Re: Woke up to bad news! WASH POST: Surgeon Changes Tune on Breast Implants

[Guest guest]

What a crock of s***!

What an A**H***.

Can you tell I am Pi**ed?

Lynda

At 08:11 AM 5/11/2005, you wrote:

> From Ilena:

>

> >

> >

><http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/10/AR200505100123\

1_pf.html>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/10/AR2005\

051001231_pf.html

> >

> > washingtonpost.com

> > Surgeon Changes Tune on Breast Implants

> >

> > By Marc Kaufman

> > Washington Post Staff Writer

> > Wednesday, May 11, 2005; A08

> >

> >

> >

> > Whalen, the surgeon often credited with

> > persuading the Food and Drug Administration in 2003

> > to reject wider use of silicone gel breast implants,

> > has changed his mind.

> >

> > Whalen, now a private citizen, wrote to acting

> > Commissioner Lester M. Crawford last month that the

> > implant makers have made their case that the devices

> > are safe and that the FDA should approve the

> > applications of two companies that want to sell them

> > for general use.

> >

> > In 2003, as chairman of an expert panel advising the

> > FDA on the issue, Whalen criticized the group's

> > majority vote in favor of the implants and persuaded

> > the agency to turn down the application, arguing

> > that the company had not proved their safety.

> >

> > He was not a member of a separate expert panel that

> > reheard the issue last month and unexpectedly

> > recommended approval of one company's silicone

> > implants while rejecting a competitor's. The FDA has

> > said it will make a decision in the near future.

> >

> > " Much of my change in philosophy over this difficult

> > issue arises from a newfound perspective that to not

> > allow these devices for women who knowingly make the

> > choice to have them is sexist, " Whalen wrote. " I

> > feel that the time has arrived and the data is

> > sufficient to approve these devices. "

> >

> > Because Whalen's criticisms of the silicone gel

> > application after the 2003 meeting were widely seen

> > as an important factor in the FDA's subsequent

> > rejection, the turnaround was hailed yesterday by

> > some implant makers.

> >

> > " We certainly believe that we provided FDA the

> > information it needs to support our approval, " said

> > Dan Cohen, vice president for global government

> > affairs for Inamed Corp., whose implants were

> > reviewed in 2003 and last month. " We're pleased to

> > hear that Dr. Whalen, who chaired the 2003 panel,

> > also believes the [application] is approvable. "

> >

> > But Zuckerman, president of the National

> > Research Center for Women & Families, said the

> > letter should be disregarded because Whalen had not

> > attended the most recent hearing and had not seen a

> > transcript of the proceeding before writing his

> > letter. As a result, she said, he was not aware of

> > what she considered the dangerous shortcomings of

> > the safety data presented.

> >

> > " He was greatly criticized for his position last

> > time by the plastic surgeons, who are his fellow

> > surgeons, and it seems that they may have pressured

> > him to write a letter showing his confidence in them

> > and this product that they want approved, " she said.

> > " But unfortunately he didn't have the information he

> > needed to make a well-informed recommendation. "

> >

> > Currently, silicone implants are available only to

> > women needing reconstructive surgery or who agree to

> > take part in a clinical trial; all others must use

> > implants filled with saline solution, which many say

> > look and feel less natural.

> >

> > Whalen, a pediatric surgeon at the University of

> > Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey at the

> > Wood Medical School in New Brunswick,

> > declined to discuss his letter to Crawford, a copy

> > of which was obtained by The Washington Post.

> >

> > The most recent expert advisory panel voted in favor

> > of an application by Mentor Corp. but against a

> > competing bid by Inamed.

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~

> >

> > www.BreastImplantAwareness.org

> >

> >

> > ~

> >

> >

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

>licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

>Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

>a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

>two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am upset as well. What really upsets me is the idea that he has

confused the issue of choice vs safety in his renewed philosophical

musings. It is NOT SEXIST to demand safety for women.

It is NOT ABOUT GIVING WOMEN A CHOICE. It is about approving a

product that is either safe or unsafe, and safety is STILL a huge

question mark!!!!

Of course, for me it isn't a question anymore....I KNOW the implants

made me sick, just as many of you have found out for yourselves.

