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Group, Some time ago, someone posted that their doctor put them on human growth hormone shots. Would like to correspond with that person, if possible. Email me at bzarn@... and tell me the why and what your experience has been since taking this. Thanks Carol Zarn/Piney/Canada Dermatomyositis oct94 AP june98

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I just started on HGH 10 days ago, low dose, .5 I.U. to start. I

don't feel and different. I did catch a bad cold and kicked it in

three days. Maybe that means my system is in good shape, not sure. I

just want to be in optimum health for a 62 year old guy.

> Gents, have any of you taken any HGH, in hopes of some amazing

> changes in your body? If so what did you experience. What are the

> positive effects and are there any negative affects. I have heard

> that HGH gives one a more youthful bodily system. Thanks, of

> Jax Fl

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You need a prescription from a physician to get Human Growth

Hormone...

K4

>

> > Also, the anti-aging folks recommend use of HGH. Has anyone tried

and

> > what were the results?

>

> I bought 500IU of HGH and have used around 100IU so far.

> The first few weeks @ 1IU a night were very amazing.

> Much better sleep, old injuries were getting fixed (it feels like

that) Skin

> improved, wrinkles went away, energy up, losing fat fast, hair got

thicker,

> less thin and dry. At first it felt like it worked in connjuction

with

> Testosterone, made the test last longer.

>

> Tried 1IU, 2IU all the way up the 6IU a day, then i have been off a

few

> weeks and still feel like it is working, it is real wonderful.

>

> Now the bad news:

>

> 1. It can cost $8.00 or more a IU

> 2. It has to be injected sub-q.

> 3. The real benefit is from long term use.

>

> Some other points:

>

> Some say it should be only used at night , to piggy back on your

natural

> production which happens in REM sleep.

>

> Some say to only take it in the day as then you get it both day and

night.

>

> Some say to use it at 1IU forever, some say use large amounts for

short

> times to better act like a pulse. This is to reset the dial higher

so your

> body will now sense the drop as you stop and crank up more of it's

own.

> Cycle it, like testosterone cycles, so that your pititary does not

calcify.

>

> Some say that it repairs the HPTA or just the hypothalamus.

>

> I can say that it is the best money i have spent.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> Where did you obtain it?

You need a rx from a doctor.

But even more important you need to get your igf-1 tested.

That will tell you if it even should be used.

If your doctor is not up on all this then you can find many web

sites that sell it. They will need to test igf-1 before they will

give you a rx for it. Some insurance will not cover it so it

would be out of pocket and a major expense. only the injectible

HGH is real.

You can increase your natural production with REM sleep and

enough protein in the diet. There might be other things out there

that help, but 99% of them are a rip-off.

There are risks to using HGH, you need to get all your blood

work in order before, as it may help cancer grow in some people.

If you have low or real low igf-1 levels, it will help a great deal.

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Thanks for the info .

What were your IGF1 levels prior to treatment? (and what was the

scale),

Also, do you know what they are now?

Armyguy

> >

> > Where did you obtain it?

>

>

> You need a rx from a doctor.

>

> But even more important you need to get your igf-1 tested.

>

> That will tell you if it even should be used.

>

> If your doctor is not up on all this then you can find many web

> sites that sell it. They will need to test igf-1 before they will

> give you a rx for it. Some insurance will not cover it so it

> would be out of pocket and a major expense. only the injectible

> HGH is real.

>

> You can increase your natural production with REM sleep and

> enough protein in the diet. There might be other things out there

> that help, but 99% of them are a rip-off.

>

> There are risks to using HGH, you need to get all your blood

> work in order before, as it may help cancer grow in some people.

>

> If you have low or real low igf-1 levels, it will help a great

deal.

>

>

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> > >

> > > Where did you obtain it?

> >

> >

> > You need a rx from a doctor.

> >

> > But even more important you need to get your igf-1 tested.

> >

> > That will tell you if it even should be used.

