Guest guest Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Wahoo, great news, you may have made a discovery, thinking out of the box. great going Lyn. Watt was the mix you used, one part HP, two parts dmso? ????????? As ernie ford would say, bless your pea picking heart, david lubbock tx. > ** > > > I don't know why I did not even once think of trying this until this > morning. But peroxide takes that smell right out of DMSO. I dropped some in > my stinky shot glass this morning and smelled it and it seemed to dim. So I > left it sit and went back to it and the smell was GONE. I happily took my > dose this morning and no smell and no taste. Just water! Amazing!!! As for > what chemical compound is created when the two are combined, I have no clue. > I will just keep doing it and see if I have the same results that I was > getting before. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Hydrogen Peroxide and DMSO Miracle Products<http://yourhealth-tonir.blogspot.com/2007/11/hydrogen-peroxide-and-dmso\ -miracle.html> <http://bp2.blogger.com/_gsMbftNgXM0/Rzxt-Mt45eI/AAAAAAAAAGg/HcAsJJqO2eE/s1600-h\ /TRIP+W.+BILL+AND+JULIE+158.jpg> Did you know that cancer cannot survive in oxygen? Hydrogen peroxide and DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) help cure herpes, arthritis, cancer, MS and other virus-type diseases. These two products effectively flood your body with oxygen. According to Dr. Otto Walberg (Nobel Prize winner), cancer and all viruses cannot live in an oxygen rich environment. When your body has little oxygen it's pH is acidic, flooding your body with oxygen changes your body pH to alkaline. In return, your energy is boosted and cancer and viruses instantly die. So, why haven't we heard of this before? They are extremely inexpensive and unpatentable. Which means no one will spend serious money for research on the effects of these products. The pharmaceutical industry does not want these products on the market and will suppress information about them. Unfortunately, the FDA will not allow this treatment because it is not a patentable drug. This is not done to protect the public, but to protect their profits at our expense. There are so many benefits from these two products, PLEASE go to the Internet and search for DMSO or hydogen peroxide and read about their benefits. Now remember, the pharmaceutical industry is doing everything in their power to suppress this information, so they have set up a host of websites that are very negative about these two products. I'll tell you what, if I had cancer, there is no way that I would subject my body to chemotherapy. There is a clinic in Mexico with a very high success rate from this therapy for cancer, Dr. Kurt W. Donsbach in rio Beach, Mexico (link below). david lubbock tx. On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Mara Miles wrote: > ** > > > Any chemists here available to comment on whether this forms a > harmful chemical compound? If not, this is a brilliant solution! > > mara > > > > > > Wahoo, great news, you may have made a discovery, thinking out of > > the box. > > great going Lyn. Watt was the mix you used, one part HP, two parts > > dmso? > > ????????? > > As ernie ford would say, bless your pea picking heart, david > > lubbock tx. > > > > > > > >> ** > >> > >> > >> I don't know why I did not even once think of trying this until this > >> morning. But peroxide takes that smell right out of DMSO. I > >> dropped some in > >> my stinky shot glass this morning and smelled it and it seemed to > >> dim. So I > >> left it sit and went back to it and the smell was GONE. I happily > >> took my > >> dose this morning and no smell and no taste. Just water! > >> Amazing!!! As for > >> what chemical compound is created when the two are combined, I > >> have no clue. > >> I will just keep doing it and see if I have the same results that > >> I was > >> getting before. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 When I first heard of this years back I took it at face value, but there are issues with the model that niggle me and I don't think it is correct. People massively over simply the pH/Cancer model, its not just a linear scale like the pH scale itself is, there are loads of dimensions (and hence loads of 'cures' or at least management techniques. On the *inside* of a 'cancer' cell it is alkaline not acidic. It has to be alkaline for the fermentation process, and there can be oxygen in there as well and it will still ferment. What determines whether there is oxidative phosphorylation is the pH *inside* the cell, in the centre, in the mitochondria. It may be acidic outside, but that's cancer faeces - a resulting waste, not the cause. I said already about HCl, Potassium and DMSO. Also Very high doses of Vit C (low doses would actually worsen the problem since it Vit C can be anti-oxidant or pro-oxidant depending on concentration), but high doses form H2O2 right where you want it, because it looks almost the same as a glucose molecule, so you can starve it of sugar then do the trojan horse thing with Vit C. Just like I said regarding the Jim Humble thing about Vit C is just wrong (I sell MMS so I don't want to see JH say anything wrong, but truth comes first). So don't think about it as just oxygen, but where it is, how stable it is, what it reacts with etc, whether it's H2O2, ClO2 or any other Oxygen carrying molecule. This oxidant/antioxident thing is a double edged sword, we need both, but also in the right location right time right concentration. > Hydrogen Peroxide and DMSO Miracle > Products<http://yourhealth-tonir.blogspot.com/2007/11/hydrogen-peroxide-and-dmso\ -miracle.html> > > <http://bp2.blogger.com/_gsMbftNgXM0/Rzxt-Mt45eI/AAAAAAAAAGg/HcAsJJqO2eE/s1600-h\ /TRIP+W.