Re: Re: Misinformation? Dolly Parton's alleged explant

[Guest guest]

Darling Ilena:

I think that she had customized breast implants...I will send you a peer

reviewed article on these implants. This is a mystery to me, she does not

seem to be sick?

Was the award to Dr. Blais old? ...love you....Me

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Re: Misinformation? Dolly Parton's alleged explant

> LOL ... last fall seems like " recently " to me ...

>

> I think there was also a People Magazine that talked about her

> explant around the same time as those two articles made the news ...

>

> Interesting huh? I tend to believe she removed them ... I recall

> hearing in the past that she actually had 'stacked' implants ... two

> on each side.

>

> Thanks for that recent article.

>

> Love from Ilena

> www.BreastImplantAwareness.org

>

>

>

>> > Sep 27 2004, 1:46 pm show options

>> >

>> >>

>> > There were several stories about this last September ... here

> are

>> > two I had posted.

>>

>>

>> Right, I've read those. When I received the most recent

> newsletter

>> from Ilena and Dolly Parton was listed as 'recently explanted',

> I've

>> not seen anything to coorborate that assertion.

>>

>> The Hello! interview I transcribed in my earlier post is from

>> Jan/2005. These other stories/quotes from Dolly Parton are older

> than

>> the Hello! interview.

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Three on each side, that is what the book said.

Lynda

At 08:19 AM 5/9/2005, you wrote:

>LOL ... last fall seems like " recently " to me ...

>

>I think there was also a People Magazine that talked about her

>explant around the same time as those two articles made the news ...

>

>Interesting huh? I tend to believe she removed them ... I recall

>hearing in the past that she actually had 'stacked' implants ... two

>on each side.

>

>Thanks for that recent article.

>

>Love from Ilena

>www.BreastImplantAwareness.org

>

>

>

> > > Sep 27 2004, 1:46 pm show options

> > >

> > >>

> > > There were several stories about this last September ... here

>are

> > > two I had posted.

> >

> >

> > Right, I've read those. When I received the most recent

>newsletter

> > from Ilena and Dolly Parton was listed as 'recently explanted',

>I've

> > not seen anything to coorborate that assertion.

> >

> > The Hello! interview I transcribed in my earlier post is from

> > Jan/2005. These other stories/quotes from Dolly Parton are older

>than

> > the Hello! interview.

>

>

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

>licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

>Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

>a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

>two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

The one she helped to write, I cannot remember the name. Maybe just

" Dolly " . She had one of our local plastic surgeons do one of the

surgeries, praised him highly, he is on our s*** list. Treated some women

VERY badly.

Lynda

At 09:23 AM 5/9/2005, you wrote:

>YIKES!

>

>Which book, Lynda?

>

>

> > > > > Sep 27 2004, 1:46 pm show options

> > > > >

> > > > >>

> > > > > There were several stories about this last September ... here

> > >are

> > > > > two I had posted.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Right, I've read those. When I received the most recent

> > >newsletter

> > > > from Ilena and Dolly Parton was listed as 'recently explanted',

> > >I've

> > > > not seen anything to coorborate that assertion.

> > > >

> > > > The Hello! interview I transcribed in my earlier post is from

> > > > Jan/2005. These other stories/quotes from Dolly Parton are

>older

> > >than

> > > > the Hello! interview.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

>given by

> > >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

>licensed

> > >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>mislead you.

> > >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

>how to live

> > >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

>ing,

> > >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Yes, I read somewhere that she had breast implants but for years would not admit it. She claimed that they were real. I hate that!!! Then I read that she was having trouble with them and had them removed but had them replaced. Why isn't she as sick as the rest of us???????

Beth S.colibrimama <colibrimama@...> wrote:

Sep 27 2004, 1:46 pm show options Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant From: Ilena Rose <i...@...> - Find messages by this author Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:46:16 -0600 Local: Mon,Sep 27 2004 1:46 pm Subject: Re: Dolly Parton is having her famous breasts reduced Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse There were several stories about this last September ... here are two I had posted.http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/802578.cms(one above is still online ... one below isn't)www.BreastImplantAwareness.org27/09/2004 - 09:52:30 http://breakingnews.iol.ie/ent­ertainment/story.asp?j=1188416­86 & p=yy88... Country legend Dolly Parton is having her famous breasts reduced after suffering 30 years of excruciating back pain. The I Will always Love You singer had silicone implants in both her twenties and her thirties, but doctors have now told the 58-year-old star her enormous double-D bust will have to be reduced to relieve the crippling pressure on her back and shoulders. She admits: "My boobs are killing me - and I don't know if I can stand the pain any longer. "My boobs have been a trademark for me - but I've paid one hell of a price Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth,

You have to remember that there are numerous women out there with implants that never get sick. My sister and aunt both have silicone implants and have never been sick as a result of them. My aunt has had hers for nearly 30 years!

