Re: Somers, Wiley, & Critics on Larry King Tonight

[Guest guest]

Oops, sorry for the duplicate notice. :-)

> http://www.wileywatch.org/blog/debv/somers_et_al_on_larry_king

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[Guest guest]

Yes, Somers kept trying to scream how wonderful her book was and got very defensive saying Wiley was only seven and a half pages in her book. Wiley rolled her eyes and sneered. Schwartzbein rationally tried to explain how sick most of the Wiley patients got.

Drs Schwartzbein and Schwartz looked very healthy while Somers and Wiley still look puffy with heavy makeup piled on. I don't know what's the matter with Somers' lips or why the eyebrows are pulled so high. It was kind of scary.

At the end, when Larry King turned the CNN over to veteran disaster correspondent, , he even looked scared. That was the funny part.

L.

You didn't miss much. They did not allow enough time. Suzanne was not the ususal salesperson. They all just bickered back and forth. She stood firmly with Wiley. They did not take questions or phone calls there was not enough time. Sommers spent most of the time trying to discredit the others, she was more worried about her book sales then us. What I want to know it what the hell did she do to her lips?

[Guest guest]

> http://www.wileywatch.org/blog/debv/somers_et_al_on_larry_king

-----> I missed this ....if someone saw it would you mind posting?

Thanks

Lynn

[Guest guest]

Yes, Somers kept trying to scream how wonderful her book was and got very defensive saying Wiley was only seven and a half pages in her book. Wiley rolled her eyes and sneered. Schwartzbein rationally tried to explain how sick most of the Wiley patients got.

Drs Schwartzbein and Schwartz looked very healthy while Somers and Wiley still look puffy with heavy makeup piled on. I don't know what's the matter with Somers' lips or why the eyebrows are pulled so high. It was kind of scary.

At the end, when Larry King turned the CNN over to veteran disaster correspondent, , he even looked scared. That was the funny part.

L.

Great synopsis -- and pretty much the same take i had on it. I was

actually feeling quite sorry for Larry King, who looked to me as if he wished he was anywhere but where he was for the duration of the scream-fest. And, yes, , the veteran war correspondent,

DID look positively freaked and more than a little shell-shocked when the

camera went to him. lol.

To me, Sommer's physical appearance hovered somewhere between

the clown-like and the grotesque. I kept staring with morbid fascination

at her upper lip, which looked as if it had rebelled from too many injections

by forming multiple unsightly bumps.

Wiley, whom i had never seen before, struck me -- in her appearance,

mannerisms and sneery, belligerent tone -- as someone i would definitely not wish to spend any time around. In fact, her whole aura pretty much creeped

me out. She looked very puffy and unhealthy. And did you notice her neck?

It was positively bulging, as if she might have a goiter.

Definitely NOT good advertisement for the Wiley protocol - - - while the

two female doctors looked quite healthy and attractive.

The really sad thing to me was that, with all the disruptions (Somers

literally didn't let more than the few words come out of Schwartzbein's mouth before she rudely interrupted by shouting over her) i imagine the

average woman, confused about hormone issues and not really knowing

what to believe, would have come away from this pathetic and embarrassing

display of bad manners and uncivil discourse on Somers and Wiley's parts

by being even MORE confused. Swartzbein did manage, while Somers was taking a quick break from screaming to catch her breath, to get in that

she was concerned about the high levels of P and the damaging effects

she's seen on women's adrenals . But i doubt that most viewers

would have even caught this, really, since before there could be any elaboration, Somers was back to interrupting. . . . and, for good measure,

muttering that she didn't like Schwartzbein.

Hollis

[Guest guest]

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> > http://www.wileywatch.org/blog/debv/somers_et_al_on_larry_king

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>

> -----> I missed this ....if someone saw it would you mind posting?

>

> Thanks

> Lynn

>

You didn't miss much. They did not allow enough time. Suzanne was not

the ususal salesperson. They all just bickered back and forth. She

stood firmly with Wiley. They did not take questions or phone calls

there was not enough time. Sommers spent most of the time trying to

discredit the others, she was more worried about her book sales then

us. What I want to know it what the hell did she do to her lips?