> >

> > If your doctor is not up on all this then you can find many web

> > sites that sell it. They will need to test igf-1 before they will

> > give you a rx for it. Some insurance will not cover it so it

> > would be out of pocket and a major expense. only the injectible

> > HGH is real.

> >

> > You can increase your natural production with REM sleep and

> > enough protein in the diet. There might be other things out there

> > that help, but 99% of them are a rip-off.

> >

> > There are risks to using HGH, you need to get all your blood

> > work in order before, as it may help cancer grow in some people.

> >

> > If you have low or real low igf-1 levels, it will help a great

> deal.

> >

> >

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I might also add that there is now substatial evidence that high

growth hormone levels dramatically increase the risk for certain

types of cancer (deadly ones at that). Predominant among these is

colon cancer. Amazingly, they have found that taller people are more

predisposed to these cancers than shorter people. This large scale,

long-term study was conducted by Harvard Medical School.

If you have normal levels of ANY hormone, I would suggest you leave

well enough alone. We don't have enough research yet to know what is

safe and what isn't.

Regards,

K4

> >

> > Where did you obtain it?

>

>

> You need a rx from a doctor.

>

> But even more important you need to get your igf-1 tested.

>

> That will tell you if it even should be used.

>

> If your doctor is not up on all this then you can find many web

> sites that sell it. They will need to test igf-1 before they will

> give you a rx for it. Some insurance will not cover it so it

> would be out of pocket and a major expense. only the injectible

> HGH is real.

>

> You can increase your natural production with REM sleep and

> enough protein in the diet. There might be other things out there

> that help, but 99% of them are a rip-off.

>

> There are risks to using HGH, you need to get all your blood

> work in order before, as it may help cancer grow in some people.

>

> If you have low or real low igf-1 levels, it will help a great deal.

>

>

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Well gang I'm about to give up trying to find a doc to help me with LOW T ( I

think ). The VA wants to try drugs for depression ! Thanks to this group I know

that's not unusual but it's also not the cure.

Have any of you tried HGH ? Has it helped normalize hormone levels AND HAS IT

CURED THE THE " damn near dead " fatigued feeling?

TIA, Bill B (meyerflyer)

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>

>

>

>

> Well gang I'm about to give up trying to find a doc to help me with

LOW T ( I think ). The VA wants to try drugs for depression ! Thanks

to this group I know that's not unusual but it's also not the cure.

>

> Have any of you tried HGH ? Has it helped normalize hormone levels

AND HAS IT CURED THE THE " damn near dead " fatigued feeling?

>

> TIA, Bill B (meyerflyer)

>

>

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If you can't get the VA Dr.'s to treat you then go to a reg. Dr. and get some

help.

If you can't some here does know how to get the VA to take care of you I can't

remember who he was.

Phil

Bill Bleasdale <kingsmill@...> wrote:

Well gang I'm about to give up trying to find a doc to help me with LOW T ( I

think ). The VA wants to try drugs for depression ! Thanks to this group I know

that's not unusual but it's also not the cure.

Have any of you tried HGH ? Has it helped normalize hormone levels AND HAS IT

CURED THE THE " damn near dead " fatigued feeling?

TIA, Bill B (meyerflyer)

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Be very careful about HGH.....if you do some research, you might find

that there is some controversy surrounding it. I was also told that I

needed to go on it and take injections, but I refused. I am glad I

did. I never have to wonder if I took something that might have

harmed me. While I have heard both good things and bad about HGH, my

credo is to be better safe than sorry. I have to wonder about the

long term results...it would be tragic if it actually contributed to

higher cancer rates in the end.

Patty

> Update on my health:

>

> I am taking Cymbalta for fibromyalgia. The doctor saw me the other

day and he is having me see an endocrinologist to test my HGH. If it

stimulates, then it is ok....but if not, then I may have to go on low

doses. He says I am like an old woman with my low levels. I will

keep you updated on my guinea pig status.

>

> Al

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Start your day with - make it your home page

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In a message dated 1/19/2006 4:12:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, CLANDAU@... writes:

Dr. Lawrence recommends GABA, which I believe is human growth hormone, for spasticity: a teaspoon of the powder dissolved in a little water or 500 mg daily.

