Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Any one in the US of A that uses it I do not and I state that right up front. It is not that I am against it its just that tell my doctors can write me a DX for it and I can have it filled at any Pharmacy I will not but that is my choice. Why do I take this step? Well I take it for a very simple reason. It may be legal by some states and there laws. Not all only some as there are still many states that do not allow it and even one seed will send you into a world of trouble you do not want. I have not been there over any drug charges but have for other fed charges and its no fun belive me! Now in the states that do allow it there is one little bit of a problem if the feds happen to for what ever reason come onto your property and see it. well you now have a new set of problems as it is not legal under federal law at all. so we are back to one seed or tinny bit getting you into trouble even in a state were its legal. Now this is the problem under that case were legal in a state. If the feds go after you they can not charge you with a misdemeanor or any of the lesser charges as there all state charges so there option is to go after a full felony change and yes I know some one this happened to here in Calif. As a side note at lest here in the Fresno area there seams to be a movement to close down medical distribution places and this is even after Califtried and failed at passing a law to allow recreational usage. So my take is not tell legal by federal laws and tell then that is I would and will work to see things happen. now in my case if I had any at home or when my ex set me up I would have been in deeper doo doo then I was see at that time I did have the feds investigating me and then charge me for two counts of making illegal machine guns and two counts of possessing illegal machine guns. Now both charges were dropped in under 48 hours because I had fallowed all the laws under the ATF rule book. See I was a gun smith and I also was working on a gun design hopping to bring it to market as a retro fit legal for a world war two Sten gun. Because of all of this I sold my research to another person who did get final aprovel from the ATF and sold them. Any way had I had any plants or things lying around well the charges I was under plus the extra drug charges would have had me facing 60 years minimum and 3/4 of a million dollar fine again a minimum but both could have gone up from there as they were just the smallest I could get by law. Now as I said this is only for the people here in the US of A as other countries have deferent laws about this and there all over the books. also one last thing if you travel do not have any thing not even a seed with you as crossing state lines also gets you into big trouble. as I said not against it just to careful now days to use it because of what I did have to deal with that I never should have and now knowing that some times things can blind side you in life and they are never at a good time. I do believe there is much to be said about it and that is why I fully support it as a true medical drug and that it should be approved on the federal list of medical drugs not illegal drugs and I will work to see that happen were I can but tell then I will also caution people about the dangers of chousing to use also as we are all in a vulnerable state in our lives like it or not and few if any of us have the inner strength with this illness to fight some thing like this. I know I did not and by fallowing the law to every dotted I and every t crossed I did not have to lucky. Off my soap box for now and to ones that use last word do not advertise it for your own sake but that is now a personal opinion from this redneck. Hugs ya all The Redneck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Good Morning Brother and All! Hey, very good post, man! I am full agreement with ya on all points! I hear ya about the strong arm of the government where your guns, and our Constitutional Rights, are concerned.....we really must be careful in the usage of anything. One more caution.....I used to carry my pain meds in a plain little pill carrier (mine was a very small metal " can " ). I even bought it in my pharmacy. Well, not long after i started carrying my pills this way, i had a very interesting conversation with one of ny patients. He was telling me how he had been busted by local deputies for carrying illegaly prescription drugs with no patient identifier on the container. He was using a similar carrier to mine! When he got of JAIL later that day, he was able to prove the meds were his by taking in the prescription bottle. Did not matter....law enforcement did not drop the charges and he went through hell in the courts and spent alot of money in lawyer and court fees....AND....the biggest BS is that he now has a FELONY charge on his record even though he received no jail time....but was fined! It was all really stupid! Sooooooooo, now i carry my prescription bottles whenever i need to take my meds with me! So another thing to be aware of! Like you said, Marty, none of us has the energy or overall health to even face something like either of these situations! Thanks for sharing with us Marty! In this area, like you said, you can literally get a shorter sentence for killing someone than you can for having a blasted POT SEED! Ya'll take care and may God's Blessings be upon you all! Larry B. from NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Larry thanks I completely forgot about the caring of our meds . I also use a small container for mine and put a weeks worth in it. makes it easier for me to remember to take them. Now every now and then I forget to also take my