RE: brain perk up technique

[Guest guest]

Okay, how much vinegar do you use? I will try this one? I can't try the grapefruit test as that is a HUGE no no with valium as it messes with the same liver pathway.

Liz

__________________________________

Liz Vernand

www.ojaipaintedminis.com

This is for the extreme alkaline gals. I couldn't' get my brain to wake up today. I've been doing vinegar baths and skin brushing, but I didn't do it today. I only went for a hard ride and did skin brushing.I finally had a hot vinegar bath. My brain is back now. And I can type quickly again and my touch of carpel tunnel is gone.Less alkaline and more acid and the sympathetic system kicks in better.It's like using E (-:Laurel

[Guest guest]

OMG - It might be that you are the last person to do this.!It seems to me you started as a SD in the ANS.  The 1st P experience pushed you far to parasymp, but you aren't naturally there.  The WP pushed you far again, but the anxiety thing with you makes me very concerned.  The diet is mixed up too.  The grey teeth.  That is an important clue.  BIg and the weight gain and the edema in the right leg.    Do your meds make calcium go out of your body?  With you --- if it were me --- I'd go slow.  The vinegar is to acidify the body.  Grapefruit juice orally will alkalize.    I don't know where you are now.  It might be that you are still naturally a SD gal.  )-:  you and Jenn need careful careful cautious care.  It seems your sympathetic system got hit so hard.  And maybe it leaves you with a weak PS?  I don't know. If you go slowly you might find your way by testing in small degrees.  Do you like acid stuff or basic (alkaline like baking soda or grapefruit juice) stuff?  LaurelOkay, how much vinegar do you use? I will try this one? I can't try the grapefruit test as that is a HUGE no no with valium as it messes with the same liver pathway. Liz __________________________________Liz Vernandwww.ojaipaintedminis.com  This is for the extreme alkaline gals. I couldn't' get my brain to wake up today. I've been doing vinegar baths and skin brushing, but I didn't do it today. I only went for a hard ride and did skin brushing.I finally had a hot vinegar bath. My brain is back now. And I can type quickly again and my touch of carpel tunnel is gone.Less alkaline and more acid and the sympathetic system kicks in better.It's like using E (-:Laurel

[Guest guest]

Laurel.

What might I be the last person to do?

Okay, I have an appointment with Dr. Jace on the 19th. I quickly gave him some history. He thought maybe that the reason I got the E cancer was due to the P converting more to Estrone. Not that it was a P positive cancer. And that I'm metabolizing the E (could be into Estrone) and this is why I can't get my numbers up. Not sure what this all means but sounds like he will do a slew of tests while I"m down there. Mentioned a glucose test which makes me uneasy as I think he does metobolic type testing and they might use grapefruit juice to test? or , can you enlighten me on this one? I have to fast before I go. This is going to be tough as my appointment isn't until 10am and I have to drive in the LA traffic which is stressful. Hopefully this isn't going to mess with my anxiety . But I really want to find out what the heck is going on.

My teeth look less gray now, so not sure what that was about. Maybe it was something when I switched diets?

Here's my favorite foods if I went for it.

Popcorn with a stick of butter

Pepperoni Pizza

Steak

Watermelon with salt

Chcolate chip ice cream

Chips and salsa- Actually I love mexican food

Salted Sunflower seeds

Bread and butter

Looks like fat and salt and spicy.

Not sure what this all says. I have no idea what makes me feel better or worse at this point. I have been so confused with everything for so long, I have no idea. I do know some E will help get rid of headaches.

Today, I'm feeling really edgy and anxious and snappy. Not sure if it's going back to the patches from the cream or if it's from my recent cut in Valium.

The last few nights I have taken a tiny bit of Calm before bed. Don't know if it helps or not. I have no idea if Calcium helps either. I have tried it all. I think I will take a warm bath tonight with a bit of vinegar in it and see what that does.

I just want to get better

Liz

__________________________________

Liz Vernand

www.ojaipaintedminis.com

OMG - It might be that you are the last person to do this.!