This is all just a big political joke, but after I sigh and shake my

head at the world we live in, I lift up my eyes to the One Who sees

it all, and just pray and ask Him to make all things right in His

time, in His way, and to give me eyes to see things as He sees

them. He is still victorious over all, still our Healer, still our

Redeemer, still the One Who saves, and still in control of this

messed up world even though man blindly marches toward his own

destruction. How I thank God for the hope we have in Christ Jesus,

who is coming back someday to make all things new.

Love,

Patty

> > From Ilena:

> >

> > >

> > >

> ><http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-

dyn/content/article/2005/05/10/AR2005051001231_pf.html>http://www.was

hingtonpost.com/wp-

dyn/content/article/2005/05/10/AR2005051001231_pf.html

> > >

> > > washingtonpost.com

> > > Surgeon Changes Tune on Breast Implants

> > >

> > > By Marc Kaufman

> > > Washington Post Staff Writer

> > > Wednesday, May 11, 2005; A08

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Whalen, the surgeon often credited with

> > > persuading the Food and Drug Administration in 2003

> > > to reject wider use of silicone gel breast implants,

> > > has changed his mind.

> > >

> > > Whalen, now a private citizen, wrote to acting

> > > Commissioner Lester M. Crawford last month that the

> > > implant makers have made their case that the devices

> > > are safe and that the FDA should approve the

> > > applications of two companies that want to sell them

> > > for general use.

> > >

> > > In 2003, as chairman of an expert panel advising the

> > > FDA on the issue, Whalen criticized the group's

> > > majority vote in favor of the implants and persuaded

> > > the agency to turn down the application, arguing

> > > that the company had not proved their safety.

> > >

> > > He was not a member of a separate expert panel that

> > > reheard the issue last month and unexpectedly

> > > recommended approval of one company's silicone

> > > implants while rejecting a competitor's. The FDA has

> > > said it will make a decision in the near future.

> > >

> > > " Much of my change in philosophy over this difficult

> > > issue arises from a newfound perspective that to not

> > > allow these devices for women who knowingly make the

> > > choice to have them is sexist, " Whalen wrote. " I

> > > feel that the time has arrived and the data is

> > > sufficient to approve these devices. "

> > >

> > > Because Whalen's criticisms of the silicone gel

> > > application after the 2003 meeting were widely seen

> > > as an important factor in the FDA's subsequent

> > > rejection, the turnaround was hailed yesterday by

> > > some implant makers.

> > >

> > > " We certainly believe that we provided FDA the

> > > information it needs to support our approval, " said

> > > Dan Cohen, vice president for global government

> > > affairs for Inamed Corp., whose implants were

> > > reviewed in 2003 and last month. " We're pleased to

> > > hear that Dr. Whalen, who chaired the 2003 panel,

> > > also believes the [application] is approvable. "

> > >

> > > But Zuckerman, president of the National

> > > Research Center for Women & Families, said the

> > > letter should be disregarded because Whalen had not

> > > attended the most recent hearing and had not seen a

> > > transcript of the proceeding before writing his

> > > letter. As a result, she said, he was not aware of

> > > what she considered the dangerous shortcomings of

> > > the safety data presented.

> > >

> > > " He was greatly criticized for his position last

> > > time by the plastic surgeons, who are his fellow

> > > surgeons, and it seems that they may have pressured

> > > him to write a letter showing his confidence in them

> > > and this product that they want approved, " she said.

> > > " But unfortunately he didn't have the information he

> > > needed to make a well-informed recommendation. "

> > >

> > > Currently, silicone implants are available only to

> > > women needing reconstructive surgery or who agree to

> > > take part in a clinical trial; all others must use

> > > implants filled with saline solution, which many say

> > > look and feel less natural.

> > >

> > > Whalen, a pediatric surgeon at the University of

> > > Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey at the

> > > Wood Medical School in New Brunswick,

> > > declined to discuss his letter to Crawford, a copy

> > > of which was obtained by The Washington Post.

> > >

> > > The most recent expert advisory panel voted in favor

> > > of an application by Mentor Corp. but against a

> > > competing bid by Inamed.

> > >

> > > ~~~~~~~~~~

> > >

> > > www.BreastImplantAwareness.org

> > >

> > >

> > > ~

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by

> >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live

> >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Naw . . . just honest!

Rogene

--- Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

> What a crock of s***!

>

> What an A**H***.