GABA is not HgH - human growth hormone.

mjh"The Basil Book"http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

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In a message dated 1/19/2006 9:31:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, wensubar@... writes:

ok since I submitted the original question.....Whatis GABA?

Here's a couple of links on GABA

http://apu.sfn.org/content/Publications/BrainBriefings/epilepsy.html

http://web.indstate.edu/thcme/mwking/nerves.html#gaba

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GABA

HgH is an injectable prescription drug, Genotropin

http://www.antiaginggroup.com/index.cfm/id/418.html

mjh"The Basil Book"http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

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ok since I submitted the original question.....What

is GABA?

--- foxhillers@... wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 1/19/2006 4:12:35 PM Eastern

> Standard Time,

> CLANDAU@... writes:

>

> Dr. Lawrence recommends GABA, which I believe is

> human growth hormone, for

> spasticity: a teaspoon of the powder dissolved in a

> little water or 500 mg

> daily.

>

>

>

>

> GABA is not HgH - human growth hormone.

>

> mjh

> " The Basil Book "

> http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

>

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Tomorrow I add HGH to what I am already taking which is:

Arimidex

HCG

Testosterone CYP

Anyone else out there taking all these at the same time?

The Arimidex/HCG/Testosterone has been great for my libido but still have a

lot of fatigue and joint pain. Part of that may be I wake up a lot during the

night and never feel reseted in the morning. Next month will be going for an

overnight at the hospital to check for apnea. From what indicated good

sleep is one of the benefits of HGH, might just be what I need. I've

mentioned before that the dr I go to takes these also. He is in his 60's and

every time I see him he looks younger and more physically fit.

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

My IGF-1 test came back at 138 range 71 - 290 I hope my Dr. after my next test

puts me on it. What kind of spots were you having on your legs. I have a rash

on my califs in the same area that never goes away it keeps comming back. I did

read that HGH will bring up ones immune system at a few Anti-ageing sites. Did

your Dr. put you one this.

Phil

theta_2k <pohare@...> wrote:

Hi all,

Lots of talk about HGH, hope my input can be of value.

Started HGH over two years ago and have used it on and off at different amounts

and

injection schedules. Also my wife is on it and a very good friend.

My igf-1 blood test came back at 140 range 90-360 for 40-45 year old male. The

range

for a 16-24 year old male is 202-957.

After six months on and a couple of weeks off my blood test came back at 280.

The first shot of HGH for me was quite amazing in that it put me into a

wonderful deep

sleep like i was a child once more. I could tell my body was in love with this

stuff.

Here are the things HGH fixed in my body: many numb spots/patches on my legs and

feet

and heels went away, feeling came back all the way. Stiff ankles from twists,

breaks and

wear and tear returned to normal and no pain. No weather related stiffness or

soreness

anymore. Same for my wife and friend. in fact my friend called to say that she

was walking

around the house not wearing any shoes first time in 40 years due to both feet

being

broke in a motorcycle accident at the age of 20. She has pins and fused feet and

was in

consent pain, now no pain and she can walk barefoot. General feeling of well

being, hard

to describe... better eyesight, skin. Skin tags falling off my wife, moles

shrinking, some

weight loss at first.

The view on using HGH goes like this, when you first start using HGH, inject at

bedtime, as

long as it helps you sleep, inject at bedtime. At some point in time it will

keep you awake,

that is when you switch to morning or daytime injections. Not sure why, some

people

think it is heavy repair needed so it knocks you out till all the repair is

done. That can take

months.

The injection schedule is wide open, some people say 7 days a week, other 5 on 2

off, well

the best way once you switch to daytime injections is a hour before a workout. I

perfer

every other day for a few months then off till my feet start to hurt. If you

have tons of

money i would run it every other day forever.

The dose is .5iu to 2iu per injection, the cost can be 5-10 dollars per iu,

unless you have

good insurance. Women seem to need twice the amount as a man. Best to start with

2iu

and see how it goes. I would skip doing .5 each day and do 2iu every other or

third day.