+BILL+AND+JULIE+158.jpg> > Did you know that cancer cannot survive in oxygen? > > Hydrogen peroxide and DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) help cure herpes, arthritis, > cancer, MS and other virus-type diseases. These two products effectively > flood your body with oxygen. According to Dr. Otto Walberg (Nobel Prize > winner), cancer and all viruses cannot live in an oxygen rich environment. > When your body has little oxygen it's pH is acidic, flooding your body with > oxygen changes your body pH to alkaline. In return, your energy is boosted > and cancer and viruses instantly die. > > So, why haven't we heard of this before? They are extremely inexpensive and > unpatentable. Which means no one will spend serious money for research on > the effects of these products. The pharmaceutical industry does not want > these products on the market and will suppress information about them. > Unfortunately, the FDA will not allow this treatment because it is not a > patentable drug. This is not done to protect the public, but to protect > their profits at our expense. > > There are so many benefits from these two products, PLEASE go to the > Internet and search for DMSO or hydogen peroxide and read about their > benefits. Now remember, the pharmaceutical industry is doing everything in > their power to suppress this information, so they have set up a host of > websites that are very negative about these two products. I'll tell you > what, if I had cancer, there is no way that I would subject my body to > chemotherapy. There is a clinic in Mexico with a very high success rate from > this therapy for cancer, Dr. Kurt W. Donsbach in rio Beach, Mexico (link > below). david lubbock tx. > > On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Mara Mileswrote: > >> ** >> >> >> Any chemists here available to comment on whether this forms a >> harmful chemical compound? If not, this is a brilliant solution! >> >> mara >> >> >> >> >>> Wahoo, great news, you may have made a discovery, thinking out of >>> the box. >>> great going Lyn. Watt was the mix you used, one part HP, two parts >>> dmso? >>> ????????? >>> As ernie ford would say, bless your pea picking heart, david >>> lubbock tx. >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Lyn wrote: >>> >>>> ** >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't know why I did not even once think of trying this until this >>>> morning. But peroxide takes that smell right out of DMSO. I >>>> dropped some in >>>> my stinky shot glass this morning and smelled it and it seemed to >>>> dim. So I >>>> left it sit and went back to it and the smell was GONE. I happily >>>> took my >>>> dose this morning and no smell and no taste. Just water! >>>> Amazing!!! As for >>>> what chemical compound is created when the two are combined, I >>>> have no clue. >>>> I will just keep doing it and see if I have the same results that >>>> I was >>>> getting before. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 I'm not a chemist, but I'll take a wild stab in the dark and guess that perhaps the H2O2 is donating its weakly bound oxgygen back to the stinky DMS and recycling it back into DMSO again purther potentiating the effects of DMSO and negating the effects of H2O2 on a 'on demand' basis? > > Any chemists here available to comment on whether this forms a > harmful chemical compound? If not, this is a brilliant solution! > > mara > > > > > Wahoo, great news, you may have made a discovery, thinking out of > > the box. > > great going Lyn. Watt was the mix you used, one part HP, two parts > > dmso? > > ????????? > > As ernie ford would say, bless your pea picking heart, david > > lubbock tx. > > > > On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Lyn <godisbest4me@... > <mailto:godisbest4me%40yahoo.com>> wrote: > > > >> ** > >> > >> > >> I don't know why I did not even once think of trying this until this > >> morning. But peroxide takes that smell right out of DMSO. I > >> dropped some in > >> my stinky shot glass this morning and smelled it and it seemed to > >> dim. So I > >> left it sit and went back to it and the smell was GONE. I happily > >> took my > >> dose this morning and no smell and no taste. Just water! > >> Amazing!!! As for > >> what chemical compound is created when the two are combined, I > >> have no clue. > >> I will just keep doing it and see if I have the same results that > >> I was > >> getting before. