Re: Antibodies now--should I go ahead with Surgery?

[Guest guest]

Sandy,

I can understand your reluctance to give up your

implants . . .

You can always postpone the surgery . . . but you

could also get much sicker. You're the only one who

can make that decision.

Thyroid malfunction seems to be one of the leading

problems after implants. What do you feel in your

heart? Do you think you implants have caused your

antibodies to increase? . . . If not, what is?

This is what I found in a websearch for Cytomel. It

doesn't sound like something I would want to take

unsupervised. - Rogene

" This product usually comes in bottles of 100 tablets

at 25 mcgs each. It is available in a variety of doses

though ranging from 5 - 100 mcgs. per tablet. Cytomel

is a synthetic thyroid hormone (Type T-3). There are

two main types of synthetic thyroid hormones that are

available being this and Synthroid (T-4). This product

is regarded as the stronger of the two products (it is

4-5 times stronger than Synthroid). This product works

by increasing the synthesis of protein, carbohydrates,

and fats as well as RNA in the body thereby increasing

your BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate). Bodybuilders love

this product for many reasons. This product is an

excellent fat burner since your metabolism is greatly

increased while being on it. You can afford to be a

little sloppier on pre-contest dieting since it will

still burn fat when you are taking in a lot of

calories since your metabolism is going haywire. Step

over Ripped Fuel, E/C/A stack, Thermodrine. When taken

with Clenbuterol, this is the single best fat-burning

combination that is available today (with the possible

exception of DNP). It also helps to make steroids more

effective since it is such a good aid for protein

synthesis. Most people need to be careful to start

with a low dosage, about 25 mcgs. per day and increase

by about one tab or 25 mcgs. per day every 5-6 days.

Make sure that you don't go over 100 mcgs. per day at

the very most. On days that you take muliple tabs,

divide the tabs evenly across the day (i.e. 100 mcgs.

would be 4 doses of 25 mcgs. apiece spread evenly

across the day.) You also need to make sure that you

cycle down off this product as well to keep the

thyroid functioning properly as well. Don't take for

more than 5 weeks at a time as well. After doing a

cycle of this drug, make sure you go at least 8 weeks

before doing it again as to allow normal thyroid

functioning to return. "

[Guest guest]

Wow, well I am taking a very low dose of 5mcg, I never increased it.

I don't know what finally caused my TSH to normalize, it is now .10

which I wonder if it is too low? A naturopathic doc told me that once

my thyroid stabilizes, my antibodies would go down. However, I really

would like to go completely off the thyroid meds, however I don't know

if that is a possibility either. I suppose I am just getting a bit

frantic and nervous, last minute jitters, and am looking for excuses.

Dr. M said to see if my thyroid improves post explant and if not, I

can always re-implant should I hate how I look. I think I should just

go ahead with it. My husband tells me he doesn't think I should have

surgery if it's not causing me any problems, but I won't know if this

is the cause of my problems until I take them out and see what happens

over the months. S.

> Sandy,

>

> I can understand your reluctance to give up your

> implants . . .

>

> You can always postpone the surgery . . . but you

> could also get much sicker. You're the only one who

> can make that decision.

>

> Thyroid malfunction seems to be one of the leading

> problems after implants. What do you feel in your

> heart? Do you think you implants have caused your

> antibodies to increase? . . . If not, what is?

>

> This is what I found in a websearch for Cytomel. It

> doesn't sound like something I would want to take

> unsupervised. - Rogene

>

> " This product usually comes in bottles of 100 tablets

> at 25 mcgs each. It is available in a variety of doses

> though ranging from 5 - 100 mcgs. per tablet. Cytomel

> is a synthetic thyroid hormone (Type T-3). There are

> two main types of synthetic thyroid hormones that are

> available being this and Synthroid (T-4). This product

> is regarded as the stronger of the two products (it is

> 4-5 times stronger than Synthroid). This product works

> by increasing the synthesis of protein, carbohydrates,

> and fats as well as RNA in the body thereby increasing

> your BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate). Bodybuilders love

> this product for many reasons. This product is an

> excellent fat burner since your metabolism is greatly

> increased while being on it. You can afford to be a

> little sloppier on pre-contest dieting since it will

> still burn fat when you are taking in a lot of

> calories since your metabolism is going haywire. Step

> over Ripped Fuel, E/C/A stack, Thermodrine. When taken

> with Clenbuterol, this is the single best fat-burning

> combination that is available today (with the possible

> exception of DNP). It also helps to make steroids more

> effective since it is such a good aid for protein

> synthesis. Most people need to be careful to start

> with a low dosage, about 25 mcgs. per day and increase

> by about one tab or 25 mcgs. per day every 5-6 days.