It is injected sub-q in the belly fat. No reason to inject any other way. There

is no HGH in a

spray bottle or a pill, those are scams. It is very delicate and even adding the

water has to

be done with extreme care as not to destroy the long amino chains. Keep in the

fridge and

keep out of the light, no shaking or tapping vial.

To my wife and myself, we consider HGH the fountain of youth, or at least the

fountain of

delayed old age.

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at MESOrx there is a Dr. his nick is HeadDoc is is on T, HCG and HGH post

to him.

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/forumdisplay.php?s= & daysprune= & f=9

Phil

Brown <kidsxx5@...> wrote:

Tomorrow I add HGH to what I am already taking which is:

Arimidex

HCG

Testosterone CYP

Anyone else out there taking all these at the same time?

The Arimidex/HCG/Testosterone has been great for my libido but still have a lot

of fatigue and joint pain. Part of that may be I wake up a lot during the night

and never feel reseted in the morning. Next month will be going for an overnight

at the hospital to check for apnea. From what indicated good sleep is

one of the benefits of HGH, might just be what I need. I've mentioned before

that the dr I go to takes these also. He is in his 60's and every time I see him

he looks younger and more physically fit.

philip georgian

wrote:

My IGF-1 test came back at 138 range 71 - 290 I hope my Dr. after my next test

puts me on it. What kind of spots were you having on your legs. I have a rash on

my califs in the same area that never goes away it keeps comming back. I did

read that HGH will bring up ones immune system at a few Anti-ageing sites. Did

your Dr. put you one this.

Phil

theta_2k

wrote:

Hi all,

Lots of talk about HGH, hope my input can be of value.

Started HGH over two years ago and have used it on and off at different amounts

and

injection schedules. Also my wife is on it and a very good friend.

My igf-1 blood test came back at 140 range 90-360 for 40-45 year old male. The

range

for a 16-24 year old male is 202-957.

After six months on and a couple of weeks off my blood test came back at 280.

The first shot of HGH for me was quite amazing in that it put me into a

wonderful deep

sleep like i was a child once more. I could tell my body was in love with this

stuff.

Here are the things HGH fixed in my body: many numb spots/patches on my legs and

feet

and heels went away, feeling came back all the way. Stiff ankles from twists,

breaks and

wear and tear returned to normal and no pain. No weather related stiffness or

soreness

anymore. Same for my wife and friend. in fact my friend called to say that she

was walking

around the house not wearing any shoes first time in 40 years due to both feet

being

broke in a motorcycle accident at the age of 20. She has pins and fused feet and

was in

consent pain, now no pain and she can walk barefoot. General feeling of well

being, hard

to describe... better eyesight, skin. Skin tags falling off my wife, moles

shrinking, some

weight loss at first.

The view on using HGH goes like this, when you first start using HGH, inject at

bedtime, as

long as it helps you sleep, inject at bedtime. At some point in time it will

keep you awake,

that is when you switch to morning or daytime injections. Not sure why, some

people

think it is heavy repair needed so it knocks you out till all the repair is

done. That can take

months.

The injection schedule is wide open, some people say 7 days a week, other 5 on 2

off, well

the best way once you switch to daytime injections is a hour before a workout. I

perfer

every other day for a few months then off till my feet start to hurt. If you

have tons of

money i would run it every other day forever.

The dose is .5iu to 2iu per injection, the cost can be 5-10 dollars per iu,

unless you have

good insurance. Women seem to need twice the amount as a man. Best to start with

2iu

and see how it goes. I would skip doing .5 each day and do 2iu every other or

third day.

It is injected sub-q in the belly fat. No reason to inject any other way. There

is no HGH in a

spray bottle or a pill, those are scams. It is very delicate and even adding the

water has to

be done with extreme care as not to destroy the long amino chains. Keep in the

fridge and

keep out of the light, no shaking or tapping vial.

To my wife and myself, we consider HGH the fountain of youth, or at least the

fountain of

delayed old age.