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 In my tiny mind, there has always been some trepidation with using dmso, suppose for example, we happen to have a meningitis pathogen, viral/bacteria floating around in our blood, at that point, no fear, as it has not reached the spinal fluids, our bodies immune system is working overtime, passed it's shift, to isolate it from the spinal fluids, we ingest dmso, it carries the virus/bacteria into the fluid or into our brain, . wahoo, we have a problem houston. God did put the blood brain barrier there for a reason, and violating that barrier is of some concern. I personally would not do it w/o a load of iodine in my thyroid/blood to help kill off pathogens. With the addition of HP, the possibility of that occurring is less, as the additional oxygen from HP would render the vius/bac less threatening, I am thinking, it just makes sense, to use HP w/ dmso, Lyn, not peer reviewed, LOL's, We shall call this, " Lyn's Discovery " , dmso/peroxide/iodine therapy a cure all, The greatest snake oil, ever, goodbye cancer, parasites, brain fog, Add in LDN, and you are bullet proof, david lubbock tx. > Hydrogen Peroxide and DMSO Miracle Products<http://yourhealth-tonir.blogspot.com/2007/11/hydrogen-peroxide-and-dmso\ -miracle.html> > > > <http://bp2.blogger.com/_gsMbftNgXM0/Rzxt-Mt45eI/AAAAAAAAAGg/HcAsJJqO2eE/s1600-h\ /TRIP+W.+BILL+AND+JULIE+158.jpg> > Did you know that cancer cannot survive in oxygen? > > Hydrogen peroxide and DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) help cure herpes, > arthritis, cancer, MS and other virus-type diseases. These two products > effectively flood your body with oxygen. According to Dr. Otto Walberg > (Nobel Prize winner), cancer and all viruses cannot live in an oxygen rich > environment. When your body has little oxygen it's pH is acidic, flooding > your body with oxygen changes your body pH to alkaline. In return, your > energy is boosted and cancer and viruses instantly die. > > So, why haven't we heard of this before? They are extremely inexpensive and > unpatentable. Which means no one will spend serious money for research on > the effects of these products. The pharmaceutical industry does not want > these products on the market and will suppress information about them. > Unfortunately, the FDA will not allow this treatment because it is not a > patentable drug. This is not done to protect the public, but to protect > their profits at our expense. > > There are so many benefits from these two products, PLEASE go to the > Internet and search for DMSO or hydogen peroxide and read about their > benefits. Now remember, the pharmaceutical industry is doing everything in > their power to suppress this information, so they have set up a host of > websites that are very negative about these two products. I'll tell you > what, if I had cancer, there is no way that I would subject my body to > chemotherapy. There is a clinic in Mexico with a very high success rate from > this therapy for cancer, Dr. Kurt W. Donsbach in rio Beach, Mexico (link > below). david lubbock tx. > > On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Mara Miles wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> Any chemists here available to comment on whether this forms a >> harmful chemical compound? If not, this is a brilliant solution! >> >> mara >> >> >> >> >> > Wahoo, great news, you may have made a discovery, thinking out of >> > the box. >> > great going Lyn. Watt was the mix you used, one part HP, two parts >> > dmso? >> > ????????? >> > As ernie ford would say, bless your pea picking heart, david >> > lubbock tx. >> > >> > >> > >> >> ** >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't know why I did not even once think of trying this until this >> >> morning. But peroxide takes that smell right out of DMSO. I >> >> dropped some in >> >> my stinky shot glass this morning and smelled it and it seemed to >> >> dim. So I >> >> left it sit and went back to it and the smell was GONE. I happily >> >> took my >> >> dose this morning and no smell and no taste. Just water! >> >> Amazing!!! As for >> >> what chemical compound is created when the two are combined, I >> >> have no clue. >> >> I will just keep doing it and see if I have the same results that >> >> I was >> >> getting before. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Any chemists here available to comment on whether this forms a harmful chemical compound? If not, this is a brilliant solution! mara > Wahoo, great news, you may have made a discovery, thinking out of > the box. > great going Lyn. Watt was the mix you used, one part HP, two parts > dmso? > ????????? > As ernie ford would say, bless your pea picking heart, david > lubbock tx. > > > >> ** >> >> >> I don't know why I did not even once think of trying this until this >> morning. But peroxide takes that smell right out of DMSO. I >> dropped some in >> my stinky shot glass this morning and smelled it and it seemed to >> dim. So I >> left it sit and went back to it and the smell was GONE. I happily >> took my >> dose this morning and no smell and no taste. Just water! >> Amazing!!! As for >> what chemical compound is created when the two are combined, I >> have no clue. >> I will just keep doing it and see if I have the same results that >> I was >> getting before. >> >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Holy apple dumplings, I added a capful of Food grade HP, 35 percent