Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Yes, I am too reading The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety and am learning a great deal. This board and people's contribution provide a great wealth of information and encouragement sharing their experiences, insights etc: I have benefited from other's discussions, their understanding and expressions of mindfulness practice, and ACT principles. Example, the values area I have struggled with and continue to struggle, acting in a way which reflects my values. I have found resources here that have helped me and encouraged me when at times I have felt lost, unsure. It has helped in my understanding and application of mindfulness and ACT principals when I am working with understanding and applying the exercises to my life. I can be mulling over something I read in a ACT books not quite getting, I can read something on this board, related or indirectly related to my issue - and the light goes on - I get it... because some one explained something in a way that I can relate to. This may sound corny, but it is meant with all sincerity... Thank you everyone for taking the time to read, write and share on this board. Best to all, Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am "hard-wired" to be anxious).I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Thanks for the nice post. Sometimes I wonder if there are more than just a few people "out there." Bill To: ACT_for_the_Public From: bahurwood@...Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:05:42 -0300Subject: Re: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Yes, I am too reading The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety and am learning a great deal. This board and people's contribution provide a great wealth of information and encouragement sharing their experiences, insights etc: I have benefited from other's discussions, their understanding and expressions of mindfulness practice, and ACT principles. Example, the values area I have struggled with and continue to struggle, acting in a way which reflects my values. I have found resources here that have helped me and encouraged me when at times I have felt lost, unsure. It has helped in my understanding and application of mindfulness and ACT principals when I am working with understanding and applying the exercises to my life. I can be mulling over something I read in a ACT books not quite getting, I can read something on this board, related or indirectly related to my issue - and the light goes on - I get it... because some one explained something in a way that I can relate to. This may sound corny, but it is meant with all sincerity... Thank you everyone for taking the time to read, write and share on this board. Best to all, Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am "hard-wired" to be anxious).I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 I'm reading "My Stroke of Insight" by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to "rewire" her brain to bypass some "files" she decided were "not helpful." The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know "what's under the hood" or "what's behind the curtain." This book is providing that. Bill To: ACT_for_the_Public From: hpapyt@...Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000Subject: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am "hard-wired" to be anxious).I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Hi Bill, I haven't read 'Stroke of insight', but I am reading 'Change your Brain, Change your Life', by Amen. I too, like you are interested in 'whats under the hood', and this subject has interested me for sometime. Change Your Brain is all about how certain disorders ie, depression/anxiety etc are caused by certain parts of the brain not functioning properly - this is evidenced by 'spect' images or brain scans. In the books it shows some interesting images of peoples brains with different disorders and highlights the part that is not working right. He advocates drug treatment alongside other stuff to look after your brain - meditation/relaxation, drinking water/positive attitude and loads of other things. It got me thinking - oh well, may as well just pop a pill and make it all better - but then, with a little effort I believe it is possible to change the structure of the brain through meditation. I know that the Dalai Lama has done much research into this and there are some interesting books on the subject. Because I am interested in brain science I am working with Open Focus which you may have heard me talk about in another post - that too, is geared towards changing the brain in subtle ways, through brain waves and wide/relaxed focus - its very interesting. A lot of people have benefited from it so I am giving it a go, alongside ACT. Sometimes just a nano-second before I have a panic I almost feel my brain 'fire off' - I am sure there is sometimes to all this! Its good to swap book ideas. Thanks for posting. I'll read Stroke of insight. Simone To: ACT_for_the_Public <act_for_the_public >Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 13:47:17Subject: RE: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety I'm reading "My Stroke of Insight" by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to "rewire" her brain to bypass some "files" she decided were "not helpful." The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know "what's under the hood" or "what's behind the curtain." This book is providing that. Bill To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comFrom: hpapythotmail (DOT) comDate: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000Subject: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am "hard-wired" to be anxious).I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Hi Simone, For what it’s worth, that book by Dr. Amen is considered quite controversial by the medical establishment—not that that makes it bad (and some might think it’s a plus!). I read it shortly after it was published in the late 90’s (I think). I found the book fascinating but not very useful for me; getting brain scans done for diagnostic purposes is not really accessible to me or the general population, nor covered by insurance, and to extrapolate his research results to the larger population is not warranted, IMO. Still, with these caveats, I liked the book and am glad I read it. I hope you don’t mind my sharing my thoughts here … it is not meant as criticism nor to discourage anyone from reading the book. Dr. Amen may be regarded as revolutionary in the future, or just another misled researcher! I also intend to read Stroke of Insight. I saw her on TV and was quite impressed with her story. Helena From: ACT_for_the_Public [mailto:ACT_for_the_Public ] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:17 PM To: ACT_for_the_Public Subject: Re: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Bill, I haven't read 'Stroke of insight', but I am reading 'Change your Brain, Change your Life', by Amen. I too, like you are interested in 'whats under the hood', and this subject has interested me for sometime. Change Your Brain is all about how certain disorders ie, depression/anxiety etc are caused by certain parts of the brain not functioning properly - this is evidenced by 'spect' images or brain scans. In the books it shows some interesting images of peoples brains with different disorders and highlights the part that is not working right. He advocates drug treatment alongside other stuff to look after your brain - meditation/relaxation, drinking water/positive attitude and loads of other things. It got me thinking - oh well, may as well just pop a pill and make it all better - but then, with a little effort I believe it is possible to change the structure of the brain through meditation. I know that the Dalai Lama has done much research into this and there are some interesting books on the subject. Because I am interested in brain science I am working with Open Focus which you may have heard me talk about in another post - that too, is geared towards changing the brain in subtle ways, through brain waves and wide/relaxed focus - its very interesting. A lot of people have benefited from it so I am giving it a go, alongside ACT. Sometimes just a nano-second before I have a panic I almost feel my brain 'fire off' - I am sure there is sometimes to all this! Its good to swap book ideas. Thanks for posting. I'll read Stroke of insight. Simone To: ACT_for_the_Public <act_for_the_public > Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 13:47:17 Subject: RE: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety I'm reading " My Stroke of Insight " by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to " rewire " her brain to bypass some " files " she decided were " not helpful. " The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know " what's under the hood " or " what's behind the curtain. " This book is providing that. Bill To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com From: hpapythotmail (DOT) com Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000 Subject: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am " hard-wired " to be anxious). I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Hi Helena, I agree. Nipping out for a quick brain scan is not an option for most uf us! Hee hee. I kind of came to the same conclusion as you - an interesting book but as you say, controversial. Simone To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 19:06:17Subject: RE: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, For what it’s worth, that book by Dr. Amen is considered quite controversial by the medical establishment—not that that makes it bad (and some might think it’s a plus!). I read it shortly after it was published in the late 90’s (I think). I found the book fascinating but not very useful for me; getting brain scans done for diagnostic purposes is not really accessible to me or the general population, nor covered by insurance, and to extrapolate his research results to the larger population is not warranted, IMO. Still, with these caveats, I liked the book and am glad I read it. I hope you don’t mind my sharing my thoughts here … it is not meant as criticism nor to discourage anyone from reading the book. Dr. Amen may be regarded as revolutionary in the future, or just another misled researcher! I also intend to read Stroke of Insight. I saw her on TV and was quite impressed with her story. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:17 PMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Bill, I haven't read 'Stroke of insight', but I am reading 'Change your Brain, Change your Life', by Amen. I too, like you are interested in 'whats under the hood', and this subject has interested me for sometime. Change Your Brain is all about how certain disorders ie, depression/anxiety etc are caused by certain parts of the brain not functioning properly - this is evidenced by 'spect' images or brain scans. In the books it shows some interesting images of peoples brains with different disorders and highlights the part that is not working right. He advocates drug treatment alongside other stuff to look after your brain - meditation/relaxati on, drinking water/positive attitude and loads of other things. It got me thinking - oh well, may as well just pop a pill and make it all better - but then, with a little effort I believe it is possible to change the structure of the brain through meditation. I know that the Dalai Lama has done much research into this and there are some interesting books on the subject. Because I am interested in brain science I am working with Open Focus which you may have heard me talk about in another post - that too, is geared towards changing the brain in subtle ways, through brain waves and wide/relaxed focus - its very interesting. A lot of people have benefited from it so I am giving it a go, alongside ACT. Sometimes just a nano-second before I have a panic I almost feel my brain 'fire off' - I am sure there is sometimes to all this! Its good to swap book ideas. Thanks for posting. I'll read Stroke of insight. Simone From: BILL CAMERON <wcameromsn (DOT) com>To: ACT_for_the_ Public <act_for_the_ public@yahoogrou ps.com>Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 13:47:17Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety I'm reading "My Stroke of Insight" by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to "rewire" her brain to bypass some "files" she decided were "not helpful." The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT.. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know "what's under the hood" or "what's behind the curtain." This book is providing that. Bill To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comFrom: hpapythotmail (DOT) comDate: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000Subject: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am "hard-wired" to be anxious).I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Simone, how is the “Open Focus†work progressing for you? I’m glad you mentioned it again, because I forgot to look it up after your last post. Do you still have the link available? Thanks! Helena From: ACT_for_the_Public [mailto:ACT_for_the_Public ] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:36 PM To: ACT_for_the_Public Subject: Re: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I agree. Nipping out for a quick brain scan is not an option for most uf us! Hee hee. I kind of came to the same conclusion as you - an interesting book but as you say, controversial. Simone To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 19:06:17 Subject: RE: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, For what it’s worth, that book by Dr. Amen is considered quite controversial by the medical establishment—not that that makes it bad (and some might think it’s a plus!). I read it shortly after it was published in the late 90’s (I think). I found the book fascinating but not very useful for me; getting brain scans done for diagnostic purposes is not really accessible to me or the general population, nor covered by insurance, and to extrapolate his research results to the larger population is not warranted, IMO. Still, with these caveats, I liked the book and am glad I read it. I hope you don’t mind my sharing my thoughts here … it is not meant as criticism nor to discourage anyone from reading the book. Dr. Amen may be regarded as revolutionary in the future, or just another misled researcher! I also intend to read Stroke of Insight. I saw her on TV and was quite impressed with her story. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:17 PM To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Bill, I haven't read 'Stroke of insight', but I am reading 'Change your Brain, Change your Life', by Amen. I too, like you are interested in 'whats under the hood', and this subject has interested me for sometime. Change Your Brain is all about how certain disorders ie, depression/anxiety etc are caused by certain parts of the brain not functioning properly - this is evidenced by 'spect' images or brain scans. In the books it shows some interesting images of peoples brains with different disorders and highlights the part that is not working right. He advocates drug treatment alongside other stuff to look after your brain - meditation/relaxati on, drinking water/positive attitude and loads of other things. It got me thinking - oh well, may as well just pop a pill and make it all better - but then, with a little effort I believe it is possible to change the structure of the brain through meditation. I know that the Dalai Lama has done much research into this and there are some interesting books on the subject. Because I am interested in brain science I am working with Open Focus which you may have heard me talk about in another post - that too, is geared towards changing the brain in subtle ways, through brain waves and wide/relaxed focus - its very interesting. A lot of people have benefited from it so I am giving it a go, alongside ACT. Sometimes just a nano-second before I have a panic I almost feel my brain 'fire off' - I am sure there is sometimes to all this! Its good to swap book ideas. Thanks for posting. I'll read Stroke of insight. Simone From: BILL CAMERON <wcameromsn (DOT) com> To: ACT_for_the_ Public <act_for_the_ public@yahoogrou ps.com> Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 13:47:17 Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety I'm reading " My Stroke of Insight " by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to " rewire " her brain to bypass some " files " she decided were " not helpful. " The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT.. