Re: Wiley out touting her product...and a hit on RL women

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Guess I missed that lecture, no loss.  Haven't seen evidence of this fantastic WP website yet. Wow, that comment just shows how far off  the mark they are.martyForwarded to me anonymously. I guess this was on one of the lists Caren uses to contact WP people.Such compassion... ?For those of you who weren't around last year the attitude you see in that note is only a small taste of the attitude. If women don't do well on the WP -- it is their fault and they are just sick - in the head.Laurel> Hi everyone.>> The Santa Pharmacy is Central @ 397 Wilshire Blvd.> 310 395-3294> ask for Sharon Steen>> Susie and I just came back from 4 lectures in N. Ca. They were > fabulous> and it was very well- received everywhere we go.> Susie is almost done with the website and it's quite fantastic.> I will put out an e-mail announcement soon.>> Someone asked about the rhythmicliving site at the Santa Cruz > lecture.> Everyone had a good laugh about how "sick" they appear. (pun > intended)>> Caren

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At least now anyone considering the Wiley Protocol knows they will be ridiculed by the Wiley camp if they eventually become sick on the untested regimen. -- Lynne

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This attitude is very frightening. How could anyone have a good "laugh" at women who became ill??

commenting on Wiley's publicist writing:

Someone asked about the rhythmicliving site at the Santa Cruz> > > lecture.> > > Everyone had a good laugh about how "sick" they appear. (pun> > > intended)> > >> > > Caren> >

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This attitude is very frightening. How could anyone have a

good " laugh " at women who became ill??

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> > Forwarded to me anonymously. I guess this was on one of the lists

> > Caren uses to contact WP people.

> >

> > Such compassion... ?

> > For those of you who weren't around last year the attitude you

see in

> > that note is only a small taste of the attitude. If women don't

do

> > well on the WP -- it is their fault and they are just sick - in

the

> > head.

> >

> > Laurel

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> > > Susie and I just came back from 4 lectures in N. Ca. They were

> > > fabulous

> > > and it was very well- received everywhere we go.

> > > Susie is almost done with the website and it's quite fantastic.

> > > I will put out an e-mail announcement soon.

> > >

> > > Someone asked about the rhythmicliving site at the Santa Cruz

> > > lecture.

> > > Everyone had a good laugh about how " sick " they appear. (pun

> > > intended)

> > >

> > > Caren

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I find the whole thing very interesting.  Wiley pulled deep into a dream that women have to stay young and beautiful.  Remember Annie Lennox singing that old tune"Keep young and beautiful - if you want to be loved" It pulled science and it pulled on the dream.  We were sucked right in.  I don't think Dr. Formby had the capacity to see how he was being used.  People who are deep curious thinkers don't go around figuring out "what the angle is".  They come from another place.  Wiley figures out "what's the angle" so she can capitalize.  That's where the brilliance is! So she knows where the buttons are with the use of promises and threats.  She pulls women in.  I think the WP phenomena is more of a cult to sell product and make Wiley "a household name" than any kind of BHRT.  It makes most multi-level marketing look kinda sweet and nice.  RL isn't just for detox on the P.  It's for deprograming. :-/Its a cult. She's a cult leader.  Southern California has created them before. Celebrities have been pulled in before.  Laurel   This attitude is very frightening. How could anyone have a good "laugh" at women who became ill?? > > > Forwarded to me anonymously. I guess this was on one of the lists> > Caren uses to contact WP people.> >> > Such compassion... ?> > For those of you who weren't around last year the attitude you see in> > that note is only a small taste of the attitude. If women don't do> > well on the WP -- it is their fault and they are just sick - in the> > head.> >> > Laurel> >> > >. 

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Well I wonder just how long it will be before her following ends up

like us. I just don't see how anyone can stay on that protocol

without hurting themselves. But where did that insensitivity come

from ? I don't even think it's greed anymore. I think she really

believes herself!

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> I find the whole thing very interesting. Wiley pulled deep into

a

> dream that women have to stay young and beautiful. Remember

Annie

> Lennox singing that old tune

> " Keep young and beautiful - if you want to be loved "

> It pulled science and it pulled on the dream.