It seems to me you started as a SD in the ANS. The 1st P experience pushed you far to parasymp, but you aren't naturally there. The WP pushed you far again, but the anxiety thing with you makes me very concerned.

The diet is mixed up too. The grey teeth. That is an important clue. BIg and the weight gain and the edema in the right leg.

Do your meds make calcium go out of your body?

With you --- if it were me --- I'd go slow. The vinegar is to acidify the body. Grapefruit juice orally will alkalize. I don't know where you are now. It might be that you are still naturally a SD gal.

)-:

you and Jenn need careful careful cautious care. It seems your sympathetic system got hit so hard. And maybe it leaves you with a weak PS?

I don't know.

If you go slowly you might find your way by testing in small degrees. Do you like acid stuff or basic (alkaline like baking soda or grapefruit juice) stuff?

Laurel

Okay, how much vinegar do you use? I will try this one? I can't try the grapefruit test as that is a HUGE no no with valium as it messes with the same liver pathway.

Liz

__________________________________

Liz Vernand

www.ojaipaintedminis.com

This is for the extreme alkaline gals. I couldn't' get my brain to wake up today. I've been doing vinegar baths and skin brushing, but I didn't do it today. I only went for a hard ride and did skin brushing.I finally had a hot vinegar bath. My brain is back now. And I can type quickly again and my touch of carpel tunnel is gone.Less alkaline and more acid and the sympathetic system kicks in better.It's like using E (-:Laurel

[Guest guest]

Vinegar perks up the sympathetic side.  What we want at bed is to allow the parasympathetic to be in the forefront.  I'm not sure the bed time vinegar is a good idea.  But you seem to think you are naturally a meat eater. ? That puzzles me.  Magnesium bath?Magnesium is a tricky mineral for women with progesterone overdosing.  If you get in the mag bath and your heart is pounding - that is not good.  What does mag do to you?  LaurelLaurel. What might I be the last person to do?  Okay, I have an appointment with Dr. Jace on the 19th. I quickly gave him some history. He thought maybe that the reason I got the E cancer was due to the P converting more to Estrone. Not that it was a P positive cancer. And that I'm metabolizing the E (could be into Estrone) and this is why I can't get my numbers up. Not sure what this all means but sounds like he will do a slew of tests while I"m down there. Mentioned a glucose test which makes me uneasy as I think he does metobolic type testing and they might use grapefruit juice to test? or , can you enlighten me on this one? I have to fast before I go. This is going to be tough as my appointment isn't until 10am and I have to drive in the LA traffic which is stressful. Hopefully this isn't going to mess with my anxiety . But I really want to find out what the heck is going on. My teeth look less gray now, so not sure what that was about. Maybe it was something when I switched diets? Here's my favorite foods if I went for it. Popcorn with a stick of butterPepperoni PizzaSteakWatermelon with saltChcolate chip ice creamChips and salsa- Actually I love mexican foodSalted Sunflower seedsBread and butter Looks like fat and salt and spicy. Not sure what this all says. I have no idea what makes me feel better or worse at this point. I have been so confused with everything for so long, I have no idea. I do know some E will help get rid of headaches. Today, I'm feeling really edgy and anxious and snappy. Not sure if it's going back to the patches from the cream or if it's from my recent cut in Valium. The last few nights I have taken a tiny bit of Calm before bed. Don't know if it helps or not. I have no idea if Calcium helps either. I have tried it all. I think I will take a warm bath tonight with a bit of vinegar in it and see what that does. I just want to get better  Liz __________________________________Liz Vernandwww.ojaipaintedminis.com  OMG - It might be that you are the last person to do this.!It seems to me you started as a SD in the ANS.  The 1st P experience pushed you far to parasymp, but you aren't naturally there.  The WP pushed you far again, but the anxiety thing with you makes me very concerned.  The diet is mixed up too.  The grey teeth.  That is an important clue.  BIg and the weight gain and the edema in the right leg.    Do your meds make calcium go out of your body?  With you --- if it were me --- I'd go slow.  The vinegar is to acidify the body.  Grapefruit juice orally will alkalize.    I don't know where you are now.  It might be that you are still naturally a SD gal.  )-:  you and Jenn need careful careful cautious care.  It seems your sympathetic system got hit so hard.  And maybe it leaves you with a weak PS?  I don't know. If you go slowly you might find your way by testing in small degrees.  Do you like acid stuff or basic (alkaline like baking soda or grapefruit juice) stuff?  LaurelOkay, how much vinegar do you use? I will try this one? I can't try the grapefruit test as that is a HUGE no no with valium as it messes with the same liver pathway. Liz __________________________________Liz Vernandwww.ojaipaintedminis.com  This is for the extreme alkaline gals. I couldn't' get my brain to wake up today. I've been doing vinegar baths and skin brushing, but I didn't do it today. I only went for a hard ride and did skin brushing.I finally had a hot vinegar bath. My brain is back now. And I can type quickly again and my touch of carpel tunnel is gone.Less alkaline and more acid and the sympathetic system kicks in better.It's like using E (-:Laurel