bottles with me and so far I have been okay but you are right and even thou I have never been warned about this my mother has been by her pharmacist. As I said before its better to avoid trouble then look for it. If the powers that be decide they want to go after you it is a nightmare The Redneck Marty G " ________________________________ Subject: Re: Marjuinia for medical use warnnings weather you use or not ......i had a very interesting conversation with one of ny patients. He was telling me how he had been busted by local deputies for carrying illegaly prescription drugs with no patient identifier on the container. He was using a similar carrier to mine! When he got of JAIL later that day, he was able to prove the meds were his by taking in the prescription bottle. Did not matter....law enforcement did not drop the charges and he went through hell in the courts and spent alot of money in lawyer and court fees....AND....the biggest BS is that he now has a FELONY charge on his record ....Larry B. from NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 That is ridiculous! What about people that wear patches? Do you also have to carry around your box of Fentanyl with the script on it? On another note I wanted to say that I smoke pot and it is the only thing that helps me with nausea. In Canada, we can get a prescription for it and the government sends it to you but their stuff is lousy so most people get a license to grow and carry. I was just recently diagnosed with Still's involving my stomach now too. They biopsied tissue from my stomach and that is the conclusion. I haven't been online since Christmas time because of being so sick but am getting better day by day. I have since switched all meds to liquids - they taste like crap but do the trick. Now it is up to the Kineret and MTX to actually kick in and stop the progression. I say do what works for you because it seems that we are merely guinea pigs anyway! Most dr.s have never even heard of Still's let alone know how to deal with us... Keep smiling, Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Hay there Marty; Yes you have your opnion about the drug. I am not worried about the Fed's at all. You have had contact with them for your reasons and I guess that might make me be a little uneasy to have it in your home or growing plants for your medical use. I in no way think I would go to federal Prison for my medical use . Yes there are many people that think it is a very Bad drug and want the medical clinics shut down. There is alway oposition for many laws. It helped my Mom and it helps me and so many other people that use it for medical use. To get a medical card from a doctor ( unless he is a fraud doctor) is hard to get. I knew this topic would have it's Pro's and Con's . I am sure if you were not afriad of the Fed's you might use it. Your opinion is ok by me . The invester that is putting up the money for his clinic has 3 clinic's now and it is a non-profit and --people that need it and can't afford it will get it free-- Just think if the Fed's went around and picked up all the medical users and put them in Jail--- I think not. Would not happen. The Gov. can't even stop the flow of the drug to this country and the people that use it that are not medical users. No worries on my end. ----- Forwarded Message ---- To: Stillsdisease Sent: Sun, March 27, 2011 11:18:14 PM Subject: Marjuinia for medical use warnnings weather you use or not   Any one in the US of A that uses it I do not and I state that right up front. It is not that I am against it its just that tell my doctors can write me a DX for it and I can have it filled at any Pharmacy I will not but that is my choice.  Why do I take this step?  Well I take it for a very simple reason. It may be legal by some states and there laws. Not all only some as there are still many states that do not allow it and even one seed will send you into a world of trouble you do not want. I have not been there over any drug charges but have for other fed charges and its no fun belive me!   Now in the states that do allow it there is one little bit of a problem if the feds happen to for what ever reason come onto your property and see it. well you now have a new set of problems as it is not legal under federal law at all. so we are back to one seed or tinny bit getting you into trouble even in a state were its legal. Now this is the problem under that case were legal in a state. If the feds go after you they can not charge you with a misdemeanor or any of the lesser charges as there all state charges so there option is to go after a full felony change and yes I know some one this happened to here in Calif. As a side note at lest here in the Fresno area there seams to be a movement to close down medical distribution places and this is even after Califtried and failed at passing a law to allow recreational usage.   So my take is not tell legal by federal laws and tell then that is I would and will work to see things happen. now in my case if I had any at home or when my ex set me up I would have been in deeper doo doo then I was see at that time I did have the feds investigating me and then charge me for two counts of making illegal machine guns and two counts of possessing illegal machine guns. Now both charges were dropped in under 48 hours because I had fallowed all the laws under the ATF rule book. See I was a gun smith and I also was working on a gun design hopping to bring it to market as a retro fit legal for a world war two Sten gun. Because of all of this I sold my research to another person who did get final aprovel from the ATF and sold them. Any way had I had any plants or things lying around well the charges I was under plus the extra drug charges would have had me facing 60 years minimum and 3/4 of a million dollar fine again a minimum but both could have gone up from there as they were just the smallest I could get by law.   