> We were sucked right in.

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I don't know. It's astounding to me that anyone endorsing such

lethal doses of progesterone would DARE ridicule women who get

reactions. I think all that P has gotten to her brain cells !

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>

> At least now anyone considering the Wiley Protocol knows they

will be

> ridiculed by the Wiley camp if they eventually become sick on the

untested regimen.

> -- Lynne

>

> writes:

>

> This attitude is very frightening. How could anyone have a

> good " laugh " at women who became ill??

>

>

>

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Practically every woman I know that has been on it, (except 3) have either done bad or have reduced dosages or stopped it. It would be interesting to know how many REALLY are on the EXACT protocol, without having to take any other meds, (AD's, anti anxiety's, Thyroid, etc). Betcha not many. I saw a video of her from a couple of years ago, (when she was in WA?) and she looked pretty heavy to me)

Liz

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Liz Vernand

www.ojaipaintedminis.com

Well I wonder just how long it will be before her following ends up like us. I just don't see how anyone can stay on that protocol without hurting themselves. But where did that insensitivity come from ? I don't even think it's greed anymore. I think she really believes herself! >> I find the whole thing very interesting. Wiley pulled deep into a > dream that women have to stay young and beautiful. Remember Annie > Lennox singing that old tune> "Keep young and beautiful - if you want to be loved"> It pulled science and it pulled on the dream.> We were sucked right in.

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Yes I'd love to know too! And how all these women are REALLY doing!

No one belonged to that Not RL yahoo group they created. When we

were all complaining of hives and dermatitis because of her Wiley

Protocol base cream and it's toxic ingredients - she laughed us off

too. I wonder if she is still using that base cream and telling

women the itching is all in their heads!

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> Practically every woman I know that has been on it, (except 3)

have either

> done bad or have reduced dosages or stopped it. It would be

interesting to

> know how many REALLY are on the EXACT protocol, without having to

take any

> other meds, (AD's, anti anxiety's, Thyroid, etc). Betcha not many.

I saw a

> video of her from a couple of years ago, (when she was in WA?) and

she

> looked pretty heavy to me)

>

> Liz

>

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Oh, I just remembered.  Caren used Xanax to sleep.  I think she is a tough skinned (in many ways) closed cell wall woman, but she does get some absorbtion.  The WP makes her fatter and she is not normally a fat person.  I suspect the need for Xanax is another clue about how her metabolism works.  Oh yes, women say the protocol is great and then medicate.  All that crap thru the liver and the overdose of hormones.  ticking time bombs?  Wiley, Oh she's fat too.  I'll put stuff up.  The new WP site -- she's fatter again.  More puffy.  The shot is from above (trick to make woman look less fat).  LaurelPractically every woman I know that has been on it, (except 3) have either done bad or have reduced dosages or stopped it. It would be interesting to know how many REALLY are on the EXACT protocol, without having to take any other meds, (AD's, anti anxiety's, Thyroid, etc). Betcha not many. I saw a video of her from a couple of years ago, (when she was in WA?) and she looked pretty heavy to me) Liz __________________________________Liz Vernandwww.ojaipaintedminis.com  Well I wonder just how long it will be before her following ends up like us. I just don't see how anyone can stay on that protocol without hurting themselves. But where did that insensitivity come from ? I don't even think it's greed anymore. I think she really believes herself! >> I find the whole thing very interesting. Wiley pulled deep into a > dream that women have to stay young and beautiful. Remember Annie > Lennox singing that old tune> "Keep young and beautiful - if you want to be loved"> It pulled science and it pulled on the dream.> We were sucked right in.

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And both are in total denial.

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> > > I find the whole thing very interesting. Wiley pulled deep into

> > a

> > > dream that women have to stay young and beautiful. Remember

> > Annie

> > > Lennox singing that old tune

> > > " Keep young and beautiful - if you want to be loved "

> > > It pulled science and it pulled on the dream.

> > > We were sucked right in.

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