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I am taking androgel, hcg, arimidex, and HGH. I started out with just hcg for 3

weeks, and my E2 went sky high along with my T. I have been taking arimidex for

a couple of weeks, and backed off of the hcg, and started taking Androgel. That

made me feel much better. I started HGH last week, and about a week later I

feel the best I have felt in 10 years. I use genotropin (HGH) in a pen device,

dose is .06mg per day. My IGF1 was below the normal range for a 38 year old

when I started. I will go back for more labs in a couple of weeks to see where

I am at, but I think I am starting to get tuned up. Feels great to have this

much energy now.

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

at MESOrx there is a Dr. his nick is HeadDoc is is on T, HCG and HGH

post to him.

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/forumdisplay.php?s= & daysprune= & f=9

Phil

Brown <kidsxx5@...> wrote:

Tomorrow I add HGH to what I am already taking which is:

Arimidex

HCG

Testosterone CYP

Anyone else out there taking all these at the same time?

The Arimidex/HCG/Testosterone has been great for my libido but still have a lot

of fatigue and joint pain. Part of that may be I wake up a lot during the night

and never feel reseted in the morning. Next month will be going for an overnight

at the hospital to check for apnea. From what indicated good sleep is

one of the benefits of HGH, might just be what I need. I've mentioned before

that the dr I go to takes these also. He is in his 60's and every time I see him

he looks younger and more physically fit.

philip georgian

wrote:

My IGF-1 test came back at 138 range 71 - 290 I hope my Dr. after my next test

puts me on it. What kind of spots were you having on your legs. I have a rash on

my califs in the same area that never goes away it keeps comming back. I did

read that HGH will bring up ones immune system at a few Anti-ageing sites. Did

your Dr. put you one this.

Phil

theta_2k

wrote:

Hi all,

Lots of talk about HGH, hope my input can be of value.

Started HGH over two years ago and have used it on and off at different amounts

and

injection schedules. Also my wife is on it and a very good friend.

My igf-1 blood test came back at 140 range 90-360 for 40-45 year old male. The

range

for a 16-24 year old male is 202-957.

After six months on and a couple of weeks off my blood test came back at 280.

The first shot of HGH for me was quite amazing in that it put me into a

wonderful deep

sleep like i was a child once more. I could tell my body was in love with this

stuff.

Here are the things HGH fixed in my body: many numb spots/patches on my legs and

feet

and heels went away, feeling came back all the way. Stiff ankles from twists,

breaks and

wear and tear returned to normal and no pain. No weather related stiffness or

soreness

anymore. Same for my wife and friend. in fact my friend called to say that she

was walking

around the house not wearing any shoes first time in 40 years due to both feet

being

broke in a motorcycle accident at the age of 20. She has pins and fused feet and

was in

consent pain, now no pain and she can walk barefoot. General feeling of well

being, hard

to describe... better eyesight, skin. Skin tags falling off my wife, moles

shrinking, some

weight loss at first.

The view on using HGH goes like this, when you first start using HGH, inject at

bedtime, as

long as it helps you sleep, inject at bedtime. At some point in time it will

keep you awake,

that is when you switch to morning or daytime injections. Not sure why, some

people

think it is heavy repair needed so it knocks you out till all the repair is

done. That can take

months.

The injection schedule is wide open, some people say 7 days a week, other 5 on 2

off, well

the best way once you switch to daytime injections is a hour before a workout. I

perfer

every other day for a few months then off till my feet start to hurt. If you

have tons of

money i would run it every other day forever.

The dose is .5iu to 2iu per injection, the cost can be 5-10 dollars per iu,

unless you have

good insurance. Women seem to need twice the amount as a man. Best to start with

2iu

and see how it goes. I would skip doing .5 each day and do 2iu every other or

third day.

It is injected sub-q in the belly fat. No reason to inject any other way. There

is no HGH in a

spray bottle or a pill, those are scams. It is very delicate and even adding the

water has to

be done with extreme care as not to destroy the long amino chains. Keep in the

fridge and

keep out of the light, no shaking or tapping vial.