Now as I said this is only for the people here in the US of A as other countries have deferent laws about this and there all over the books. also one last thing if you travel do not have any thing not even a seed with you as crossing state lines also gets you into big trouble.  as I said not against it just to careful now days to use it because of what I did have to deal with that I never should have and now knowing that some times things can blind side you in life and they are never at a good time. I do believe there is much to be said about it and that is why I fully support it as a true medical drug and that it should be approved on the federal list of medical drugs not illegal drugs and I will work to see that happen were I can but tell then I will also caution people about the dangers of chousing to use also as we are all in a vulnerable state in our lives like it or not and few if any of us have the inner strength with this illness to fight some thing like this. I know I did not and by fallowing the law to every dotted I and every t crossed I did not have to lucky.  Off my soap box for now and to ones that use last word do not advertise it for your own sake but that is now a personal opinion from this redneck. Hugs ya all  The  Redneck  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Glad you agree with me Beth.Good to here it helps you.  Hope you get a good hour or day soon. You sound very sick and may God Bless you and give you good health. GARY ----- Forwarded Message ---- To: Stillsdisease Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 12:51:32 PM Subject: Re: Marjuinia for medical use warnnings weather you use or not  That is ridiculous! What about people that wear patches? Do you also have to carry around your box of Fentanyl with the script on it? On another note I wanted to say that I smoke pot and it is the only thing that helps me with nausea. In Canada, we can get a prescription for it and the government sends it to you but their stuff is lousy so most people get a license to grow and carry. I was just recently diagnosed with Still's involving my stomach now too. They biopsied tissue from my stomach and that is the conclusion. I haven't been online since Christmas time because of being so sick but am getting better day by day. I have since switched all meds to liquids - they taste like crap but do the trick. Now it is up to the Kineret and MTX to actually kick in and stop the progression. I say do what works for you because it seems that we are merely guinea pigs anyway! Most dr.s have never even heard of Still's let alone know how to deal with us... Keep smiling, Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Now guy's; I take my little pill box with me all the time and don't worry about the Cop's at all. What; I am going to go to the gro. store and take a bag of 10 bottles if pills?????? I don't think so. GARY ----- Forwarded Message ---- To: Stillsdisease Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 9:58:39 AM Subject: Re: Marjuinia for medical use warnnings weather you use or not  Larry  thanks I completely forgot about the caring of our meds . I also use a small container for mine and put a weeks worth in it. makes it easier for me to remember to take them. Now every now and then I forget to also take my bottles with me and so far I have been okay but you are right and even thou I have never been warned about this my mother has been by her pharmacist. As I said before its better to avoid trouble then look for it. If the powers that be decide they want to go after you it is a nightmare The  Redneck  Marty G       " ________________________________ Subject: Re: Marjuinia for medical use warnnings weather you use or not  ......i had a very interesting conversation with one of ny patients. He was telling me how he had been busted by local deputies for carrying illegaly prescription drugs with no patient identifier on the container. He was using a similar carrier to mine!    When he got of JAIL later that day, he was able to prove the meds were his by taking in the prescription bottle. Did not matter....law enforcement did not drop the charges and he went through hell in the courts and spent alot of money in lawyer and court fees....AND....the biggest BS is that he now has a FELONY charge on his record ....Larry B. from NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 I would be like you and not haul my 11 plus bottles with me for that but then again I would already be considered DUI (driving under the influence) if I were to drive there most of the time any how . what I meant was more about any travail at lest for my part like when I do go see my mom or a close friend and spend a few days there . When I do that normally I do not need to take all my bottles as the pill holder has more then enough room for them but after the crud I did have to seal with I am also gun shy now also. back then I was one sick puppy and had only 45 cents to my name when I went threw it all and I had no one to help me as in support emotionally but my son and I kept him out of it the best O could as he was only 17 then. now days I do not have much more free cash to spend but I do have a ton more emotional support and some that would stand there with me not against me like last time. the real sad part is the only real help I got back then was from the ATF agent and there not known for being the best of friends in things like that so to ever have to face it again no thank you but then that is my personal call and what others do is