Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Gayatri,I am just curious if your son happens to have homozygous ACE deletion, which seems to cause plaque deposition, salt and water retention, magnesium and potassium wasting, and abnormal clotting. All these symptoms increase the likelihood of a difficult blood draw.Limin Limin, thanks for letting me know. Well, we tried to get my son to give some blood but he wouldn't oblige. Still doesn't and nobody has anything to say about it. This was post OSR by the way. They get the vein and nothing comes out but a squirt. Finger prick bleeds and won't coagulate to stop bleeding. I don't understand it. I would love to know what all your results look like. Gayatri > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are 4 human retroviruses: HIV, HTLV I, HTLV II, and > > now > > > the new > > > > > > XMRV. Retroviruses mutate so that the immune system can't > > > memorize how > > > > > > to kill it, which is how it becomes effective. Also, since > > it's > > > > > > mutating, something that is killing it might be effective one > > > week, but > > > > > > not the next. Boy, that sounds familiar. Anyhow, we all know > > how > > > HIV > > > > > > takes out the t-cells, suppressing our immune systems until we > > > catch a > > > > > > bunch of pathogens and die (sorry for the honest truth). So, I > > > looked > > > > > > up these other retroviruses, since immune suppression is > > > definitely the > > > > > > problem in our children. Apparently, they also cause immune > > > > > > suppression. The HTLV II is not much of a problem, but the > > HTLV I > > > is > > > > > > definitely a problem, causing paralysis in about 3%, and > > various > > > other > > > > > > troubling symptoms in 50 to 75%. The word is that if you also > > > have > > > > > > other immune stressors, than you will become part of this 74%. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The XMRV is brand new, so not as much information on it, > > but it > > > also > > > > > > mutates, thus capable of immune suppression. So, I wonder if > > this > > > is > > > > > > why we use to could tolerate Lyme and Bartonella better in > > prior > > > > > > generations. We didn't also have retroviruses. But lets say > > you > > > have > > > > > > one of these retroviruses plus pleomorphic bacteria, the two > > > together > > > > > > would be a bad scenario. So far, they are finding most with > > > chronic > > > > > > fatigue as having this new XMRV, and 40% of those with > > autism. On > > > that > > > > > > note, my adopted girl has HTLV I on her Zyto with the number > > 70 by > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, these retroviruses just might be the reason some get a > > few > > > > > > symptoms from Lyme, Bartonella and mycoplasma as compared to > > some > > > > > > getting many symptoms. It's likely the combination of immune > > > > > > suppressing pathogens is the problem. So on this note, does > > > anyone have > > > > > > an ideas on how to kill retroviruses? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's an interesting website about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://aboutmecfs.org/Rsrch/XMRVPuppetMaster.aspx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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