Re: question about time

November 29, 2005

Hi

Have you given up coffee, tea, cola and chocolate? They all can contribute to wakefulness. Darn it!

in Oz

[low dose naltrexone] Re: question about time

I've had interrupted sleeping pattern almost every night since starting LDN 2.5 months ago. had mentioned that it may help to take LDN at the exact time every night. This still hasn't helped me with sleep. I had vivid dreams the first month but that subsided. I'm reluctant to take any sleeping aid but it sure is tempting.....>> , I was experiencing a little insomnia before starting LDN. The > second night I took LDN, I actually felt a flutter in my forehead! For > about three weeks afterwards, I had vivid dreams and would wake up several > times a night. The last part went on for about six weeks. I ended up > taking a quarter of an Ambien. I'm not sure my sleep has ever returned to > normal, though it's much better than that. I still take the Ambien. I have > tried EVERYTHING: valerien, melatonin, tapes, etc. I'm sure menopause > doesn't help!> > >

November 29, 2005

hi Eliza I have just joined the group I saw your post about pain I started on LDN last year I was taking 8/10 400mg Ibuprofen a day which was just dulling the pain within 2 weeks I had stopped I now only take 1 Ibuprofen at bad times of the month

as for time I take 3mg and find 10pm to 10.30pm I was taking at 9pm but was having sleep problems

I think taking it before bed lets me sleep and wake next morning about 7am were as if I take it at 9pm then go to bed about 10.30 pm I wake about 2am

lyn

November 29, 2005

>

> Okay I am confused. I thought the time to take it was between 9pm and

> 3am? Is it suppose to be between 12 and 2am

>

> Confused in Canada

>

> >

> > Since, according to Bilhari, the human body creates the greatest

> amount of endorphins between about midnight and 2.00am, that's the time

> to take LDN to boost the body's own chemical pain and " feel-good "

> system. Maybe you are just missing the peak time by taking it too

> late by an hour or two????

> >

>

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From the LDN website Further Q & A page.

Ouestion: I have to work on a night shift, for example from midnight to 8a.m.,

at what time should I take my LDN?

Answer: Continue to take LDN as recommended above; i.e., between 9pm and 3am.

This relates to the fact that the endorphins for each day are always produced in

the pre-dawn hours, regardless of the hours when one is awake or sleeping.

November 29, 2005

, are you still taking melatonin or have you tapered off?

I'm going to continue LDN even if my sleeping doesn't get better.

I'm not working and so I have the opportunity to rest during the day.

> >

> > I've had interrupted sleeping pattern almost every night since

> > starting LDN 2.5 months ago. had mentioned that it may

help

> > to take LDN at the exact time every night. This still hasn't

helped

> > me with sleep. I had vivid dreams the first month but that

> > subsided. I'm reluctant to take any sleeping aid but it sure is

> > tempting.....

> >

> =====

>

> I had to take as much as 15mg of melatonin 30 minutes before I

took my LDN for the first 6 months on LDN treatment. Before LDN I

suffered extreme insomnia for many years but after 6 months on LDN &

the melatonin my sleep is now very regulated and has stayed

regulated for 2 years. I started on 4.5mg LDN and have continued to

stick with that dose.

>

November 29, 2005

- The simple answer is " no " however, I only drink 1 cup of

coffee / day and if I drink tea, it's usually herbal, rarely have a

soda drink and as for chocolate.....70% dark (Lindt) chocolate is my

favourite.....8-)

My model is " everything in moderation " and I've been learning to pay

attention to my body & food intake in general.

works for me so far...just a little bit of challenge with the sleep

pattern. I'll try to cut out these elements for a week and see if

there's a difference.

thank you,

> >

> > , I was experiencing a little insomnia before starting

LDN.

> The

> > second night I took LDN, I actually felt a flutter in my

> forehead! For

> > about three weeks afterwards, I had vivid dreams and would

wake up

> several

> > times a night. The last part went on for about six weeks. I

> ended up

> > taking a quarter of an Ambien. I'm not sure my sleep has ever

> returned to

> > normal, though it's much better than that. I still take the

> Ambien. I have

> > tried EVERYTHING: valerien, melatonin, tapes, etc. I'm sure

> menopause

> > doesn't help!

