Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 > seem against pills, I seem to be doing a bit better on them then the> patch or gel which bloated me terrible...but I am still puzzled about> how you guys seems to know how long something lasts and such. -------Hi Carol!I think a bunch of us have been experimenting with HRT so long that we're getting good at recognizing with our body starts crashing from too little. ...but it's taken me a few years of this to really see it now. I also bloat on too much estrogen cream. I'm on a vivelle dot right now but at times it's not enough. (i.e. last week right before my period started and I was having horrible low estrogen signs) I use some cream or gel to supplement then but it's not the same for me as a nice steady supply like the dot gives me.My doctor has suggested a pill and I'm thinking about it. Don't worry that you might be out of synch if you that seems to work well for you. We're all about exploration here and very open about how different each of our bodies are too delivery systems.ByeLynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 It's simple--I know how long an estrogen dose lasts because I start feeling the faint beginnings of a return of one or more symptoms at X number of hours from the last dose. So I try never to forget to take my dose before X number of hours passes. It was probably not the patch or the gel that bloated you; it was the dose. You won't absorb exactly the same amount of estrogen with the various forms, even if the dose on the label says it is the same. There is also a difference in absorption of generics versus brand names (no matter what " they " tell us), compounded versus manufactured, and even between pharmacies in the case of compounded. If you adjusted your gel dose down a little bit, you would probably stop bloating. It is harder to adjust the patch. You can use a weaker patch, but it might not be enough. There is always an " optimum " level of estradiol for each woman with each form of estradiol, and that optimum amount may change over time. Then there are the other variables, like how much, how often, and what kind of progesterone you were using at the time of your using the patch and gel. Progesterone is well known for causing bloating. Sometimes adding just a bit more estradiol during those days helps a lot. Another variable, if you are/were using the Bi-est or Tri-est and not just estradiol, is how much of the other two forms of estrogen are/were in your dose. I found that the estriol bloated my breasts up like water- filled balloons. All in all, the complexity of it is enough to drive a woman crazy. I have cut out the other two forms of estrogen and now just take estradiol in order to eliminate some of these variables. I found out after 9 years of using Tri-est that the body can make the other two (estrone and estriol) from estradiol, so that was just adding another complicating factor that I didn't need. ----Rosette -- In rhythmicliving , " Carol " wrote: > > I read this board quite a bit as I too am struggling with hormonal > issues. I'm confused about how so many of you seem to know how long > your individual doses of estrogens seem to last. Though most of you > seem against pills, I seem to be doing a bit better on them then the > patch or gel which bloated me terrible...but I am still puzzled about > how you guys seems to know how long something lasts and such. I'm > pondering the P issue also having gone back to taking compounded oral > daily? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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