail fungus and I have tried EVERYTHING on the market! It's funny how I have been suffering from this since I was implanted!!! But now I have something new to try. One question, the website did not give a suggested dose for the olive oil caps... what do you recommend? Do you think I can take this along with the Garden of Life fungal defense? (My husband is gonna kill me when he finds out how much I spent on remedies today!) Thanks! The power of Thought, the magic of the Mind!- Lord Byron -- Re: rogene, kenda, toni - thanks!! ShariI think you are really missing the boat by not using oil of oregano and olive leaf extract on a regular basis. These are powerful and work well with the body. NOt only that they kill more than just yeast unlike diflucan AND they are not known to cause liver damage. My husband cleared up a very stubborn fungal infection in his nails by taking the oil of oregano. I am using the EAst Park Research olive leaf extract soap to bathe and following up with the lotion and it is even making my keratosis on my skin reduce in size. I fully expect them to clear up. The key is the dosage. They must be used in sufficient strength and taken regularly. In addition, garlic, onions and chives will help complement these routines. I am now putting garlic in my flax seed oil and cottage cheese mixture and using it liberally in cooking. My tongue is looking great whereas it had a coating on it before. I recommend East Park research olive leaf extract because I think it is one of the best out there and I can vouch for its effectiveness. Best of all, you don't have to rely on your doctor to order you a prescription. I love being able to decide for myself what I will take and when I will take it and how much. Good luck with your problem. Also, if you haven't tried the liver cleanse, I would highly recommend or at least the lemon/olive oil drink which will strengthen your immune system. You should also take high dose powdered vitamin C. Your immune system is certainly compromised at present with these infections. Also, echineshia(sure I misspelled it) could be of benefit while suffering the sinus problems.love, kathy telling them that.... Nobody will listen. They keep cramming > antibiotics and steroids at me and I said "they didn't work last time, why would they > work now???" it is sooooo very frustrating. Also- it would be helpful if I > could see an infectious disease spec but there are only three around here and > none will see me. (implant thing). It makes me soooo mad - I never had these > problems until after explant and have had them non-stop since.... that should > put some lightbulbs over their heads but it doesn't. Let's see.... explant in > April.... by July had massive sinus inf, was treated w/ 5 different oral > antibiotics, IV's and shots for 4 months..... never touched it so they did surgery > and it was so bad they had to pull out and do surgery again 3 weeks later. > within 2 months after the second surgery it started again. I have actually > been pretty lucky as about 6 months after that it seemed to stop and now it is > back with a vengeance going on months now - this is why I felt so bad at the > protest I think... I still wanted to go regardless but I am just worn to a > frazzle. I think I will at least try to get them to call in some antifungals for > yeast and hopefully they will attack the inf too. I am so frustrated and hate > HMO'S!!!! I shouldn't complain as I am very lucky to have insurance still... > > > anyways - thanks to everyone for the kinds words and for the advice.> > love> shariOpinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Hi kristen The dosage on the d'lenolate is 2 a day to start. Then increase to four if that doesn't bother you. YOu can take more if you can tolerate it as time goes on. Are you taking Fungal Defense right now? For how long? Are you sure that isn't why you are feeling worse? Fungal defense sounds pretty strong to me and it should be capable of producing a nasty herx ( worsening of symptoms due to pathogen die off). I haven't tried Fungal Defense although I have taken Primal defense for several years. You can take D'lenolate with the Fungal defense but you are increasing your chances of a herx. They both contain olive leaf extract. D'lenolate is touted by several physcicans as being a particularly good one. I have found it to be quite strong. In fact strong enough that I am using just the soap and lotion at present and working up to the capsules again. Just one capsule has been enough to put me in a bad herx. They say using the capsule, the soap and the lotion is the most effective way. I have also been using the oil of oregano which is a liquid. It is much easier to control dosages than with fungal defense which includes too many things for me to tolerate. I started out with a couple of drops in some water and increased. My husband found that ten drops a day over 2 months got rid of the fungal nail infection he had. You can also use oil of oregano topically on the skin. (but not on sensitive membranes such as inside of nose, genitals, etc.) If you are already taking the Fungal defense and it caused a herxheimer, I wouldn't take the products together. When you experience a herx, you should either reduce dosage or stop a few days and then restart at a lower dose. Also, if you haven't been explanted yet, detoxing and killing off yeast doesn't work very well. I think it is because the implants are so overwhelming to our immune systems. I would hesitate to do serious detox before explanting. In fact if your explant is coming up soon, I would concentrate more on drinking alot of pure water, eating a very healthy diet, and getting some simple exercise and fresh air and trying to destress. Save the serious detox until after you have been explanted. I think you will find that the explant will be a giant boost to your health, and then it will be easier to tolerate detoxing. Everyone is truly different. Some people will almost never experience a herx or react in a negative way to detoxification. Others will herx for a day or so. Still others (myself included) can have the herx from hell and the herx that continues far longer than you ever thought possible. So to be on the safe side, stay away from strenous detoxing before surgery. love, kathy > Kathy, after reading this post I went to East Parks site and ordered it all. > I have suffered for 10 years from psoriasis and toenail fungus and I have > tried EVERYTHING on the market! It's funny how I have been suffering from > this since I was implanted!!! But now I have something new to try. One > question, the website did not give a suggested dose for the olive oil caps.. > what do you recommend? Do you think I can take this along with the Garden > of Life fungal defense? (My husband is gonna kill me when he finds out how > much I spent on remedies today!) > > Thanks! > > > The power of Thought, the