to my iodine cocktail, just now, my mouth is rushing with oxygen bubbles, so it does not oxygenate until you put it in the mouth and I feel some pressure in my tummy, like gas building up. It did mellow the taste taste some. If you don't hear from me for several days, don't try this, david lubbock tx. > ** > > > I'm not a chemist, but I'll take a wild stab in the dark and guess that > perhaps the H2O2 is donating its weakly bound oxgygen back to the stinky > DMS and recycling it back into DMSO again purther potentiating the > effects of DMSO and negating the effects of H2O2 on a 'on demand' basis? > > > > > > > > > Any chemists here available to comment on whether this forms a > > harmful chemical compound? If not, this is a brilliant solution! > > > > mara > > > > > > > > > Wahoo, great news, you may have made a discovery, thinking out of > > > the box. > > > great going Lyn. Watt was the mix you used, one part HP, two parts > > > dmso? > > > ????????? > > > As ernie ford would say, bless your pea picking heart, david > > > lubbock tx. > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Lyn <godisbest4me@... > > <mailto:godisbest4me%40yahoo.com>> wrote: > > > > > >> ** > > >> > > >> > > >> I don't know why I did not even once think of trying this until this > > >> morning. But peroxide takes that smell right out of DMSO. I > > >> dropped some in > > >> my stinky shot glass this morning and smelled it and it seemed to > > >> dim. So I > > >> left it sit and went back to it and the smell was GONE. I happily > > >> took my > > >> dose this morning and no smell and no taste. Just water! > > >> Amazing!!! As for > > >> what chemical compound is created when the two are combined, I > > >> have no clue. > > >> I will just keep doing it and see if I have the same results that > > >> I was > > >> getting before. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 OMG, don't do the food grade, I suffered projectile vomiting, the generation of oxygen was too much for my tummy, I must look like a rabid dog, foaming at the mouth. So we most likely need something a little less concentrated, or much less peroxide than I took. I shall try less tomorrow, not today. Also is just occurred to me, I took an oxidant and anti-oxidant together, a no-no. lemon and peroxide. MM, have you pondered using perioxide in a nebulizer to get oxygen into your blood to combat lyme's? The most I am able to stand is a twelve percent in my neb, and it drys out my lungs and bronchial tubes, within short order. I know most use the 2 or three percent from the local store. I still reserve the right to think iodine therapy in higher doses would be good for Lyme's. Lyme's seems to mutate over time, and evades most things, but it cannot evade iodine. If iodine does not kill it, it would put it into remission as long as you took iodine. david lubbock tx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Hi , Thanks for your response. Yes, I am very familiar with both products and use them both. When I was first dx'd with Chronic Lyme I was give Vit. C IV which turns into peroxide in the body. The Doc who did this used to use peroxide IV but was forced to stop by the Medical board who threatened to take away his license. I just wondered if combining the two (peroxide and DMSO) would form any harmful compounds. Some things taken separately work great, but in combination might be harmful. Mara > PLEASE go to the > Internet and search for DMSO or hydogen peroxide and read about their > benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Viruses and bacteria are too large for DMSO to transport so no worries there. Garnet > In my tiny mind, there has always been some trepidation with using dmso, > suppose for example, we happen to have a meningitis pathogen, viral/bacteria > floating around in our blood, at that point, no fear, as it has not reached > the spinal fluids, our bodies immune system is working overtime, passed it's > shift, to isolate it from the spinal fluids, we ingest dmso, it carries the > virus/bacteria into the fluid or into our brain, . wahoo, we have a problem > houston. God did put the blood brain barrier there for a reason, and > violating that barrier is of some concern. I personally would not do it w/o > a load of iodine in my thyroid/blood to help kill off pathogens. > With the addition of HP, the possibility of that occurring is less, as the > additional oxygen from HP would render the vius/bac less threatening, I am > thinking, it just makes sense, to use HP w/ dmso, Lyn, not peer reviewed, > LOL's, > We shall call this, " Lyn's Discovery " , dmso/peroxide/iodine therapy a cure > all, > The greatest snake oil, ever, goodbye cancer, parasites, brain fog, Add in > LDN, and you are bullet proof, david lubbock tx. > > > >> Hydrogen Peroxide and DMSO Miracle Products<http://yourhealth-tonir.blogspot.com/2007/11/hydrogen-peroxide-and-dmso\ -miracle.html> >> >> >> <http://bp2.blogger.com/_gsMbftNgXM0/Rzxt-Mt45eI/AAAAAAAAAGg/HcAsJJqO2eE/s1600-h\ /TRIP+W.