Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Sorry, other PCPs are your "economic enemies" as you fight for pts. Specialists want your referrals and are nicer to economically find the win-win. There was a force in my area to form "at risk" Physician Hospital Organizations about 10 years ago, ALL COLLAPSED, some with losses for the primary docs. The main way these work in our area is when the hospital buys all the practices and runs them, ie, in primary care this does not work as overhead goes through the roof! Never never never work for a hospital, or if you do, get your money as a guarantee salary and be looking for your next job.............been there done that. Collaboration, YES, salaried and working for another, NO! Matt in Western PA Re: [practicemgt] Anyone Following This? > > Once again Glenn, you've expressed my thoughts better than I could. > > As an independent small group owner, I don't think that AAFP supports > us in this fight. > > R. Pierce MD > Rockport, Maine > www.midcoastmedicine.com > > > > > On 12/28/2009 12:13 PM, gswheetfastmail (DOT) us wrote: >> But my AAFP leadership assured me that this legislation was good >> overall, though admittedly imperfect! How could it be so flawed? >> >> The truth is, for various reasons, I suspect our leadership would have >> swallowed ANY bill, as long as it had healthcare reform in the title. >> Honestly, it seemed that no matter what got crammed into this bill, no >> matter how much good stuff got taken out, we kept modifying our degree >> of support, but never withdrew it. Our Board of Directors sees some >> significant difference between saying "support" and "endorse", but in >> the end, laws either pass or fail, regardless of whether the legislators >> can claim 100%, 90%, or 65% support from the doctors. >> >> Guaranteed, all they heard in Congress was that the AAFP was on board. >> Qualifying our support is of what meaninful consequence after this bill >> is signed into law? >> >> Will we be allowed to obey only 80% of its provisions because the AAFP >> was only 80% satisfied with it? >> >> As to the provisions that effectively aim for the extinction of >> solo/small groups, it is clear that our leadership sold us out. >> When confronted with this, I can already tell you what we will hear: >> 1) Silence. Hope the questioner goes away. >> 2) "Oh, no." "You're reading this all wrong. It won't be that bad." >> 3) "This was a necessary compromise to ensure the overall position of >> primary care in HCR. Better to have large groups of primary care than >> multiple solo specialists as the future of healthcare in the U.S." >> >> I've refused to give a dime to our PAC as I feel it is advancing the >> cause of Corporate, Top-heavy Family Medicine (at best), and Corporate, >> Top-heavy Primary Care (with the FP gradually being phased out to the >> NP/PA model) at worst. I've listened to Board members within our own >> specialty say that they think this is the future of primary care and >> that we should be preparing to be managers rather than face-to-face >> clinicians. They may be right (I pray not), but I'm not going to fund a >> lobbyist to facilitate that process. My money will go to oppose such >> trends. >> >> The AAFP claims to be strong medicine for America. Our support for this >> so-called HCR looks more like a placebo with nauseating side-effects. >> >> Glenn Wheet, MD >> South Bend, MD >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:04:19 -0500, "Pennie Marchetti" >> <pmarchettiameritech (DOT) net> said: >> >>> Just to scare you some more, here are some details about the bill that >>> just >>> passed that make me want to weep. >>> >>> >>> From the Wall Street Journal >>> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704254604574613992408387548.html >>> : >>> >>> >>> Primary-care doctors who refer patients to specialists will face >>> financial >>> penalties under the plan. Doctors will see 5% of their Medicare pay cut >>> when their "aggregated" use of resources is "at or above the 90th >>> percentile of national utilization," according to the chairman's mark of >>> Section 3003 of the bill. Doctors will feel financial pressure to limit >>> referrals to costly specialists like surgeons, since these penalties will >>> put the referring physician on the hook for the cost of the referral and >>> perhaps any resulting procedures. >>> >>> Next, the plan creates financial incentives for doctors to consolidate >>> their practices. The idea here is that Medicare can more easily apply its >>> regulations to institutions that manage large groups of doctors than it >>> can >>> to individual physicians. So the Obama plan imposes new costs on doctors >>> who remain solo, mostly by increasing their overhead requirementssuch as >>> requiring three years of medical records every time a doctor orders >>> routine >>> medical equipment like wheelchairs. >>> >>> The plan also offers doctors financial carrots if they give up their >>> small >>> practices and consolidate into larger medical groups, or become salaried >>> employees of large institutions such as hospitals or "staff model" >>> medical >>> plans like Kaiser Permanente. One provision, laid out in Section 3022, >>> allows doctors to share with the government any savings to the government >>> they achieve by delivering less carebut only if physicians are part of >>> groups caring for more than 5,000 Medicare patients and "have in place a >>> leadership and management structure, including with regard to clinical >>> and >>> administrative systems." >>> >>> While these payment reforms are structured as pilot programs in the >>> legislation, this distinction has little practical meaning. Medicare is >>> being given broad authority, for the first time, to roll these >>> demonstration programs out nationally without the need for a second >>> authorization by Congress. >>> >>> >>> And then there's this proof of what we've all felt intuitively - that >>> government intrusion in our business is already unbearable: >>> >>> http://healthcare.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NjZhZGE1ODZhOGJlMDY0OTU3ZDBjYjdjZmRlYWJlZmM= >>> >>> The Public Welfare Code contains 109 pages of rules governing providers. >>> This includes rules governing the National Practitioners Database, HIPAA, >>> as well as other administrative regulations. A mere ten years earlier, >>> the >>> number of pages was only seven! >>> >>> That's an increase of 1,457% over ten years. Ouch! Don't expect that to >>> go down. >>> >>> Merry Christmas, here's hoping we all survive the New Year. >>> >>> Pennie Marchetti, MD >>> Stow, Ohio >>> solo practice >>> >>> At 10:27 PM 12/22/2009, you wrote: >>> >>>> "Why else would they pursue healthcare bills that their own party's left >>>> wing detests, unless they are doing so with a wink and a nod indicating >>>> that the liberals will eventually get everything they want & #8211; a >>>> single-payer system?" >>>> >>> --- >>> You are currently subscribed to practicemgt as: gswheetfastmail (DOT) us >>> To unsubscribe or to manage your settings, please go to >>> http://members.aafp.org/members/cgi-bin/myaafp.pl?op=subscriptions & type=lists >>> > > --- > You are currently subscribed to practicemgt as: drkdrkleinman > To unsubscribe or to manage your settings, please go to http://members.aafp.org/members/cgi-bin/myaafp.pl?op=subscriptions & type=lists > > --- > You are currently subscribed to practicemgt as: lockecoloradogmail > To unsubscribe or to manage your settings, please go to http://members.aafp.org/members/cgi-bin/myaafp.pl?op=subscriptions & type=lists > -- PATIENTS,please remember email may not be entirely secure and that Email is part of the medical record and is placed into the chart ( be careful what you say!)Email is best used for appointment making and brief questionsEmail replies can be expected within 24 hours-Please CALL if the matter is more urgent . 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