[Guest guest]

Okay, no vinegar at night. If I take a hot bath ( I try not to get it to hot) with epsom salt my heart pounds. I am going to try 3 different baths, vinegar, e salt, nothing. And see what happens. It does not take much to make my heart pound. I can bend over and my heart will pound. I get short of breath very easy. I can't do sauna's, makes my heart pound.

I do think I need red meat. I'm not really crazy about chicken or turkey but eat it. I just remembered I LOVE pork bacon. I just started eating it again. (organic, no nitrites). I like my meat med rare And horseradish and wasabi. I do not like sour stuff, no pickles, even plain yogurt or kefir is to sour for me.

Magnesium doesn't seem to do much unless I take to much and then I get diarrhea.

I also have Mitral Valve Prolapse which adds to the picture.

Liz

__________________________________

Liz Vernand

www.ojaipaintedminis.com

Vinegar perks up the sympathetic side. What we want at bed is to allow the parasympathetic to be in the forefront. I'm not sure the bed time vinegar is a good idea. But you seem to think you are naturally a meat eater. ?

That puzzles me.

Magnesium bath?

Magnesium is a tricky mineral for women with progesterone overdosing. If you get in the mag bath and your heart is pounding - that is not good.

What does mag do to you?

Laurel

Laurel.

What might I be the last person to do?

Okay, I have an appointment with Dr. Jace on the 19th. I quickly gave him some history. He thought maybe that the reason I got the E cancer was due to the P converting more to Estrone. Not that it was a P positive cancer. And that I'm metabolizing the E (could be into Estrone) and this is why I can't get my numbers up. Not sure what this all means but sounds like he will do a slew of tests while I"m down there. Mentioned a glucose test which makes me uneasy as I think he does metobolic type testing and they might use grapefruit juice to test? or , can you enlighten me on this one? I have to fast before I go. This is going to be tough as my appointment isn't until 10am and I have to drive in the LA traffic which is stressful. Hopefully this isn't going to mess with my anxiety . But I really want to find out what the heck is going on.

My teeth look less gray now, so not sure what that was about. Maybe it was something when I switched diets?

Here's my favorite foods if I went for it.

Popcorn with a stick of butter

Pepperoni Pizza

Steak

Watermelon with salt

Chcolate chip ice cream

Chips and salsa- Actually I love mexican food

Salted Sunflower seeds

Bread and butter

Looks like fat and salt and spicy.

Not sure what this all says. I have no idea what makes me feel better or worse at this point. I have been so confused with everything for so long, I have no idea. I do know some E will help get rid of headaches.

Today, I'm feeling really edgy and anxious and snappy. Not sure if it's going back to the patches from the cream or if it's from my recent cut in Valium.

The last few nights I have taken a tiny bit of Calm before bed. Don't know if it helps or not. I have no idea if Calcium helps either. I have tried it all. I think I will take a warm bath tonight with a bit of vinegar in it and see what that does.

