Re: Are we losing our free rights?

[Guest guest]

Dianne, I guess a hammer had to hit me in the head to realize how our

freedoms are deteriorating. It seems so obvious where the pressure is coming

from, to get the FDA to act so ugly. A high school drop out could figure it

out. But perhaps it is the hgher officials who deal in favors, don't care to

notice.

I was not aware that congress and the senate cannot be investigated for

insider trading on wall street, wahoo, that opens the door to riches for

them, without intervention.

For what possibly reason would this be needed except personal protection

from prosecution because they took advantage of insider tips.

Houston we have a problem, david lubbock

> **

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> For years, I have been signing petitions, plus calling and emailing my

> representatives and senators, in order to get justice for those who are

> being terrorized by the FDA. I'd say we are definitely losing our free

> rights, and unless people decide to fight this, it's only going to get

> worse.

>

> In Europe, supplements are largely unavailable and there are many who want

> the same suppression to happen here too. Many may not be aware of this, but

> the FDA has gone so far as to say that if foods are promoted as being

> healthy, they can be reclassified as illegal drugs. This has already

> happened with walnuts and cherries. If this sounds ridiculous--it is--but it

> is happening nonetheless. You can Google it and see for yourselves.

>

> Dianne

>

>

[Guest guest]

Weighing in - though I do not have proper links to support this.

My understanding is that this all goes back to international Trade

Agreements signed in the name of " harmonization " having to do with NAFTA.

There is some deadline or other re: all Trade Partners having the SAME

policies in line for " supplements " and whatever else they determine.

I will try to find the ONE org. I know of and post it here.

We all need to mount a massive protest to this ridiculousness.

No need to be paranoid - oh no, it's a fact: Big Pharma, running out of

toxic chemical ideas, wants control over our plants.

Our plants/our beings... however want none of this crap - Monsanto

engineering comes to mind-

It is going to take a mighty effort; but we must not give in to this Global

corporate attempt to take our plants and all other " alternative " medicines

from us...

All Health Food stores should have Petitions - perhaps this would be a

constructive mutual effort we could take, community by community - just one

small step at a time, to keep the Evil Empire of Corporate Greed at bay...

More on this at another time. Keep the Faith.

> Dianne, I guess a hammer had to hit me in the head to realize how our

> freedoms are deteriorating. It seems so obvious where the pressure is

> coming

> from, to get the FDA to act so ugly. A high school drop out could figure it

> out. But perhaps it is the hgher officials who deal in favors, don't care

> to

> notice.

> I was not aware that congress and the senate cannot be investigated for

> insider trading on wall street, wahoo, that opens the door to riches for

> them, without intervention.

> For what possibly reason would this be needed except personal protection

> from prosecution because they took advantage of insider tips.

> Houston we have a problem, david lubbock

>

>

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > For years, I have been signing petitions, plus calling and emailing my

> > representatives and senators, in order to get justice for those who are

> > being terrorized by the FDA. I'd say we are definitely losing our free

> > rights, and unless people decide to fight this, it's only going to get

> > worse.

> >

> > In Europe, supplements are largely unavailable and there are many who

> want

> > the same suppression to happen here too. Many may not be aware of this,

> but

> > the FDA has gone so far as to say that if foods are promoted as being

> > healthy, they can be reclassified as illegal drugs. This has already

> > happened with walnuts and cherries. If this sounds ridiculous--it is--but

> it

> > is happening nonetheless. You can Google it and see for yourselves.

> >

> > Dianne

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Reading this reminds me of a lot of other things that weigh on my mind

lately, about the way the world is run, peoples beliefs,

indoctrinations, availability of truth in media (lol) and good

nutritious food.

I'm also very pro P2P/Libertarian (like BitCoin, Torrents etc), and the

reason is because basically everything on the planet is free, because

it's powered by the Sun (food, oil, D3, electricity, weather etc). We

have this notion that everything is controlled by money, and as long as

we believe that we ourselved won't be free. How about having a P2P

distribution of nutraceuticals? The basis for that thinking being there

is no target that they can take down. How about Open Source software?

It's people just cooperating, usually without the involvement of money.

With anything electronic it's a lot easier to distribute, but it could

be done with tangibles as well. It would in classical thinking be

extremely inefficient, but that thinking is based on efficiency of our

monetary/control system. Nature isn't efficient by that yard stick, but

then Nature knows there is absolute abundance, that there is no shortage

of anything in an absolute sense. If it takes 100Kw to grow a lettuce

to make part of a salad, in Natures way that's just fine. If you have

to work for CorpGov and get money, pay taxes, put oil in the truck that

delivers it to BigSuperMarket corp, pay their profit/tax/slippage, then

that 100Kw lettuce wouldn't be viable.

Random rant, because I'm feeling the earth changing, and I need some

answers... and a plan.

>

> Weighing in - though I do not have proper links to support this.

> My understanding is that this all goes back to international Trade

> Agreements signed in the name of " harmonization " having to do with NAFTA.

> There is some deadline or other re: all Trade Partners having the SAME

> policies in line for " supplements " and whatever else they determine.

> I will try to find the ONE org. I know of and post it here.

> We all need to mount a massive protest to this ridiculousness.

> No need to be paranoid - oh no, it's a fact: Big Pharma, running out of

> toxic chemical ideas, wants control over our plants.

> Our plants/our beings... however want none of this crap - Monsanto

> engineering comes to mind-

> It is going to take a mighty effort; but we must not give in to this

> Global

> corporate attempt to take our plants and all other " alternative " medicines

> from us...

> All Health Food stores should have Petitions - perhaps this would be a

> constructive mutual effort we could take, community by community -

> just one

> small step at a time, to keep the Evil Empire of Corporate Greed at bay...

> More on this at another time. Keep the Faith.

>

> On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 11:24 PM, dAVId <dhallgar@...

> <mailto:dhallgar%40gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> > Dianne, I guess a hammer had to hit me in the head to realize how our

> > freedoms are deteriorating. It seems so obvious where the pressure is

> > coming

> > from, to get the FDA to act so ugly. A high school drop out could

> figure it

> > out. But perhaps it is the hgher officials who deal in favors, don't

> care

> > to

> > notice.

> > I was not aware that congress and the senate cannot be investigated for

> > insider trading on wall street, wahoo, that opens the door to riches for

> > them, without intervention.

> > For what possibly reason would this be needed except personal protection

> > from prosecution because they took advantage of insider tips.

> > Houston we have a problem, david lubbock

> >

> > On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Kore <koresun@...

> <mailto:koresun%40yahoo.com>> wrote:

> >

> > > **

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > >

> > > For years, I have been signing petitions, plus calling and emailing my

> > > representatives and senators, in order to get justice for those

> who are

> > > being terrorized by the FDA. I'd say we are definitely losing our free

> > > rights, and unless people decide to fight this, it's only going to get

> > > worse.

> > >

> > > In Europe, supplements are largely unavailable and there are many who

> > want

> > > the same suppression to happen here too. Many may not be aware of

> this,

> > but

> > > the FDA has gone so far as to say that if foods are promoted as being

> > > healthy, they can be reclassified as illegal drugs. This has already

> > > happened with walnuts and cherries. If this sounds ridiculous--it

> is--but

> > it

> > > is happening nonetheless. You can Google it and see for yourselves.

> > >

> > > Dianne

> > >

> > >