To my wife and myself, we consider HGH the fountain of youth, or at least the

fountain of

delayed old age.

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,

Good luck with your routine, keep us posted on how you are doing. I took me

a year to get my T and E2 into normal range. My doctor wouldn't perscribe HGH

until everything else was under control. I am taking 0.1ml twice a day. It

looks like such a tiny amount in the syringe, it must be powerful stuff. Not

sure how my 0.1ml compairs to your.06mg amount. Any ideas on that one?

Dave

Bowling <bowling6715@...> wrote:

I am taking androgel, hcg, arimidex, and HGH. I started out with just hcg for

3 weeks, and my E2 went sky high along with my T. I have been taking arimidex

for a couple of weeks, and backed off of the hcg, and started taking Androgel.

That made me feel much better. I started HGH last week, and about a week later

I feel the best I have felt in 10 years. I use genotropin (HGH) in a pen device,

dose is .06mg per day. My IGF1 was below the normal range for a 38 year old

when I started. I will go back for more labs in a couple of weeks to see where

I am at, but I think I am starting to get tuned up. Feels great to have this

much energy now.

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

at MESOrx there is a Dr. his nick is HeadDoc is is on T, HCG and HGH

post to him.

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/forumdisplay.php?s= & daysprune= & f=9

Phil

Brown <kidsxx5@...> wrote:

Tomorrow I add HGH to what I am already taking which is:

Arimidex

HCG

Testosterone CYP

Anyone else out there taking all these at the same time?

The Arimidex/HCG/Testosterone has been great for my libido but still have a lot

of fatigue and joint pain. Part of that may be I wake up a lot during the night

and never feel reseted in the morning. Next month will be going for an overnight

at the hospital to check for apnea. From what indicated good sleep is

one of the benefits of HGH, might just be what I need. I've mentioned before

that the dr I go to takes these also. He is in his 60's and every time I see him

he looks younger and more physically fit.

philip georgian

wrote:

My IGF-1 test came back at 138 range 71 - 290 I hope my Dr. after my next test

puts me on it. What kind of spots were you having on your legs. I have a rash on

my califs in the same area that never goes away it keeps comming back. I did

read that HGH will bring up ones immune system at a few Anti-ageing sites. Did

your Dr. put you one this.

Phil

theta_2k

wrote:

Hi all,

Lots of talk about HGH, hope my input can be of value.

Started HGH over two years ago and have used it on and off at different amounts

and

injection schedules. Also my wife is on it and a very good friend.

My igf-1 blood test came back at 140 range 90-360 for 40-45 year old male. The

range

for a 16-24 year old male is 202-957.

After six months on and a couple of weeks off my blood test came back at 280.

The first shot of HGH for me was quite amazing in that it put me into a

wonderful deep

sleep like i was a child once more. I could tell my body was in love with this

stuff.

Here are the things HGH fixed in my body: many numb spots/patches on my legs and

feet

and heels went away, feeling came back all the way. Stiff ankles from twists,

breaks and

wear and tear returned to normal and no pain. No weather related stiffness or

soreness

anymore. Same for my wife and friend. in fact my friend called to say that she

was walking

around the house not wearing any shoes first time in 40 years due to both feet

being

broke in a motorcycle accident at the age of 20. She has pins and fused feet and

was in

consent pain, now no pain and she can walk barefoot. General feeling of well

being, hard

to describe... better eyesight, skin. Skin tags falling off my wife, moles

shrinking, some

weight loss at first.

The view on using HGH goes like this, when you first start using HGH, inject at

bedtime, as

long as it helps you sleep, inject at bedtime. At some point in time it will

keep you awake,

that is when you switch to morning or daytime injections. Not sure why, some

people

think it is heavy repair needed so it knocks you out till all the repair is

done. That can take

months.

The injection schedule is wide open, some people say 7 days a week, other 5 on 2

off, well

the best way once you switch to daytime injections is a hour before a workout. I

perfer

every other day for a few months then off till my feet start to hurt. If you

have tons of

money i would run it every other day forever.