>

> Can you tell I am Pi**ed?

>

> Lynda

>

[Guest guest]

Honest and pi**ed.

Lynda

At 10:37 AM 5/11/2005, you wrote:

>Naw . . . just honest!

>

>Rogene

>

>

>--- Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

>

> > What a crock of s***!

> >

> > What an A**H***.

> >

> > Can you tell I am Pi**ed?

> >

> > Lynda

> >

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

>licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

>Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

>a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

>two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Exactly Patty.

I did just notice this on his bio:

http://www2.umdnj.edu/ethicweb/FacPhotos/BioWhalen.html

In addition, he is Surgeon-in-Chief of the Bristol-Myers-Squibb

Children's Hospital in New Brunswick, NJ

> > > From Ilena:

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > ><http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-

>

dyn/content/article/2005/05/10/AR2005051001231_pf.html>http://www.was

> hingtonpost.com/wp-

> dyn/content/article/2005/05/10/AR2005051001231_pf.html

> > > >

> > > > washingtonpost.com

> > > > Surgeon Changes Tune on Breast Implants

> > > >

> > > > By Marc Kaufman

> > > > Washington Post Staff Writer

> > > > Wednesday, May 11, 2005; A08

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Whalen, the surgeon often credited with

> > > > persuading the Food and Drug Administration in 2003

> > > > to reject wider use of silicone gel breast implants,

> > > > has changed his mind.

> > > >

> > > > Whalen, now a private citizen, wrote to acting

> > > > Commissioner Lester M. Crawford last month that the

> > > > implant makers have made their case that the devices

> > > > are safe and that the FDA should approve the

> > > > applications of two companies that want to sell them

> > > > for general use.

> > > >

> > > > In 2003, as chairman of an expert panel advising the

> > > > FDA on the issue, Whalen criticized the group's

> > > > majority vote in favor of the implants and persuaded

> > > > the agency to turn down the application, arguing

> > > > that the company had not proved their safety.

> > > >

> > > > He was not a member of a separate expert panel that

> > > > reheard the issue last month and unexpectedly

> > > > recommended approval of one company's silicone

> > > > implants while rejecting a competitor's. The FDA has

> > > > said it will make a decision in the near future.

> > > >

> > > > " Much of my change in philosophy over this difficult

> > > > issue arises from a newfound perspective that to not

> > > > allow these devices for women who knowingly make the

> > > > choice to have them is sexist, " Whalen wrote. " I

> > > > feel that the time has arrived and the data is

> > > > sufficient to approve these devices. "

> > > >

> > > > Because Whalen's criticisms of the silicone gel

> > > > application after the 2003 meeting were widely seen

> > > > as an important factor in the FDA's subsequent

> > > > rejection, the turnaround was hailed yesterday by

> > > > some implant makers.

> > > >

> > > > " We certainly believe that we provided FDA the

> > > > information it needs to support our approval, " said

> > > > Dan Cohen, vice president for global government

> > > > affairs for Inamed Corp., whose implants were

> > > > reviewed in 2003 and last month. " We're pleased to

> > > > hear that Dr. Whalen, who chaired the 2003 panel,

> > > > also believes the [application] is approvable. "

> > > >

> > > > But Zuckerman, president of the National

> > > > Research Center for Women & Families, said the

> > > > letter should be disregarded because Whalen had not

> > > > attended the most recent hearing and had not seen a

> > > > transcript of the proceeding before writing his

> > > > letter. As a result, she said, he was not aware of

> > > > what she considered the dangerous shortcomings of

> > > > the safety data presented.

> > > >

> > > > " He was greatly criticized for his position last

> > > > time by the plastic surgeons, who are his fellow

> > > > surgeons, and it seems that they may have pressured

> > > > him to write a letter showing his confidence in them

> > > > and this product that they want approved, " she said.

> > > > " But unfortunately he didn't have the information he

> > > > needed to make a well-informed recommendation. "

> > > >

> > > > Currently, silicone implants are available only to

> > > > women needing reconstructive surgery or who agree to

> > > > take part in a clinical trial; all others must use

> > > > implants filled with saline solution, which many say

> > > > look and feel less natural.