there personal call also. my only point is two fold 1) it you chose to go a certain way then do so fully informed and know all the possibility's of it 2) do not broad cast it as ya never know who may be reading any of this or who may have and they say some thing to some one other. its all a personal call and that is also how it should be treated personally and not like i said broad casted as no reason to open a can of worms if you do not have to and any way there better on a hook used for bait then making a mess of some thing that could have been avoided. ya I am an old opinionated fart also besides being a redneck LMAO best to ya all The Redneck Marty G ________________________________ Now guy's; I take my little pill box with me all the time and don't worry about the Cop's at all. What; I am going to go to the gro. store and take a bag of 10 bottles if pills?????? I don't think so. GARY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Beth   Glad you jumped in as you give a perfect example of how the laws from one country to the next can defer. In your country you can get it from the government were here in the US of A the Government will bust you for it. Just like in some countries you can get antibiotics over the counter but there is no way here in the USyou can do that. Now is that a good thing or a bad thing? Well there is both good and bad points for each side in that argument just like any other kind of medical drug argument. Then you have other country's that getting caught with it will get you a very very long prison sentence and still others were you could get a death sentence because of it. your lucky as in Canada it is one way for the country as a whole but here in the US for example there are 50 different entities saying what is and is not okay with one big guy standing over them all saying “so what I still say no and that’s all that matters if I put my foot downâ€. And that is just two of the many countries represented here. I do know some times we find it easy to kind of forget that as I do it all the time. Heck even some of the wording we each use carry deferent meanings depending were you’re at. What I would like to see is some from say European countries and then the other side Asian country speak out along with our friends down under. That would give a real global view of things instead of our own little back yard peck. Hugs ya all The  Redneck  Marty G     Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 as I said I am not against it at all I just am gun shy after what I did have to deal with and know what adding more to it would have meant and still could because of what I have to still carry tell I can find the cash to go back to court and get the whole thing expunged but that only closes it to the public as the coppers well they seam to still have there ways. I also believe that any one that is thinking about it needs to be fully informed about it both the positives and the possible negatives it could bring into there lives. it really is no different then the warning labels they put on all our medication bottles about driving drinking being in the sun and so on. we read them and then decide what gables we are willing to take for our self's and that's all I am doing when I bring out the what and how you still can be busted for it even in a state were its legal here in the US. Also when I speak of laws and or possibility's it refers only to here in the US and no other country as they just like us have there own laws and do there own thing. Some depending on the case are better and some are worse. but hey I am a smoker and living in Calif I am made to feel as a second class person now days so may be I should change my smoke and fit in better after all I do have a broken in corn cob pipe that could hold a good bowl full LMAO. hugs and me best to ya all. The Redneck Marty G " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 I here Ya my Friend; Good post . No harm,  just a good Debate. I am still with Ya, as we are Rednecks of a kind. I respect your position on the subject. Now when I took a plan trip to see my Mom , yes I took all my bottles as you do. If I am going to be on a extended trip I will always take all my Med bottles. Marty , I hopr you get a good few hours or a few days of relief. But most of all I Pray you get remmision , and all others with this crazy illness. GARY ----- Forwarded Message ---- To: Stillsdisease Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 2:03:37 AM Subject: Re: Marjuinia for medical use warnnings weather you use or not   I would be like you and not haul my 11 plus bottles with me for that but then again I would already be considered DUI (driving under the influence) if I were to drive there most of the time any how . what I meant was more about any travail at lest for my part like when I do go see my mom or a close friend and spend a few days there . When I do that normally I do not need to take all my bottles as the pill holder has more then enough room for them but after the crud I did have to seal with I am also gun shy now also. back then I was one sick puppy and had only 45 cents to my name when I went threw it all and I had no one to help me as in support emotionally but my son and I kept him out of it the best O could as he was only 17 then. now days I do not have much more free cash to spend but I do have a ton more emotional support and some that would stand there with me not against me like last time. the real sad part is the only real help I got back then was from the ATF agent and there not known for being the best of friends in things like that so to ever have to face it again no thank you but then that is my personal call and what others do is there personal call also. my only point is two fold 1) it you chose to go a certain way then do so fully informed and know all the possibility's of it 2) do not broad cast it as ya never know who may be reading any of this or who may have and they say some thing to some one other. its all a personal call and that is also how it should be treated personally and not like i said broad casted as no reason to open a can of worms if you do not have to and any way there better on a hook used for bait then making a mess of some thing that could have been avoided.  