The dose is .5iu to 2iu per injection, the cost can be 5-10 dollars per iu,

unless you have

good insurance. Women seem to need twice the amount as a man. Best to start with

2iu

and see how it goes. I would skip doing .5 each day and do 2iu every other or

third day.

It is injected sub-q in the belly fat. No reason to inject any other way. There

is no HGH in a

spray bottle or a pill, those are scams. It is very delicate and even adding the

water has to

be done with extreme care as not to destroy the long amino chains. Keep in the

fridge and

keep out of the light, no shaking or tapping vial.

To my wife and myself, we consider HGH the fountain of youth, or at least the

fountain of

delayed old age.

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Hi ,

When I started on HCG my TT was 650 on 150 mgs. of Depo T shots every week.

After 15 shots of HCG 3 times a week my TT levels went up to 1087 my labs range

is 262 to 1593. And me E2 went way up. I never felt this good so for me having

to take more Arimidex was worth it. How much were you doing on HCG and how high

did your levels go up. I am now doing my shots every 3 days 64mg. and on the 2

days between doing HCG. I take .5 mgs. of Arimidex a day to keep E2 down. For

me this is a small price to pay to feel this good.

Phil

Bowling <bowling6715@...> wrote:

I am taking androgel, hcg, arimidex, and HGH. I started out with just hcg for

3 weeks, and my E2 went sky high along with my T. I have been taking arimidex

for a couple of weeks, and backed off of the hcg, and started taking Androgel.

That made me feel much better. I started HGH last week, and about a week later I

feel the best I have felt in 10 years. I use genotropin (HGH) in a pen device,

dose is .06mg per day. My IGF1 was below the normal range for a 38 year old when

I started. I will go back for more labs in a couple of weeks to see where I am

at, but I think I am starting to get tuned up. Feels great to have this much

energy now.

philip georgian

wrote:

at MESOrx there is a Dr. his nick is HeadDoc is is on T, HCG and HGH post

to him.

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/forumdisplay.php?s= & daysprune= & f=9

Phil

Brown wrote:

Tomorrow I add HGH to what I am already taking which is:

Arimidex

HCG

Testosterone CYP

Anyone else out there taking all these at the same time?

The Arimidex/HCG/Testosterone has been great for my libido but still have a lot

of fatigue and joint pain. Part of that may be I wake up a lot during the night

and never feel reseted in the morning. Next month will be going for an overnight

at the hospital to check for apnea. From what indicated good sleep is

one of the benefits of HGH, might just be what I need. I've mentioned before

that the dr I go to takes these also. He is in his 60's and every time I see him

he looks younger and more physically fit.

philip georgian

wrote:

My IGF-1 test came back at 138 range 71 - 290 I hope my Dr. after my next test

puts me on it. What kind of spots were you having on your legs. I have a rash on

my califs in the same area that never goes away it keeps comming back. I did

read that HGH will bring up ones immune system at a few Anti-ageing sites. Did

your Dr. put you one this.

Phil

theta_2k

wrote:

Hi all,

Lots of talk about HGH, hope my input can be of value.

Started HGH over two years ago and have used it on and off at different amounts

and

injection schedules. Also my wife is on it and a very good friend.

My igf-1 blood test came back at 140 range 90-360 for 40-45 year old male. The

range

for a 16-24 year old male is 202-957.

After six months on and a couple of weeks off my blood test came back at 280.

The first shot of HGH for me was quite amazing in that it put me into a

wonderful deep

sleep like i was a child once more. I could tell my body was in love with this

stuff.

Here are the things HGH fixed in my body: many numb spots/patches on my legs and

feet

and heels went away, feeling came back all the way. Stiff ankles from twists,

breaks and

wear and tear returned to normal and no pain. No weather related stiffness or

soreness

anymore. Same for my wife and friend. in fact my friend called to say that she

was walking

around the house not wearing any shoes first time in 40 years due to both feet

being

broke in a motorcycle accident at the age of 20. She has pins and fused feet and

was in

consent pain, now no pain and she can walk barefoot. General feeling of well

being, hard

to describe... better eyesight, skin. Skin tags falling off my wife, moles

shrinking, some

weight loss at first.