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know " what's under the hood " or " what's behind the curtain. " This book is providing that. Bill To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com From: hpapythotmail (DOT) com Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000 Subject: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am " hard-wired " to be anxious). I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Hi, Helena, I'll attach a review of the book. See what you think. Its early days for me at the moment, you have to commit to doing the exercises at least twice a day, which is a fair old chunk of time, but I am doing it as an experiment - some of the stories in the book were very impressive and I just want to find out for myself. Initial findings are positive! At the very least it is an extremely effective relaxation technique with real science behind it. The book has a Cd with it - so you can read it and do the exercises and then like me if you decide to go further you can do the whole set of exercises. I'd like to point out that I am doing this alongside ACT - so sorry to folks if I am going off topic a bit - sometimes it just can't be helped! Be interested to know what you think. Simone To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 23:16:39Subject: RE: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Simone, how is the “Open Focus†work progressing for you? I’m glad you mentioned it again, because I forgot to look it up after your last post. Do you still have the link available? Thanks! Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:36 PMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I agree. Nipping out for a quick brain scan is not an option for most uf us! Hee hee. I kind of came to the same conclusion as you - an interesting book but as you say, controversial. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 19:06:17Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, For what it’s worth, that book by Dr. Amen is considered quite controversial by the medical establishment—not that that makes it bad (and some might think it’s a plus!). I read it shortly after it was published in the late 90’s (I think). I found the book fascinating but not very useful for me; getting brain scans done for diagnostic purposes is not really accessible to me or the general population, nor covered by insurance, and to extrapolate his research results to the larger population is not warranted, IMO. Still, with these caveats, I liked the book and am glad I read it. I hope you don’t mind my sharing my thoughts here … it is not meant as criticism nor to discourage anyone from reading the book. Dr. Amen may be regarded as revolutionary in the future, or just another misled researcher! I also intend to read Stroke of Insight. I saw her on TV and was quite impressed with her story. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:17 PMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Bill, I haven't read 'Stroke of insight', but I am reading 'Change your Brain, Change your Life', by Amen. I too, like you are interested in 'whats under the hood', and this subject has interested me for sometime. Change Your Brain is all about how certain disorders ie, depression/anxiety etc are caused by certain parts of the brain not functioning properly - this is evidenced by 'spect' images or brain scans. In the books it shows some interesting images of peoples brains with different disorders and highlights the part that is not working right. He advocates drug treatment alongside other stuff to look after your brain - meditation/relaxati on, drinking water/positive attitude and loads of other things. It got me thinking - oh well, may as well just pop a pill and make it all better - but then, with a little effort I believe it is possible to change the structure of the brain through meditation. I know that the Dalai Lama has done much research into this and there are some interesting books on the subject. Because I am interested in brain science I am working with Open Focus which you may have heard me talk about in another post - that too, is geared towards changing the brain in subtle ways, through brain waves and wide/relaxed focus - its very interesting. A lot of people have benefited from it so I am giving it a go, alongside ACT. Sometimes just a nano-second before I have a panic I almost feel my brain 'fire off' - I am sure there is sometimes to all this! Its good to swap book ideas. Thanks for posting. I'll read Stroke of insight. Simone From: BILL CAMERON <wcameromsn (DOT) com>To: ACT_for_the_ Public <act_for_the_ public@yahoogrou ps.com>Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 13:47:17Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety I'm reading "My Stroke of Insight" by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to "rewire" her brain to bypass some "files" she decided were "not helpful." The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT.. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know "what's under the hood" or "what's behind the curtain." This book is providing that. Bill To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comFrom: hpapythotmail (DOT) comDate: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000Subject: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am "hard-wired" to be anxious).I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! A review by Copthorne Macdonald of Les Fehmi and Jim Robbins's book The Open-Focus BrainHarnessing the Power of Attention to Heal Mind and Body The Open-Focus Brain Harnessing the Power of Attention to Heal Mind and Bodyby Les Fehmi and Jim RobbinsTrumpeter Books / Shambhala (2007), 192 pagesISBN: 978-1-59030-376-4 Les Fehmi is one of the pioneers in brain-mind biofeedback. The objective back in the 1960s was to help subjects develop "alpha" brain waves. But even with feedback from the equipment, some found it difficult to locate and enter the mind space which caused alpha waves to be produced. In The Open Focus Brain, Les Fehmi recalls his 1971 attempts to help subjects generate alpha waves. Most things he tried had little effect, but when he asked the subject to imagine spaces, "high amplitude alpha appeared instantly." As he puts it, "'Objectless imagery'—the multisensory experience and awareness of space, nothingness, or absence—almost always elicits large amplitude and prolonged periods of phase synchronous alpha activity." During the 1970s Fehmi developed and recorded a series of exercises that involved imagining space in various contexts and which successfully talked subjects into the synchronous-alpha state. The strong correlation between observed brain wave type (alpha, beta, theta) and the way the subject was attending became obvious. Was the mode of attending perhaps the fundamentally important thing, with brain waves secondary? The Open-Focus Brain is Les Fehmi's affirmative answer to that question. The book's thesis is that our style of attentiveness is crucially important, and that the way we attend to things most of the time — a left-brain "narrow-objective" mode of attending — can, and often does, lead to mental and physical distress. The authors explain that "narrow-objective attention is focusing on one or a few important things in the foreground, and dismissing all other stimuli, making everything else the background." They go on to say, "While narrow-objective focus allows us to perform some tasks very well, it is also physiologically and psychologically expensive because chronic use results in the accumulation of stress. It takes a great deal of energy to maintain this type of attention, even though we usually aren't aware of it." They refer to narrow-objective focus as "an emergency mode of attention," that creates stress and stress-related symptoms. These, they say, can be resolved by Open Focus training. There are other modes of attending, and the authors discuss these. The opposite of objective attention which distances you from the object of your attention is immersed attention in which there is little or no separation. The opposite of narrow attention in which attention is restricted to one or a few things is diffuse attention which "in its most extreme form...is inclusive and three-dimensional, giving equal attention to all internal and external stimuli simultaneously as well as the space, silence, and timelessness in which they occur." Fehmi and Robbins note that "both diffuse and immersed attention are organized by the right hemisphere of the brain," and in Open Focus, both are developed. As they put it, "In Open Focus our attention is inclusive—sights, sounds, and other sensory information are all taken in along with space in a broadly interested way; no one sensory signal is focused on to the exclusion of the others." Another plus: "Open Focus allows us to be aware of how we are attending, which allows us to decide on and quickly emphasize the most appropriate styles to use." The book not only talks about this desirable Open Focus way of attending, it also gives us well-honed exercises for developing it. In a back pocket of the book is a CD which contains an introduction, instructions, and two exercises. The 29-minute track 3 exercise, "Head and Hands in Open Focus," introduces the approach and gets us familiar with paying attention to bodily sensations. The 27-minute track 4 exercise, "General Open Focus Training," talks us into the Open Focus mode of attending. In the book itself are other, more specialized exercises that could be read, with proper timing, into an audio recorder. Included are "Expanding Your Awareness of Visual Space," "Dissolving Pain," "Heart-Centered Open Focus," "Thinking in Open Focus," and "Seeing in Open Focus." These and other exercises are also available prerecorded on CDs at http://www.openfocus.biz/cds.html. SPIRITUAL PRACTICES AND OPEN FOCUS My own introduction to Open Focus took place in the early 1980s when I explored its potential as a tool for spiritual development. Buddhist meditation techniques such as Vipassana and Dzogchen are attentiveness training practices. In Vipassana you begin by narrowly focusing on breath sensations and gradually widen the field of attention until it takes in whatever is arising in the mind. In Dzogchen meditation (an advanced practice) you go immediately into that wide-angle, all-inclusive mode of attending and hang out there. Both are highly worthwhile practices, but to develop the ability to enter that open-to-everything mindset at will requires an extended period of prior practice. By the time I heard about Les Fehmi's Open Focus tapes I had already attended several Vipassana retreats. I bought a set of tapes, and when I started using them I was immediately impressed by how effective they were. If I diligently followed the suggestions being made on the tape, at the end of the half-hour lesson I would invariably be in the Open Focus mode of attending to mind contents. That was rarely the case when I spent an equal amount of time doing Vipassana meditation. Better yet, after using the tapes daily for several weeks I found that in everyday life circumstances I was able to switch at will between narrow-focus attention and Open Focus — something I had not yet developed the ability to do in my meditation practice. When I recently obtained a copy of The Open-Focus Brain and its companion CD I was delighted. It now seems likely that this powerful technique will finally get the widespread recognition it deserves. For book purchase information visit the Trumpeter Books / Shambhala web site or Amazon.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 I have just got the book and it seems excellent. Not is only chronic depression and anxiety can be cured by the technique but also ADD and ADHD as well. As you know, psychaitrists consider these disorders to be physical (the medical model) but it just isn't the case. Les Fehmi, the author isn't so scathing of psychiatry as me but he says that biofeedback techniques aren't widely used because that isn't psychiatry's speciality even though these techniques have been shown to be very effective for over 30 years. Well it should have been but doctors would rather prescribe a load of useless and dangerous drugs because anyone - at far more competives rates - can teach relaxation and biofeedback techniques. We've been conned, and it is too late for some of us who have been permantly harmed by the profession. I think the open focus technique is going to greatly help my ACT work as my tension has made mindfulness so difficult. I can see that because my mind races so much, I have been using a narrow field of observing (intense concentration on being mindful because otherwise I just couldn't be mindful) which always produces more tension and eventually distress. Now I am trying to be mindful of everything at once, my breath, my body, the open space around me, depth of field, the space within my body, the temperature etc, and it feels rather nice. It is a difused form of mindfulness which is a more natural and relaxed state for me. You can even do this reading, or while doing other things, which brings relaxation to it. I also bought he Mindlefulness in Plain English book also recommended here and it is superb. Thanks everyone for the recommendations. By the way, I still hold some hope that my brain can recover from the damage caused by antidepressants when I start to feel better and my cortisol levels have returned to normal. Kavy > > Simone, how is the “Open Focus†work progressing for you? I’m glad you mentioned it again, because I forgot to look it up after your last post. Do you still have the link available? > > Thanks! > > Helena > > > > > From: ACT_for_the_Public [mailto:ACT_for_the_Public ] On Behalf Of Stolton > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:36 PM > To: ACT_for_the_Public > Subject: Re: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Hi Helena, > > I agree. Nipping out for a quick brain scan is not an option for most uf us! Hee hee. I kind of came to the same conclusion as you - an interesting book but as you say, controversial. > > Simone > > _____ > > > To: ACT_for_the_Public > Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 19:06:17 > Subject: RE: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Hi Simone, > > For what it’s worth, that book by Dr. Amen is considered quite controversial by the medical establishment†" not that that makes it bad (and some might think it’s a plus!). I read it shortly after it was published in the late 90’s (I think). > > I found the book fascinating but not very useful for me; getting brain scans done for diagnostic purposes is not really accessible to me or the general population, nor covered by insurance, and to extrapolate his research results to the larger population is not warranted, IMO. Still, with these caveats, I liked the book and am glad I read it. > > I hope you don’t mind my sharing my thoughts here … it is not meant as criticism nor to discourage anyone from reading the book. Dr. Amen may be regarded as revolutionary in the future, or just another misled researcher! > > I also intend to read Stroke of Insight. I saw her on TV and was quite impressed with her story. > > Helena > > > > From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:17 PM > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Hi Bill, > I haven't read 'Stroke of insight', but I am reading 'Change your Brain, Change your Life', by Amen. I too, like you are interested in 'whats under the hood', and this subject has interested me for sometime. Change Your Brain is all about how certain disorders ie, depression/anxiety etc are caused by certain parts of the brain not functioning properly - this is evidenced by 'spect' images or brain scans. In the books it shows some interesting images of peoples brains with different disorders and highlights the part that is not working right. He advocates drug treatment alongside other stuff to look after your brain - meditation/relaxati on, drinking water/positive attitude and loads of other things. > It got me thinking - oh well, may as well just pop a pill and make it all better - but then, with a little effort I believe it is possible to change the structure of the brain through meditation. I know that the Dalai Lama has done much research into this and there are some interesting books on the subject. Because I am interested in brain science I am working with Open Focus which you may have heard me talk about in another post - that too, is geared towards changing the brain in subtle ways, through brain waves and wide/relaxed focus - its very interesting. A lot of people have benefited from it so I am giving it a go, alongside ACT. > Sometimes just a nano-second before I have a panic I almost feel my brain 'fire off' - I am sure there is sometimes to all this! > Its good to swap book ideas. Thanks for posting. I'll read Stroke of insight. > > Simone > > _____ > > From: BILL CAMERON <wcameromsn (DOT) com> > To: ACT_for_the_ Public <act_for_the_ public@yahoogrou ps.com> > Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 13:47:17 > Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > I'm reading " My Stroke of Insight " by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to " rewire " her brain to bypass some " files " she decided were " not helpful. " The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT.. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know " what's under the hood " or " what's behind the curtain. " This book is providing that. > > Bill > > _____ > > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > From: hpapythotmail (DOT) com > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000 > Subject: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am " hard-wired " to be anxious). > > I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Hi Simone, Thanks so much! I ordered the book and CD from Amazon.com. Can’t wait to delve in. The reader reviews were excellent. Helena From: ACT_for_the_Public [mailto:ACT_for_the_Public ] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:30 AM To: ACT_for_the_Public Subject: Re: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi, Helena, I'll attach a review of the book. See what you think. Its early days for me at the moment, you have to commit to doing the exercises at least twice a day, which is a fair old chunk of time, but I am doing it as an experiment - some of the stories in the book were very impressive and I just want to find out for myself. Initial findings are positive! At the very least it is an extremely effective relaxation technique with real science behind it. The book has a Cd with it - so you can read it and do the exercises and then like me if you decide to go further you can do the whole set of exercises. I'd like to point out that I am doing this alongside ACT - so sorry to folks if I am going off topic a bit - sometimes it just can't be helped! Be interested to know what you think. Simone To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 23:16:39 Subject: RE: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Simone, how is the “Open Focus†work progressing for you? I’m glad you mentioned it again, because I forgot to look it up after your last post. Do you still have the link available? Thanks! Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:36 PM To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I agree. Nipping out for a quick brain scan is not an option for most uf us! Hee hee. I kind of came to the same conclusion as you - an interesting book but as you say, controversial. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 19:06:17 Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, For what it’s worth, that book by Dr. Amen is considered quite controversial by the medical establishment—not that that makes it bad (and some might think it’s a plus!). I read it shortly after it was published in the late 90’s (I think). I found the book fascinating but not very useful for me; getting brain scans done for diagnostic purposes is not really accessible to me or the general population, nor covered by insurance, and to extrapolate his research results to the larger population is not warranted, IMO. Still, with these caveats, I liked the book and am glad I read it. I hope you don’t mind my sharing my thoughts here … it is not meant as criticism nor to discourage anyone from reading the book. Dr. Amen may be regarded as revolutionary in the future, or just another misled researcher! I also intend to read Stroke of Insight. I saw her on TV and was quite impressed with her story. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:17 PM To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Bill, I haven't read 'Stroke of insight', but I am reading 'Change your Brain, Change your Life', by Amen. I too, like you are interested in 'whats under the hood', and this subject has interested me for sometime. Change Your Brain is all about how certain disorders ie, depression/anxiety etc are caused by certain parts of the brain not functioning properly - this is evidenced by 'spect' images or brain scans. In the books it shows some interesting images of peoples brains with different disorders and highlights the part that is not working right. He advocates drug treatment alongside other stuff to look after your brain - meditation/relaxati on, drinking water/positive attitude and loads of other things. It got me thinking - oh well, may as well just pop a pill and make it all better - but then, with a little effort I believe it is possible to change the structure of the brain through meditation. I know that the Dalai Lama has done much research into this and there are some interesting books on the subject. Because I am interested in brain science I am working with Open Focus which you may have heard me talk about in another post - that too, is geared towards changing the brain in subtle ways, through brain waves and wide/relaxed focus - its very interesting. A lot of people have benefited from it so I am giving it a go, alongside ACT. Sometimes just a nano-second before I have a panic I almost feel my brain 'fire off' - I am sure there is sometimes to all this! Its good to swap book ideas. Thanks for posting. I'll read Stroke of insight. Simone From: BILL CAMERON <wcameromsn (DOT) com> To: ACT_for_the_ Public <act_for_the_ public@yahoogrou ps.com> Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 13:47:17 Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety I'm reading " My Stroke of Insight " by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to " rewire " her brain to bypass some " files " she decided were " not helpful. " The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT.. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know " what's under the hood " or " what's behind the curtain. " This book is providing that. Bill To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com From: hpapythotmail (DOT) com Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000 Subject: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am " hard-wired " to be anxious). I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! 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Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Hi Helena, I'd be interested to see how you get on. We could backchannel about this if you like. Simone To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009 19:59:28Subject: RE: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, Thanks so much! I ordered the book and CD from Amazon.com. Can’t wait to delve in. The reader reviews were excellent. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:30 AMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi, Helena, I'll attach a review of the book. See what you think. Its early days for me at the moment, you have to commit to doing the exercises at least twice a day, which is a fair old chunk of time, but I am doing it as an experiment - some of the stories in the book were very impressive and I just want to find out for myself. Initial findings are positive! At the very least it is an extremely effective relaxation technique with real science behind it. The book has a Cd with it - so you can read it and do the exercises and then like me if you decide to go further you can do the whole set of exercises. I'd like to point out that I am doing this alongside ACT - so sorry to folks if I am going off topic a bit - sometimes it just can't be helped! Be interested to know what you think. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 23:16:39Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Simone, how is the “Open Focus†work progressing for you? I’m glad you mentioned it again, because I forgot to look it up after your last post.. Do you still have the link available? Thanks! Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:36 PMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I agree. Nipping out for a quick brain scan is not an option for most uf us! Hee hee. I kind of came to the same conclusion as you - an interesting book but as you say, controversial. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 19:06:17Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, For what it’s worth, that book by Dr. Amen is considered quite controversial by the medical establishment—not that that makes it bad (and some might think it’s a plus!). I read it shortly after it was published in the late 90’s (I think). I found the book fascinating but not very useful for me; getting brain scans done for diagnostic purposes is not really accessible to me or the general population, nor covered by insurance, and to extrapolate his research results to the larger population is not warranted, IMO. Still, with these caveats, I liked the book and am glad I read it. I hope you don’t mind my sharing my thoughts here … it is not meant as criticism nor to discourage anyone from reading the book. Dr. Amen may be regarded as revolutionary in the future, or just another misled researcher! I also intend to read Stroke of Insight. I saw her on TV and was quite impressed with her story. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:17 PMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Bill, I haven't read 'Stroke of insight', but I am reading 'Change your Brain, Change your Life', by Amen. I too, like you are interested in 'whats under the hood', and this subject has interested me for sometime. Change Your Brain is all about how certain disorders ie, depression/anxiety etc are caused by certain parts of the brain not functioning properly - this is evidenced by 'spect' images or brain scans. In the books it shows some interesting images of peoples brains with different disorders and highlights the part that is not working right. He advocates drug treatment alongside other stuff to look after your brain - meditation/relaxati on, drinking water/positive attitude and loads of other things. It got me thinking - oh well, may as well just pop a pill and make it all better - but then, with a little effort I believe it is possible to change the structure of the brain through meditation. I know that the Dalai Lama has done much research into this and there are some interesting books on the subject. Because I am interested in brain science I am working with Open Focus which you may have heard me talk about in another post - that too, is geared towards changing the brain in subtle ways, through brain waves and wide/relaxed focus - its very interesting. A lot of people have benefited from it so I am giving it a go, alongside ACT.. Sometimes just a nano-second before I have a panic I almost feel my brain 'fire off' - I am sure there is sometimes to all this! Its good to swap book ideas. Thanks for posting. I'll read Stroke of insight. Simone From: BILL CAMERON <wcameromsn (DOT) com>To: ACT_for_the_ Public <act_for_the_ public@yahoogrou ps.com>Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 13:47:17Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety I'm reading "My Stroke of Insight" by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to "rewire" her brain to bypass some "files" she decided were "not helpful." The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT.. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know "what's under the hood" or "what's behind the curtain." This book is providing that. Bill To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comFrom: hpapythotmail (DOT) comDate: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000Subject: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am "hard-wired" to be anxious).I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Yes, I would love to! I may not have the book for about ten days, since I took free shipping, which is slower. I’ll email you privately when I am able to get started with the exchange of thoughts…looking forward to it! Helena From: ACT_for_the_Public [mailto:ACT_for_the_Public ] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:19 AM To: ACT_for_the_Public Subject: Re: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I'd be interested to see how you get on. We could backchannel about this if you like. Simone To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009 19:59:28 Subject: RE: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, Thanks so much! I ordered the book and CD from Amazon.com. Can’t wait to delve in. The reader reviews were excellent. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:30 AM To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi, Helena, I'll attach a review of the book. See what you think. Its early days for me at the moment, you have to commit to doing the exercises at least twice a day, which is a fair old chunk of time, but I am doing it as an experiment - some of the stories in the book were very impressive and I just want to find out for myself. Initial findings are positive! At the very least it is an extremely effective relaxation technique with real science behind it. The book has a Cd with it - so you can read it and do the exercises and then like me if you decide to go further you can do the whole set of exercises. I'd like to point out that I am doing this alongside ACT - so sorry to folks if I am going off topic a bit - sometimes it just can't be helped! Be interested to know what you think. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 23:16:39 Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Simone, how is the “Open Focus†work progressing for you? I’m glad you mentioned it again, because I forgot to look it up after your last post.. Do you still have the link available? Thanks! Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:36 PM To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I agree. Nipping out for a quick brain scan is not an option for most uf us! Hee hee. I kind of came to the same conclusion as you - an interesting book but as you say, controversial. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 19:06:17 Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, For what it’s worth, that book by Dr. Amen is considered quite controversial by the medical establishment—not that that makes it bad (and some might think it’s a plus!). I read it shortly after it was published in the late 90’s (I think). I found the book fascinating but not very useful for me; getting brain scans done for diagnostic purposes is not really accessible to me or the general population, nor covered by insurance, and to extrapolate his research results to the larger population is not warranted, IMO. Still, with these caveats, I liked the book and am glad I read it. I hope you don’t mind my sharing my thoughts here … it is not meant as criticism nor to discourage anyone from reading the book. Dr. Amen may be regarded as revolutionary in the future, or just another misled researcher! I also intend to read Stroke of Insight. I saw her on TV and was quite impressed with her story. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:17 PM To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Bill, I haven't read 'Stroke of insight', but I am reading 'Change your Brain, Change your Life', by Amen. I too, like you are interested in 'whats under the hood', and this subject has interested me for sometime. Change Your Brain is all about how certain disorders ie, depression/anxiety etc are caused by certain parts of the brain not functioning properly - this is evidenced by 'spect' images or brain scans. In the books it shows some interesting images of peoples brains with different disorders and highlights the part that is not working right. He advocates drug treatment alongside other stuff to look after your brain - meditation/relaxati on, drinking water/positive attitude and loads of other things. It got me thinking - oh well, may as well just pop a pill and make it all better - but then, with a little effort I believe it is possible to change the structure of the brain through meditation. I know that the Dalai Lama has done much research into this and there are some interesting books on the subject. Because I am interested in brain science I am working with Open Focus which you may have heard me talk about in another post - that too, is geared towards changing the brain in subtle ways, through brain waves and wide/relaxed focus - its very interesting. A lot of people have benefited from it so I am giving it a go, alongside ACT.. Sometimes just a nano-second before I have a panic I almost feel my brain 'fire off' - I am sure there is sometimes to all this! Its good to swap book ideas. Thanks for posting. I'll read Stroke of insight. Simone From: BILL CAMERON <wcameromsn (DOT) com> To: ACT_for_the_ Public <act_for_the_ public@yahoogrou ps.com> Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 13:47:17 Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety I'm reading " My Stroke of Insight " by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to " rewire " her brain to bypass some " files " she decided were " not helpful. " The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT.. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know " what's under the hood " or " what's behind the curtain. " This book is providing that. Bill To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com From: hpapythotmail (DOT) com Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000 Subject: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am " hard-wired " to be anxious). I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! 