I just want to get better

Liz

__________________________________

Liz Vernand

www.ojaipaintedminis.com

OMG - It might be that you are the last person to do this.!

It seems to me you started as a SD in the ANS. The 1st P experience pushed you far to parasymp, but you aren't naturally there. The WP pushed you far again, but the anxiety thing with you makes me very concerned.

The diet is mixed up too. The grey teeth. That is an important clue. BIg and the weight gain and the edema in the right leg.

Do your meds make calcium go out of your body?

With you --- if it were me --- I'd go slow. The vinegar is to acidify the body. Grapefruit juice orally will alkalize. I don't know where you are now. It might be that you are still naturally a SD gal.

)-:

you and Jenn need careful careful cautious care. It seems your sympathetic system got hit so hard. And maybe it leaves you with a weak PS?

I don't know.

If you go slowly you might find your way by testing in small degrees. Do you like acid stuff or basic (alkaline like baking soda or grapefruit juice) stuff?

Laurel

Okay, how much vinegar do you use? I will try this one? I can't try the grapefruit test as that is a HUGE no no with valium as it messes with the same liver pathway.

Liz

__________________________________

Liz Vernand

www.ojaipaintedminis.com

This is for the extreme alkaline gals. I couldn't' get my brain to wake up today. I've been doing vinegar baths and skin brushing, but I didn't do it today. I only went for a hard ride and did skin brushing.I finally had a hot vinegar bath. My brain is back now. And I can type quickly again and my touch of carpel tunnel is gone.Less alkaline and more acid and the sympathetic system kicks in better.It's like using E (-:Laurel

[Guest guest]

