Guest guest Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 > Is there reasons why my emails dont turn up? Am i doing something > wrong or just being completely unintelligent? > > Jeni did you send this message from the yahoo groups website? -joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 > > Is there reasons why my emails dont turn up? Am i doing something > > wrong or just being completely unintelligent?>> > > > ** Yes, there is a reason they don't show up. They are inappropriate > for the list. This list is not appropriate for people who feel they have > little or no control over suicidal urges. These posts defocus the group and > deflect attention from the group purpose and place it on you. > > > > I believe that some people have to take the most difficult path in order > to learn the things they seek to learn. This is a valid way to do it. I > certainly don't want to stand in anyone's way of making the mistakes they > need to make in order to cime to the point that the light goes in and they > have that 'Aha!' moment. > > > > I also believe it is not the past that determines the victim, it is the > present time benefit gained from being a victim that keeps one a victim. > As long as one is a victim, one never gains mastery over life. This list is > not going to contribute to that by giving you a forum for this type of > behavior. when you say the present time benefit of being a victim, do you mean the benefit would be that you can give up and have others feel bad for you? Today i was feeling like im must have been born to lose, because things seem to be going wrong and there doesn't seem to be a reason for it. I didn't really care whether or not i lived, but i was able to turn it around when i realized that what you do determines whether you win or lose. You gotta break free of the paradigm. Of course if someone is saddled with enough burdens it might be possible to completely break a peron down to a point of no return. -joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Dear Joe, You said: <<when you say the present time benefit of being a victim, do you mean the benefit would be that you can give up and have others feel bad for you?>> ** Well, kind of, except it would have to be that one enjoys the attention one gets as a " victim " and prefers it to making choices to be well. You said: <<Today i was feeling like im must have been born to lose, because things seem to be going wrong and there doesn't seem to be a reason for it. I didn't really care whether or not i lived, but i was able to turn it around when i realized that what you do determines whether you win or lose. You gotta break free of the paradigm. >> ** I think everyone has days like this. The difference is that most people don't make it a career to tell others about it stating they have no control over their response to life's circumstances. Though it is sometimes difficult to see the reasons, there are reasons for everything that occurs in our lives. Sometimes it has more to do with another person than us, but there is always something there for us to learn from. When you can't see the reason now it oftenn makes itself clear further down the road. In your case, Joe, most of the time your attitude is very positive. There will always be those days here and there where your best response to it will be to pull the covers over your head and begin again tomorrow. You said: <<Of course if someone is saddled with enough burdens it might be possible to completely break a peron down to a point of no return. >> ** This happens if a person has been letting burdens accumulate, meaning they haven't been responding in a healthy way to life. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 , thank you for your response. Firstly, I'd like to apologise for the behaviour, your group is very different to others I've been on, and i didnt take enough time to realise what was appropriate to post here. I hope you dont mind if i continue to read the list, it shall, and already is helping me re-find that 'place in life' i need to be at. I do not believe suicide is a necessary response to ANYTHING, or else i wouldnt be here right now. I am however stuggling to cope with the change of moods experiencing lately. I am withdrawing from the tegretol at 100mg every 3 days,in a month i have the brain scan after being completely off, and then im going to be totally focussed on building my life back to how it was before my naivety believed that doctors could help me. Thank you all for your time/help. It took many of you time to realise the truth, perhaps im slower than most, but i will. Jeni > I don't think you're at the place in your life where you're ready for > this list. > > I trust the Universe enough to know that whatever happens it will be the > right thing for the path you are on. I wish you the best. I know you can > improve your life and find the emotional maturity and life skills to realize > that suicide is an unnecessary response to life's difficulties. > > Regards, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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