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Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I've just ordered it too - it looks very interesting!Kate Hi Helena, I'd be interested to see how you get on. We could backchannel about this if you like. Simone To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009 19:59:28Subject: RE: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, Thanks so much! I ordered the book and CD from Amazon.com. Can’t wait to delve in. The reader reviews were excellent. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:30 AMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi, Helena, I'll attach a review of the book. See what you think. Its early days for me at the moment, you have to commit to doing the exercises at least twice a day, which is a fair old chunk of time, but I am doing it as an experiment - some of the stories in the book were very impressive and I just want to find out for myself. Initial findings are positive! At the very least it is an extremely effective relaxation technique with real science behind it. The book has a Cd with it - so you can read it and do the exercises and then like me if you decide to go further you can do the whole set of exercises. I'd like to point out that I am doing this alongside ACT - so sorry to folks if I am going off topic a bit - sometimes it just can't be helped! Be interested to know what you think. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 23:16:39 Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Simone, how is the “Open Focus” work progressing for you? I’m glad you mentioned it again, because I forgot to look it up after your last post.. Do you still have the link available? Thanks! Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:36 PMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I agree. Nipping out for a quick brain scan is not an option for most uf us! Hee hee. I kind of came to the same conclusion as you - an interesting book but as you say, controversial. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 19:06:17Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, For what it’s worth, that book by Dr. Amen is considered quite controversial by the medical establishment—not that that makes it bad (and some might think it’s a plus!). I read it shortly after it was published in the late 90’s (I think). I found the book fascinating but not very useful for me; getting brain scans done for diagnostic purposes is not really accessible to me or the general population, nor covered by insurance, and to extrapolate his research results to the larger population is not warranted, IMO. Still, with these caveats, I liked the book and am glad I read it. I hope you don’t mind my sharing my thoughts here … it is not meant as criticism nor to discourage anyone from reading the book. Dr. Amen may be regarded as revolutionary in the future, or just another misled researcher! I also intend to read Stroke of Insight. I saw her on TV and was quite impressed with her story. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:17 PMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Bill, I haven't read 'Stroke of insight', but I am reading 'Change your Brain, Change your Life', by Amen. I too, like you are interested in 'whats under the hood', and this subject has interested me for sometime. Change Your Brain is all about how certain disorders ie, depression/anxiety etc are caused by certain parts of the brain not functioning properly - this is evidenced by 'spect' images or brain scans. In the books it shows some interesting images of peoples brains with different disorders and highlights the part that is not working right. He advocates drug treatment alongside other stuff to look after your brain - meditation/relaxati on, drinking water/positive attitude and loads of other things. It got me thinking - oh well, may as well just pop a pill and make it all better - but then, with a little effort I believe it is possible to change the structure of the brain through meditation. I know that the Dalai Lama has done much research into this and there are some interesting books on the subject. Because I am interested in brain science I am working with Open Focus which you may have heard me talk about in another post - that too, is geared towards changing the brain in subtle ways, through brain waves and wide/relaxed focus - its very interesting. A lot of people have benefited from it so I am giving it a go, alongside ACT.. Sometimes just a nano-second before I have a panic I almost feel my brain 'fire off' - I am sure there is sometimes to all this! Its good to swap book ideas. Thanks for posting. I'll read Stroke of insight. Simone From: BILL CAMERON <wcameromsn (DOT) com>To: ACT_for_the_ Public <act_for_the_ public@yahoogrou ps.com> Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 13:47:17Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety I'm reading " My Stroke of Insight " by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to " rewire " her brain to bypass some " files " she decided were " not helpful. " The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT.. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know " what's under the hood " or " what's behind the curtain. " This book is providing that. Bill To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comFrom: hpapythotmail (DOT) comDate: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000 Subject: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am " hard-wired " to be anxious). I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Very good book. cath 7250 wrote: I've just ordered it too - it looks very interesting! Kate On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 1:19 AM, Stolton <adrianandbooyahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Hi Helena, I'd be interested to see how you get on. We could backchannel about this if you like. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009 19:59:28 Subject: RE: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, Thanks so much! I ordered the book and CD from Amazon.com. Can’t wait to delve in. The reader reviews were excellent. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:30 AM To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi, Helena, I'll attach a review of the book. See what you think. Its early days for me at the moment, you have to commit to doing the exercises at least twice a day, which is a fair old chunk of time, but I am doing it as an experiment - some of the stories in the book were very impressive and I just want to find out for myself. Initial findings are positive! At the very least it is an extremely effective relaxation technique with real science behind it. The book has a Cd with it - so you can read it and do the exercises and then like me if you decide to go further you can do the whole set of exercises. I'd like to point out that I am doing this alongside ACT - so sorry to folks if I am going off topic a bit - sometimes it just can't be helped! Be interested to know what you think. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 23:16:39 Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Simone, how is the “Open Focus” work progressing for you? I’m glad you mentioned it again, because I forgot to look it up after your last post.. Do you still have the link available? Thanks! Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:36 PM To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I agree. Nipping out for a quick brain scan is not an option for most uf us! Hee hee. I kind of came to the same conclusion as you - an interesting book but as you say, controversial. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 19:06:17 Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, For what it’s worth, that book by Dr. Amen is considered quite controversial by the medical establishment—not that that makes it bad (and some might think it’s a plus!). I read it shortly after it was published in the late 90’s (I think). I found the book fascinating but not very useful for me; getting brain scans done for diagnostic purposes is not really accessible to me or the general population, nor covered by insurance, and to extrapolate his research results to the larger population is not warranted, IMO. Still, with these caveats, I liked the book and am glad I read it. I hope you don’t mind my sharing my thoughts here … it is not meant as criticism nor to discourage anyone from reading the book. Dr. Amen may be regarded as revolutionary in the future, or just another misled researcher! I also intend to read Stroke of Insight. I saw her on TV and was quite impressed with her story. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:17 PM To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Bill, I haven't read 'Stroke of insight', but I am reading 'Change your Brain, Change your Life', by Amen. I too, like you are interested in 'whats under the hood', and this subject has interested me for sometime. Change Your Brain is all about how certain disorders ie, depression/anxiety etc are caused by certain parts of the brain not functioning properly - this is evidenced by 'spect' images or brain scans. In the books it shows some interesting images of peoples brains with different disorders and highlights the part that is not working right. He advocates drug treatment alongside other stuff to look after your brain - meditation/relaxati on, drinking water/positive attitude and loads of other things. It got me thinking - oh well, may as well just pop a pill and make it all better - but then, with a little effort I believe it is possible to change the structure of the brain through meditation. I know that the Dalai Lama has done much research into this and there are some interesting books on the subject. Because I am interested in brain science I am working with Open Focus which you may have heard me talk about in another post - that too, is geared towards changing the brain in subtle ways, through brain waves and wide/relaxed focus - its very interesting. A lot of people have benefited from it so I am giving it a go, alongside ACT.. Sometimes just a nano-second before I have a panic I almost feel my brain 'fire off' - I am sure there is sometimes to all this! Its good to swap book ideas. Thanks for posting. I'll read Stroke of insight. Simone From: BILL CAMERON <wcameromsn (DOT) com> To: ACT_for_the_ Public <act_for_the_ public@yahoogrou ps.com> Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 13:47:17 Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety I'm reading "My Stroke of Insight" by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to "rewire" her brain to bypass some "files" she decided were "not helpful." The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT.. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know "what's under the hood" or "what's behind the curtain." This book is providing that. Bill To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com From: hpapythotmail (DOT) com Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000 Subject: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am "hard-wired" to be anxious). I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! 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Guest guest Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Helena, If you go to this link you will find a podcast by Les Fehmi about open focus - thought you and others may be intersted. http://www.theatreofthemind.com/podcasts.asp Simone To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Thursday, 1 October, 2009 16:31:58Subject: RE: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Yes, I would love to! I may not have the book for about ten days, since I took free shipping, which is slower.. I’ll email you privately when I am able to get started with the exchange of thoughts…looking forward to it! Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:19 AMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I'd be interested to see how you get on. We could backchannel about this if you like. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009 19:59:28Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, Thanks so much! I ordered the book and CD from Amazon.com. Can’t wait to delve in. The reader reviews were excellent. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:30 AMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi, Helena, I'll attach a review of the book. See what you think. Its early days for me at the moment, you have to commit to doing the exercises at least twice a day, which is a fair old chunk of time, but I am doing it as an experiment - some of the stories in the book were very impressive and I just want to find out for myself. Initial findings are positive! At the very least it is an extremely effective relaxation technique with real science behind it. The book has a Cd with it - so you can read it and do the exercises and then like me if you decide to go further you can do the whole set of exercises. I'd like to point out that I am doing this alongside ACT - so sorry to folks if I am going off topic a bit - sometimes it just can't be helped! Be interested to know what you think. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 23:16:39Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Simone, how is the “Open Focus†work progressing for you? I’m glad you mentioned it again, because I forgot to look it up after your last post.. Do you still have the link available? Thanks! Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:36 PMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I agree. Nipping out for a quick brain scan is not an option for most uf us! Hee hee. I kind of came to the same conclusion as you - an interesting book but as you say, controversial. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 19:06:17Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, For what it’s worth, that book by Dr. Amen is considered quite controversial by the medical establishment—not that that makes it bad (and some might think it’s a plus!). I read it shortly after it was published in the late 90’s (I think). I found the book fascinating but not very useful for me; getting brain scans done for diagnostic purposes is not really accessible to me or the general population, nor covered by insurance, and to extrapolate his research results to the larger population is not warranted, IMO. Still, with these caveats, I liked the book and am glad I read it. I hope you don’t mind my sharing my thoughts here … it is not meant as criticism nor to discourage anyone from reading the book. Dr. Amen may be regarded as revolutionary in the future, or just another misled researcher! I also intend to read Stroke of Insight. I saw her on TV and was quite impressed with her story. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:17 PMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Bill, I haven't read 'Stroke of insight', but I am reading 'Change your Brain, Change your Life', by Amen. I too, like you are interested in 'whats under the hood', and this subject has interested me for sometime. Change Your Brain is all about how certain disorders ie, depression/anxiety etc are caused by certain parts of the brain not functioning properly - this is evidenced by 'spect' images or brain scans. In the books it shows some interesting images of peoples brains with different disorders and highlights the part that is not working right. He advocates drug treatment alongside other stuff to look after your brain - meditation/relaxati on, drinking water/positive attitude and loads of other things. It got me thinking - oh well, may as well just pop a pill and make it all better - but then, with a little effort I believe it is possible to change the structure of the brain through meditation. I know that the Dalai Lama has done much research into this and there are some interesting books on the subject. Because I am interested in brain science I am working with Open Focus which you may have heard me talk about in another post - that too, is geared towards changing the brain in subtle ways, through brain waves and wide/relaxed focus - its very interesting. A lot of people have benefited from it so I am giving it a go, alongside ACT.. Sometimes just a nano-second before I have a panic I almost feel my brain 'fire off' - I am sure there is sometimes to all this! Its good to swap book ideas. Thanks for posting. I'll read Stroke of insight. Simone From: BILL CAMERON <wcameromsn (DOT) com>To: ACT_for_the_ Public <act_for_the_ public@yahoogrou ps.com>Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 13:47:17Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety I'm reading "My Stroke of Insight" by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to "rewire" her brain to bypass some "files" she decided were "not helpful." The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT.. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know "what's under the hood" or "what's behind the curtain." This book is providing that. Bill To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comFrom: hpapythotmail (DOT) comDate: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000Subject: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am "hard-wired" to be anxious).I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Hi Simone, I finally had a chance to listen to this podcast all the way through. I can’t wait to get the book and CD. The ongoing course is way too expensive for me, so I hope I “get it†the jist of it with just the book and introductory CD. He said something that struck me in the podcast: “Some people have depression as a way of avoiding anxiety.† That one comment was so revealing to me. I may be reluctant to give up my depression because I fear more what might replace it. I was quite anxious as a child …. Nail-biting, sleep-walking, bed-wetting, hair-stroking, repetitive movements, etc. As I got older, I just withdrew, and I could just practice avoidance. Looking forward to learning more about Open Focus. Helena From: ACT_for_the_Public [mailto:ACT_for_the_Public ] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 12:32 PM To: ACT_for_the_Public Subject: Re: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Helena, If you go to this link you will find a podcast by Les Fehmi about open focus - thought you and others may be intersted. http://www.theatreofthemind.com/podcasts.asp Simone To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Thursday, 1 October, 2009 16:31:58 Subject: RE: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Yes, I would love to! I may not have the book for about ten days, since I took free shipping, which is slower.. I’ll email you privately when I am able to get started with the exchange of thoughts…looking forward to it! Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:19 AM To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I'd be interested to see how you get on. We could backchannel about this if you like. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009 19:59:28 Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, Thanks so much! I ordered the book and CD from Amazon.com. Can’t wait to delve in. The reader reviews were excellent. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:30 AM To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi, Helena, I'll attach a review of the book. See what you think. Its early days for me at the moment, you have to commit to doing the exercises at least twice a day, which is a fair old chunk of time, but I am doing it as an experiment - some of the stories in the book were very impressive and I just want to find out for myself. Initial findings are positive! At the very least it is an extremely effective relaxation technique with real science behind it. The book has a Cd with it - so you can read it and do the exercises and then like me if you decide to go further you can do the whole set of exercises. I'd like to point out that I am doing this alongside ACT - so sorry to folks if I am going off topic a bit - sometimes it just can't be helped! Be interested to know what you think. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 23:16:39 Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Simone, how is the “Open Focus†work progressing for you? I’m glad you mentioned it again, because I forgot to look it up after your last post.. Do you still have the link available? Thanks! Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:36 PM To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I agree. Nipping out for a quick brain scan is not an option for most uf us! Hee hee. I kind of came to the same conclusion as you - an interesting book but as you say, controversial. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 19:06:17 Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, For what it’s worth, that book by Dr. Amen is considered quite controversial by the medical establishment—not that that makes it bad (and some might think it’s a plus!). I read it shortly after it was published in the late 90’s (I think). I found the book fascinating but not very useful for me; getting brain scans done for diagnostic purposes is not really accessible to me or the general population, nor covered by insurance, and to extrapolate his research results to the larger population is not warranted, IMO. Still, with these caveats, I liked the book and am glad I read it. I hope you don’t mind my sharing my thoughts here … it is not meant as criticism nor to discourage anyone from reading the book. Dr. Amen may be regarded as revolutionary in the future, or just another misled researcher! I also intend to read Stroke of Insight. I saw her on TV and was quite impressed with her story. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:17 PM To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Bill, I haven't read 'Stroke of insight', but I am reading 'Change your Brain, Change your Life', by Amen. I too, like you are interested in 'whats under the hood', and this subject has interested me for sometime. Change Your Brain is all about how certain disorders ie, depression/anxiety etc are caused by certain parts of the brain not functioning properly - this is evidenced by 'spect' images or brain scans. In the books it shows some interesting images of peoples brains with different disorders and highlights the part that is not working right. He advocates drug treatment alongside other stuff to look after your brain - meditation/relaxati on, drinking water/positive attitude and loads of other things. It got me thinking - oh well, may as well just pop a pill and make it all better - but then, with a little effort I believe it is possible to change the structure of the brain through meditation. I know that the Dalai Lama has done much research into this and there are some interesting books on the subject. Because I am interested in brain science I am working with Open Focus which you may have heard me talk about in another post - that too, is geared towards changing the brain in subtle ways, through brain waves and wide/relaxed focus - its very interesting. A lot of people have benefited from it so I am giving it a go, alongside ACT.. Sometimes just a nano-second before I have a panic I almost feel my brain 'fire off' - I am sure there is sometimes to all this! Its good to swap book ideas. Thanks for posting. I'll read Stroke of insight. Simone From: BILL CAMERON <wcameromsn (DOT) com> To: ACT_for_the_ Public <act_for_the_ public@yahoogrou ps.com> Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 13:47:17 Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety I'm reading " My Stroke of Insight " by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to " rewire " her brain to bypass some " files " she decided were " not helpful. " The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT.. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know " what's under the hood " or " what's behind the curtain. " This book is providing that. Bill To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com From: hpapythotmail (DOT) com Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000 Subject: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am " hard-wired " to be anxious). I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! 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Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Hi Helena, I am getting on well with open focus and have noticed a definite improvement in mood - not sure if it's the placebo effect but who cares! I couldn't afford the whole course in one go either and anyhow I think that might be a bit overwhelming - what I have done after listening to the CD with book for a few weeks in buy the mp3 downloads - you can buy one at a time, they are about £5 each, dollars? think thats about the same $5 - that way its not such a big investment and you can see how you get along a bit at a time. I think the biggest obstacle ( much like meditation) is the commitment to practise - but I make sure that I do it at the very least once a day. Looking forward to seeing what you make of it. Interesting stuff. You might have apoint about your depression - when I do get depressed it is always secondary to my anxiety - but I too bed wet as a child and still bite my nails! I had an imaginary friend as well!! I there is something in the argument of being 'hardwired' in the brain to be anxious or depressed. Thats why I am interested in the neuroplasticity of the brain - the fact that practices like ACT, meditation and open focus, can, over time change the structure of the brain. Simone To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Wednesday, 7 October, 2009 21:15:30Subject: RE: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, I finally had a chance to listen to this podcast all the way through. I can’t wait to get the book and CD. The ongoing course is way too expensive for me, so I hope I “get it†the jist of it with just the book and introductory CD. He said something that struck me in the podcast: “Some people have depression as a way of avoiding anxiety.†That one comment was so revealing to me. I may be reluctant to give up my depression because I fear more what might replace it. I was quite anxious as a child …. Nail-biting, sleep-walking, bed-wetting, hair-stroking, repetitive movements, etc. As I got older, I just withdrew, and I could just practice avoidance. Looking forward to learning more about Open Focus. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 12:32 PMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Helena, If you go to this link you will find a podcast by Les Fehmi about open focus - thought you and others may be intersted. http://www.theatreo fthemind. com/podcasts. asp Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Thursday, 1 October, 2009 16:31:58Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Yes, I would love to! I may not have the book for about ten days, since I took free shipping, which is slower.. I’ll email you privately when I am able to get started with the exchange of thoughts…looking forward to it! Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:19 AMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I'd be interested to see how you get on. We could backchannel about this if you like. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009 19:59:28Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, Thanks so much! I ordered the book and CD from Amazon.com. Can’t wait to delve in. The reader reviews were excellent. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:30 AMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi, Helena, I'll attach a review of the book. See what you think. Its early days for me at the moment, you have to commit to doing the exercises at least twice a day, which is a fair old chunk of time, but I am doing it as an experiment - some of the stories in the book were very impressive and I just want to find out for myself. Initial findings are positive! At the very least it is an extremely effective relaxation technique with real science behind it. The book has a Cd with it - so you can read it and do the exercises and then like me if you decide to go further you can do the whole set of exercises. I'd like to point out that I am doing this alongside ACT - so sorry to folks if I am going off topic a bit - sometimes it just can't be helped! Be interested to know what you think. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 23:16:39Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Simone, how is the “Open Focus†work progressing for you? I’m glad you mentioned it again, because I forgot to look it up after your last post.. Do you still have the link available? Thanks! Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:36 PMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I agree. Nipping out for a quick brain scan is not an option for most uf us! Hee hee. I kind of came to the same conclusion as you - an interesting book but as you say, controversial. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 19:06:17Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, For what it’s worth, that book by Dr. Amen is considered quite controversial by the medical establishment—not that that makes it bad (and some might think it’s a plus!). I read it shortly after it was published in the late 90’s (I think). I found the book fascinating but not very useful for me; getting brain scans done for diagnostic purposes is not really accessible to me or the general population, nor covered by insurance, and to extrapolate his research results to the larger population is not warranted, IMO. Still, with these caveats, I liked the book and am glad I read it. I hope you don’t mind my sharing my thoughts here … it is not meant as criticism nor to discourage anyone from reading the book. Dr. Amen may be regarded as revolutionary in the future, or just another misled researcher! I also intend to read Stroke of Insight. I saw her on TV and was quite impressed with her story. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:17 PMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Bill, I haven't read 'Stroke of insight', but I am reading 'Change your Brain, Change your Life', by Amen. I too, like you are interested in 'whats under the hood', and this subject has interested me for sometime. Change Your Brain is all about how certain disorders ie, depression/anxiety etc are caused by certain parts of the brain not functioning properly - this is evidenced by 'spect' images or brain scans. In the books it shows some interesting images of peoples brains with different disorders and highlights the part that is not working right. He advocates drug treatment alongside other stuff to look after your brain - meditation/relaxati on, drinking water/positive attitude and loads of other things. It got me thinking - oh well, may as well just pop a pill and make it all better - but then, with a little effort I believe it is possible to change the structure of the brain through meditation. I know that the Dalai Lama has done much research into this and there are some interesting books on the subject. Because I am interested in brain science I am working with Open Focus which you may have heard me talk about in another post - that too, is geared towards changing the brain in subtle ways, through brain waves and wide/relaxed focus - its very interesting. A lot of people have benefited from it so I am giving it a go, alongside ACT.. Sometimes just a nano-second before I have a panic I almost feel my brain 'fire off' - I am sure there is sometimes to all this! Its good to swap book ideas. Thanks for posting. I'll read Stroke of insight. Simone From: BILL CAMERON <wcameromsn (DOT) com>To: ACT_for_the_ Public <act_for_the_ public@yahoogrou ps.com>Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 13:47:17Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety I'm reading "My Stroke of Insight" by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to "rewire" her brain to bypass some "files" she decided were "not helpful." The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT.. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know "what's under the hood" or "what's behind the curtain." This book is providing that. Bill To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comFrom: hpapythotmail (DOT) comDate: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000Subject: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am "hard-wired" to be anxious).I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! 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Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Hi Simone, It is a new concept to me that my depression may be covering up deep anxiety. It’s covering up a lot, I think – anxiety, dread, fear of feeling, etc. I feel a resistance to giving up my depression because I think, without it, I would feel quite vulnerable. It has become a comfortable, protective blanket. As an adjunct to ACT, the open focus approach could be a tool that will help cut a hole in that blanket. Thanks for the tip about downloading the exercises to MP3; I got one for Christmas and haven’t even used it yet! Five pounds is around $8--quite affordable, a bit at a time. It’s so nice to have an “Open Focus†buddy here!  