+BILL+AND+JULIE+158.jpg> >> Did you know that cancer cannot survive in oxygen? >> >> Hydrogen peroxide and DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) help cure herpes, >> arthritis, cancer, MS and other virus-type diseases. These two products >> effectively flood your body with oxygen. According to Dr. Otto Walberg >> (Nobel Prize winner), cancer and all viruses cannot live in an oxygen rich >> environment. When your body has little oxygen it's pH is acidic, flooding >> your body with oxygen changes your body pH to alkaline. In return, your >> energy is boosted and cancer and viruses instantly die. >> >> So, why haven't we heard of this before? They are extremely inexpensive and >> unpatentable. Which means no one will spend serious money for research on >> the effects of these products. The pharmaceutical industry does not want >> these products on the market and will suppress information about them. >> Unfortunately, the FDA will not allow this treatment because it is not a >> patentable drug. This is not done to protect the public, but to protect >> their profits at our expense. >> >> There are so many benefits from these two products, PLEASE go to the >> Internet and search for DMSO or hydogen peroxide and read about their >> benefits. Now remember, the pharmaceutical industry is doing everything in >> their power to suppress this information, so they have set up a host of >> websites that are very negative about these two products. I'll tell you >> what, if I had cancer, there is no way that I would subject my body to >> chemotherapy. There is a clinic in Mexico with a very high success rate from >> this therapy for cancer, Dr. Kurt W. Donsbach in rio Beach, Mexico (link >> below). david lubbock tx. >> >> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Mara Mileswrote: >> >>> ** >>> >>> >>> Any chemists here available to comment on whether this forms a >>> harmful chemical compound? If not, this is a brilliant solution! >>> >>> mara >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Wahoo, great news, you may have made a discovery, thinking out of >>>> the box. >>>> great going Lyn. Watt was the mix you used, one part HP, two parts >>>> dmso? >>>> ????????? >>>> As ernie ford would say, bless your pea picking heart, david >>>> lubbock tx. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Lyn wrote: >>>> >>>>> ** >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't know why I did not even once think of trying this until this >>>>> morning. But peroxide takes that smell right out of DMSO. I >>>>> dropped some in >>>>> my stinky shot glass this morning and smelled it and it seemed to >>>>> dim. So I >>>>> left it sit and went back to it and the smell was GONE. I happily >>>>> took my >>>>> dose this morning and no smell and no taste. Just water! >>>>> Amazing!!! As for >>>>> what chemical compound is created when the two are combined, I >>>>> have no clue. >>>>> I will just keep doing it and see if I have the same results that >>>>> I was >>>>> getting before. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 I believe that what you made was water and MSM. I have actually long pointed out to people that ask about mixing the two, the below: H2O2 is an oxidzing agent, that is it donates an atom of oxygen and is highly reactive so very happy and active in donating O. DMSO is an antioxidant, that is it readily accepts the O that H2O2 is actively donating. H2O2 + CH3(2)SO (DMSO) --> H2O + CH3(2)SO2 (MSM) The reason there was no smell would be, if I am correct in my chemistry, that MSM does not smell. Although it generally tastes slightly bitter when I put my tablespoon or two in a 1/4 c of distilled water to shoot it. You may have not made much MSM, or enough to taste bitter. Garnet > > I don't know why I did not even once think of trying this until this > morning. But peroxide takes that smell right out of DMSO. I dropped > some in my stinky shot glass this morning and smelled it and it seemed > to dim. So I left it sit and went back to it and the smell was GONE. I > happily took my dose this morning and no smell and no taste. Just > water! Amazing!!! As for what chemical compound is created when the > two are combined, I have no clue. I will just keep doing it and see if > I have the same results that I was getting before. > > -- Janet R. , MA Blog: http://garnetshealthnotes.blogspot.com List owner http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urine_therapy http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Pyrroluria http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_4_Pets http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Any_Other_Dose_LDN http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Thank Goodness, on them being too big, another useless worry put down for a nap, thanks a million, FWIW Department, I got a nice kick in the pants from putting in five drops of peroxide, food grade in my iodine cocktail, pretty kewl. me head feels clean and clear, so nice, perhaps dmso helps it cross the BBB, and the really kewl part is, I have four million six hundred thousand drops left in my gallon, LOL's, if five drops feels this nice and clean, wonder what twenty five drops will be like, and if Lyn' formula works, I won't stink, and the girls will like me more, yahoo, david lubbock tx. > ** > > > Viruses and bacteria are too large for DMSO to transport so no worries > there. > > Garnet > > > > > In my tiny mind, there has always been some trepidation with using dmso, > > suppose for example, we happen to have a meningitis pathogen, > viral/bacteria > > floating around in our blood, at that point, no fear, as it has not > reached > > the spinal fluids, our bodies immune system is working overtime, passed > it's > > shift, to isolate it from the spinal fluids, we ingest dmso, it carries > the > > virus/bacteria into the fluid or into our brain, . wahoo, we have a > problem > > houston. God did put the blood brain barrier there for a reason, and > > violating that barrier is of some concern. I personally would not do it > w/o > > a load of iodine in my thyroid/blood to help kill off pathogens. > > With the addition of HP, the possibility of that occurring is less, as > the > > additional oxygen from HP would render the vius/bac less threatening, I > am > > thinking, it just makes sense, to use HP w/ dmso, Lyn, not peer reviewed, > > LOL's, > > We shall call this, " Lyn's Discovery " , dmso/peroxide/iodine therapy a > cure > > all, > > The greatest snake oil, ever, goodbye cancer, parasites, brain fog, Add > in > > LDN, and you are bullet proof, david lubbock tx. > > > > > > > >> Hydrogen Peroxide and DMSO Miracle Products< > http://yourhealth-tonir.blogspot.com/2007/11/hydrogen-peroxide-and-dmso-miracle.\ html > > > > >> > >> > >> < > http://bp2.blogger.com/_gsMbftNgXM0/Rzxt-Mt45eI/AAAAAAAAAGg/HcAsJJqO2eE/s1600-h/\ TRIP+W.+BILL+AND+JULIE+158.jpg > > > >> Did you know that cancer cannot survive in oxygen? > >> > >> Hydrogen peroxide and DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) help cure herpes, > >> arthritis, cancer, MS and other virus-type diseases. These two products > >> effectively flood your body with oxygen. According to Dr. Otto Walberg > >> (Nobel Prize winner), cancer and all viruses cannot live in an oxygen > rich > >> environment. When your body has little oxygen it's pH is acidic, > flooding > >> your body with oxygen changes your body pH to alkaline. In return, your > >> energy is boosted and cancer and viruses instantly die. > >> > >> So, why haven't we heard of this before? They are extremely inexpensive > and > >> unpatentable. Which means no one will spend serious money for research > on > >> the effects of these products. The pharmaceutical industry does not want > >> these products on the market and will suppress information about them. > >> Unfortunately, the FDA will not allow this treatment because it is not a > >> patentable drug. This is not done to protect the public, but to protect > >> their profits at our expense. > >> > >> There are so many benefits from these two products, PLEASE go to the > >> Internet and search for DMSO or hydogen peroxide and read about their > >> benefits. Now remember, the pharmaceutical industry is doing everything > in > >> their power to suppress this information, so they have set up a host of > >> websites that are very negative about these two products. I'll tell you > >> what, if I had cancer, there is no way that I would subject my body to > >> chemotherapy. There is a clinic in Mexico with a very high success rate > from > >> this therapy for cancer, Dr. Kurt W. Donsbach in rio Beach, Mexico > (link > >> below). david lubbock tx. > >> > >> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Mara Miles<roundaboutfarm@... > >wrote: > >> > >>> ** > >>> > >>> > >>> Any chemists here available to comment on whether this forms a > >>> harmful chemical compound? If not, this is a brilliant solution! > >>> > >>> mara > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Wahoo, great news, you may have made a discovery, thinking out of > >>>> the box. > >>>> great going Lyn. Watt was the mix you used, one part HP, two parts > >>>> dmso? > >>>> ????????? > >>>> As ernie ford would say, bless your pea picking heart, david > >>>> lubbock tx. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> ** > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I don't know why I did not even once think of trying this until this > >>>>> morning. But peroxide takes that smell right out of DMSO. I > >>>>> dropped some in > >>>>> my stinky shot glass this morning and smelled it and it seemed to > >>>>> dim. So I > >>>>> left it sit and went back to it and the smell was GONE. I happily > >>>>> took my > >>>>> dose this morning and no smell and no taste. Just water! > >>>>> Amazing!!! As for > >>>>> what chemical compound is created when the two are combined, I > >>>>> have no clue. > >>>>> I will just keep doing it and see if I have the same results that > >>>>> I was > >>>>> getting before. