Guest guest Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Dear Debbie, You said: <<I've tried the Aconite homeopathic pellets for five days now. I've taken them several times a day for panic/anxiety attacks and made up the water bottle like you said. So far it hasn't helped. Do I just keep on with it? Do I need more time? Also, I noticed someone posted with the obsessive thoughts. I have them too; to the point they make me panic. I wrote in my first big story that I went (unknowingly) cold turkey off of Zoloft and Klonopin in 2001 and 4 months into severe withdrawal had my first full-blown panick attack and have had them ever since. Even going back on the medication didn't stop them. Any disturbing thought that pops into my mind, however real or imagined starts the stomach churning etc. Yesterday, my husband said he may lose his job. That didn't help the panic, of course, yet the obsessive thoughts started and so did panic.>> ** Is the panic mostly tied into the obsessive thoughts? If so, it is the obsessibe thoughts we should be going after. Aconite is most effective in sudden onset panic seemingly out of nowhere. Let me know which of these fits your experiences most closely. You said: << I tried to discuss (again) with my husband what was happening to me and that I was panicking. He got real angry with me and told me I had to STOP this panic! He said I've been doing this for 2 1/2 years and I had to GET OVER IT! How does a person just stop this? Isn't it obvious I've been trying? Is this panic really, really due to the drugs or something that just " happened " to me and I'll never get over?>> ** If it didn't exist prior, you can blame it on the drugs. These drugs cause many changes to your neurochemistry including changes to hormones and your adrenal system. You said: << I'm very, very frightened about this. I thought for awhile I might be a little better, but I guess not. I just find it hard to believe a drug could possibly destroy any inner peace of mind that a person is trying to achieve. If it truly is the drug(s), then I'm presuming that someday, somehow the panic will subside. Could this be true? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated>> ** In my experience, the body has to be fortified in order to heal from the damage caused by the drugs. This takes time. What else are you taking right now? Don't worry; there are ways to at least take the edge off this in the short term ,and in the long term eliminate most or all of it. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Dear Debbie, Immediately after I responded to you a post came in that explains in detail what tends to happen after people have taken most psychotropic drugs. This article does not come from this topic but explains what is going on with your chemistry. It saves me the time of explaining. The article states: When we are in stressful situations, our bodies make hormones such as cortisol http://stress.about.com/cs/cortisol/a/aa012901.htm that help us take action. " If we have some sort of challenge in life, these stress hormones actually help us produce energy that we can use, and energy that's available immediately, " explains Cavigelli. " So, if you're in a challenging situation, for example, the stress hormones help you respond to that challenge by giving you the energy necessary. " Cortisol: The " Stress Hormone " This critical hormone is released in response to stress. The hormone cortisol, which is released in the body during stressed or agitated states, has gained widespread attention as the so-called " stress hormone. " But this hormone is more than a simple marker of stress levels- it is necessary for the functioning of almost every part of the body. Excesses or deficiencies of this crucial hormone are also lead to various physical symptoms and disease states. Background Cortisol is a steroid hormone made in the adrenal glands, which are small glands adjacent to the kidneys. Among its important functions in the body include roles in the regulation of blood pressure and cardiovascular function as well as regulation of the body's use of proteins, carbohydrates, and fats. Cortisol secretion increases in response to any stress in the body, whether physical (such as illness, trauma, surgery, or temperature extremes) or psychological. When cortisol is secreted, it causes a breakdown of muscle protein, leading to release of amino acids (the " building blocks " of protein) into the bloodstream. These amino acids are then used by the liver to synthesize glucose for energy, in a process called gluconeogenesis. This process raises the blood sugar level so the brain will have more glucose for energy. At the same time the other tissues of the body decrease their use of glucose as fuel. Cortisol also leads to the release of so-called fatty acids, an energy source from fat cells, for use by the muscles. Taken together, these energy-directing processes prepare the individual to deal with stressors and insure that the brain receives adequate energy sources. The body possesses an elaborate feedback system for controlling cortisol secretion and regulating the amount of cortisol in the bloodstream. The pituitary gland, a small gland at the base of the brain, makes and secretes a hormone known as adrenocorticotrophin, or ACTH. Secretion of ACTH signals the adrenal glands to increase cortisol production and secretion. The pituitary, in turn, receives signals from the hypothalamus of the brain in the form of the hormone CRH, or corticotropin-releasing hormone, which signals the pituitary to release ACTH. Almost immediately after a stressful event, the levels of the regulatory hormones ACTH and CRH increase, causing an immediate rise in cortisol levels. When cortisol is present in adequate (or excess) amounts, a negative feedback system operates on the pituitary gland and hypothalamus which alerts these areas to reduce the output of ACTH and CRH, respectively, in order to reduce cortisol secretion when adequate levels are present. ============================================= ** Antidepressant drugs damage the pituitary and hypothalamus. These then cannot respond as they should at various times. This leads to the kinds of experiences you are having. In some cases, it is the misfiring of neurotransmitters that precipitates the rise in cortisol. In others, it is actual stress itself . I would address each of these differently. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 Dear Debbie, I read your post and account of what happened. I'd like to try to get to the root of this and get it taken care of. I appreciate your patience with this process. I re-read it again tonight and now will 'sit with it' overnight. This helps me to really zone in on the wholistic view of what happened and is happening. I will be in touch tomorrow. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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