> > > >

> > > > Whalen, a pediatric surgeon at the University of

> > > > Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey at the

> > > > Wood Medical School in New Brunswick,

> > > > declined to discuss his letter to Crawford, a copy

> > > > of which was obtained by The Washington Post.

> > > >

> > > > The most recent expert advisory panel voted in favor

> > > > of an application by Mentor Corp. but against a

> > > > competing bid by Inamed.

> > > >

> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~

> > > >

> > > > www.BreastImplantAwareness.org

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ~

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> given by

> > >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> licensed

> > >health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you.

> > >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> how to live

> > >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> ing,

> > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Help, I locked my self our of our home. had to come home to resuce me.

While I was cleaning the garage, my psychologist called, he thought it was

funny and wanted to come and rescue me. I had just finished talking to him

and I knocked the phone onto the cement floor, no more phone. I'm safe in

our home now and I'm going to bed.

I wish that rotten so called surgeon was here I'm in a good mood to tell him

off. If I had not been so angry, this would not of happened. gave me a

key to put around my neck, but I forgot.

Love you all....Lea

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Re: Woke up to bad news! WASH POST: Surgeon Changes

Tune on Breast Implants

> Naw . . . just honest!

>

> Rogene

>

>

> --- Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

>

>> What a crock of s***!

>>

>> What an A**H***.

>>

>> Can you tell I am Pi**ed?

>>

>> Lynda

>>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Honey:

Bristol Myers-Squibb is destroying my life, they have more power than we

ever thought. They claim that they have never distributed breast implants in

Canada...liars. Dr. Blais has told us that they did and he should know. They

distributed the infamous Meme' breast implant in Canada!

Can we write to this man? Oh, I'm so angry....love you....Me

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Re: Woke up to bad news! WASH POST: Surgeon Changes

Tune on Breast Implants

> Exactly Patty.

>

> I did just notice this on his bio:

>

> http://www2.umdnj.edu/ethicweb/FacPhotos/BioWhalen.html

>

> In addition, he is Surgeon-in-Chief of the Bristol-Myers-Squibb

> Children's Hospital in New Brunswick, NJ

>

>

>

>> > > From Ilena:

>> > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > ><http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-

>>

> dyn/content/article/2005/05/10/AR2005051001231_pf.html>http://www.was

>> hingtonpost.com/wp-

>> dyn/content/article/2005/05/10/AR2005051001231_pf.html

>> > > >

>> > > > washingtonpost.com

>> > > > Surgeon Changes Tune on Breast Implants

>> > > >

>> > > > By Marc Kaufman

>> > > > Washington Post Staff Writer

>> > > > Wednesday, May 11, 2005; A08

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > > Whalen, the surgeon often credited with

>> > > > persuading the Food and Drug Administration in 2003

>> > > > to reject wider use of silicone gel breast implants,

>> > > > has changed his mind.

>> > > >

>> > > > Whalen, now a private citizen, wrote to acting

>> > > > Commissioner Lester M. Crawford last month that the

>> > > > implant makers have made their case that the devices

>> > > > are safe and that the FDA should approve the

>> > > > applications of two companies that want to sell them

>> > > > for general use.

>> > > >

>> > > > In 2003, as chairman of an expert panel advising the

>> > > > FDA on the issue, Whalen criticized the group's

>> > > > majority vote in favor of the implants and persuaded

>> > > > the agency to turn down the application, arguing

>> > > > that the company had not proved their safety.

>> > > >

>> > > > He was not a member of a separate expert panel that

>> > > > reheard the issue last month and unexpectedly

>> > > > recommended approval of one company's silicone

>> > > > implants while rejecting a competitor's. The FDA has

>> > > > said it will make a decision in the near future.

>> > > >

>> > > > " Much of my change in philosophy over this difficult

>> > > > issue arises from a newfound perspective that to not

>> > > > allow these devices for women who knowingly make the

>> > > > choice to have them is sexist, " Whalen wrote. " I

>> > > > feel that the time has arrived and the data is

>> > > > sufficient to approve these devices. "

>> > > >

>> > > > Because Whalen's criticisms of the silicone gel

>> > > > application after the 2003 meeting were widely seen

>> > > > as an important factor in the FDA's subsequent

>> > > > rejection, the turnaround was hailed yesterday by

>> > > > some implant makers.