> >

>

November 29, 2005

, I will take your advice and take it at that time tonight and see how I feel tomorrow. Bren <TwisterAlley2@...> wrote: > >> > Hello Everyone,> > > > I normally take my LDN at 1:30am every morning and I feel great, when I take it at 2:30am I feel fatigue the next day, I was wondering why I feel like that when I take it at 2:30 and not when I take it at

1:30..Thanks for any advice in advance!!> > > > ======,You need to start going to bed by 10pm or 11pm...staying up to the wee hours of the morning contributes to fatigue...I should know as before LDN I suffered severe insomnia for many years...LDN corrected that insomnia about 6 months into the treatment. I take my LDN at 9pm and I struggle to stay awake till 10:30pm. try taking your LDN at 9:30pm or 10:pm and don't stay up any later than midnight. You do not have to go to bed when you take your LDN but start taking your LDN around 9:30pm or 10pm.

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November 29, 2005

Sorry Phil, can't think of anyone using LDN at the moment in Tassie but

will keep working on it.

wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> Im in Tassie any assistance appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Phil

>

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November 30, 2005

I'm reluctant also to take a sleep aid! I understand how you feel.

Take Care

>

> I've had interrupted sleeping pattern almost every night since

> starting LDN 2.5 months ago.

November 30, 2005

Thanks Aletha! It just confuses me when people talk about different

time periods. I would have a problem staying up to take it at midnight.

Take Care

>

> It might be that some people do best at different times. It does not

seem

> to make a difference for my husband anywhere between 9pm to 1am.

November 30, 2005

Thanks !

:

> >

> > Okay I am confused. I thought the time to take it was between

9pm and

> > 3am? Is it suppose to be between 12 and 2am

> >

> > Confused in Canada

> >

> > >

> > > Since, according to Bilhari, the human body creates the

greatest

> > amount of endorphins between about midnight and 2.00am, that's

the time

> > to take LDN to boost the body's own chemical pain and " feel-good "

> > system. Maybe you are just missing the peak time by taking it

too

> > late by an hour or two????

> > >

> >

> ============

>

> From the LDN website Further Q & A page.

>

> Ouestion: I have to work on a night shift, for example from

midnight to 8a.m., at what time should I take my LDN?

>

> Answer: Continue to take LDN as recommended above; i.e., between

9pm and 3am. This relates to the fact that the endorphins for each

day are always produced in the pre-dawn hours, regardless of the

hours when one is awake or sleeping.

>

January 10, 2007

is big on time too. He used to wear a watch all the time. He had to

stop wearing it to school cause he would tap it on the desk. He always

wants to know what time we are going to do something. And he definitly does

the " it is only 9:28 so it is not time to go to bed yet. " or " Can I go to

bed at 9:35 ? " In school he also does the how long till we do something?

> hi everyone!

> i have been wondering something. is anyone eles's kid obsessed about

> time?

> nicholas my 6 yr old that has AS, is obsessed. big time. we bought

> him a watch (thomas the train of course) and he is contantly

> checking the time, asking my hubby and i what time will we be

> picking him up, what time do we get out of work ect ect. we also got

> a note home from the teacher that said nicholas is disruptive in

> class becouse he is so worried about time. example she gave was she

> told nicholas the class could go outside in about 5 minutes, then it

> took 2 minutes to explain to nicholas what time that would be, then

> he got upset when it became that time and they weren't going out.

> well first of all, nicholas doesn't understand what " about 5

> minutes " means. it either is 5 minutes or its not. but he does

> things like when i tell him to go get ready for bed cause its 9

> oclock, he says " no its not, its only 857 " and then stands in front

> of the clock till it turns 9 and then he says " ok mommmy, its 900

> now, i'm getting ready for bed "

> it drives me crazy sometimes but i really don't think he is trying

> to be bratty or anything.

> i was just wondering if any one elses kid does this.

> thank you for letting me share

> hugs,

> karin

January 10, 2007

Hello,

I have a 13 1/2 yo son, and have had the same time issues. I think it's and

ocd thing, but also an AS thing. He deals in specifics, not generalities.