I am not expecting a miracle; just open to whatever may (or may not) occur with this intriguing tool. I’m not one to jump on numerous bandwagons, preferring to stay focused one ‘therapy’ at a time; otherwise, it seems an avoidance tactic. But this one is worth trying, I think. Helena From: ACT_for_the_Public [mailto:ACT_for_the_Public ] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:21 AM To: ACT_for_the_Public Subject: Re: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I am getting on well with open focus and have noticed a definite improvement in mood - not sure if it's the placebo effect but who cares! I couldn't afford the whole course in one go either and anyhow I think that might be a bit overwhelming - what I have done after listening to the CD with book for a few weeks in buy the mp3 downloads - you can buy one at a time, they are about £5 each, dollars? think thats about the same $5 - that way its not such a big investment and you can see how you get along a bit at a time. I think the biggest obstacle ( much like meditation) is the commitment to practise - but I make sure that I do it at the very least once a day. Looking forward to seeing what you make of it. Interesting stuff. You might have apoint about your depression - when I do get depressed it is always secondary to my anxiety - but I too bed wet as a child and still bite my nails! I had an imaginary friend as well!! I there is something in the argument of being 'hardwired' in the brain to be anxious or depressed. Thats why I am interested in the neuroplasticity of the brain - the fact that practices like ACT, meditation and open focus, can, over time change the structure of the brain. Simone To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Wednesday, 7 October, 2009 21:15:30 Subject: RE: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, I finally had a chance to listen to this podcast all the way through. I can’t wait to get the book and CD. The ongoing course is way too expensive for me, so I hope I “get it†the jist of it with just the book and introductory CD. He said something that struck me in the podcast: “Some people have depression as a way of avoiding anxiety.†That one comment was so revealing to me. I may be reluctant to give up my depression because I fear more what might replace it. I was quite anxious as a child …. Nail-biting, sleep-walking, bed-wetting, hair-stroking, repetitive movements, etc. As I got older, I just withdrew, and I could just practice avoidance. Looking forward to learning more about Open Focus. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 12:32 PM To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Helena, If you go to this link you will find a podcast by Les Fehmi about open focus - thought you and others may be intersted. http://www.theatreo fthemind. com/podcasts. asp Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Thursday, 1 October, 2009 16:31:58 Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Yes, I would love to! I may not have the book for about ten days, since I took free shipping, which is slower.. I’ll email you privately when I am able to get started with the exchange of thoughts…looking forward to it! Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:19 AM To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I'd be interested to see how you get on. We could backchannel about this if you like. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009 19:59:28 Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, Thanks so much! I ordered the book and CD from Amazon.com. Can’t wait to delve in. The reader reviews were excellent. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:30 AM To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi, Helena, I'll attach a review of the book. See what you think. Its early days for me at the moment, you have to commit to doing the exercises at least twice a day, which is a fair old chunk of time, but I am doing it as an experiment - some of the stories in the book were very impressive and I just want to find out for myself. Initial findings are positive! At the very least it is an extremely effective relaxation technique with real science behind it. The book has a Cd with it - so you can read it and do the exercises and then like me if you decide to go further you can do the whole set of exercises. I'd like to point out that I am doing this alongside ACT - so sorry to folks if I am going off topic a bit - sometimes it just can't be helped! Be interested to know what you think. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 23:16:39 Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Simone, how is the “Open Focus†work progressing for you? I’m glad you mentioned it again, because I forgot to look it up after your last post.. Do you still have the link available? Thanks! Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:36 PM To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I agree. Nipping out for a quick brain scan is not an option for most uf us! Hee hee. I kind of came to the same conclusion as you - an interesting book but as you say, controversial. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 19:06:17 Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, For what it’s worth, that book by Dr. Amen is considered quite controversial by the medical establishment—not that that makes it bad (and some might think it’s a plus!). I read it shortly after it was published in the late 90’s (I think). I found the book fascinating but not very useful for me; getting brain scans done for diagnostic purposes is not really accessible to me or the general population, nor covered by insurance, and to extrapolate his research results to the larger population is not warranted, IMO. Still, with these caveats, I liked the book and am glad I read it. I hope you don’t mind my sharing my thoughts here … it is not meant as criticism nor to discourage anyone from reading the book. Dr. Amen may be regarded as revolutionary in the future, or just another misled researcher! I also intend to read Stroke of Insight. I saw her on TV and was quite impressed with her story. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:17 PM To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Bill, I haven't read 'Stroke of insight', but I am reading 'Change your Brain, Change your Life', by Amen. I too, like you are interested in 'whats under the hood', and this subject has interested me for sometime. Change Your Brain is all about how certain disorders ie, depression/anxiety etc are caused by certain parts of the brain not functioning properly - this is evidenced by 'spect' images or brain scans. In the books it shows some interesting images of peoples brains with different disorders and highlights the part that is not working right. He advocates drug treatment alongside other stuff to look after your brain - meditation/relaxati on, drinking water/positive attitude and loads of other things. It got me thinking - oh well, may as well just pop a pill and make it all better - but then, with a little effort I believe it is possible to change the structure of the brain through meditation. I know that the Dalai Lama has done much research into this and there are some interesting books on the subject. Because I am interested in brain science I am working with Open Focus which you may have heard me talk about in another post - that too, is geared towards changing the brain in subtle ways, through brain waves and wide/relaxed focus - its very interesting. A lot of people have benefited from it so I am giving it a go, alongside ACT.. Sometimes just a nano-second before I have a panic I almost feel my brain 'fire off' - I am sure there is sometimes to all this! Its good to swap book ideas. Thanks for posting. I'll read Stroke of insight. Simone From: BILL CAMERON <wcameromsn (DOT) com> To: ACT_for_the_ Public <act_for_the_ public@yahoogrou ps.com> Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 13:47:17 Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety I'm reading " My Stroke of Insight " by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to " rewire " her brain to bypass some " files " she decided were " not helpful. " The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT.. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know " what's under the hood " or " what's behind the curtain. " This book is providing that. Bill To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com From: hpapythotmail (DOT) com Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000 Subject: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am " hard-wired " to be anxious). I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! 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Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Hi Helena and Simone I downloaded some of the exercises from the website but they downloaded as unreadable text files rather than mp3s. Did either of you have any problems like this? Cheers Kate > > Hi Simone, > > It is a new concept to me that my depression may be covering up deep anxiety. It’s covering up a lot, I think †" anxiety, dread, fear of feeling, etc. I feel a resistance to giving up my depression because I think, without it, I would feel quite vulnerable. It has become a comfortable, protective blanket. As an adjunct to ACT, the open focus approach could be a tool that will help cut a hole in that blanket. > > Thanks for the tip about downloading the exercises to MP3; I got one for Christmas and haven’t even used it yet! Five pounds is around $8--quite affordable, a bit at a time. > > It’s so nice to have an “Open Focus†buddy here! I am not expecting a miracle; just open to whatever may (or may not) occur with this intriguing tool. I’m not one to jump on numerous bandwagons, preferring to stay focused one ‘therapy’ at a time; otherwise, it seems an avoidance tactic. But this one is worth trying, I think. > > > Helena > > > From: ACT_for_the_Public [mailto:ACT_for_the_Public ] On Behalf Of Stolton > Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:21 AM > To: ACT_for_the_Public > Subject: Re: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Hi Helena, > > I am getting on well with open focus and have noticed a definite improvement in mood - not sure if it's the placebo effect but who cares! > I couldn't afford the whole course in one go either and anyhow I think that might be a bit overwhelming - what I have done after listening to the CD with book for a few weeks in buy the mp3 downloads - you can buy one at a time, they are about £5 each, dollars? think thats about the same $5 - that way its not such a big investment and you can see how you get along a bit at a time. I think the biggest obstacle ( much like meditation) is the commitment to practise - but I make sure that I do it at the very least once a day. > Looking forward to seeing what you make of it. Interesting stuff. You might have apoint about your depression - when I do get depressed it is always secondary to my anxiety - but I too bed wet as a child and still bite my nails! I had an imaginary friend as well!! I there is something in the argument of being 'hardwired' in the brain to be anxious or depressed. Thats why I am interested in the neuroplasticity of the brain - the fact that practices like ACT, meditation and open focus, can, over time change the structure of the brain. > > Simone > > _____ > > > To: ACT_for_the_Public > Sent: Wednesday, 7 October, 2009 21:15:30 > Subject: RE: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Hi Simone, > > I finally had a chance to listen to this podcast all the way through. I can’t wait to get the book and CD. The ongoing course is way too expensive for me, so I hope I “get it†the jist of it with just the book and introductory CD. > > He said something that struck me in the podcast: “Some people have depression as a way of avoiding anxiety.†That one comment was so revealing to me. I may be reluctant to give up my depression because I fear more what might replace it. > > I was quite anxious as a child …. Nail-biting, sleep-walking, bed-wetting, hair-stroking, repetitive movements, etc. As I got older, I just withdrew, and I could just practice avoidance. > > Looking forward to learning more about Open Focus. > > Helena > > > From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 12:32 PM > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Helena, > > If you go to this link you will find a podcast by Les Fehmi about open focus - thought you and others may be intersted. > > http://www.theatreo <http://www.theatreofthemind.com/podcasts.asp> fthemind. com/podcasts. asp > > > Simone > > _____ > > From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Thursday, 1 October, 2009 16:31:58 > Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Yes, I would love to! I may not have the book for about ten days, since I took free shipping, which is slower.. I’ll email you privately when I am able to get started with the exchange of thoughts…looking forward to it! > > Helena > > > From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:19 AM > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Hi Helena, > > I'd be interested to see how you get on. We could backchannel about this if you like. > > Simone > > _____ > > From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009 19:59:28 > Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Hi Simone, > > Thanks so much! I ordered the book and CD from Amazon.com. Can’t wait to delve in. The reader reviews were excellent. > > Helena > > > From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:30 AM > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Hi, Helena, > > I'll attach a review of the book. See what you think. Its early days for me at the moment, you have to commit to doing the exercises at least twice a day, which is a fair old chunk of time, but I am doing it as an experiment - some of the stories in the book were very impressive and I just want to find out for myself. Initial findings are positive! At the very least it is an extremely effective relaxation technique with real science behind it. The book has a Cd with it - so you can read it and do the exercises and then like me if you decide to go further you can do the whole set of exercises. > I'd like to point out that I am doing this alongside ACT - so sorry to folks if I am going off topic a bit - sometimes it just can't be helped! > Be interested to know what you think. > > Simone > > _____ > > From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 23:16:39 > Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Simone, how is the “Open Focus†work progressing for you? I’m glad you mentioned it again, because I forgot to look it up after your last post.. Do you still have the link available? > > Thanks! > > Helena > > > > > From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:36 PM > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Hi Helena, > > I agree. Nipping out for a quick brain scan is not an option for most uf us! Hee hee. I kind of came to the same conclusion as you - an interesting book but as you say, controversial. > > Simone > > _____ > > From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 19:06:17 > Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Hi Simone, > > For what it’s worth, that book by Dr. Amen is considered quite controversial by the medical establishment†" not that that makes it bad (and some might think it’s a plus!). I read it shortly after it was published in the late 90’s (I think). > > I found the book fascinating but not very useful for me; getting brain scans done for diagnostic purposes is not really accessible to me or the general population, nor covered by insurance, and to extrapolate his research results to the larger population is not warranted, IMO. Still, with these caveats, I liked the book and am glad I read it. > > I hope you don’t mind my sharing my thoughts here … it is not meant as criticism nor to discourage anyone from reading the book. Dr. Amen may be regarded as revolutionary in the future, or just another misled researcher! > > I also intend to read Stroke of Insight. I saw her on TV and was quite impressed with her story. > > Helena > > > > From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:17 PM > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Hi Bill, > I haven't read 'Stroke of insight', but I am reading 'Change your Brain, Change your Life', by Amen. I too, like you are interested in 'whats under the hood', and this subject has interested me for sometime. Change Your Brain is all about how certain disorders ie, depression/anxiety etc are caused by certain parts of the brain not functioning properly - this is evidenced by 'spect' images or brain scans. In the books it shows some interesting images of peoples brains with different disorders and highlights the part that is not working right. He advocates drug treatment alongside other stuff to look after your brain - meditation/relaxati on, drinking water/positive attitude and loads of other things. > It got me thinking - oh well, may as well just pop a pill and make it all better - but then, with a little effort I believe it is possible to change the structure of the brain through meditation. I know that the Dalai Lama has done much research into this and there are some interesting books on the subject. Because I am interested in brain science I am working with Open Focus which you may have heard me talk about in another post - that too, is geared towards changing the brain in subtle ways, through brain waves and wide/relaxed focus - its very interesting. A lot of people have benefited from it so I am giving it a go, alongside ACT.. > Sometimes just a nano-second before I have a panic I almost feel my brain 'fire off' - I am sure there is sometimes to all this! > Its good to swap book ideas. Thanks for posting. I'll read Stroke of insight. > > Simone > > _____ > > From: BILL CAMERON <wcameromsn (DOT) com> > To: ACT_for_the_ Public <act_for_the_ public@yahoogrou ps.com> > Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 13:47:17 > Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > I'm reading " My Stroke of Insight " by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to " rewire " her brain to bypass some " files " she decided were " not helpful. " The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT.. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know " what's under the hood " or " what's behind the curtain. " This book is providing that. > > Bill > > _____ > > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > From: hpapythotmail (DOT) com > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000 > Subject: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am " hard-wired " to be anxious). > > I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Helena, I agree. I have to be wary of 'jumping on bandwagons' because in the past I would try almost everything except direct experience! I still have a tendency that way. Open focus though I feel is something different and does not stop me working with ACT, my body feels deeply relaxed after each session, and that can't be bad! Simone To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Thursday, 8 October, 2009 12:22:46Subject: RE: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, It is a new concept to me that my depression may be covering up deep anxiety. It’s covering up a lot, I think – anxiety, dread, fear of feeling, etc. I feel a resistance to giving up my depression because I think, without it, I would feel quite vulnerable. It has become a comfortable, protective blanket. As an adjunct to ACT, the open focus approach could be a tool that will help cut a hole in that blanket. Thanks for the tip about downloading the exercises to MP3; I got one for Christmas and haven’t even used it yet! Five pounds is around $8--quite affordable, a bit at a time. It’s so nice to have an “Open Focus†buddy here! I am not expecting a miracle; just open to whatever may (or may not) occur with this intriguing tool. I’m not one to jump on numerous bandwagons, preferring to stay focused one ‘therapy’ at a time; otherwise, it seems an avoidance tactic. But this one is worth trying, I think. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:21 AMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I am getting on well with open focus and have noticed a definite improvement in mood - not sure if it's the placebo effect but who cares! I couldn't afford the whole course in one go either and anyhow I think that might be a bit overwhelming - what I have done after listening to the CD with book for a few weeks in buy the mp3 downloads - you can buy one at a time, they are about £5 each, dollars? think thats about the same $5 - that way its not such a big investment and you can see how you get along a bit at a time. I think the biggest obstacle ( much like meditation) is the commitment to practise - but I make sure that I do it at the very least once a day. Looking forward to seeing what you make of it. Interesting stuff. You might have apoint about your depression - when I do get depressed it is always secondary to my anxiety - but I too bed wet as a child and still bite my nails! I had an imaginary friend as well!! I there is something in the argument of being 'hardwired' in the brain to be anxious or depressed. Thats why I am interested in the neuroplasticity of the brain - the fact that practices like ACT, meditation and open focus, can, over time change the structure of the brain. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Wednesday, 7 October, 2009 21:15:30Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, I finally had a chance to listen to this podcast all the way through. I can’t wait to get the book and CD. The ongoing course is way too expensive for me, so I hope I “get it†the jist of it with just the book and introductory CD. He said something that struck me in the podcast: “Some people have depression as a way of avoiding anxiety.†That one comment was so revealing to me. I may be reluctant to give up my depression because I fear more what might replace it. I was quite anxious as a child …. Nail-biting, sleep-walking, bed-wetting, hair-stroking, repetitive movements, etc. As I got older, I just withdrew, and I could just practice avoidance. Looking forward to learning more about Open Focus. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 12:32 PMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Helena, If you go to this link you will find a podcast by Les Fehmi about open focus - thought you and others may be intersted. http://www.theatreo fthemind. com/podcasts. asp Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Thursday, 1 October, 2009 16:31:58Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Yes, I would love to! I may not have the book for about ten days, since I took free shipping, which is slower.. I’ll email you privately when I am able to get started with the exchange of thoughts…looking forward to it! Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:19 AMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I'd be interested to see how you get on. We could backchannel about this if you like. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009 19:59:28Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, Thanks so much! I ordered the book and CD from Amazon.com. Can’t wait to delve in. The reader reviews were excellent. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:30 AMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi, Helena, I'll attach a review of the book. See what you think. Its early days for me at the moment, you have to commit to doing the exercises at least twice a day, which is a fair old chunk of time, but I am doing it as an experiment - some of the stories in the book were very impressive and I just want to find out for myself. Initial findings are positive! At the very least it is an extremely effective relaxation technique with real science behind it. The book has a Cd with it - so you can read it and do the exercises and then like me if you decide to go further you can do the whole set of exercises. I'd like to point out that I am doing this alongside ACT - so sorry to folks if I am going off topic a bit - sometimes it just can't be helped! Be interested to know what you think. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 23:16:39Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Simone, how is the “Open Focus†work progressing for you? I’m glad you mentioned it again, because I forgot to look it up after your last post.. Do you still have the link available? Thanks! Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:36 PMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena, I agree. Nipping out for a quick brain scan is not an option for most uf us! Hee hee. I kind of came to the same conclusion as you - an interesting book but as you say, controversial. Simone From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 19:06:17Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Simone, For what it’s worth, that book by Dr. Amen is considered quite controversial by the medical establishment—not that that makes it bad (and some might think it’s a plus!). I read it shortly after it was published in the late 90’s (I think). I found the book fascinating but not very useful for me; getting brain scans done for diagnostic purposes is not really accessible to me or the general population, nor covered by insurance, and to extrapolate his research results to the larger population is not warranted, IMO. Still, with these caveats, I liked the book and am glad I read it. I hope you don’t mind my sharing my thoughts here … it is not meant as criticism nor to discourage anyone from reading the book. Dr. Amen may be regarded as revolutionary in the future, or just another misled researcher! I also intend to read Stroke of Insight. I saw her on TV and was quite impressed with her story. Helena From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of StoltonSent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:17 PMTo: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comSubject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Bill, I haven't read 'Stroke of insight', but I am reading 'Change your Brain, Change your Life', by Amen. I too, like you are interested in 'whats under the hood', and this subject has interested me for sometime. Change Your Brain is all about how certain disorders ie, depression/anxiety etc are caused by certain parts of the brain not functioning properly - this is evidenced by 'spect' images or brain scans. In the books it shows some interesting images of peoples brains with different disorders and highlights the part that is not working right. He advocates drug treatment alongside other stuff to look after your brain - meditation/relaxati on, drinking water/positive attitude and loads of other things. It got me thinking - oh well, may as well just pop a pill and make it all better - but then, with a little effort I believe it is possible to change the structure of the brain through meditation. I know that the Dalai Lama has done much research into this and there are some interesting books on the subject. Because I am interested in brain science I am working with Open Focus which you may have heard me talk about in another post - that too, is geared towards changing the brain in subtle ways, through brain waves and wide/relaxed focus - its very interesting. A lot of people have benefited from it so I am giving it a go, alongside ACT.. Sometimes just a nano-second before I have a panic I almost feel my brain 'fire off' - I am sure there is sometimes to all this! Its good to swap book ideas. Thanks for posting. I'll read Stroke of insight. Simone From: BILL CAMERON <wcameromsn (DOT) com>To: ACT_for_the_ Public <act_for_the_ public@yahoogrou ps.com>Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 13:47:17Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety I'm reading "My Stroke of Insight" by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to "rewire" her brain to bypass some "files" she decided were "not helpful." The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT.. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know "what's under the hood" or "what's behind the curtain." This book is providing that. Bill To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.comFrom: hpapythotmail (DOT) comDate: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000Subject: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am "hard-wired" to be anxious).I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! 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Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 No, it seemed to work ok with me. I opened it in windows media player. Maybe you just have to look at your system and what works with your computer. Sorry I'm not very computer savvy -I had to get my husband to help me! Hope you sort it out. Simone To: ACT_for_the_Public Sent: Thursday, 8 October, 2009 12:41:03Subject: Re: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety Hi Helena and SimoneI downloaded some of the exercises from the website but they downloaded as unreadable text files rather than mp3s. Did either of you have any problems like this?CheersKate>> Hi Simone,> > It is a new concept to me that my depression may be covering up deep anxiety. It’s covering up a lot, I think â€" anxiety, dread, fear of feeling, etc. I feel a resistance to giving up my depression because I think, without it, I would feel quite vulnerable. It has become a comfortable, protective blanket. As an adjunct to ACT, the open focus approach could be a tool that will help cut a hole in that blanket.> > Thanks for the tip about downloading the exercises to MP3; I got one for Christmas and haven’t even used it yet! Five pounds is around $8--quite affordable, a bit at a time.> > It’s so nice to have an “Open Focusâ€� buddy here! I am not expecting a miracle; just open to whatever may (or may not) occur with this intriguing tool. I’m not one to jump on numerous bandwagons, preferring to stay focused one ‘therapy’ at a time; otherwise, it seems an avoidance tactic. But this one is worth trying, I think.> > > Helena> > > From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Stolton> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:21 AM> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com> Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety> > > Hi Helena,> > I am getting on well with open focus and have noticed a definite improvement in mood - not sure if it's the placebo effect but who cares!> I couldn't afford the whole course in one go either and anyhow I think that might be a bit overwhelming - what I have done after listening to the CD with book for a few weeks in buy the mp3 downloads - you can buy one at a time, they are about £5 each, dollars? think thats about the same $5 - that way its not such a big investment and you can see how you get along a bit at a time. I think the biggest obstacle ( much like meditation) is the commitment to practise - but I make sure that I do it at the very least once a day.> Looking forward to seeing what you make of it. Interesting stuff. You might have apoint about your depression - when I do get depressed it is always secondary to my anxiety - but I too bed wet as a child and still bite my nails! I had an imaginary friend as well!! I there is something in the argument of being 'hardwired' in the brain to be anxious or depressed. Thats why I am interested in the neuroplasticity of the brain - the fact that practices like ACT, meditation and open focus, can, over time change the structure of the brain.> > Simone> > _____ > > > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com> Sent: Wednesday, 7 October, 2009 21:15:30> Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety> > > Hi Simone,> > I finally had a chance to listen to this podcast all the way through. I can’t wait to get the book and CD. The ongoing course is way too expensive for me, so I hope I “get itâ€� the jist of it with just the book and introductory CD.> > He said something that struck me in the podcast: “Some people have depression as a way of avoiding anxiety.â€� That one comment was so revealing to me. I may be reluctant to give up my depression because I fear more what might replace it. > > I was quite anxious as a child …. Nail-biting, sleep-walking, bed-wetting, hair-stroking, repetitive movements, etc. As I got older, I just withdrew, and I could just practice avoidance.> > Looking forward to learning more about Open Focus.> > Helena> > > From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 12:32 PM> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com> Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety> > > Helena,> > If you go to this link you will find a podcast by Les Fehmi about open focus - thought you and others may be intersted.> > http://www.theatreo <http://www.theatreo fthemind. com/podcasts. asp> fthemind. com/podcasts. asp> > > Simone> > _____ > > From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com> Sent: Thursday, 1 October, 2009 16:31:58> Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety> > > Yes, I would love to! I may not have the book for about ten days, since I took free shipping, which is slower.. I’ll email you privately when I am able to get started with the exchange of thoughts…looking forward to it!> > Helena> > > From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:19 AM> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com> Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety> > > Hi Helena,> > I'd be interested to see how you get on. We could backchannel about this if you like.> > Simone> > _____ > > From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com> Sent: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009 19:59:28> Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety> > > Hi Simone,> > Thanks so much! I ordered the book and CD from Amazon.com. Can’t wait to delve in. The reader reviews were excellent.> > Helena> > > From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:30 AM> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com> Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety> > > Hi, Helena,> > I'll attach a review of the book. See what you think. Its early days for me at the moment, you have to commit to doing the exercises at least twice a day, which is a fair old chunk of time, but I am doing it as an experiment - some of the stories in the book were very impressive and I just want to find out for myself. Initial findings are positive! At the very least it is an extremely effective relaxation technique with real science behind it. The book has a Cd with it - so you can read it and do the exercises and then like me if you decide to go further you can do the whole set of exercises.> I'd like to point out that I am doing this alongside ACT - so sorry to folks if I am going off topic a bit - sometimes it just can't be helped!> Be interested to know what you think.