>> > > >

>> > > > " We certainly believe that we provided FDA the

>> > > > information it needs to support our approval, " said

>> > > > Dan Cohen, vice president for global government

>> > > > affairs for Inamed Corp., whose implants were

>> > > > reviewed in 2003 and last month. " We're pleased to

>> > > > hear that Dr. Whalen, who chaired the 2003 panel,

>> > > > also believes the [application] is approvable. "

>> > > >

>> > > > But Zuckerman, president of the National

>> > > > Research Center for Women & Families, said the

>> > > > letter should be disregarded because Whalen had not

>> > > > attended the most recent hearing and had not seen a

>> > > > transcript of the proceeding before writing his

>> > > > letter. As a result, she said, he was not aware of

>> > > > what she considered the dangerous shortcomings of

>> > > > the safety data presented.

>> > > >

>> > > > " He was greatly criticized for his position last

>> > > > time by the plastic surgeons, who are his fellow

>> > > > surgeons, and it seems that they may have pressured

>> > > > him to write a letter showing his confidence in them

>> > > > and this product that they want approved, " she said.

>> > > > " But unfortunately he didn't have the information he

>> > > > needed to make a well-informed recommendation. "

>> > > >

>> > > > Currently, silicone implants are available only to

>> > > > women needing reconstructive surgery or who agree to

>> > > > take part in a clinical trial; all others must use

>> > > > implants filled with saline solution, which many say

>> > > > look and feel less natural.

>> > > >

>> > > > Whalen, a pediatric surgeon at the University of

>> > > > Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey at the

>> > > > Wood Medical School in New Brunswick,

>> > > > declined to discuss his letter to Crawford, a copy

>> > > > of which was obtained by The Washington Post.

>> > > >

>> > > > The most recent expert advisory panel voted in favor

>> > > > of an application by Mentor Corp. but against a

>> > > > competing bid by Inamed.

>> > > >

>> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~

>> > > >

>> > > > www.BreastImplantAwareness.org

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > > ~

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

>> given by

>> > >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

>> licensed

>> > >health care professional before commencing any medical

> treatment.

>> > >

>> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>> mislead you.

>> > >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

>> how to live

>> > >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

>> ing,

>> > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>> > >

>> > >

[Guest guest]

Lea,

You remind me of when my hubby drove off to town,

closing the garage door, thereby locking me out of the

house for hours! . . . I watched as he drove down the

street! He didn't realize I was outside.

It wouldn't have been so bad if I had at least had

some yard tools! . . . But I had nothing! Not even a

glass of water. Grrrrrrr.....

He actually helped me with the yard work after he got

home! . . . Yard work is totally against his

principles!

Love,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Honey:

Our hubbies would get along great, hates yard work and I love it.

Unlike you I did have water, a phone..now dead) and lots of work to do. I'm

sorry that this has happened to you too, we must have extra keys hidden. I

have to go for blood work tonight and has extra keys that we will hide

in the garage and in the back yard. A few of neighbours are against us

because of the man who lived here. They do not know the truth, when they do

find out , I know that things will change.

Life is such a mystery, my friend told me that I had told her that when one

door closes another opens. She said that I failed to tell her this could

happen many times.

Take care dear....love....Lea

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Re: Woke up to bad news! WASH POST: Surgeon Changes

Tune on Breast Implants

> Lea,

>

> You remind me of when my hubby drove off to town,

> closing the garage door, thereby locking me out of the

> house for hours! . . . I watched as he drove down the

> street! He didn't realize I was outside.

>

> It wouldn't have been so bad if I had at least had

> some yard tools! . . . But I had nothing! Not even a

> glass of water. Grrrrrrr.....

>

> He actually helped me with the yard work after he got

> home! . . . Yard work is totally against his

> principles!

>

> Love,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Money talks; I don't think it's coincidental that he has changed his

mind JUST before the FDA decides. It has nothing to do with

SEXISM...it's sexist to say it's sexist...ok, i'll hush...J

[Guest guest]

Just when we thought there was an honorable man!

I wonder what his price was?

Rogene

--- crazycanoe1 <crazycanoe1@...> wrote:

> Money talks; I don't think it's coincidental that he

> has changed his

> mind JUST before the FDA decides. It has nothing to

> do with

> SEXISM...it's sexist to say it's sexist...ok, i'll

> hush...J

>

>

>