The view on using HGH goes like this, when you first start using HGH, inject at

bedtime, as

long as it helps you sleep, inject at bedtime. At some point in time it will

keep you awake,

that is when you switch to morning or daytime injections. Not sure why, some

people

think it is heavy repair needed so it knocks you out till all the repair is

done. That can take

months.

The injection schedule is wide open, some people say 7 days a week, other 5 on 2

off, well

the best way once you switch to daytime injections is a hour before a workout. I

perfer

every other day for a few months then off till my feet start to hurt. If you

have tons of

money i would run it every other day forever.

The dose is .5iu to 2iu per injection, the cost can be 5-10 dollars per iu,

unless you have

good insurance. Women seem to need twice the amount as a man. Best to start with

2iu

and see how it goes. I would skip doing .5 each day and do 2iu every other or

third day.

It is injected sub-q in the belly fat. No reason to inject any other way. There

is no HGH in a

spray bottle or a pill, those are scams. It is very delicate and even adding the

water has to

be done with extreme care as not to destroy the long amino chains. Keep in the

fridge and

keep out of the light, no shaking or tapping vial.

To my wife and myself, we consider HGH the fountain of youth, or at least the

fountain of

delayed old age.

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Keep good track of what gets better and also all the issues that just go away as

you

progress on HGH, very interested in how you do on it.

I am on DEX, HCG, CYP, HGH

>

> Tomorrow I add HGH to what I am already taking which is:

>

> Arimidex

> HCG

> Testosterone CYP

>

> Anyone else out there taking all these at the same time?

>

> The Arimidex/HCG/Testosterone has been great for my libido but still have a

lot of

fatigue and joint pain. Part of that may be I wake up a lot during the night

and never feel

reseted in the morning. Next month will be going for an overnight at the

hospital to check

for apnea. From what indicated good sleep is one of the benefits of

HGH, might

just be what I need. I've mentioned before that the dr I go to takes these

also. He is in

his 60's and every time I see him he looks younger and more physically fit.

>

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So far today all I have is a bad headache. Hope HGH doesn't have anything to

do with it. I'll let you guys know as things progress

theta_2k <pohare@...> wrote: Keep good track of what gets better and

also all the issues that just go away as you

progress on HGH, very interested in how you do on it.

I am on DEX, HCG, CYP, HGH

>

> Tomorrow I add HGH to what I am already taking which is:

>

> Arimidex

> HCG

> Testosterone CYP

>

> Anyone else out there taking all these at the same time?

>

> The Arimidex/HCG/Testosterone has been great for my libido but still have a

lot of

fatigue and joint pain. Part of that may be I wake up a lot during the night

and never feel

reseted in the morning. Next month will be going for an overnight at the

hospital to check

for apnea. From what indicated good sleep is one of the benefits of

HGH, might

just be what I need. I've mentioned before that the dr I go to takes these

also. He is in

his 60's and every time I see him he looks younger and more physically fit.

>

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,

What is DEX?

theta_2k <pohare@...> wrote:

Keep good track of what gets better and also all the issues that just go away

as you

progress on HGH, very interested in how you do on it.

I am on DEX, HCG, CYP, HGH

>

> Tomorrow I add HGH to what I am already taking which is:

>

> Arimidex

> HCG

> Testosterone CYP

>

> Anyone else out there taking all these at the same time?

>

> The Arimidex/HCG/Testosterone has been great for my libido but still have a

lot of

fatigue and joint pain. Part of that may be I wake up a lot during the night

and never feel

reseted in the morning. Next month will be going for an overnight at the

hospital to check

for apnea. From what indicated good sleep is one of the benefits of

HGH, might

just be what I need. I've mentioned before that the dr I go to takes these

also. He is in

his 60's and every time I see him he looks younger and more physically fit.

>

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