Re: Must Read for All IMHO

[Guest guest]

Well I just bought Vliet's book. Boy it's a big one! And they told

me it was never put into paperback. How does this ' book

differ from vliet?

>

>

> Someone here or on 's list mentioned this was her favorite

book on

> HRT, I am not sure, but I ordered it immediately! (Thank you, and

if you are

> here tell me who you are!)

>

> Now I am almost finished with what will be MY new favorite book on

HRT,

> along with the Shame' new book.

>

>

>

> Discover Your Menopause Type, by ph , ND

>

> The exciting new program that identifies the 12 unique Menopause

types and

> the Best Choices for You.

>

>

>

> Back cover reads:

>

> Take Charge of Your Menopause!

>

>

>

> This groundbreaking book- the first to reveal 12 distinct

menopause types

> and how best to treat each

>

> -gives you the information you need to take charge of this

challenging and

> sensitive life stage.

>

> Inside, Dr. ph demolishes the " one size fits all "

philosophy of

> menopause treatment.

>

> Revealing that there is no magic hormone or combination of

hormones that

> can be indiscriminately prescribed to all women.

>

>

>

> Inside, You'll discover:

>

> Natural & conventional treatments that are best for you. Necessary

Nutrients

> for a Healthy Menopause. How to weight the risks and benefits of

HRT and

> more.

>

>

>

>

>

> ph , ND practices in a multi-disciplinary clinic in

Roswell Ga.

> That offers conventional and alternative medicine choices for

menopause,

> andropause, adrenal fatigue, thyroid dysfunction, insulin

resistance, and

> fatigue disorder. He is also a clinical consultant to the

diagnostic

> laboratory, nutraceutial, and pharmacy industries.

>

>

>

> Inside he describes 12 very different woman's experiences of life

and revels

> whether they have low or high E, T and P. The various combinations

provided

> the 12 differing type.

>

> Next there is a questionnaire for you too fill out with 7

sections. These

> scores help you to figure out which type you are.

>

> Then, you can go to that section and he provides herbs,

homeopathy, vitamin,

> and mineral, as well as hormone help for that type.

>

>

>

> Then I read all the types to learn more, and it was so

interesting. He talks

> about the ratio's of E to P. and what they should be. It is very

important

> stuff. He says on page 168 " I have included a lot of detailed

information in

> this book so that you can create your own personalized health-care

program,

> with the help of your health-care provider when necessary. You can

eliminate

> menopausal symptoms once you understand how hormones work, which

ones are

> out of balance in your body, and what treatments are available. "

>

>

>

> He states the effects of medications, minerals, vitamins; herbs

and food

> have on your E P T and adrenal glands.

>

> He states the effects of E P T on Adrenals glands the thyroid and

each

> other.

>

>

>

> I sure hope he is right, because this book has taken hormones to

the next

> level of understanding for me.

>

>

>

> nne

[Guest guest]

No I guess not. So soy is counterproductive to thyroid. Then I

don't know why any doctor would authorize its use.

> > >

> > >

> > > Someone here or on 's list mentioned this

> > was her favorite

> > book on

> > > HRT, I am not sure, but I ordered it immediately!

> > (Thank you, and

> > if you are

> > > here tell me who you are!)

> > >

> > > Now I am almost finished with what will be MY new

> > favorite book on

> > HRT,

> > > along with the Shame' new book.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Discover Your Menopause Type, by ph ,

> > ND

> > >

> > > The exciting new program that identifies the 12

> > unique Menopause

> > types and

> > > the Best Choices for You.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Back cover reads:

> > >

> > > Take Charge of Your Menopause!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > This groundbreaking book- the first to reveal 12

> > distinct

> > menopause types

> > > and how best to treat each

> > >

> > > -gives you the information you need to take charge

> > of this

> > challenging and

> > > sensitive life stage.

> > >

> > > Inside, Dr. ph demolishes the " one

> > size fits all "

> > philosophy of

> > > menopause treatment.

> > >

> > > Revealing that there is no magic hormone or

> > combination of

> > hormones that

> > > can be indiscriminately prescribed to all women.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Inside, You'll discover:

> > >

> > > Natural & conventional treatments that are best

> > for you. Necessary

> > Nutrients

> > > for a Healthy Menopause. How to weight the risks

> > and benefits of

> > HRT and

> > > more.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ph , ND practices in a

> > multi-disciplinary clinic in

> > Roswell Ga.