[Guest guest]

> In a message dated 11/16/2006 8:06:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,

lynnelalala@... writes:

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Swartzbein did manage, while Somers was

> taking a quick break from screaming to catch her breath, to get in that

> she was concerned about the high levels of P and the damaging effects

> she's seen on women's adrenals . But i doubt that most viewers

> would have even caught this, really, since before there could be any

> elaboration, Somers was back to interrupting. . . . and, for good measure,

> muttering that she didn't like Schwartzbein.

>

> Hollis

>

Did you catch what Somers replied with??

From the transcript:

SOMERS: My point here is not about the Wiley protocol or about the

static dose that she was doing. My point is I wrote an incredible book

that lays out everything she just said.

SOMERS: Here's -- here's how you strengthen adrenals, cortisol,

insulin, thyroid. Here's what you do about your estrogen,

progesterone, DATE pragmenitol (ph).

How does someone who's not a doctor sit and advise people she's never

laid eyes on, telling them to take things?

Serra

[Guest guest]

>Sorry I meant to say " was the usual sales person " I have a totally

different view of her now.....

>

> Yes, Somers kept trying to scream how wonderful her book was and

got very

> defensive saying Wiley was only seven and a half pages in her

book. Wiley rolled

> her eyes and sneered. Schwartzbein rationally tried to explain

how sick

> most of the Wiley patients got.

>

> Drs Schwartzbein and Schwartz looked very healthy while Somers and

Wiley

> still look puffy with heavy makeup piled on. I don't know what's

the matter with

> Somers' lips or why the eyebrows are pulled so high. It was kind

of scary.

>

> At the end, when Larry King turned the CNN over to veteran

disaster

> correspondent, , he even looked scared. That was

the funny part.

>

> L.

>

>

> In a message dated 11/16/2006 6:48:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> NJCarolxx@... writes:

>

> You didn't miss much. They did not allow enough time. Suzanne was

not

> the ususal salesperson. They all just bickered back and forth.

She

> stood firmly with Wiley. They did not take questions or phone

calls

> there was not enough time. Sommers spent most of the time trying

to

> discredit the others, she was more worried about her book sales

then

> us. What I want to know it what the hell did she do to her lips?

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with you Carol! THey needed a whole hour -- and Suzanne was

only worried about her book sales. And her face looked TERRIBLE.

SHe must have just come from botox shots. Why they had Wiley on

there I have no idea. Her protocol was not discussed. But at least

it is getting out in the open. I want to know who these people in

Santa Barbara are that are doing FINE on 6200 mgs of P a month.

Please!

> >

> > > http://www.wileywatch.org/blog/debv/somers_et_al_on_larry_king

> >

> >

> > -----> I missed this ....if someone saw it would you mind

posting?

> >

> > Thanks

> > Lynn

> >

> You didn't miss much. They did not allow enough time. Suzanne was

not

> the ususal salesperson. They all just bickered back and forth.

She

> stood firmly with Wiley. They did not take questions or phone

calls

> there was not enough time. Sommers spent most of the time trying

to

> discredit the others, she was more worried about her book sales

then

> us. What I want to know it what the hell did she do to her lips?

>

[Guest guest]

I read Ageless

just for fun. Suzanne says she and Suzie became dear friends during the 2 years

she took to get her hormones straightened out. Maybe

that is why she was on Larry King.

Elsewhere in the

book she says she needs a large amount of E and very little P, so I don’t

know how she is doing the Wiley protocol unless it changed somewhere along the

line.

nne

Why they had Wiley on

there I have no idea. Her protocol was not discussed. But at least

it is getting out in the open. I want to know who these people in

Santa Barbara

are that are doing FINE on 6200 mgs of P a month.

Please!

[Guest guest]

Yes I saw that Lynne!! Poor ! Probably saying " just

a bunch of hot flashing maniacs talking " .