magic of the Mind! > - Lord Byron > > -- Re: rogene, kenda, toni - thanks!! > > > > Shari > I think you are really missing the boat by not using oil of oregano > and olive leaf extract on a regular basis. These are powerful and > work well with the body. NOt only that they kill more than just > yeast unlike diflucan AND they are not known to cause liver damage. > My husband cleared up a very stubborn fungal infection in his nails > by taking the oil of oregano. I am using the EAst Park Research > olive leaf extract soap to bathe and following up with the lotion > and it is even making my keratosis on my skin reduce in size. I > fully expect them to clear up. The key is the dosage. They must be > used in sufficient strength and taken regularly. In addition, > garlic, onions and chives will help complement these routines. I am > now putting garlic in my flax seed oil and cottage cheese mixture > and using it liberally in cooking. My tongue is looking great > whereas it had a coating on it before. I recommend East Park > research olive leaf extract because I think it is one of the best > out there and I can vouch for its effectiveness. > Best of all, you don't have to rely on your doctor to order you a > prescription. I love being able to decide for myself what I will > take and when I will take it and how much. Good luck with your > problem. Also, if you haven't tried the liver cleanse, I would > highly recommend or at least the lemon/olive oil drink which will > strengthen your immune system. You should also take high dose > powdered vitamin C. Your immune system is certainly compromised at > present with these infections. Also, echineshia(sure I misspelled > it) could be of benefit while suffering the sinus problems. > love, kathy > > > > > > > > telling them that.... Nobody will listen. They keep cramming > > antibiotics and steroids at me and I said " they didn't work last > time, why would they > > work now??? " it is sooooo very frustrating. Also- it would be > helpful if I > > could see an infectious disease spec but there are only three > around here and > > none will see me. (implant thing). It makes me soooo mad - I > never had these > > problems until after explant and have had them non-stop since.... > that should > > put some lightbulbs over their heads but it doesn't. Let's > see.... explant in > > April.... by July had massive sinus inf, was treated w/ 5 > different oral > > antibiotics, IV's and shots for 4 months..... never touched it so > they did surgery > > and it was so bad they had to pull out and do surgery again 3 > weeks later. > > within 2 months after the second surgery it started again. I have > actually > > been pretty lucky as about 6 months after that it seemed to stop > and now it is > > back with a vengeance going on months now - this is why I felt so > bad at the > > protest I think... I still wanted to go regardless but I am just > worn to a > > frazzle. I think I will at least try to get them to call in some > antifungals for > > yeast and hopefully they will attack the inf too. I am so > frustrated and hate > > HMO'S!!!! I shouldn't complain as I am very lucky to have > insurance still... > > > > > > anyways - thanks to everyone for the kinds words and for the > advice. > > > > love > > shari > > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed > health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Thanks Kathy. I am not taking anything until after the surgery, I just want to have everything ready. -- Re: rogene, kenda, toni - thanks!!> > > > Shari> I think you are really missing the boat by not using oil of oregano > and olive leaf extract on a regular basis. These are powerful and > work well with the body. NOt only that they kill more than just > yeast unlike diflucan AND they are not known to cause liver damage. > My husband cleared up a very stubborn fungal infection in his nails > by taking the oil of oregano. I am using the EAst Park Research > olive leaf extract soap to bathe and following up with the lotion > and it is even making my keratosis on my skin reduce in size. I > fully expect them to clear up. The key is the dosage. They must be > used in sufficient strength and taken regularly. In addition, > garlic, onions and chives will help complement these routines. I am > now putting garlic in my flax seed oil and cottage cheese mixture > and using it liberally in cooking. My tongue is looking great > whereas it had a coating on it before. I recommend East Park > research olive leaf extract because I think it is one of the best > out there and I can vouch for its effectiveness. > Best of all, you don't have to rely on your doctor to order you a > prescription. I love being able to decide for myself what I will > take and when I will take it and how much. Good luck with your > problem. Also, if you haven't tried the liver cleanse, I would > highly recommend or at least the lemon/olive oil drink which will > strengthen your immune system. You should also take high dose > powdered vitamin C. Your immune system is certainly compromised at > present with these infections. Also, echineshia(sure I misspelled > it) could be of benefit while suffering the sinus problems.> love, kathy > > > > > > > > telling them that.... Nobody will listen. They keep cramming > > antibiotics and steroids at me and I said "they didn't work last > time, why would they > > work now???" it is sooooo very frustrating. Also- it would be > helpful if I > > could see an infectious disease spec but there are only three > around here and > > none will see me. (implant thing). It makes me soooo mad - I > never had these > > problems until after explant and have had them non-stop since.... > that should > > put some lightbulbs over their heads but it doesn't. Let's > see.... explant in > > April.... by July had massive sinus inf, was treated w/ 5 > different oral > > antibiotics, IV's and shots for 4 months..... never touched it so > they did surgery > > and it was so bad they had to pull out and do surgery again 3 > weeks later. > > within 2 months after the second surgery it started again. I have > actually > > been pretty lucky as about 6 months after that it seemed to stop > and now it is > > back with a vengeance going on months now - this is why I felt so > bad at the > > protest I think... I still wanted to go regardless but I am just > worn to a > > frazzle. I think I will at least try to get them to call in some > antifungals for > > yeast and hopefully they will attack the inf too. I am so > frustrated and hate > > HMO'S!!!! I shouldn't complain as I am very lucky to have > insurance still... > > > > > > anyways - thanks to everyone for the kinds words and for the > advice.> > > > love> > shari> > > > > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a> happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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