> > > That offers conventional and alternative medicine

> > choices for

> > menopause,

> > > andropause, adrenal fatigue, thyroid dysfunction,

> > insulin

> > resistance, and

> > > fatigue disorder. He is also a clinical consultant

> > to the

> > diagnostic

> > > laboratory, nutraceutial, and pharmacy industries.

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Inside he describes 12 very different woman's

> > experiences of life

> > and revels

> > > whether they have low or high E, T and P. The

> > various combinations

> > provided

> > > the 12 differing type.

> > >

> > > Next there is a questionnaire for you too fill out

> > with 7

> > sections. These

> > > scores help you to figure out which type you are.

> > >

> > > Then, you can go to that section and he provides

> > herbs,

> > homeopathy, vitamin,

> > > and mineral, as well as hormone help for that

> > type.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Then I read all the types to learn more, and it

> > was so

> > interesting. He talks

> > > about the ratio's of E to P. and what they should

> > be. It is very

> > important

> > > stuff. He says on page 168 " I have included a lot

> > of detailed

> > information in

> > > this book so that you can create your own

> > personalized health-care

> > program,

> > > with the help of your health-care provider when

> > necessary. You can

> > eliminate

> > > menopausal symptoms once you understand how

> > hormones work, which

> > ones are

> > > out of balance in your body, and what treatments

> > are available. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > He states the effects of medications, minerals,

> > vitamins; herbs

> > and food

> > > have on your E P T and adrenal glands.

> > >

> > > He states the effects of E P T on Adrenals glands

> > the thyroid and

> > each

> > > other.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I sure hope he is right, because this book has

> > taken hormones to

> > the next

> > > level of understanding for me.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > nne

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

One of the " life's little lessons " I have learned over

the past few years is the astounding discovery that,

geez....I am stunned at things that most doctors' do

NOT know. I mean, here I am, a lowly patient...how

come I know, from several different confirmed sources,

that soy blocks estrogen. Huh?

I mean, I'M not a medical professional, that's the

DOC'S business to know these things. Not. But we grew

up thinking that doctors, like pastors or priests, or

all the other " big grown ups " knew more than we little

people did. I could, myself, write a book about the

last six months of my travels through half dozen

specialist's clinics, including the Mayo Clinic. AT

some point, it began to dawn on me that often I was

coming into the appointment knowing more about current

understanding than the doc himself had!! Now THAT is

quite an epiphany!!

Please understand, I am no where near saying that

physicians are not walking wonders of medical

education and ability. I could not hold a candle to

their intellectual ability. But we are talking here

about another type of essence - a knowledge and

understanding and wisdom that goes beyond mere

intellect. And they are not gods, they do not all have

time to keep up, and often they do not care to do so!

As with all things in life, I have found that the

quality is in the very small minority. Carolyn

p.s. Shoman is one place of thyroid info per soy,

and the Vliet book is another. I have no doubt that

there are many many more if one cared to research. The

burden of due diligence will always rest on the

shoulders of the patient.

--- wrote:

> No I guess not. So soy is counterproductive to

> thyroid. Then I

> don't know why any doctor would authorize its use.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Someone here or on 's list mentioned

> this

> > > was her favorite

> > > book on

> > > > HRT, I am not sure, but I ordered it

> immediately!

> > > (Thank you, and

> > > if you are

> > > > here tell me who you are!)

> > > >

> > > > Now I am almost finished with what will be MY

> new

> > > favorite book on

> > > HRT,

> > > > along with the Shame' new book.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Discover Your Menopause Type, by ph

> ,

> > > ND

> > > >

> > > > The exciting new program that identifies the

> 12

> > > unique Menopause

> > > types and

> > > > the Best Choices for You.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Back cover reads:

> > > >

> > > > Take Charge of Your Menopause!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > This groundbreaking book- the first to reveal

> 12

> > > distinct

> > > menopause types

> > > > and how best to treat each

> > > >

> > > > -gives you the information you need to take

> charge

> > > of this

> > > challenging and

> > > > sensitive life stage.

> > > >

> > > > Inside, Dr. ph demolishes the

> " one

> > > size fits all "

> > > philosophy of

> > > > menopause treatment.

> > > >

> > > > Revealing that there is no magic hormone or

> > > combination of

> > > hormones that

> > > > can be indiscriminately prescribed to all

> women.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Inside, You'll discover:

> > > >

> > > > Natural & conventional treatments that are

> best

> > > for you. Necessary

> > > Nutrients

> > > > for a Healthy Menopause. How to weight the

> risks

> > > and benefits of

> > > HRT and

> > > > more.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ph , ND practices in a

> > > multi-disciplinary clinic in

> > > Roswell Ga.