You taste buds are a big clue!  Maybe you aren't as extreme as me, but a person who is naturally more inclined to be a vegetarian wouldn't say they like their meat rare.  !!!The heart pounding has me concerned.  Maybe you might do better with more things that tighten you up.  Cal, E, meat, vinegar, phosphoric acid, msm.  ?  There are moderate carnivores that don't love vinegar, but it does help them acidify.  My friend with lymphoma, for example.  Laurel Okay, no vinegar at night. If I take a hot bath ( I try not to get it to hot) with epsom salt my heart pounds. I am going to try 3 different baths, vinegar, e salt, nothing. And see what happens. It does not take much to make my heart pound. I can bend over and my heart will pound. I get short of breath very easy. I can't do sauna's, makes my heart pound.I do think I need red meat. I'm not really crazy about chicken or turkey but eat it. I just remembered I LOVE pork bacon. I just started eating it again. (organic, no nitrites). I like my meat med rare And horseradish and wasabi. I do not like sour stuff, no pickles, even plain yogurt or kefir is to sour for me. Magnesium doesn't seem to do much unless I take to much and then I get diarrhea. I also have Mitral Valve Prolapse which adds to the picture. Liz __________________________________Liz Vernandwww.ojaipaintedminis.com  Vinegar perks up the sympathetic side. What we want at bed is to allow the parasympathetic to be in the forefront. I'm not sure the bed time vinegar is a good idea. But you seem to think you are naturally a meat eater. ?That puzzles me.Magnesium bath?Magnesium is a tricky mineral for women with progesterone overdosing. If you get in the mag bath and your heart is pounding - that is not good.What does mag do to you?LaurelLaurel.What might I be the last person to do? :)Okay, I have an appointment with Dr. Jace on the 19th. I quickly gave him some history. He thought maybe that the reason I got the E cancer was due to the P converting more to Estrone. Not that it was a P positive cancer. And that I'm metabolizing the E (could be into Estrone) and this is why I can't get my numbers up. Not sure what this all means but sounds like he will do a slew of tests while I"m down there. Mentioned a glucose test which makes me uneasy as I think he does metobolic type testing and they might use grapefruit juice to test? or , can you enlighten me on this one? I have to fast before I go. This is going to be tough as my appointment isn't until 10am and I have to drive in the LA traffic which is stressful. Hopefully this isn't going to mess with my anxiety . But I really want to find out what the heck is going on.My teeth look less gray now, so not sure what that was about. Maybe it was something when I switched diets?Here's my favorite foods if I went for it.Popcorn with a stick of butterPepperoni PizzaSteakWatermelon with saltChcolate chip ice creamChips and salsa- Actually I love mexican foodSalted Sunflower seedsBread and butterLooks like fat and salt and spicy.Not sure what this all says. I have no idea what makes me feel better or worse at this point. I have been so confused with everything for so long, I have no idea. I do know some E will help get rid of headaches.Today, I'm feeling really edgy and anxious and snappy. Not sure if it's going back to the patches from the cream or if it's from my recent cut in Valium.The last few nights I have taken a tiny bit of Calm before bed. Don't know if it helps or not. I have no idea if Calcium helps either. I have tried it all. I think I will take a warm bath tonight with a bit of vinegar in it and see what that does.I just want to get better :)Liz__________________________________Liz Vernandwww.ojaipaintedminis.comOMG - It might be that you are the last person to do this.!It seems to me you started as a SD in the ANS. The 1st P experience pushed you far to parasymp, but you aren't naturally there. The WP pushed you far again, but the anxiety thing with you makes me very concerned.The diet is mixed up too. The grey teeth. That is an important clue. BIg and the weight gain and the edema in the right leg.Do your meds make calcium go out of your body?With you --- if it were me --- I'd go slow. The vinegar is to acidify the body. Grapefruit juice orally will alkalize. I don't know where you are now. It might be that you are still naturally a SD gal.)-:you and Jenn need careful careful cautious care. It seems your sympathetic system got hit so hard. And maybe it leaves you with a weak PS?I don't know.If you go slowly you might find your way by testing in small degrees. Do you like acid stuff or basic (alkaline like baking soda or grapefruit juice) stuff?LaurelOkay, how much vinegar do you use? I will try this one? I can't try the grapefruit test as that is a HUGE no no with valium as it messes with the same liver pathway.Liz__________________________________Liz Vernandwww.ojaipaintedminis.comThis is for the extreme alkaline gals. I couldn't' get my brain to wake up today. I've been doing vinegar baths and skin brushing, but I didn't do it today. I only went for a hard ride and did skin brushing.I finally had a hot vinegar bath. My brain is back now. And I can type quickly again and my touch of carpel tunnel is gone.Less alkaline and more acid and the sympathetic system kicks in better.It's like using E (-:Laurel

[Guest guest]

Liz,

You have to fast before your visit to Dr. Jace but only for 6 hours. So, if you're seeing him at 10:00 am, you can eat for the last time at 4:00 am. That worked for me because I was up then but may not work for you. But, if hunger really kills you, you could wake up at 3:30 am just to eat something and then go back to sleep.

They do not use grapefruit juice. The glucose test is a finger prick test. The only substance they gave me to eat or drink was a chocolate whey protrein drink at some point and then they do some other tests after that. So, that will kill the hunger and you don't have to wait until you are done with the whole appt. to eat.

Reply-To: rhythmicliving To: <rhythmicliving >Subject: RE: brain perk up techniqueDate: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 16:58:40 -0700

Laurel.

What might I be the last person to do?

Okay, I have an appointment with Dr. Jace on the 19th. I quickly gave him some history. He thought maybe that the reason I got the E cancer was due to the P converting more to Estrone. Not that it was a P positive cancer. And that I'm metabolizing the E (could be into Estrone) and this is why I can't get my numbers up. Not sure what this all means but sounds like he will do a slew of tests while I"m down there. Mentioned a glucose test which makes me uneasy as I think he does metobolic type testing and they might use grapefruit juice to test? or , can you enlighten me on this one? I have to fast before I go. This is going to be tough as my appointment isn't until 10am and I have to drive in the LA traffic which is stressful. Hopefully this isn't going to mess with my anxiety . But I really want to find out what the heck is going on.