> > Simone> > _____ > > From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com> Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 23:16:39> Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety> > > Simone, how is the “Open Focusâ€� work progressing for you? I’m glad you mentioned it again, because I forgot to look it up after your last post.. Do you still have the link available?> > Thanks!> > Helena> > > > > From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:36 PM> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com> Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety> > > Hi Helena,> > I agree. Nipping out for a quick brain scan is not an option for most uf us! Hee hee. I kind of came to the same conclusion as you - an interesting book but as you say, controversial.> > Simone> > _____ > > From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net>> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com> Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 19:06:17> Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety> > > Hi Simone,> > For what it’s worth, that book by Dr. Amen is considered quite controversial by the medical establishmentâ€"not that that makes it bad (and some might think it’s a plus!). I read it shortly after it was published in the late 90’s (I think). > > I found the book fascinating but not very useful for me; getting brain scans done for diagnostic purposes is not really accessible to me or the general population, nor covered by insurance, and to extrapolate his research results to the larger population is not warranted, IMO. Still, with these caveats, I liked the book and am glad I read it. > > I hope you don’t mind my sharing my thoughts here … it is not meant as criticism nor to discourage anyone from reading the book. Dr. Amen may be regarded as revolutionary in the future, or just another misled researcher!> > I also intend to read Stroke of Insight. I saw her on TV and was quite impressed with her story.> > Helena> > > > From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:17 PM> To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com> Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety> > > Hi Bill,> I haven't read 'Stroke of insight', but I am reading 'Change your Brain, Change your Life', by Amen. I too, like you are interested in 'whats under the hood', and this subject has interested me for sometime. Change Your Brain is all about how certain disorders ie, depression/anxiety etc are caused by certain parts of the brain not functioning properly - this is evidenced by 'spect' images or brain scans. In the books it shows some interesting images of peoples brains with different disorders and highlights the part that is not working right. He advocates drug treatment alongside other stuff to look after your brain - meditation/relaxati on, drinking water/positive attitude and loads of other things.> It got me thinking - oh well, may as well just pop a pill and make it all better - but then, with a little effort I believe it is possible to change the structure of the brain through meditation. I know that the Dalai Lama has done much research into this and there are some interesting books on the subject. Because I am interested in brain science I am working with Open Focus which you may have heard me talk about in another post - that too, is geared towards changing the brain in subtle ways, through brain waves and wide/relaxed focus - its very interesting. A lot of people have benefited from it so I am giving it a go, alongside ACT..> Sometimes just a nano-second before I have a panic I almost feel my brain 'fire off' - I am sure there is sometimes to all this!> Its good to swap book ideas. Thanks for posting. I'll read Stroke of insight.> > Simone> > _____ > > From: BILL CAMERON <wcameromsn (DOT) com>> To: ACT_for_the_ Public <act_for_the_ public@yahoogrou ps.com>> Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 13:47:17> Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety> > > I'm reading "My Stroke of Insight" by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to "rewire" her brain to bypass some "files" she decided were "not helpful." The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT.. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know "what's under the hood" or "what's behind the curtain." This book is providing that.> > Bill> > _____ > > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com> From: hpapythotmail (DOT) com> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000> Subject: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety> > > Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am "hard-wired" to be anxious).> > I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work!> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I haven't tried to download anything yet and probably won't be for a couple of weeks, after I get the book and read it. I don't know what to suggest : ( Helena [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety> > > Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am "hard-wired" to be anxious).> > I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work!> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Hi Simone Thanks for that, it turned out I had to add on " mp3 " as a file extension before the computer could recognise them. Kate > > No, it seemed to work ok with me. I opened it in windows media player. Maybe you just have to look at your system and what works with your computer. Sorry I'm not very computer savvy -I had to get my husband to help me! > Hope you sort it out. > Simone > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: ACT_for_the_Public > Sent: Thursday, 8 October, 2009 12:41:03 > Subject: Re: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > Â > > Hi Helena and Simone > > I downloaded some of the exercises from the website but they downloaded as unreadable text files rather than mp3s. Did either of you have any problems like this? > > Cheers > > Kate > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 I love this post from Helena, I also love the Mindfulway Through Depression by Mark williams. I couldn't care less for any of that reality stuff. The sun is shinning outside and I'm going to play some guitar and listen to music. This is hardly Buddhist I agree, but I will disolve my need for everything to be right before I am happy in my own time. Kavy > > Hi Simone, > > It is a new concept to me that my depression may be covering up deep anxiety. It’s covering up a lot, I think †" anxiety, dread, fear of feeling, etc. I feel a resistance to giving up my depression because I think, without it, I would feel quite vulnerable. It has become a comfortable, protective blanket. As an adjunct to ACT, the open focus approach could be a tool that will help cut a hole in that blanket. > > Thanks for the tip about downloading the exercises to MP3; I got one for Christmas and haven’t even used it yet! Five pounds is around $8--quite affordable, a bit at a time. > > It’s so nice to have an “Open Focus†buddy here! I am not expecting a miracle; just open to whatever may (or may not) occur with this intriguing tool. I’m not one to jump on numerous bandwagons, preferring to stay focused one ‘therapy’ at a time; otherwise, it seems an avoidance tactic. But this one is worth trying, I think. > > > Helena > > > From: ACT_for_the_Public [mailto:ACT_for_the_Public ] On Behalf Of Stolton > Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 4:21 AM > To: ACT_for_the_Public > Subject: Re: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Hi Helena, > > I am getting on well with open focus and have noticed a definite improvement in mood - not sure if it's the placebo effect but who cares! > I couldn't afford the whole course in one go either and anyhow I think that might be a bit overwhelming - what I have done after listening to the CD with book for a few weeks in buy the mp3 downloads - you can buy one at a time, they are about £5 each, dollars? think thats about the same $5 - that way its not such a big investment and you can see how you get along a bit at a time. I think the biggest obstacle ( much like meditation) is the commitment to practise - but I make sure that I do it at the very least once a day. > Looking forward to seeing what you make of it. Interesting stuff. You might have apoint about your depression - when I do get depressed it is always secondary to my anxiety - but I too bed wet as a child and still bite my nails! I had an imaginary friend as well!! I there is something in the argument of being 'hardwired' in the brain to be anxious or depressed. Thats why I am interested in the neuroplasticity of the brain - the fact that practices like ACT, meditation and open focus, can, over time change the structure of the brain. > > Simone > > _____ > > > To: ACT_for_the_Public > Sent: Wednesday, 7 October, 2009 21:15:30 > Subject: RE: Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Hi Simone, > > I finally had a chance to listen to this podcast all the way through. I can’t wait to get the book and CD. The ongoing course is way too expensive for me, so I hope I “get it†the jist of it with just the book and introductory CD. > > He said something that struck me in the podcast: “Some people have depression as a way of avoiding anxiety.†That one comment was so revealing to me. I may be reluctant to give up my depression because I fear more what might replace it. > > I was quite anxious as a child …. Nail-biting, sleep-walking, bed-wetting, hair-stroking, repetitive movements, etc. As I got older, I just withdrew, and I could just practice avoidance. > > Looking forward to learning more about Open Focus. > > Helena > > > From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 12:32 PM > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Helena, > > If you go to this link you will find a podcast by Les Fehmi about open focus - thought you and others may be intersted. > > http://www.theatreo <http://www.theatreofthemind.com/podcasts.asp> fthemind. com/podcasts. asp > > > Simone > > _____ > > From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Thursday, 1 October, 2009 16:31:58 > Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Yes, I would love to! I may not have the book for about ten days, since I took free shipping, which is slower.. I’ll email you privately when I am able to get started with the exchange of thoughts…looking forward to it! > > Helena > > > From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:19 AM > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Hi Helena, > > I'd be interested to see how you get on. We could backchannel about this if you like. > > Simone > > _____ > > From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Wednesday, 30 September, 2009 19:59:28 > Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Hi Simone, > > Thanks so much! I ordered the book and CD from Amazon.com. Can’t wait to delve in. The reader reviews were excellent. > > Helena > > > From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:30 AM > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Hi, Helena, > > I'll attach a review of the book. See what you think. Its early days for me at the moment, you have to commit to doing the exercises at least twice a day, which is a fair old chunk of time, but I am doing it as an experiment - some of the stories in the book were very impressive and I just want to find out for myself. Initial findings are positive! At the very least it is an extremely effective relaxation technique with real science behind it. The book has a Cd with it - so you can read it and do the exercises and then like me if you decide to go further you can do the whole set of exercises. > I'd like to point out that I am doing this alongside ACT - so sorry to folks if I am going off topic a bit - sometimes it just can't be helped! > Be interested to know what you think. > > Simone > > _____ > > From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 23:16:39 > Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Simone, how is the “Open Focus†work progressing for you? I’m glad you mentioned it again, because I forgot to look it up after your last post.. Do you still have the link available? > > Thanks! > > Helena > > > > > From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:36 PM > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Hi Helena, > > I agree. Nipping out for a quick brain scan is not an option for most uf us! Hee hee. I kind of came to the same conclusion as you - an interesting book but as you say, controversial. > > Simone > > _____ > > From: Helena Rychener <hbbrcomcast (DOT) net> > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 19:06:17 > Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Hi Simone, > > For what it’s worth, that book by Dr. Amen is considered quite controversial by the medical establishment†" not that that makes it bad (and some might think it’s a plus!). I read it shortly after it was published in the late 90’s (I think). > > I found the book fascinating but not very useful for me; getting brain scans done for diagnostic purposes is not really accessible to me or the general population, nor covered by insurance, and to extrapolate his research results to the larger population is not warranted, IMO. Still, with these caveats, I liked the book and am glad I read it. > > I hope you don’t mind my sharing my thoughts here … it is not meant as criticism nor to discourage anyone from reading the book. Dr. Amen may be regarded as revolutionary in the future, or just another misled researcher! > > I also intend to read Stroke of Insight. I saw her on TV and was quite impressed with her story. > > Helena > > > > From: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:ACT_ for_the_Public@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stolton > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:17 PM > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > Subject: Re: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Hi Bill, > I haven't read 'Stroke of insight', but I am reading 'Change your Brain, Change your Life', by Amen. I too, like you are interested in 'whats under the hood', and this subject has interested me for sometime. Change Your Brain is all about how certain disorders ie, depression/anxiety etc are caused by certain parts of the brain not functioning properly - this is evidenced by 'spect' images or brain scans. In the books it shows some interesting images of peoples brains with different disorders and highlights the part that is not working right. He advocates drug treatment alongside other stuff to look after your brain - meditation/relaxati on, drinking water/positive attitude and loads of other things. > It got me thinking - oh well, may as well just pop a pill and make it all better - but then, with a little effort I believe it is possible to change the structure of the brain through meditation. I know that the Dalai Lama has done much research into this and there are some interesting books on the subject. Because I am interested in brain science I am working with Open Focus which you may have heard me talk about in another post - that too, is geared towards changing the brain in subtle ways, through brain waves and wide/relaxed focus - its very interesting. A lot of people have benefited from it so I am giving it a go, alongside ACT.. > Sometimes just a nano-second before I have a panic I almost feel my brain 'fire off' - I am sure there is sometimes to all this! > Its good to swap book ideas. Thanks for posting. I'll read Stroke of insight. > > Simone > > _____ > > From: BILL CAMERON <wcameromsn (DOT) com> > To: ACT_for_the_ Public <act_for_the_ public@yahoogrou ps.com> > Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 13:47:17 > Subject: RE: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > I'm reading " My Stroke of Insight " by Jill Bolte , a nueroanaotmist. She describes her awareness of having a stroke and recovering from it. During her recovery she decided to " rewire " her brain to bypass some " files " she decided were " not helpful. " The book seems to provide a fair amount of physiological evidence for things that work in ACT.. I would be anxious to hear others comments on the book. I'm the kind of person who likes to know " what's under the hood " or " what's behind the curtain. " This book is providing that. > > Bill > > _____ > > To: ACT_for_the_ Public@yahoogrou ps.com > From: hpapythotmail (DOT) com > Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:14:31 +0000 > Subject: [ACT_for_the_ Public] Starting The Mindfulness & Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety > > > Is there anyone else who is reading this? I just started and wow! It is fascinating. Learning about the difference between fear and anxiety, about different anxiety disorders, that anxiety is always triggered by something (maybe I will revise my belief that I am " hard-wired " to be anxious). > > I am so thankful to the ACT community for all this ground-breaking work! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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