Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 This never occurred to me but it makes sense. I take one but I'm not faithful with it...gonna have to be more aware about taking some all day and see what happens. This is a good site for more information. http://www.enzymestuff.com/ Lynn > > Recently I began to study the various effects of oral enzyme therapy... reading Dr. > , reading up on the enzymes I take,.... and it occurred to me, that for those who > are dealing with getting the progesterone OUT of their bodies without harming themselves > even more, could is be a possibility that taking a high quality protease, lipase and amylase > combo might speed the breakdown and removal of the 'potentially' fat stored P? > > I was reading on enzymedica.com about the various benefits.... > > http://www.enzymedica.com/enzyme_benefits.php > > Although this does not at all speak directly to the P storage reality (nothing seems to!) > there might be some merit to researching the use of enzymes during the detox process. > > As I begin another oral round of P I am considering increasing my enzymes before each > meal, take at least one on an empty stomach, then follow with the usual routine within the > meal... what if I can eliminate some of the liver metabolites processed from the first pass > deal and avoid some of this misery-?? Worth a try. > > I use Enzymedica Gold at each meal and have for a few years. As an enzyme experimenter > it is the only one I found that dealt 100% with my nebulous digestive woes.... > > Anyone else know anything or think anything about the use of enzymes to break down > stored P or at least enhance the bodies efficiency in eliminating-?? > > Eileen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 .... especially lipase.... the fat digester.... > > > > Recently I began to study the various effects of oral enzyme > therapy... reading Dr. > > , reading up on the enzymes I take,.... and it occurred to > me, that for those who > > are dealing with getting the progesterone OUT of their bodies > without harming themselves > > even more, could is be a possibility that taking a high quality > protease, lipase and amylase > > combo might speed the breakdown and removal of the 'potentially' fat > stored P? > > > > I was reading on enzymedica.com about the various benefits.... > > > > http://www.enzymedica.com/enzyme_benefits.php > > > > Although this does not at all speak directly to the P storage > reality (nothing seems to!) > > there might be some merit to researching the use of enzymes during > the detox process. > > > > As I begin another oral round of P I am considering increasing my > enzymes before each > > meal, take at least one on an empty stomach, then follow with the > usual routine within the > > meal... what if I can eliminate some of the liver metabolites > processed from the first pass > > deal and avoid some of this misery-?? Worth a try. > > > > I use Enzymedica Gold at each meal and have for a few years. As an > enzyme experimenter > > it is the only one I found that dealt 100% with my nebulous > digestive woes.... > > > > Anyone else know anything or think anything about the use of enzymes > to break down > > stored P or at least enhance the bodies efficiency in eliminating-?? > > > > Eileen > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Hi Eileen, I have had to take enzymes for many years, since I never had enough stomach acid. I also wasn't able to digest proteins - meat, fat and cheese - well. I used to take about 500mg Pankreatin at every meal, which every " not so healthy " person should take when they get older (since the body produces less enzymes, and that's how arthritis and other auto immune diseases usually start, also with the accumulation of stress over the years. ..) When I took the high P on the WP, (we know how it increases the production of cortisol and negatively alters the whole hormonal metabolism), I developed all kinds of pathologies - painful veins and hemorrhoids, constipation big time, skin rashes and itching, iHerpes, insomnia, candida you name it....- I had the flu 3 times in 4 months that year (before, the usual thing had been one cold per year!).But then I did not know about the specific protease enzyme potential to swallow all those pathogens the moment you feel something's wrong with your body. If you take the enzymes with your protein meals, the protease will help you with digesting your protein food, but Pancreatin and/or BHT (Hydrochloric acid from beets) can do t h a t and they are cheaper. You can also take " Wobenzym-N " , a product from Germany that does everything, but you have to take 3-5 pills one half hour before meals, and those pills are v e r y expensive. And of course, we know what lots of P do to our systems, EnzyMedica has a protease product that's called " Vira stop " , because it gobbles up all kinds of " pathologies' -unhealthy harmful poteinlike substances that are the result of " unclean " or " unbalanced " dietary habits and can ease the formation of bad bacteria or/and potential viruses. It is good to take " vira stop " in between meals (1 hr. before or 2 hrs after a meal). It's also said to help with fibroids. (Fibroids were recently mentioned in posts in connection with Nattokinase. ) Love, Charlotte ------------------------ enzyme therapy > Recently I began to study the various effects of oral enzyme therapy... > reading Dr. > , reading up on the enzymes I take,.... and it occurred to me, > that for those who > are dealing with getting the progesterone OUT of their bodies without > harming themselves > even more, could is be a possibility that taking a high quality protease, > lipase and amylase > combo might speed the breakdown and removal of the 'potentially' fat > stored P? > > I was reading on enzymedica.com about the various benefits.... > > http://www.enzymedica.com/enzyme_benefits.php > > Although this does not at all speak directly to the P storage reality > (nothing seems to!) > there might be some merit to researching the use of enzymes during the > detox process. > > As I begin another oral round of P I am considering increasing my enzymes > before each > meal, take at least one on an empty stomach, then follow with the usual > routine within the > meal... what if I can eliminate some of the liver metabolites processed > from the first pass > deal and avoid some of this misery-?? Worth a try. > > I use Enzymedica Gold at each meal and have for a few years. As an enzyme > experimenter > it is the only one I found that dealt 100% with my nebulous digestive > woes.... > > Anyone else know anything or think anything about the use of enzymes to > break down > stored P or at least enhance the bodies efficiency in eliminating-?? > > Eileen > > > > > > > click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/ > > **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not intended as > medical advice.** > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 "Charlotte N." wrote: You can also take "Wobenzym-N",a product from Germany that does everything, but you have to take 3-5 pills one half hour before meals, and those pills are v e r y expensive. Charloote, The Wobenzyms-N is what I have been taking for years. I have my 92-yr old mother-in-law who just got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer on them as well. She claims they are helping her! I have a 84 yr old client who had pancreatic cancer at age 80 and took these pills along with other supplements and his mass completely disappeared. (He was told he would live 6 weeks after diagnosis). He calls them WoBEGones! I get 800 pills from www.costlessvitamins.com for around $89. Madeleen>>>>>>> click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/>> **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not intended as > medical advice.**> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Great, Madeleen! Thanks for the tip. When I run out of my present digestive supplements, I'll give them a try. Love, Charlotte ------------ Re: enzyme therapy "Charlotte N." wrote: You can also take "Wobenzym-N",a product from Germany that does everything, but you have to take 3-5 pills one half hour before meals, and those pills are v e r y expensive. Charloote, The Wobenzyms-N is what I have been taking for years. I have my 92-yr old mother-in-law who just got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer on them as well. She claims they are helping her! I have a 84 yr old client who had pancreatic cancer at age 80 and took these pills along with other supplements and his mass completely disappeared. (He was told he would live 6 weeks after diagnosis). He calls them WoBEGones! I get 800 pills from www.costlessvitamins.com for around $89. Madeleen>>>>>>> click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/>> **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not intended as > medical advice.**> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 > > > Lynn,... thank you for the excellent web link... wow, everything you > ever wanted to know... > > Charlotte, ... thank you for sharing all that you did about your > experience with enzymes. You know a lot! I'll check out the > Wobenzym-N. Maybe the Vira-stop during P phase..?..... I'm on day 5 > of oral P, working up in dose in 25 mg increments... at 175 mg,..... > taking each P dose ( divided into 3 times a day) with Enzymedica Gold. > And increasing each meal and snack by one more enzyme..... Will let > everyone know if it appears to have any impact on the edema, itching, > constipation, depression, hair loss, agitation, nigh time limb > numbness and fatigue that occurs with P for me.... (I already have > worsening brain fog.....) thanks again for the helpful info. ;-)))) > > Eileen >> Posted by: " Lynn " lyn122@... lyn122 >> >> Sat Jul 8, 2006 11:39 am (PST) >> This never occurred to me but it makes sense. I take one but I'm not >> faithful with it...gonna have to be more aware about taking some all >> day and see what happens. >> >> This is a good site for more information. >> http://www.enzymestuff.com/ >> >> Lynn >> >> On Jul 9, 2006, at 7:44 AM, rhythmicliving wrote: >> >>> Re: enzyme therapy >>> >>> >>> Posted by: " Charlotte N. " mcharlot@... >>> >>> >>> >>> Sat Jul 8, 2006 10:12 pm (PST) >>> Hi Eileen, >>> >>> >>> I have had to take enzymes for many years, since I never had enough >>> stomach >>> >>> >>> acid. I also wasn't able to digest proteins - meat, fat and cheese >>> - well. I >>> >>> >>> used to take about 500mg Pankreatin at every meal, which every " not >>> so >>> >>> >>> healthy " person should take when they get older (since the body >>> produces >>> >>> >>> less enzymes, and that's how arthritis and other auto immune >>> diseases >>> >>> >>> usually start, also with the accumulation of stress over the years. >>> ..) >>> >>> >>> >>> When I took the high P on the WP, (we know how it increases the >>> production >>> >>> >>> of cortisol and negatively alters the whole hormonal metabolism), I >>> >>> >>> developed all kinds of pathologies - painful veins and hemorrhoids, >>> >>> >>> constipation big time, skin rashes and itching, iHerpes, insomnia, >>> candida >>> >>> >>> you name it....- I had the flu 3 times in 4 months that year >>> (before, the >>> >>> >>> usual thing had been one cold per year!).But then I did not know >>> about the >>> >>> >>> specific protease enzyme potential to swallow all those pathogens >>> the moment >>> >>> >>> you feel something's wrong with your body. If you take the enzymes >>> with your >>> >>> >>> protein meals, the protease will help you with digesting your >>> protein food, >>> >>> >>> but Pancreatin and/or BHT (Hydrochloric acid from beets) can do >>> >>> >>> t h a t and they are cheaper. You can also take " Wobenzym-N " , >>> >>> >>> a product from Germany that does everything, but you have to take >>> 3-5 pills >>> >>> >>> one half hour before meals, and those pills are v e r y expensive. >>> >>> >>> And of course, we know what lots of P do to our systems, >>> >>> >>> EnzyMedica has a protease product that's called " Vira stop " , >>> because it >>> >>> >>> gobbles up all kinds of " pathologies' -unhealthy harmful poteinlike >>> >>> >>> substances that are the result of " unclean " or " unbalanced " dietary >>> habits >>> >>> >>> and can ease the formation of bad bacteria or/and potential >>> viruses. It is >>> >>> >>> good to take " vira stop " in between meals (1 hr. before or 2 hrs >>> after a >>> >>> >>> meal). It's also said to help with fibroids. (Fibroids were recently >>> >>> >>> mentioned in posts in connection with Nattokinase. ) >>> >>> >>> Love, >>> >>> >>> Charlotte >> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/growhair/ >> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/growhair/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/growhair/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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