My teeth look less gray now, so not sure what that was about. Maybe it was something when I switched diets?

Here's my favorite foods if I went for it.

Popcorn with a stick of butter

Pepperoni Pizza

Steak

Watermelon with salt

Chcolate chip ice cream

Chips and salsa- Actually I love mexican food

Salted Sunflower seeds

Bread and butter

Looks like fat and salt and spicy.

Not sure what this all says. I have no idea what makes me feel better or worse at this point. I have been so confused with everything for so long, I have no idea. I do know some E will help get rid of headaches.

Today, I'm feeling really edgy and anxious and snappy. Not sure if it's going back to the patches from the cream or if it's from my recent cut in Valium.

The last few nights I have taken a tiny bit of Calm before bed. Don't know if it helps or not. I have no idea if Calcium helps either. I have tried it all. I think I will take a warm bath tonight with a bit of vinegar in it and see what that does.

I just want to get better

Liz

__________________________________

Liz Vernand

www.ojaipaintedminis.com

OMG - It might be that you are the last person to do this.!

It seems to me you started as a SD in the ANS. The 1st P experience pushed you far to parasymp, but you aren't naturally there. The WP pushed you far again, but the anxiety thing with you makes me very concerned.

The diet is mixed up too. The grey teeth. That is an important clue. BIg and the weight gain and the edema in the right leg.

Do your meds make calcium go out of your body?

With you --- if it were me --- I'd go slow. The vinegar is to acidify the body. Grapefruit juice orally will alkalize. I don't know where you are now. It might be that you are still naturally a SD gal.

)-:

you and Jenn need careful careful cautious care. It seems your sympathetic system got hit so hard. And maybe it leaves you with a weak PS?

I don't know.

If you go slowly you might find your way by testing in small degrees. Do you like acid stuff or basic (alkaline like baking soda or grapefruit juice) stuff?

Laurel

Okay, how much vinegar do you use? I will try this one? I can't try the grapefruit test as that is a HUGE no no with valium as it messes with the same liver pathway.

Liz

__________________________________

Liz Vernand

www.ojaipaintedminis.com

This is for the extreme alkaline gals. I couldn't' get my brain to wake up today. I've been doing vinegar baths and skin brushing, but I didn't do it today. I only went for a hard ride and did skin brushing.I finally had a hot vinegar bath. My brain is back now. And I can type quickly again and my touch of carpel tunnel is gone.Less alkaline and more acid and the sympathetic system kicks in better.It's like using E (-:Laurel

[Guest guest]

Laurel,

I have had heart pounding forever. This is not new for me. I remember once I went to the Renaissance Fair in Calabasas (this was the real one and was a hoot) and it was always in early summer. I was just a teenager and the heat bothered me then. I remember almost fainting from it and my heart pounding. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I have always been really skinny. I think I never was had enough E in me as a girl to develop breasts and such. I have most likely have had something since birth or maybe after all the vaccines I received as a child. I look at pictures of me as a 5 year old and look normal but when I hit 8 or 9 I started getting skinny. Parasites? I had a ton of dental work done when I was very young, teeth pulled, spacers, x-rays (and I don't think they were that careful in those days.). So I think it's a cumulative thing I have here and some birth things and maybe some genetics. I wish it were as easy as just adding some acidic food to my diet or taking it away. BTW - I have always been told I need to eat more alkaline food. (This is from the people who think anyone with any health problem is to acidic).

I really appreciate your brain storming and all the information you bring out.

Liz

__________________________________

Liz Vernand

www.ojaipaintedminis.com

You taste buds are a big clue! Maybe you aren't as extreme as me, but a person who is naturally more inclined to be a vegetarian wouldn't say they like their meat rare. !!!

The heart pounding has me concerned. Maybe you might do better with more things that tighten you up. Cal, E, meat, vinegar, phosphoric acid, msm.

?

There are moderate carnivores that don't love vinegar, but it does help them acidify. My friend with lymphoma, for example.

Laurel

..

