Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Apr 30 2001, 1:30 am show options Newsgroups: sci.environment From: i...@... (Ilena Rose) - Find messages by this author Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 05:30:07 GMT Local: Mon,Apr 30 2001 1:30 am Subject: Dirty Doctor Dean Edell spreading Corporate Lies & Propaganda again! Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse EXCERPT: " I'm sure that multiple-chemical sensitivity is a psychosomatic illness. I'm absolutely sure that breast implant disease is psychosomatic. I am close to sure now that Gulf War Syndrome and TMJ are also psychosomatic. " http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/deanFullTexttopics.cfm?I D=49513 & s... Is Fibromyalgia A Pain Messenger Problem? March 08, 2001 Lila: Hi, I've heard you say on many shows that problems like fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome are not medical problems. I wondered if you had considered it as a pain messenger or hormonal problem? This is what several doctors have told me, including my rheumatologist, who is a skeptic and conservative. Dr. Dean: Now let's make sure that we have the right diseases. There are a bunch of diseases that are similar and people often get them mixed up. But fibromyalgia is the one I had been most supportive of through the years. I'm fairly suspicious that chronic fatigue syndrome is really a psychosomatic illness. I'm sure that multiple-chemical sensitivity is a psychosomatic illness. I'm absolutely sure that breast implant disease is psychosomatic. I am close to sure now that Gulf War Syndrome and TMJ are also psychosomatic. That leaves poor old fibromyalgia out there. Now fibromyalgia is puzzling. Many people who do not have the disease cannot know that the only thing that separates fibromyalgia from a psychosomatic disease is the little tender parts in the back. There's 12 little spots that you push on the patient's back. If they are very tender in these different spots, or 8 out of 12, then you're considered to have fibromyalgia. Well, this diagnosis is pretty vague. A lot of us have tender spots, and how do you push, and how hard should you push, and what other test can you use to confirm it? And even so, if a person's very sensitive, that does indeed imply what you said --that there may be a hypersensitivity of the pain fibers. But ultimately, we need to have the factual and objective information to be able to pass on to patients, so we can move forward with diagnosis and treatment. You know, it's a very tough category because people get really mad at you when you don't acknowledge their illness even though it¹s in their heads. Take something like multiple chemical sensitivity. These people get outraged when you tell them it's all in their heads (and we've proven it over, and over, and over it's all in their heads) but they still don't want to believe it. They want to be sick. They almost enjoy being the center of attention. There's something that is psychological that feeds on this. A lot of it has to do with something we're now learning and calling the " no-cebo " affect. For example, if you have a breast implant, you might hear stuff like you should have this pain, you should have this fatigue, you should have this and this and thisŠ.and before you know it people start feeling these symptoms. Multiple chemical sensitivity is an example one of those diseases. We just kept telling people that if you live in a new house and you have gases coming out of your carpet, you should get tired and your joints should ache and your sex life should go into the toilet. And sooner or later, people started responding. I think some doctors feed this effect too. They open up clinics for these diseases, because they¹re often misguided. They often want to care and want to help, but what they wind up doing is almost creating the illness in patients they treat. I get calls all the time from people. ³I went to the doctor, I was a little bit tired, and the doctor said I had chronic fatigue syndrome.² Well, you can't tell that to people because fatigue is the most common symptom there is in medicine. There are a thousand diseases that cause fatigue and you can't label someone until you eliminate all the possible causes of fatigue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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