Kenda

Yes, I read somewhere that she had breast implants but for years would not admit it. She claimed that they were real. I hate that!!! Then I read that she was having trouble with them and had them removed but had them replaced. Why isn't she as sick as the rest of us???????

Beth S.

colibrimama <colibrimama@...> wrote:

Sep 27 2004, 1:46 pm show options

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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:46:16 -0600

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Subject: Re: Dolly Parton is having her famous breasts reduced

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There were several stories about this last September ... here are

two I had posted.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/802578.cms

(one above is still online ... one below isn't)

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org

27/09/2004 - 09:52:30

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/ent­ertainment/story.asp?j=1188416­ <http://breakingnews.iol.ie/ent & shy;ertainment/story.asp?j=1188416 & shy;>

86 & p=yy88...

Country legend Dolly Parton is having her famous breasts reduced

after

suffering 30 years of excruciating back pain.

The I Will always Love You singer had silicone implants in both her

twenties and her thirties, but doctors have now told the 58-year-old

star her enormous double-D bust will have to be reduced to relieve

the

crippling pressure on her back and shoulders.

She admits: " My boobs are killing me - and I don't know if I can

stand

the pain any longer.

" My boobs have been a trademark for me - but I've paid one hell of a

price

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medic al treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Kenda,

Some of the earliest implants actually were safer . ..

Shells were thicker and they didn't rupture as

readily. Then they started on the " new and improved "

models.

From what I've seen, women who take extradordinarly

good care of themselves . . . eat right and exercise

tolerate them longer . . . But even then, IMHO, sooner

or later they will have problems because the shell

will deteriorate.

Perhaps replacing them regularly would help. GT says

the stars replace theirs every five years.

But think of all the surgery that means!

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene,

My aunt and sister don’t take care of themselves at all — not even mammograms! My sister has had her implants 10 years and I have been nagging her to at least get them checked out to be sure they aren’t leaking silicone. She feels fine, that’s all that matters.

Getting implants replaced regularly sounds like good advice to me. I’d have to wonder about all of that scar tissue being removed, or do they just leave it in surgery after surgery?

Kenda

Kenda,

Some of the earliest implants actually were safer . ..

Shells were thicker and they didn't rupture as

readily. Then they started on the " new and improved "

models.

>From what I've seen, women who take extradordinarly

good care of themselves . . . eat right and exercise

tolerate them longer . . . But even then, IMHO, sooner

or later they will have problems because the shell

will deteriorate.

Perhaps replacing them regularly would help. GT says

the stars replace theirs every five years.

But think of all the surgery that means!

Rogene

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Kenda,

The capsule should be removed . . . but, if a woman

isn't symptomatic, it's probably not a big issue -

assuming the shell hasn't been shedding particles, and

the capsule isn't contaminated. . . etc. etc. etc.

Of course, the plastic surgeons try to put in ever

larger implants to make up for sagging over time. . .

Most women don't know they have the option of a lift!

Rogene

[Guest guest]

I think the idea is to change them out before the

shell starts to degrade.

I've often wondered what's behind 's

problems.

Rogene

--- glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

> I don't know....I think replacing them regularly

> would lead to new

> doses of chemicals each time! If the metals and

> other chemicals are

> leaching out over time as the shell degrades, it

> would seem to me

> that with each new implant, that would mean starting

> out all over

> again with another full load of toxic chemicals.

> Eww....

>

[Guest guest]

Dearest Kenda:

The symptoms are so insidious that no woman would realize that her implants are a problem. I have so many women who have had their breast implants for 25 years. They usually call me to see if they should have them replaced, even though they are not having any symptoms. This is where is gets interesting, because they want to know how I am doing. When I tell them about what has happened to me, they begin to relate some of their symptoms to me. I always ask questions, such as do you have any heart problems or joint pain? They then start to tell me some of the things that have happened to them over the years. Some have had some serious heart problems and many other things that would not allow these women to think that it could be their breast implants.

Honey, I have been taking calls from women for over ten years and they have all had problems that were definitely related to implants. One lady had to have foot surgery and ended up in a wheelchair...this is when I met her. She thought that her arthritis was from old age; however, when I asked her about her implants, she said that she would have them checked...they were both ruptured! This lady has MGUS and she could end up with full-blown Multiple Myeloma. Dr. Blais has said the same thing, and he feels that most women never think that their health problems are from their ruptured breast implants. Silicone breast implants do not deflate like saline and mammograms rarely show a rupture.The other day, a girl who had saline told me that her implants are like rocks and that she is sick. The capsule could be thick, and that is why she can't tell if they have deflated. I know because I had mammograms every year and no rupture was ever detected. When the plastic surgeon went in to surgically remove my implants, they were grossly ruptured. The old Cronin had a thicker shell, and it takes longer to deteriorate, but the saline implant seemed to last longer as well; however, these women became very sick eventually. This really is a SILENT epidemic.