Obviously the E was NOT calming them down!

>

>

> Yes, Somers kept trying to scream how wonderful her book was and

got very

> defensive saying Wiley was only seven and a half pages in her

book. Wiley rolled

> her eyes and sneered. Schwartzbein rationally tried to explain

how sick

> most of the Wiley patients got.

>

> Drs Schwartzbein and Schwartz looked very healthy while Somers and

Wiley

> still look puffy with heavy makeup piled on. I don't know what's

the matter with

> Somers' lips or why the eyebrows are pulled so high. It was kind

of scary.

>

> At the end, when Larry King turned the CNN over to veteran

disaster

> correspondent, , he even looked scared. That was

the funny part.

>

> L.

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I agree with you Carol! THey needed a whole hour -- and Suzanne was

> only worried about her book sales. And her face looked TERRIBLE.

> SHe must have just come from botox shots. Why they had Wiley on

> there I have no idea. Her protocol was not discussed.

The whole thing was screwed up. And that poor guy, he was trying to

say that an estrodiol patch is bio-identical. He was not always taking

about Premarin. I wonder why Suzanne is so supportive of Wiley? And if

some of the other's tried Wiley and found it failed why were they so

afraid to admit it? Almost everyone seemed to be in agreement that

more studies need to be done. We are all trial cases. I'm going from

Dr to Dr thinking that someone knows definitely how to treat me and

they dont,coming away dissapointed each time. I want to write my own

book. I'm a researcher right. If Wiley can why can't I? Can I

interview you guys for my book, wait I have to get some botox

first.... Suzanne is like this guy Null, he takes everyone else's

research put's it in a book and makes a lot of money.

[Guest guest]

I didn't see the beginning of the show but watched the rest. I found

it quite irritating to say the least. I can't stand people who don't

have enough respect for others to let them have their say. Oh, my

hubby (with zero promting from me) thought TS looked horrible. Same

with Suzanne, but he said that when we were watching Suzanne last

time on LK hawking her book. The other 2 drs. looked very healthy,

in my opinion.

Liz

>

> Why Wiley was there ? Somers asked Larry that's how, - for

whatever reason she gave to Larry. It doesn't matter, that's PR

(for Wiley in this case), and Suzanne has a lot of expertise in it.

For one thing It doesn't cost Somers anything to use her power this

way, and it's not illegal....? You know that in this society,

everything is contacts and show business. And Suzie knows that, too.

Sorry I missed that show, but thanks for all your observations and

comments, which seem to be right-on!

> Cheereo, girls,

> Charlotte

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Larry King Tonight

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> I read Ageless just for fun. Suzanne says she and Suzie became

dear friends during the 2 years she took to get her hormones

straightened out. Maybe that is why she was on Larry King.

>

> Elsewhere in the book she says she needs a large amount of E and

very little P, so I don't know how she is doing the Wiley protocol

unless it changed somewhere along the line.

>

> nne

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> Why they had Wiley on

> there I have no idea. Her protocol was not discussed. But at

least

> it is getting out in the open. I want to know who these people

in

> Santa Barbara are that are doing FINE on 6200 mgs of P a month.

> Please!

>

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[Guest guest]

Well do you know what Suzanne's psuedonym is? $$omers

What a joke. Hey we were supportive of Wiley too at the beginning.

Until we all got sick and she told us we were nuts!

>

> >

Suzanne is like this guy Null, he takes everyone else's

> research put's it in a book and makes a lot of money.

>

[Guest guest]

Well she is certainly NOT doing the Wiley protocol then! Maybe out

of all of this, women will realize that to feel good, they need a

whole lot more of E!

>

> I read Ageless just for fun. Suzanne says she and Suzie became

dear friends

> during the 2 years she took to get her hormones straightened out.

Maybe that

> is why she was on Larry King.

>

> Elsewhere in the book she says she needs a large amount of E and

very little

> P, so I don't know how she is doing the Wiley protocol unless it

changed

> somewhere along the line.

>

> nne

>