I could get away with telling him " we're going in 5 minutes " before he could

tell time, but as he got older, he held me to the specific time. If I told

him he had to go to bed at 9:00, and the TV show he was watching was over at

8:55 and the last 5 minutes were commercials, he would not budge until 9:00.

I learned to say " when this show is over " instead. He gets upset with me

when I tell him we're leaving now, and then I stop to talk with someone.

You have to learn to anticipate. And of course, he has to learn to be

patient (yeah, right). On the other hand, there are benefits: there's

nothing wrong with being prompt.

Good luck,

Helen

-- Re: ( ) question about time

Yes Karin, my 7 year old son (also ) is a time obsessed boy too. His

teacher says he reminds her when its a few minute before going to music

lunch, recess, etc. If the class runs even one minute late it upsets him.

This ended up becoming so disruptive that she took her daily schedule with

times off her wall! I won't let him wear a watch anymore because of this! I

don't think it's a behavioral issue for mine either, it almost makes me

think it's an obsessive compulsive disorder type thing.

Liz

luvablekarinva <luvablekarinva@...> wrote:

hi everyone!

i have been wondering something. is anyone eles's kid obsessed about

time?

nicholas my 6 yr old that has AS, is obsessed. big time. we bought

him a watch (thomas the train of course) and he is contantly

checking the time, asking my hubby and i what time will we be

picking him up, what time do we get out of work ect ect. we also got

a note home from the teacher that said nicholas is disruptive in

class becouse he is so worried about time. example she gave was she

told nicholas the class could go outside in about 5 minutes, then it

took 2 minutes to explain to nicholas what time that would be, then

he got upset when it became that time and they weren't going out.

well first of all, nicholas doesn't understand what " about 5

minutes " means. it either is 5 minutes or its not. but he does

things like when i tell him to go get ready for bed cause its 9

oclock, he says " no its not, its only 857 " and then stands in front

of the clock till it turns 9 and then he says " ok mommmy, its 900

now, i'm getting ready for bed "

it drives me crazy sometimes but i really don't think he is trying

to be bratty or anything.

i was just wondering if any one elses kid does this.

thank you for letting me share

hugs,

karin

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January 11, 2007

No the poor little guy isn't trying to be bratty. He just wants the

comforts of knowing what to expect. (IMO)

My son has to know " Where are we going " and " when till we get

there? " every time we drive. He asks in that order. If he

doesn't,,,, he must be sick... then again, he probably would still

say that.

For the teacher to use terms like " disruptive " drives me nuts. She

is being disruptive by saying ABOUT 5 minutes, and not sticking to

it (I am sure she doesn't or he would not have that issue! "

Some people just don't get it.,

Do what you say, say what you mean!~

*smiles*

B

>

> hi everyone!

> i have been wondering something. is anyone eles's kid obsessed

about

> time?

> nicholas my 6 yr old that has AS, is obsessed. big time. we bought

> him a watch (thomas the train of course) and he is contantly

> checking the time, asking my hubby and i what time will we be

> picking him up, what time do we get out of work ect ect. we also

got

> a note home from the teacher that said nicholas is disruptive in

> class becouse he is so worried about time. example she gave was

she

> told nicholas the class could go outside in about 5 minutes, then

it

> took 2 minutes to explain to nicholas what time that would be,

then

> he got upset when it became that time and they weren't going out.

> well first of all, nicholas doesn't understand what " about 5

> minutes " means. it either is 5 minutes or its not. but he does

> things like when i tell him to go get ready for bed cause its 9

> oclock, he says " no its not, its only 857 " and then stands in

front

> of the clock till it turns 9 and then he says " ok mommmy, its 900

> now, i'm getting ready for bed "

> it drives me crazy sometimes but i really don't think he is trying

> to be bratty or anything.

> i was just wondering if any one elses kid does this.

> thank you for letting me share

> hugs,

> karin

>

January 13, 2007

Yes, my older son is like this and has been since he was very young. Never

say it is 9:00 if it is 8:59. Pam

January 22, 2007

I hate that, I always have to remind myself I can't say " in a minute " because he

starts counting. And I especially have to remember not to say " in a second " !

Helen Schussler <hls6132003@...> wrote: Hello,