> Make sure that you don't go over 100 mcgs. per day at

> the very most. On days that you take muliple tabs,

> divide the tabs evenly across the day (i.e. 100 mcgs.

> would be 4 doses of 25 mcgs. apiece spread evenly

> across the day.) You also need to make sure that you

> cycle down off this product as well to keep the

> thyroid functioning properly as well. Don't take for

> more than 5 weeks at a time as well. After doing a

> cycle of this drug, make sure you go at least 8 weeks

> before doing it again as to allow normal thyroid

> functioning to return. "

[Guest guest]

I've heard all the scaremongering over Cytomel, and I can only

wonder where it is coming from...perhaps because some bodybuilders

have abused it, and it seems that this is where this article coming

from (with the cautions to go off it. If it is prescribed for

thyroid deficiency, those cautions don't necessarily apply.)

I was prescribed cytomel when I first was diagnosed with Hashimoto's

and I felt very good on it. Then, my endocrinologist told me it was

making me hyperthryoid and wanted me off of it, while the

naturopathic doctor who originally prescribed it didn't bat an eye.

I guess it all depends on HOW YOU FEEL in the end. Some doctors are

biased against it, some are not. Cytomel is definitely the more

powerful of the two main thyroid hormones that are supplemented, and

I think that is why doctors are sometimes scared of it. The docs

assume that since T4 converts to T3 in the body, if you take

Synthroid, you will get all you need. However, that is not always

the case since some people have trouble with the conversion! And

that is why some people do better on Armour, because Armour thyroid

has both T3 and T4. I know--this all sounds so complicated....and

it can be.

Just for comparison regarding the TSH, I find that I feel the best

when my TSH is as close to zero as I can get it. So, .10 sounds

perfectly normal to me. I would think that you would be feeling

pretty good at that level! I wouldn't worry about it! I would much

rather have a .10 than a 3 or 4, myself.

Remember, after explant, it is going to be anybody's guess as to

what your thryoid is going to do. 's numbers came down by the

thousands and she has seen so much improvement. My numbers started

to climb, I was given cytomel, and I felt great. Now, I am off all

meds and still feel great. I admit, I need to go get tested and see

what is going on. I have no clue, as I have neglected to keep track

of the numbers. I figured since I felt great, what purpose was

there? The doctors don't give a whit anyway, and I'd rather save

the money and keep my insurance records clean.

I couldn't imagine wanting to re-implant after going through all

this crap....I am shocked that Dr. M would tell you that, but I

guess we all have to make our own decisions and live with them. I

wish you the best upon explant and hope for a great result for you.

Patty

--- In , " interart81 " <interart81@y...>

wrote:

> Wow, well I am taking a very low dose of 5mcg, I never increased

it.

> I don't know what finally caused my TSH to normalize, it is now .10

> which I wonder if it is too low? A naturopathic doc told me that

once

> my thyroid stabilizes, my antibodies would go down. However, I

really

> would like to go completely off the thyroid meds, however I don't

know

> if that is a possibility either. I suppose I am just getting a bit

> frantic and nervous, last minute jitters, and am looking for

excuses.

> Dr. M said to see if my thyroid improves post explant and if not,

I

> can always re-implant should I hate how I look. I think I should

just

> go ahead with it. My husband tells me he doesn't think I should

have

> surgery if it's not causing me any problems, but I won't know if

this

> is the cause of my problems until I take them out and see what

happens

> over the months. S.

>

> --- In , Rogene S <saxony01@y...>

wrote:

> > Sandy,

> >

> > I can understand your reluctance to give up your

> > implants . . .

> >

> > You can always postpone the surgery . . . but you

> > could also get much sicker. You're the only one who

> > can make that decision.

> >

> > Thyroid malfunction seems to be one of the leading

> > problems after implants. What do you feel in your

> > heart? Do you think you implants have caused your

> > antibodies to increase? . . . If not, what is?

