Re: MY NEW BHRT SELF DESIGNED PROTOCOL

[Guest guest]

Val:

Estriol was a big fad along with the progesterone/Lee craze. Fact is Estriol is just as stimulative to breast tissue as straight E when used in doses that are high enough to ease symptoms. Estriol vaginally is a great lubricator.

Sammie

[Guest guest]

Why are you using it in your WIP cream?

Val

Val:

My doctor thought it would be good for vaginal dryness, since I dont think it does much of anything I didnt argue with him.

Sammie

[Guest guest]

wow! that is flat out astounding!!

--- Valarie wrote:

> Well, apparently, you are getting E2 from that

> cream. Here is a study on

> estriol " ointment. " I don't know the composition of

> the ointment.

>

> Arch Gynecol Obstet. 1993;253(2):71-4.

>

> When applied to facial skin, does estrogen ointment

> have systemic effects?

>

> Kainz C, Gitsch G, Stani J, Breitenecker G, Binder

> M, Schmidt JB.

> 2nd Department of Gynecology and Obstetrics,

> University of Vienna, School of

> Medicine, Austria.

>

> We examined cytological vaginal smears of 17 women

> before and after three

> months of dermal estrogen (1 g of 0.01% estradiol

> ointment or 0.3% estriol

> ointment once daily), applied to the face for

> dermatological indications.

> The mean age was 57.1 +/- 7.6 years (range from 46

> to 66). Seven women had

> estrogenic smears (more than 10% superficial cells)

> before therapy. Nine

> women were treated with 0.01% estradiol ointment and

> 8 were treated with

> 0.3% estriol ointment. Both groups had gynecological

> examinations including

> cervical and vaginal smears before and after

> treatment and also monthly

> measurements of serum follicle-stimulating hormone,

> prolactin and estradiol

> levels. Serum hormone levels and the appearance of

> vaginal smears showed no

> significant change during treatment.

>

> PMID: 8215610 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

>

> Val

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: rhythmicliving

> [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of

> carolyn egan

>

> Last month, my last on WP, my new gyn ordered a

> bunch

> of tests.

> Unfortunately it was on my day 18, but here they

> are:

>

> E2 = 197 pg/ml P = 15.8 ng/ml

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah, estriol was a Lee thing. It is assimilated through mucus membranes - vaginal, eyes, etc. I have read about estriol being less desireable because when it metabolizes down its path, it is a bigger exciter of estradiol on the breast. It metabolizes down a different path than estradiol. That's putting it in super lay terms.

Why are you using it in your WIP cream?

Val

-----Original Message-----From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of Sami4ESP@...

Estriol was a big fad along with the progesterone/Lee craze. Fact is Estriol is just as stimulative to breast tissue as straight E when used in doses that are high enough to ease symptoms. Estriol vaginally is a great lubricator.

Sammie

[Guest guest]

I wonder if the estriol would be a lubricator of my eyes, which have

become dried out sockets!

> Yeah, estriol was a Lee thing. It is assimilated through mucus

membranes -

> vaginal, eyes, etc. I have read about estriol being less

desireable because

> when it metabolizes down its path, it is a bigger exciter of

estradiol on

> the breast. It metabolizes down a different path than estradiol.

That's

> putting it in super lay terms.

>

> Why are you using it in your WIP cream?

> Val

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: rhythmicliving

> [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of Sami4ESP@A...

>

>

> Estriol was a big fad along with the progesterone/Lee craze.

Fact is

> Estriol is just as stimulative to breast tissue as straight E when

used in

> doses that are high enough to ease symptoms. Estriol vaginally is

a great

> lubricator.

> Sammie

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't want to put estriol cream in my eyes!

Val

-----Original Message-----From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of I wonder if the estriol would be a lubricator of my eyes, which have become dried out sockets!

[Guest guest]

LOL!!!!! Not in my eyes! Using estriol cream might help with dry eyes.

You are so funny!

> I wouldn't want to put estriol cream in my eyes!

>

> Val

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: rhythmicliving

> [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of

>

>

> I wonder if the estriol would be a lubricator of my eyes, which have

> become dried out sockets!

[Guest guest]

I had very dry eyes until I got enough thyroid hormone and estrogen.

Thyroid is especially important.

Val

-----Original Message-----

From:

LOL!!!!! Not in my eyes! Using estriol cream might help with dry eyes.

You are so funny!

[Guest guest]

Oh yes I know. I'm having that tested now. I just don't get it

though. The dryness only happens the day after I apply the P!

> I had very dry eyes until I got enough thyroid hormone and

estrogen.

> Thyroid is especially important.

>

> Val

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From:

>

> LOL!!!!! Not in my eyes! Using estriol cream might help with dry

eyes.

> You are so funny!