There will always be the indestructible woman who has implants and appears never to get sick...but I do not believe this to be true. A different approach in questioning your aunt and sister could reveal problems that they do not even realize they are having until they are made to think about them.

Kenda, thank you for staying with our group, you are a well-informed lady.

Love you....Lea

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Re: Dolly Parton is having her famous breasts reduced Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse There were several stories about this last September ... here are two I had posted.http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/802578.cms(one above is still online ... one below isn't)www.BreastImplantAwareness.org27/09/2004 - 09:52:30 http://breakingnews.iol.ie/ent­ertainment/story.asp?j=1188416­ <http://breakingnews.iol.ie/ent & shy;ertainment/story.asp?j=1188416 & shy;> 86 & p=yy88... Country legend Dolly Parton is having her famous breasts reduced after suffering 30 years of excruciating back pain. The I Will always Love You singer had silicone implants in both her twenties and her thirties, but doctors have now told the 58-year-old star her enormous double-D bust will have to be reduced to relieve the crippling pressure on her back and shoulders. She admits: "My boobs are killing me - and I don't know if I can stand the pain any longer. "My boobs have been a trademark for me - but I've paid one hell of a price

[Guest guest]

Honey, all breast implants leak from the day that they are implanted. This is well documented and if women would do more research they would be informed. It makes me so angry when I see some doctors who write letters claiming that breast implants are safe. Most all of these doctors work for the manufacturers. A few months ago, I called the director of Biochemistry here at the UofA to see if he would agree to do platinum testing on me. He did agree, because he knows my case so well. He asked if I knew that there is a high incidence of lung cancer in women who have breast implants, and that these women smoke and lead risky lifestyles. I wanted to slap his face, how dare he make such a comment. The next day he made sure that an article was published claiming that platinum was not a problem in women who have breast implants. What is going on??

Sending love to all....Lea (I'm off to see my doctor)

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Re: Re: Misinformation? Dolly Parton's alleged explant

Hi Rogene,My aunt and sister don’t take care of themselves at all — not even mammograms! My sister has had her implants 10 years and I have been nagging her to at least get them checked out to be sure they aren’t leaking silicone. She feels fine, that’s all that matters. Getting implants replaced regularly sounds like good advice to me. I’d have to wonder about all of that scar tissue being removed, or do they just leave it in surgery after surgery?Kenda

Kenda,Some of the earliest implants actually were safer . ..Shells were thicker and they didn't rupture asreadily. Then they started on the "new and improved"models. >From what I've seen, women who take extradordinarlygood care of themselves . . . eat right and exercisetolerate them longer . . . But even then, IMHO, sooneror later they will have problems because the shellwill deteriorate. Perhaps replacing them regularly would help. GT saysthe stars replace theirs every five years. But think of all the surgery that means!RogeneOpinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Hi Lea,

I guess I should have said that they both believe they are healthy and without problems. I know my sister isn’t in tune to her body at all and probably wouldn’t notice a problem if she had one. I don’t know about my aunt, she lives two thousand miles away and I rarely see her. I just know what my mom tells me about her. They all think I’m crazy because I passed on getting implants. The saddest thing to me is that my youngest sister is now seeing plastic surgeons so she can get implants too. We are not close at all and she will not listen to me. I hate to see her walk down the path so many of you have walked, it breaks my heart for her.

Kenda

Dearest Kenda:

The symptoms are so insidious that no woman would realize that her implants are a problem. I have so many women who have had their breast implants for 25 years. They usually call me to see if they should have them replaced, even though they are not having any symptoms. This is where is gets interesting, because they want to know how I am doing. When I tell them about what has happened to me, they begin to relate some of their symptoms to me. I always ask questions, such as do you have any heart problems or joint pain? They then start to tell me some of the things that have happened to them over the years. Some have had some serious heart problems and many other things that would not allow these women to think that it could be their breast implants.

Honey, I have been taking calls from women for over ten years and they have all had problems that were definitely related to implants. One lady had to have foot surgery and ended up in a wheelchair...this is when I met her. She thought that her arthritis was from old age; however, when I asked her about her implants, she said that she would have them checked...they were both ruptured! This lady has MGUS and she could end up with full-blown Multiple Myeloma. Dr. Blais has said the same thing, and he feels that most women never think that their health problems are from their ruptured breast implants. Silicone breast implants do not deflate like saline and mammograms rarely show a rupture.The other day, a girl who had saline told me that her implants are like rocks and that she is sick. The capsule could be thick, and that is why she can't tell if they have deflated. I know because I had mammograms every year and no rupture was ever detected. When the plastic surgeon went in to surgically remove my implants, they were grossly ruptured. The old Cronin had a thicker shell, and it takes longer to deteriorate, but the saline implant seemed to last longer as well; however, these women became very sick eventually. This really is a SILENT epidemic.