> > > > That offers conventional and alternative

> medicine

> > > choices for

> > > menopause,

> > > > andropause, adrenal fatigue, thyroid

> dysfunction,

> > > insulin

> > > resistance, and

> > > > fatigue disorder. He is also a clinical

> consultant

> > > to the

> > > diagnostic

> > > > laboratory, nutraceutial, and pharmacy

> industries.

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Inside he describes 12 very different woman's

> > > experiences of life

> > > and revels

> > > > whether they have low or high E, T and P. The

> > > various combinations

> > > provided

> > > > the 12 differing type.

> > > >

> > > > Next there is a questionnaire for you too fill

> out

> > > with 7

> > > sections. These

> > > > scores help you to figure out which type you

> are.

> > > >

> > > > Then, you can go to that section and he

> provides

> > > herbs,

> > > homeopathy, vitamin,

> > > > and mineral, as well as hormone help for that

> > > type.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Then I read all the types to learn more, and

> it

> > > was so

> > > interesting. He talks

> > > > about the ratio's of E to P. and what they

> should

>

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[Guest guest]

Just remember that half of the physicians, NDs, nutritionists, nurses, etc., graduated in the bottom half of their classes.

Val

-----Original Message-----From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of carolyn eganPlease understand, I am no where near saying thatphysicians are not walking wonders of medicaleducation and ability.

[Guest guest]

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LADIES...DID YOU JUST HEAR WHAT SHE SAID???

TAKE THAT TO YOUR HORMONAL BANK ALL THE WAY!! Carolyn

--- Valarie wrote:

> Just remember that half of the physicians, NDs,

> nutritionists, nurses, etc.,

> graduated in the bottom half of their classes.

>

> Val

> -----Original Message-----

> From: rhythmicliving

> [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of

> carolyn egan

>

>

> Please understand, I am no where near saying that

> physicians are not walking wonders of medical

> education and ability.

>

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[Guest guest]

Carolyn, CALM DOWN! <ggg>

Val

-----Original Message-----

From: rhythmicliving

[mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of carolyn egan

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LADIES...DID YOU JUST HEAR WHAT SHE SAID???

TAKE THAT TO YOUR HORMONAL BANK ALL THE WAY!! Carolyn

--- Valarie wrote:

> Just remember that half of the physicians, NDs,

> nutritionists, nurses, etc.,

> graduated in the bottom half of their classes.

[Guest guest]

Thank you Val!! I am not sure if it is my P-Brain full

of toxic overload...or the fact that some really

difficult family circumstances just landed in our lap

today, this very morning, as parents!! You know, life

seemed, by comparison, so easy when the children were

small, and we would go to see them in their sweet

school plays.

Now they are middle aged, with children of their

own,with middled aged crises....and it seems to be

even more difficult, now, to be a parent with a child

going through a mid-life crisis. (Hey, maybe she just

needs some E after her hysterectomy?? Sorry, I am

really just very tongue-in-cheek here! We female

" elder of the tribes " need to have our OWN act

together very well, do we not...so that we are able to

be calm and wise role models for the next generation.

Love, Carolyn

--- Valarie wrote:

> Carolyn, CALM DOWN! <ggg>

>

> Val

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: rhythmicliving

> [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of

> carolyn egan

>

>

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>

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>

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>

> LADIES...DID YOU JUST HEAR WHAT SHE SAID???

> TAKE THAT TO YOUR HORMONAL BANK ALL THE WAY!!

> Carolyn

>

> --- Valarie wrote:

>

> > Just remember that half of the physicians, NDs,

> > nutritionists, nurses, etc.,

> > graduated in the bottom half of their classes.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Just remember that half of the physicians, NDs, nutritionists, nurses, etc., graduated in the bottom half of their classes.

Val

Val:

I have worked around a lot of physicians and hospital personnel and I sure can vouch for that. A lot of these MD's barely made it through medical school and really have no idea how the human body works in synergy. They are cook book physicians.

Sammie

[Guest guest]

Val...hard to describe how validating that statement

is for most of our experiences, as well! Thank you..

Carolyn

--- Sami4ESP@... wrote:

> In a message dated 9/7/2005 5:49:14 PM US Mountain

> Standard Time,

> val@... writes:

> Just remember that half of the physicians, NDs,

> nutritionists, nurses, etc.,

> graduated in the bottom half of their classes.

>

> Val

> Val:

> I have worked around a lot of physicians and

> hospital personnel and I sure

> can vouch for that. A lot of these MD's barely made

> it through medical school

> and really have no idea how the human body works in

> synergy. They are cook

> book physicians.

> Sammie

>

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