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> From: " Valarie " val@...

> Date: Tue May 16, 2006 6:27pm(PDT)

> Subject: Re: Thought provoking info on P!

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> If I didn't have a uterus, I wouldn't touch the nasty stuff (P).

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> Val

>

I have been having some radical thinking here with my last P cycle....

just how insane is it and what are the long term dangers of having your

uterus removed so you don't have to bother with the misery of the P? I

am considering this an option to research.

Eileen

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Val -- do you mean that vaginal P probably doesn't protect the

breasts? I was wondering the same thing myself. Why would you want

to go back to 50mg of P for 10 days every 3 months when you tried

that previously and got a 13 stripe?? I think you should stick to

your present plan!

>

> I'm now using 50 mg vaginal P for 10 days a month. That produces

a full 5 -

> 7 day bleed. I need to get another ultrasound as its been over a

year. If

> that is okay, I'm thinking seriously of moving back to every three

months of

> 50 mg for 10 days.

>

> Every time I use the P, I get horribly sore breasts. Something is

telling

> me that the vaginal progesterone may be having the same breast

effect as the

> progestins in WHI.

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> Val

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I'm not convinced that P in any form protects the breasts. We know that there is a higher incidence of BC with progestins. What we don't know is what natural P does. Maybe it has the same effect? Mine get brutally sore by Day 5 of 10 days of vaginal P. Surely that is not good. Again, if I didn't have a uterus, I wouldn't touch the nasty stuff.

Lee's (unproven) work has caused serious harm to unsuspecting women.

Five days was not enough vaginal P and did not produce a full bleed. Ten days does. Therefore, ten days every three months should work.

Val

-----Original Message-----From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of Val -- do you mean that vaginal P probably doesn't protect the breasts? I was wondering the same thing myself. Why would you want to go back to 50mg of P for 10 days every 3 months when you tried that previously and got a 13 stripe?? I think you should stick to your present plan! >> I'm now using 50 mg vaginal P for 10 days a month. That produces a full 5 -> 7 day bleed. I need to get another ultrasound as its been over a year. If> that is okay, I'm thinking seriously of moving back to every three months of> 50 mg for 10 days.> > Every time I use the P, I get horribly sore breasts. Something is telling> me that the vaginal progesterone may be having the same breast effect as the> progestins in WHI.

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I'm not convinced that P in any form protects the breasts. We know that there is a higher incidence of BC with progestins. What we don't know is what natural P does. Maybe it has the same effect? Mine get brutally sore by Day 5 of 10 days of vaginal P. Surely that is not good. Again, if I didn't have a uterus, I wouldn't touch the nasty stuff.

Lee's (unproven) work has caused serious harm to unsuspecting women.

Five days was not enough vaginal P and did not produce a full bleed. Ten days does. Therefore, ten days every three months should work.

Val

-----Original Message-----From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]On Behalf Of Val -- do you mean that vaginal P probably doesn't protect the breasts? I was wondering the same thing myself. Why would you want to go back to 50mg of P for 10 days every 3 months when you tried that previously and got a 13 stripe?? I think you should stick to your present plan! >> I'm now using 50 mg vaginal P for 10 days a month. That produces a full 5 -> 7 day bleed. I need to get another ultrasound as its been over a year. If> that is okay, I'm thinking seriously of moving back to every three months of> 50 mg for 10 days.> > Every time I use the P, I get horribly sore breasts. Something is telling> me that the vaginal progesterone may be having the same breast effect as the> progestins in WHI.

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Didn't 10 days every 3 months for you cause hyperplasia?

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> > I'm now using 50 mg vaginal P for 10 days a month. That

produces

> a full 5 -

> > 7 day bleed. I need to get another ultrasound as its been

over a

> year. If

> > that is okay, I'm thinking seriously of moving back to every

three

> months of

> > 50 mg for 10 days.

> >

> > Every time I use the P, I get horribly sore breasts.

Something is

> telling

> > me that the vaginal progesterone may be having the same breast

> effect as the

> > progestins in WHI.

>

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So there is NOTHING to protect the breasts?

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> I'm not convinced that P in any form protects the breasts. We know

that

> there is a higher incidence of BC with progestins.

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Don't be paranoid yet. If you have no bleeding and you are keeping an eye on your thickness of your uterus, you will be fine. Relax and enjoy!!!

Liz

Well keep me posted. Right now I'm on my 4th day straight of no P and so far, no bleeding. I'm so paranoid about not using P. But I want to get to using it very rarely!

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Well I hate to say it, but I'm going back to being snoozy all day

again. So get this, I " snuck " in a capsule yesterday morning. I

wake up this morning and HELLO -- blood is back. Of course, I

haven't taken my P all week. I just want to be able to go back to

cycling again. I want to take P for least amount of time during the

month - 10 days! You think I'm asking for trouble?

> Well stranger things have happened. But since I've stopped

taking

> DHEA, I'm no longer bleeding. I think that was the cause!

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