There will always be the indestructible woman who has implants and appears never to get sick...but I do not believe this to be true. A different approach in questioning your aunt and sister could reveal problems that they do not even realize they are having until they are made to think about them.

Kenda, thank you for staying with our group, you are a well-informed lady.

Love you....Lea

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Re: Dolly Parton is having her famous breasts reduced

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There were several stories about this last September ... here are

two I had posted.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/802578.cms

(one above is still online ... one below isn't)

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org

27/09/2004 - 09:52:30

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/ent­ertainment/story.asp?j=1188416­ <http://breakingnews.iol.ie/ent & shy;ertainment/story.asp?j=1188416 & shy;> <http://breakingnews.iol.ie/ent & shy;ertainment/story.asp?j=1188416 & shy;>

86 & p=yy88...

Country legend Dolly Parton is having her famous breasts reduced

after

suffering 30 years of excruciating back pain.

The I Will always Love You singer had silicone implants in both her

twenties and her thirties, but doctors have now told the 58-year-old

star her enormous double-D bust will have to be reduced to relieve

the

crippling pressure on her back and shoulders.

She admits: " My boobs are killing me - and I don't know if I can

stand

the pain any longer.

" My boobs have been a trademark for me - but I've paid one hell of a

price

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

[Guest guest]

Honey, in all of the old research breast implants were never safe to be

implanted into the human body. Why are they still being used today? Women

who do not die from their implants live a life of suffering. Most of these

women would rather suffer than to tell anyone that they are sick. My doctor

told me this morning that it is easier to suffer than to have the medical

community come down on them. He believes that breast implants are not safe.

We asked him what sjogrens was, he replied that it is an autoimmune disease.

It causes the mucus membranes to dry up and that he feels that I do have it.

My burning tongue is really a dry cracked tongue, but to me it feels like it

is burning. In the last few months I have very cold hands and at times I'm

freezing, this is a new symptom. Sjogrens can progress and cause many

problems as time goes by...there is no cure that we know of.

This wonderful man has worked at Cross Cancer Institute for ten years and he

is a microbiologist. He is so good to me, this morning I was so angry and he

knew why...another e-mail gastro. I want to save other women from suffering

like I have....my fight will continue. " All breast implants leak from day

one. " Yes, let us keep this little group together until we make a big change

in the way that we think about our bodies.

Love you...Lea

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Re: Misinformation? Dolly Parton's alleged explant

> It would be really hard to determine when that point of shell

> degradation would begin for each person. I have a feeling it is

> different depending on our specific body conditions.

>

> For instance, some people can wear nickel jewelry and be just fine

> with it. No problems. However, I absolutely cannot wear nickel

> jewelry at all. It turns my skin black, I get red itchy bumps where

> it touches my skin, and if I continue to wear it, my skin breaks out

> into a weeping, red sore mess. I turn silver jewelry into dull

> tarnished colors.

>

> It's the same way with my earrings. I absolutely must have 14 K

> gold earrings. Otherwise, any other metal makes my ear lobes first

> turn hot, then red and inflamed and itchy.

>

> Obviously, my body is reacting to the metals, and the contact either

> eats away at the metals, or the metals eat away at me. With metals

> in the implants, I can only wonder if that type of reaction is

> coming into play at all.

>

> Like I said, it would seem to me that shell degradation occurs at

> different rates in different people, depending on their immune

> system, so it seems it would be nearly impossible to predict when

> the shell is actually degrading, if at all!

>

>

>> > I don't know....I think replacing them regularly

>> > would lead to new

>> > doses of chemicals each time! If the metals and

>> > other chemicals are

>> > leaching out over time as the shell degrades, it

>> > would seem to me

>> > that with each new implant, that would mean starting

>> > out all over

>> > again with another full load of toxic chemicals.

>> > Eww....

>> >

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

She has had breast implants for years and years just like Marlyn Monroe, she

has suffered so much.

Love you....Lea

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Re: Re: Misinformation? Dolly Parton's alleged

explant

>I think the idea is to change them out before the

> shell starts to degrade.

>

> I've often wondered what's behind 's

> problems.

>

> Rogene

>

>

> --- glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

>> I don't know....I think replacing them regularly

>> would lead to new

>> doses of chemicals each time! If the metals and

>> other chemicals are

>> leaching out over time as the shell degrades, it

>> would seem to me

>> that with each new implant, that would mean starting

>> out all over

>> again with another full load of toxic chemicals.

>> Eww....

>>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

[Guest guest]

I heard that Marilyn Monore had silicone injections. .

.. Anybody know?

Rogene