> >

> > This is what I found in a websearch for Cytomel. It

> > doesn't sound like something I would want to take

> > unsupervised. - Rogene

> >

> > " This product usually comes in bottles of 100 tablets

> > at 25 mcgs each. It is available in a variety of doses

> > though ranging from 5 - 100 mcgs. per tablet. Cytomel

> > is a synthetic thyroid hormone (Type T-3). There are

> > two main types of synthetic thyroid hormones that are

> > available being this and Synthroid (T-4). This product

> > is regarded as the stronger of the two products (it is

> > 4-5 times stronger than Synthroid). This product works

> > by increasing the synthesis of protein, carbohydrates,

> > and fats as well as RNA in the body thereby increasing

> > your BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate). Bodybuilders love

> > this product for many reasons. This product is an

> > excellent fat burner since your metabolism is greatly

> > increased while being on it. You can afford to be a

> > little sloppier on pre-contest dieting since it will

> > still burn fat when you are taking in a lot of

> > calories since your metabolism is going haywire. Step

> > over Ripped Fuel, E/C/A stack, Thermodrine. When taken

> > with Clenbuterol, this is the single best fat-burning

> > combination that is available today (with the possible

> > exception of DNP). It also helps to make steroids more

> > effective since it is such a good aid for protein

> > synthesis. Most people need to be careful to start

> > with a low dosage, about 25 mcgs. per day and increase

> > by about one tab or 25 mcgs. per day every 5-6 days.

> > Make sure that you don't go over 100 mcgs. per day at

> > the very most. On days that you take muliple tabs,

> > divide the tabs evenly across the day (i.e. 100 mcgs.

> > would be 4 doses of 25 mcgs. apiece spread evenly

> > across the day.) You also need to make sure that you

> > cycle down off this product as well to keep the

> > thyroid functioning properly as well. Don't take for

> > more than 5 weeks at a time as well. After doing a

> > cycle of this drug, make sure you go at least 8 weeks

> > before doing it again as to allow normal thyroid

> > functioning to return. "

[Guest guest]

Hello, I am very interested in what you had to say about post explant

and your thyroid numbers. 's antibodies went down by the

thousands? Do you have exact numbers? And in your case, the

antibodies increased, or the TSH increased? But you say now you are

on no meds at all, how did you wean yourself off them completely?

That is actually my goal. Dr. M said that because he was concerned I

wouldn't be pleaed with how I looked after explant in that I am very

flat...he said if it really bothered me later and if I saw there was

no improvement, I could always re-implant, however he said he had

never had a case where someone actually did re-implant again. I know

you must have posted previously about your case but I've read so many,

can you tell me exactly what happened to your antibodies after explant

and how long it took to go off thyroid meds (if that is what I

understood)....Thanks very much, S.

> > > Sandy,

> > >

> > > I can understand your reluctance to give up your

> > > implants . . .

> > >

> > > You can always postpone the surgery . . . but you

> > > could also get much sicker. You're the only one who

> > > can make that decision.

> > >

> > > Thyroid malfunction seems to be one of the leading

> > > problems after implants. What do you feel in your

> > > heart? Do you think you implants have caused your

> > > antibodies to increase? . . . If not, what is?

> > >

> > > This is what I found in a websearch for Cytomel. It

> > > doesn't sound like something I would want to take

> > > unsupervised. - Rogene

> > >

> > > " This product usually comes in bottles of 100 tablets

> > > at 25 mcgs each. It is available in a variety of doses

> > > though ranging from 5 - 100 mcgs. per tablet. Cytomel

> > > is a synthetic thyroid hormone (Type T-3). There are

> > > two main types of synthetic thyroid hormones that are

> > > available being this and Synthroid (T-4). This product

> > > is regarded as the stronger of the two products (it is

> > > 4-5 times stronger than Synthroid). This product works

> > > by increasing the synthesis of protein, carbohydrates,

> > > and fats as well as RNA in the body thereby increasing

> > > your BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate). Bodybuilders love

> > > this product for many reasons. This product is an

> > > excellent fat burner since your metabolism is greatly

> > > increased while being on it. You can afford to be a

> > > little sloppier on pre-contest dieting since it will

> > > still burn fat when you are taking in a lot of

> > > calories since your metabolism is going haywire. Step

> > > over Ripped Fuel, E/C/A stack, Thermodrine. When taken

> > > with Clenbuterol, this is the single best fat-burning

> > > combination that is available today (with the possible

> > > exception of DNP). It also helps to make steroids more

> > > effective since it is such a good aid for protein

> > > synthesis. Most people need to be careful to start

> > > with a low dosage, about 25 mcgs. per day and increase

> > > by about one tab or 25 mcgs. per day every 5-6 days.

> > > Make sure that you don't go over 100 mcgs. per day at

> > > the very most. On days that you take muliple tabs,

> > > divide the tabs evenly across the day (i.e. 100 mcgs.

> > > would be 4 doses of 25 mcgs. apiece spread evenly

> > > across the day.) You also need to make sure that you

> > > cycle down off this product as well to keep the

> > > thyroid functioning properly as well. Don't take for

> > > more than 5 weeks at a time as well. After doing a

> > > cycle of this drug, make sure you go at least 8 weeks

> > > before doing it again as to allow normal thyroid

> > > functioning to return. "