ya I am an old opinionated fart also besides being a redneck LMAO best to ya all The  Redneck  Marty G       ________________________________  Now guy's; I take my little pill box with me all the time and don't worry about the Cop's at all. What; I am going to go to the gro. store and take a bag of 10 bottles if pills?????? I don't think so. GARY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Thanks all...today joyfully is a good day : ) Just to clarify about the law here...Possession of a narcotic without a " license " is a federal offense which in turn causes alot of headaches. Criminal record - no passport and no entry in many countries, the U.S. of A. being number one! The licensing is also not as easy as it sounds as there are three differant (probably 30 pages in each) forms that have to be filled out by dr. and yourself and you can apply for differant types of licenses. I am unsure what happens typically if one is busted while waiting for approval tho. Our law enforcement seems to be less obtrusive if you are sick where they may (notice I used the word may!) turn a blind eye so to speak. Locally, we have a fellow who has his own business helping people apply for licenses and generally advocates for his clients! He is applying for a dispensary license as well. The worse part for anyone that uses medicinal is the risk of obtaining without a license. Some argue that once you get the license you've now invited the cops in monthly to make sure that you only have what your supposed to. Of course, the whole Big Brother concept applies as well. My hope is that it will be controlled in the same manner as any prescription. You could work out with your dr the frequency (limitting the dosage would be tricky due to the many varying types of dope out there) but an example could be 1 joint every 3 hours. This is what we do for other meds...constant tweaking until we get it right. Hoping this is of some use... Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011  Beth  Thanks for that info. You and I are not far apart if at all on what we would like to see in the end in both of our countries. For me it would be walk into your doc’s office and they give you a RX for it then you take it to say Rite Aid or Walgreen’s maybe even Wal - Mart to have it filled. That would be the end game I want to see here at lest.  Now a sad story here a person was growing for them self fallowing the state law some one breaks in robs them or try’s to the owner shot them and believe it or not he is the one in all the trouble now. And yes the feds here are now also charging him and the bad part is he used a gun protecting his grow and home plus self. So his fed charges are no enhanced because he used a gun. bad guy gets nothing but a bit of lead poisoning and walks away the home owner is now in a world that he never believed he would find him self as he fallowed the law to the tea. any hoot this is why I firmly believe the state to state mix of laws are a joke here and open you to a book of trouble were working to get it approved federally ends a lot of that but as you pointed out with all the paper work big brother dose not like to be cut out of things so the keep there thumb in it some how and some way always. Heck they do this with our every day meds here it is why some of us in the USAhave trouble getting pain meds. Been down that road also could not get them because the doc was to afraid of big brother looking over there shoulder at there every RX. any hoot thanks again for the fallow up info as I said knowledge is what is best as it really is a personal call and the better informed one is the better call they can make no matter were or what country they live in just do not mix one countries laws and mistake them for another as that is bad ju ju Hugs   The  Redneck  Marty G     Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 OK People; This will be my last post on the subject of Medical Marjuinia . Let's say one is taking a drug for Stills, or for that matter any illness (and there are many, and there are, many illness and drugs) and this drug was legal in your State and this drug gives you a great amount of relief. Now the Fed's don't like the State Law ( There is talk in Capital Hill to Legelize Pot) . That being said, would you continue to take the drug that makes a differance in your life i.e. being able to walk around the block and move around the house better , get good sleep ect. . I pose the question , would you take the State legal drug or worry about the Fed's and not take the legal drug that just changed your pain level lower and gave you a better life ??????? I hope all have a good day !!!! GARY ----- Forwarded Message ---- To: Stillsdisease Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 11:41:48 AM Subject: Re: Re: Marjuinia for medical use warnnings weather you use or not   Beth  Thanks for that info. You and I are not far apart if at all on what we would like to see in the end in both of our countries. For me it would be walk into your doc’s office and they give you a RX for it then you take it to say Rite Aid or Walgreen’s maybe even Wal - Mart to have it filled. That would be the end game I want to see here at lest.  