[Guest guest]

Hi Gals,

I wholeheartedly second for myself what Liz says about her body, i.e. getting skinny around 9 or 10, always lacking real "go-power", so to say, a quiet, hesitant, introvert child with frequent health issues... With 16 I got all my teeth inlay-ed (lack of calcium absorption ability, and little to eat after the WWII). Easily stressed by just daily life, the body forever trying to "cope" as needed, and becoming acidic. I've never had the perfect ph- number, even when I tried hard with a "perfect diet" - in fact I seemed to crave/need some acidic food to give me strengh, ="umph", to push myself.

Strange creatures we all are, each with our own, mostly unconscious/secret reasons/challenges to "explore and master" life in one way or another....Anyway, it's nice to sometimes find company with "another weirdo like ourselves", since we seem to be the "one and only creature troubled this way" among our family and friends, who can only shake their heads in disbelief, when they ask us to share our physical "hang-ups".

Love,

Charlotte

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RE: brain perk up technique

Laurel,

I have had heart pounding forever. This is not new for me. I remember once I went to the Renaissance Fair in Calabasas (this was the real one and was a hoot) and it was always in early summer. I was just a teenager and the heat bothered me then. I remember almost fainting from it and my heart pounding. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I have always been really skinny. I think I never was had enough E in me as a girl to develop breasts and such. I have most likely have had something since birth or maybe after all the vaccines I received as a child. I look at pictures of me as a 5 year old and look normal but when I hit 8 or 9 I started getting skinny. Parasites? I had a ton of dental work done when I was very young, teeth pulled, spacers, x-rays (and I don't think they were that careful in those days.). So I think it's a cumulative thing I have here and some birth things and maybe some genetics. I wish it were as easy as just adding some acidic food to my diet or taking it away. BTW - I have always been told I need to eat more alkaline food. (This is from the people who think anyone with any health problem is to acidic).

I really appreciate your brain storming and all the information you bring out.

Liz

__________________________________

Liz Vernand

www.ojaipaintedminis.com

You taste buds are a big clue! Maybe you aren't as extreme as me, but a person who is naturally more inclined to be a vegetarian wouldn't say they like their meat rare. !!!

The heart pounding has me concerned. Maybe you might do better with more things that tighten you up. Cal, E, meat, vinegar, phosphoric acid, msm.

?

There are moderate carnivores that don't love vinegar, but it does help them acidify. My friend with lymphoma, for example.

Laurel

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[Guest guest]

And Laurel, you say you're alkaline ?

I - an " acidic " blood girl - have used the skin brushing trick for 25 years

morning and night, can't exist without it... And it takes about 2 hours in

the morning including floor exercises, shower, and the Alan Bates'

eye-sunning treatment (against dry eyes), and tea and a piece of fruit,

(EFAs, DMAE and Gingko for brain and vascular), before I'm ready to fully

brain function. Best help is a " wake-up " call in the morning, while still

debating with myself to get up or not - yet! - because that raises the blood

pressure right away...LOL. No telephone talk at night before bed, or I

can't fall asleep...

Before boring you much longer, - Here it's bedtime.......

Charlotte

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brain perk up technique

> This is for the extreme alkaline gals. I couldn't' get my brain to

> wake up today. I've been doing vinegar baths and skin brushing, but

> I didn't do it today. I only went for a hard ride and did skin

> brushing.

>

> I finally had a hot vinegar bath. My brain is back now. And I can

> type quickly again and my touch of carpel tunnel is gone.

>

> Less alkaline and more acid and the sympathetic system kicks in better.