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 *Hello-\\ I have heard that as DMSO penetrates our largest organ - skin - that spraying it on one's body will help. Imagine that this is less of an effect than actual ingestion - which goes through the intestine - obviously a better way of assuring absorption throughout the body, esp. the internal organs. BUT if your body reacts to DMSO through B.O and breath it might be viable option for ingestion. You must research this as I am no authority nor am I a Health professional. I have read that you put the DMSO in a spray bottle (here again we come to the plastics problem - sorry I have not done my homework here) - once in a sprayer - you simply spritz it all over you after shower or bath, just after. allow your body to be still in the warm (hopefully warm) room as the DMSO dries into your skin, and then towel dry. The woman whose blog I read this on swears by this particular technique. Again, I have not tried it. Just sharing. One way or another, many of us need to get higher concentrations into our bodies. Good luck, MB * On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:39 PM, RoseOttoGroups wrote: > ** > > > It's too bad the urea/dmso didn't work for you--wonder what it is about > your constitution. Hmmmm. No one in my sphere notices dmso odor and I > can, thankfully, use it generously with the urea and cause no offense. > > Of course, Garnet wrote about the peroxide chemical formula. She's > pretty much THE local authority on DMSO. You can't do better than Stan > or Herschler for information as they've done the principal > primary and ensuing research. > > Just goes to show, everyBody is different. vive la! > > Saralou > > > > > > .............. I took one dose of my de-scented peroxide and DMSO. I > > took it in the morning after breakfast and as the afternoon progress, > > I was sad to be able to taste it in my mouth. I was hoping it stopped > > at just the bitter taste, b.............said she could smell it when I > > talked to her. So I would say de-scenting it does not matter and I > > won't take a chance at buying another brand from Stanley 's site > > or anywhere else because it will probably just do the same thing. > > > > --- Re: DMSO smell fix > > Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:34:44 -0500 > > > > > > > > I believe that *what you made was water and MSM*. I have actually long > > pointed out to people that ask about mixing the two, the below: > > > > H2O2 is an oxidzing agent, that is it donates an atom of oxygen and is > > highly reactive so very happy and active in donating O. > > > > DMSO is an antioxidant, that is it readily accepts the O that H2O2 is > > actively donating. > > > > H2O2 + CH3(2)SO (DMSO) --> H2O + CH3(2)SO2 (MSM) > > > > The reason there was no smell would be, if I am correct in my chemistry, > > that MSM does not smell. Although it generally tastes slightly bitter > > when I put my tablespoon or two in a 1/4 c of distilled water to shoot > it. > > > > You may have not made much MSM, or enough to taste bitter. > > > > Garnet > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why I did not even once think of trying this until this > > > morning. But peroxide takes that smell right out of DMSO. I dropped > > > some in my stinky shot glass this morning and smelled it and it seemed > > > to dim. So I left it sit and went back to it and the smell was GONE. I > > > happily took my dose this morning and no smell and no taste. Just > > > water! Amazing!!! As for what chemical compound is created when the > > > two are combined, I have no clue. ........ > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Here is my initial thought -- whether you ingest it orally or transdermally the body is still going to convert it at some point to Dimethyl Sulfide, the garlic smell. Only a small percent converts to DMS, 4% maybe, but that is all it takes to create the garlic odor or taste in your mouth. Depends also on how much DMSO you are using, topically or orally. I know when I give it orally to a dog or a horse, in teaspoon or tablespoon amounts the odor is quite strong in the barn or house. It is less so when I use it topically in an animal. Just going back to memory here to see if I can detect a useful experience. As when I use it topically it is locally and not all over, so not that much is absorbed. One possibility is that transdermally it is going to tissues and being utilized to a greater extent and orally more of it is being metabolized before going out the tissues and where it is utilized and not metabolized to DMS and MSM. Would love to know more about the topical route, who has tried it, now much they are able to absorb and if it really does not result in the garlic odor. Also keep in mind that what ever soap you are using in the shower may leave a residual on the skin and that DMSO would carry any components under 1,000 Daltons. Care is in order as to what is in the soap you are using. Hopefully some will try this out and report back! Janet / Garnet List Owner > *Hello-\\ > I have heard that as DMSO penetrates our largest organ - skin - that > spraying it on one's body will help. > Imagine that this is less of an effect than actual ingestion - which goes > through the intestine - obviously a better way of assuring absorption > throughout the body, esp. the internal organs. > BUT if your body reacts to DMSO through B.O and breath it might be viable > option for ingestion. > You must research this as I am no authority nor am I a Health professional. > I have read that you put the DMSO in a spray bottle (here again we come to > the plastics problem - sorry I have not done my homework here) - once in a > sprayer - you simply spritz it all over you after shower or bath, just > after. allow your body to be still in the warm (hopefully warm) room as the > DMSO dries into your skin, and then towel dry. > The woman whose blog I read this on swears by this particular technique. > Again, I have not tried it. Just sharing. > One way or another, many of us need to get higher concentrations into our > bodies. > Good luck, MB > * > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:39 PM, RoseOttoGroupswrote: > >> ** >> >> >> It's too bad the urea/dmso didn't work for you--wonder what it is about >> your constitution. Hmmmm. No one in my sphere notices dmso odor and I >> can, thankfully, use it generously with the urea and cause no offense. >> >> Of course, Garnet wrote about the peroxide chemical formula. She's >> pretty much THE local authority on DMSO. You can't do better than Stan >> or Herschler for information as they've done the principal >> primary and ensuing research. >> >> Just goes to show, everyBody is different. vive la! >> >> Saralou >> >> >>> .............. I took one dose of my de-scented peroxide and DMSO. I >>> took it in the morning after breakfast and as the afternoon progress, >>> I was sad to be able to taste it in my mouth. I was hoping it stopped >>> at just the bitter taste, b.............said she could smell it when I >>> talked to her. So I would say de-scenting it does not matter and I >>> won't take a chance at buying another brand from Stanley 's site >>> or anywhere else because it will probably just do the same thing. >>> >>> --- Re: DMSO smell fix >>> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:34:44 -0500 >>> >>> >>> >>> I believe that *what you made was water and MSM*. I have actually long >>> pointed out to people that ask about mixing the two, the below: >>> >>> H2O2 is an oxidzing agent, that is it donates an atom of oxygen and is >>> highly reactive so very happy and active in donating O. >>> >>> DMSO is an antioxidant, that is it readily accepts the O that H2O2 is >>> actively donating. >>> >>> H2O2 + CH3(2)SO (DMSO) --> H2O + CH3(2)SO2 (MSM) >>> >>> The reason there was no smell would be, if I am correct in my chemistry, >>> that MSM does not smell. Although it generally tastes slightly bitter >>> when I put my tablespoon or two in a 1/4 c of distilled water to shoot >> it. >>> You may have not made much MSM, or enough to taste bitter. >>> >>> Garnet >>> >>> >>>> I don't know why I did not even once think of trying this until this >>>> morning. But peroxide takes that smell right out of DMSO. I dropped >>>> some in my stinky shot glass this morning and smelled it and it seemed >>>> to dim. So I left it sit and went back to it and the smell was GONE. I >>>> happily took my dose this morning and no smell and no taste. Just >>>> water! Amazing!!! As for what chemical compound is created when the >>>> two are combined, I have no clue. ........ >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 _____ Garnet wrote: Would love to know more about the topical route, who has tried it, now much they are able to absorb and if it really does not result in the garlic odor. Hopefully some will try this out and report back! Janet / Garnet List Owner Hi, Garnet: In my experience with DMSO, for some twenty years now, there is still a residual noxious smell when used transdermally. However, it does not seem to last as long as when the DMSO is taken internally, where I have found that it generally takes two days to rid oneself of the smell. Taffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 > Garnet wrote: > > Would love to know more about the topical route, who has tried it, now > much they > are able to absorb and if it really does not result in the garlic > odor. > > Hopefully some will try this out and report back! I am using a compounded DMSO cream with magnesium and Emu oil. Both my husband and I use it in localized areas (i.e. not all over the body at one time). I don't notice the smell, but do detect a very slight taste of it in my mouth. I have also used it transdermally diluted with water. There seems to me more of a skin reaction, but again not much of an odor and only a slight taste. However when I use a DMSO, CS nasel spray the taste is quite strong--which makes sense as it does tend to drip down the back of my throat. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 > ** > > Would love to know more about the topical route, who has tried it, now > much they > are able to absorb and if it really does not result in the garlic odor. > I used one part 70/30 DMSO and two parts colloidal silver in a solution that I sprayed on my face, back, and chest to help counter acne. The ratios are only an approximation, as I would pour some DMSO into the spray bottle, then add the CS. I never did get the bad taste in my mouth, but for a while after applying it, it would produce an uncomfortable itching sensation. It didn't take long to get some unsolicited feedback from my co-workers that I stank! I couldn't smell it on me or in my clothes, but more than one person told me about it - and you know it must be bad for someone to tell you something like this. So, I went back to just the CS spray without the DMSO and all is well. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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