Now a sad story here a person was growing for them self fallowing the state law some one breaks in robs them or try’s to the owner shot them and believe it or not he is the one in all the trouble now. And yes the feds here are now also charging him and the bad part is he used a gun protecting his grow and home plus self. So his fed charges are no enhanced because he used a gun. bad guy gets nothing but a bit of lead poisoning and walks away the home owner is now in a world that he never believed he would find him self as he fallowed the law to the tea. any hoot this is why I firmly believe the state to state mix of laws are a joke here and open you to a book of trouble were working to get it approved federally ends a lot of that but as you pointed out with all the paper work big brother dose not like to be cut out of things so the keep there thumb in it some how and some way always. Heck they do this with our every day meds here it is why some of us in the USAhave trouble getting pain meds. Been down that road also could not get them because the doc was to afraid of big brother looking over there shoulder at there every RX. any hoot thanks again for the fallow up info as I said knowledge is what is best as it really is a personal call and the better informed one is the better call they can make no matter were or what country they live in just do not mix one countries laws and mistake them for another as that is bad ju ju Hugs   The  Redneck  Marty G     Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011  I will bite and this will also be my last post on this for this round as it dose come up now and then  I would not take it but then again that is how I run my life I do not preach one thing and do another. this is why I never told my kids not to smoke or not to ever do the weed as they knew from me I had. I learned from my parents and grandparents the best way to show is to do as you speak. this also was the greatest lesson my own father showed me when he also said no to this very same question even tho it was asked before it was state legal. as he state racked in pain from his cancer almost unable to eat and every movement hurting him. I asked him if he wanted some as we both knew what they said about it. he said no that may not have been the best answer and or thing for him but I know that it was more for me then him as he enforced one more of his life lessons on me even as his life was entering its sunset days. it also was a lesson I have never forgotten nor is it one I forget to also pass on to my own kids. Fact is my own son has asked me this same question in a way and he did get the same answer as I have posted here. he thanked me for being honest with him and said that it meant more to him then I would ever know but he is still to young to understand that I know down the line some day if he is lucky a little boy may ask him that same thing and I am willing to bet he will say the same thing his grandpa and dad said and that eases the pain in my heart of losing him many years ago and now of not being able to see him in over three years .    The  Redneck  Marty G      I watch the sands of time run threw the hour glass of my life knowing I can not change what has passed. All I can do is live for today and hope for tomorrow and that it's a better day then the one I am leavening here today As I move into the one filled with hope that’s called tomorrow. Marty G 3/29/2011 To learn more about Stills Disease or to make a tax deductible donation:  http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info  ________________________________ Subject: Fw: Re: Marjuinia for medical use warnnings weather you use or not  OK People; This will be my last post on the subject of Medical Marjuinia . Let's say one is taking a drug for Stills, or for that matter any illness (and there are many, and there are, many illness and drugs) and this drug was legal in your State and this drug gives you a great amount of relief. Now the Fed's don't like the State Law ( There is talk in Capital Hill to Legelize Pot) . That being said, would you continue to take the drug that makes a differance in your life i.e. being able to walk around the block and move around the house better , get good sleep ect. . I pose the question , would you take the State legal drug or worry about the Fed's and not take the legal drug that just changed your pain level lower and gave you a better life ??????? I hope all have a good day !!!! GARY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Good post Marty. I Respect you and I am sure you are a good man and Father. I wish only the best for you, as in God's eye we are brothers. I Pray you have some good days and go into remmision. We will move on and see what God has for us each next day ! I still say " U Da Man " Bass Nut ! GARY ----- Forwarded Message ---- To: Stillsdisease Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 3:02:01 PM Subject: Re: Re: Marjuinia for medical use warnnings weather you use or not   I will bite and this will also be my last post on this for this round as it dose come up now and then  I would not take it but then again that is how I run my life I do not preach one thing and do another. this is why I never told my kids not to smoke or not to ever do the weed as they knew from me I had. I learned from my parents and grandparents the best way to show is to do as you speak. this also was the greatest lesson my own father showed me when he also said no to this very same question even tho it was asked before it was state legal. as he state racked in pain from his cancer almost unable to eat and every movement hurting him. I asked him if he wanted some as we both knew what they said