> It's like using E (-:

>

> Laurel

>

>

> click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/

>

> **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not intended as

> medical advice.**

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Hi Charlotte (-: I had bad teeth as a child too.  At 6 I got a root canal!   I look at my reaction to this extremely acid diet (with supplemental calcium, phosphoric acid, and apple cider vinegar, and red meat and wild salmon and no leafy green veggies) and realize there was no way I was going to be normal in this culture!  Who would tell a kid to eat meat all day and chew on bones!  Well, at least not these days. Maybe you just couldn't get enough calcium for your needs!!!!  I spent my first 7 years in Alberta in the 60's with lots of food.  My teeth were a mess too.  Just so you know.  You can't test blood PH with ph test strips.  The saliva, the urine, and the respiration are our body adjusting.  We can tell by looking at the ANS and how we respond to acid or alkaline food.  If you are nearly drinking acid when under stress, then you are very likely a carnivore.  A diet full of meat and root vegitbalbes is very acid forming which a meat eater needs.   It gives the carnivore the push and lights up the brain.  Karima noted that perhaps the carnivore woman has a different hormone profile?  From what I understand the hunter gatherers didn't need as many babies as the herbivore.  I haven't talked to any carnivore women who were really glowing in pregnancy.  I had huge placenta that reduced me to a being that would have been better in a cave for 9 months.  The parasympathetic system is forefront in the night and is the system of repair and rebuild.  The carnivores that I know have great muscles.  Nuimom is a carnivore.  She is little wee, but she said she always used to make muscle so easily, before she got slammed by P.  Dr. G says the carnivore gals are P dominant or at least don't get enough E because the glands don't get enough stimulation and their livers clear  the E out so fast at night.  Carnivore women need to eat the whole animal to be balanced and healthy.  Well fed carnivores can be the healthiest people on the planet (look at the Canadian Inuit), but feed them poptarts and cherry coke and they turn to alcohol to grasping to get something to get to wake up the brain or turn off the pain. )-:   All creatures out of our element?BTW, parasymps tend to wake up in the evening.    Laureln Sep 6, 2006, at 9:23 PM, Charlotte N. wrote:Hi Gals,I wholeheartedly second for myself what Liz says about her body, i.e. getting skinny around 9 or 10, always lacking real "go-power", so to say, a quiet, hesitant, introvert child with frequent health issues... With 16 I got all my teeth inlay-ed (lack of calcium absorption ability, and little to eat  after the WWII). Easily stressed by just daily life, the body forever trying to "cope" as needed, and becoming acidic. I've never had the perfect ph- number, even when I tried hard with a "perfect diet" - in fact I seemed to crave/need some acidic food to give me strengh, ="umph", to push myself. Strange creatures we all are, each with our own, mostly unconscious/secret reasons/challenges to "explore and master" life in one way or another....Anyway, it's nice to sometimes find company with "another weirdo like ourselves", since we seem to be the "one and only  creature troubled this way" among our family and friends, who can only shake their heads in disbelief, when they ask us to share our physical "hang-ups". Love,Charlotte_______________ 

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Are you sure you are an acid gal?  If you can't get to sleep and you love acid food I'm hearing carnivore which means your blood is more alkaline than a balanced woman.  Do you like meat?  BTW, have you built up your calcium yet?  LaurelAnd Laurel, you say you're alkaline ?I - an "acidic"blood girl - have used the skin brushing trick for 25 years morning and night, can't exist without it... And it takes about 2 hours in the morning including floor exercises, shower, and the Alan Bates' eye-sunning treatment (against dry eyes), and tea and a piece of fruit, (EFAs, DMAE and Gingko for brain and vascular), before I'm ready to fully brain function. Best help is a "wake-up" call in the morning, while still debating with myself to get up or not - yet! - because that raises the blood pressure right away...LOL. No telephone talk at night before bed, or I can't fall asleep...Before boring you much longer, - Here it's bedtime.......Charlotte------------------------- brain perk up technique> This is for the extreme alkaline gals. I couldn't' get my brain to> wake up today. I've been doing vinegar baths and skin brushing, but> I didn't do it today. I only went for a hard ride and did skin> brushing.>> I finally had a hot vinegar bath. My brain is back now. And I can> type quickly again and my touch of carpel tunnel is gone.>> Less alkaline and more acid and the sympathetic system kicks in better.> It's like using E (-:>> Laurel>>> click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/>> **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not intended as > medical advice.**>