Faith impact

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Hello samcmaster,

Good to meet you on the List. Before I comment on

your question, could I ask if you have some simple name under which you can

identify yourself other than by the email name? I’d like to

be able to address you as something simpler… Edith, Mavis or just

whatever you choose, whether it represents your real name or not.

Now in regard to questions of faith. You will

doubtless be aware from the rules and guidelines for ASPIRES, that discussions

of matters of religion and politics are not permitted on ASPIRES. Much

as the other Listers will respect your personal views, there is always the

danger of instances that longer term members like myself will recall, when

frank or graphic comments about faith have disrupted the smooth flow of

postings. More than once have individual and highly respected

members left in distress or deep offense when debate or critical comments on

religion have been expressed. This has been most regrettable,

and to avoid such occurrences, our Moderator has had to step in to lay down the

law about the matter.

I could go into more detail and explanation to you on the

matter, if you like; but it could probably be best confined to a communication

off-line via our private email.

In the meantime, I understand there is at least one List

on which persons of Christian persuasion can discuss AS and its handling in the

light of their faith because that is its prime purpose. This is a

site to be found, I understand, under the name of CATACOMBS. Jennie

or some others of the Listers I’m sure would be happy to direct

you. Within ASPIRES, however, the discussion/analysis/criticism of

principles and morality of AS behavior and motives do not bear the powerful and

penetrating exposition which religious faith may bring, with its

accompanying terminology and testimonies. We may variously

disagree on principles and theories, but we don’t run the risk of

offending one another with our comments on the profound experiences or convictions,

which might either embarrass or irritate. Members of the List

include persons of all religions, as well as those of powerfully anti-religious

stances.

Let me make it plain of course, that avoiding discussion of

Faith or God matters does not imply that one may not mention ‘going to

church’ or finding a helpful principle in say some comment of a

Biblical writer. The ‘fact’ of being a church-goer wont

offend anyone of course, any more than would to quote some practical bit of

advice that one got from the Pastor or Priest.

Anyway, I guess you will get the idea.

Again, may I say it’s great to have you on the List,

Cheers,

Ron (74 yr old Australian Aspie)

Subject: Faith impact

Has anyone else found faith in God to impact their situation? We both grew

up in Christian homes, but he hates going to church. I think he feels

unacceptable. I know that he still believes in Jesus and would probably

struggle even more so than he does now if he didn't have that. But he can

behave so un-Christ like, __________________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi,I'd like to reply off list but only with your permission. I had issues, big issues that affected our marriage and they're not horrible or depressing like so much of my story seems to be, and you may be able to identify. A good friend and I kind of came up with an understanding recently of why this may have been an issue. It may shed some light on it for you.Let me know if you want to talk off list - you won't hurt my feelings if you choose not to - just an offer. You can email me directly to my own email address if you wish.Subject:

Faith impactTo: aspires-relationships Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 2:12 PM

Has anyone else found faith in God to impact their situation? We both grew up in Christian homes, but he hates going to church. I think he feels unacceptable. I know that he still believes in Jesus and would probably struggle even more so than he does now if he didn't have that. But he can behave so un-Christ like, I'm at a loss for what to do.

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[Guest guest]

Hi and Samcaster,I am also saved and would love to discuss some of this off-list- feel free to write.PS: For an excellent Christian group related to AS, check out CATACOMBS_Asperger (a yahoo group)To: aspires-relationships Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 7:47:54

PMSubject: Re: Faith impact

Hi,I'd like to reply off list but only with your permission. I had issues, big issues that affected our marriage and they're not horrible or depressing like so much of my story seems to be, and you may be able to identify. A good friend and I kind of came up with an understanding recently of why this may have been an issue. It may shed some light on it for you.Let me know if you want to talk off list - you won't hurt my feelings if you choose not to - just an offer. You can email me directly to my own email address if you wish.From: samcmasterjuno (DOT) com <samcmasterjuno (DOT) com>Subject:

[aspires-relationsh ips] Faith impactTo: aspires-relationshi psyahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 2:12 PM

Has anyone else found faith in God to impact their situation? We both grew up in Christian homes, but he hates going to church. I think he feels unacceptable. I know that he still believes in Jesus and would probably struggle even more so than he does now if he didn't have that. But he can behave so un-Christ like, I'm at a loss for what to do.

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[Guest guest]

Thank you ,I'm just now catching up on email and may write tomorrow. By the way, I did get a postcard to send, I'm happy to do that.From: samcmasterjuno (DOT) com <samcmasterjuno (DOT) com>Subject:

[aspires-relationsh ips] Faith impactTo: aspires-relationshi psyahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 2:12 PM

Has anyone else found faith in God to impact their situation? We both grew up in Christian homes, but he hates going to church. I think he feels unacceptable. I know that he still believes in Jesus and would probably struggle even more so than he does now if he didn't have that. But he can behave so un-Christ like, I'm at a loss for what to do.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Harmony:

You are correct religion/faith is allowed when you speak about how is has impacted YOUR life. We just want to be respectful of others who have a different belief system and want to prevent folks from trying to convert other folks to their faith as there are other lists for that.

Best.

PS: If you send Helen or me your new email address, we can make the change for you.