about it. he said no that may not have been the best answer and or thing for him but I know that it was more for me then him as he enforced one more of his life lessons on me even as his life was entering its sunset days. it also was a lesson I have never forgotten nor is it one I forget to also pass on to my own kids. Fact is my own son has asked me this same question in a way and he did get the same answer as I have posted here. he thanked me for being honest with him and said that it meant more to him then I would ever know but he is still to young to understand that I know down the line some day if he is lucky a little boy may ask him that same thing and I am willing to bet he will say the same thing his grandpa and dad said and that eases the pain in my heart of losing him many years ago and now of not being able to see him in over three years .    The  Redneck  Marty G      I watch the sands of time run threw the hour glass of my life knowing I can not change what has passed. All I can do is live for today and hope for tomorrow and that it's a better day then the one I am leavening here today As I move into the one filled with hope that’s called tomorrow. Marty G 3/29/2011 To learn more about Stills Disease or to make a tax deductible donation:  http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info  ________________________________ Subject: Fw: Re: Marjuinia for medical use warnnings weather you use or not  OK People; This will be my last post on the subject of Medical Marjuinia . Let's say one is taking a drug for Stills, or for that matter any illness (and there are many, and there are, many illness and drugs) and this drug was legal in your State and this drug gives you a great amount of relief. Now the Fed's don't like the State Law ( There is talk in Capital Hill to Legelize Pot) . That being said, would you continue to take the drug that makes a differance in your life i.e. being able to walk around the block and move around the house better , get good sleep ect. . I pose the question , would you take the State legal drug or worry about the Fed's and not take the legal drug that just changed your pain level lower and gave you a better life ??????? I hope all have a good day !!!! GARY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 thanks and I am glad you found this sight also as you do add a lot to it at lest from my way of looking at it and its also fun to debate and walk away with out bruising and still hold a friendship with respect. Stills is a destroyer of life's as so many of us know but when coming here I find this sight to be a builder of hope and friendship unlike any I have known in my life before. after all if we can not share here no matter how different we may see things then were can we because I know for me at lest this is the one place I can come and know I will be excepted for me and if need be even get a boot in the butt to help me straighten up and yes that has been done a time or two also and I am glad that it was a I needed it more then I know then but the ones that did it had been there done that and knew a good swift boot could help start things off right LMAO okay I started it the corrected the direction hugs The  Redneck  Marty G      I watch the sands of time run threw the hour glass of my life knowing I can not change what has passed. All I can do is live for today and hope for tomorrow and that it's a better day then the one I am leavening here today As I move into the one filled with hope that’s called tomorrow. Marty G 3/29/2011 To learn more about Stills Disease or to make a tax deductible donation:  http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Well said Marty; I am Glad you are on the site. I am not Glad you are here because you are sick. You give a diverse look at us and we need someone like you that can hit the Mark for someone when needed. I am sure you have helped many people here as I have been here a short time I can read into people there compassion for others. There is a lot of compassion here and you my Friend give to this group. GARY ----- Forwarded Message ---- To: Stillsdisease Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 10:49:09 PM Subject: Re: Re: Marjuinia for medical use warnnings weather you use or not  thanks and I am glad you found this sight also as you do add a lot to it at lest from my way of looking at it and its also fun to debate and walk away with out bruising and still hold a friendship with respect. Stills is a destroyer of life's as so many of us know but when coming here I find this sight to be a builder of hope and friendship unlike any I have known in my life before. after all if we can not share here no matter how different we may see things then were can we because I know for me at lest this is the one place I can come and know I will be excepted for me and if need be even get a boot in the butt to help me straighten up and yes that has been done a time or two also and I am glad that it was a I needed it more then I know then but the ones that did it had been there done that and knew a good swift boot could help start things off right LMAO okay I started it the corrected the direction hugs The  Redneck  Marty G      I watch the sands of time run threw the hour glass of my life knowing I can not change what has passed. All I can do is live for today and hope for tomorrow and that it's a better day then the one I am leavening here today As I move into the one filled with hope that’s called tomorrow. Marty G 3/29/2011 To learn more about Stills Disease or to make a tax deductible donation:  http://www.stillsdisease.org/stills_info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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