Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Here's some info you can look at. Also Google it *http://tinyurl.com/3hudnpn* * * ** * http://www.dmso.org/articles/information/szmant.html * Smitty ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:36 AM, clambrianou1 wrote: > ** > > > Hi I am new on here,Can some one tell me the ups and downs of Liquid > DMSO,and in what forms it can be taken or used?,To be a teacher is a gift! > Teach me and others who have no knowledge of the facts and pitfalls.kind > regards.Chris. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Chris: Why should we? It would appear that you have not invested any time in the project yourself. Students who wish all knowledge to be poured into their ear with a funnel are a very bad risk of a teacher's time. If you have no " skin in the game " you do not have anything to lose and can walk away and find some other way to amuse yourself. You have participants in this group that could very well be earning $100 t0 $500 an hour and their time should not be wasted until you can demonstrate that you are a decent investment of this time. Why don't you go out and google DMSO, invest 50 to 100 hours and then come back and ask an informed question that might indicate that you are not a waste of everyone's time. Harvey in Houston clambrianou1 wrote: > > Hi I am new on here,Can some one tell me the ups and downs of Liquid > DMSO,and in what forms it can be taken or used?,To be a teacher is a > gift! Teach me and others who have no knowledge of the facts and > pitfalls.kind regards.Chris. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 I agree - you gotta do the research yourself. It's part of becoming a sensible person. If you are here I might wager that you are interested in going beyond allopathy. Going there DEMANDS that you walk the walk before you talk the talk. It's rather like the Blues. Anybody can tell you anything - why should you believe it? Why? You cannot. You have to do enough research and spend enough hours to figure out who's fulla s... and who is not. You just HAVE to do it. It's also true that these sites are here primarily to SHARE info in order to help to navigate uncharted waters. Come back and ask a better question. I say this With all respect and in consideration of your ignorance. > Chris: > > Why should we? It would appear that you have not invested any time in > the project yourself. Students who wish all knowledge to be poured into > their ear with a funnel are a very bad risk of a teacher's time. If you > have no " skin in the game " you do not have anything to lose and can walk > away and find some other way to amuse yourself. > > You have participants in this group that could very well be earning $100 > t0 $500 an hour and their time should not be wasted until you can > demonstrate that you are a decent investment of this time. > > Why don't you go out and google DMSO, invest 50 to 100 hours and then > come back and ask an informed question that might indicate that you are > not a waste of everyone's time. > > Harvey in Houston > > clambrianou1 wrote: > > > > Hi I am new on here,Can some one tell me the ups and downs of Liquid > > DMSO,and in what forms it can be taken or used?,To be a teacher is a > > gift! Teach me and others who have no knowledge of the facts and > > pitfalls.kind regards.Chris. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Home Page: > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Books: > DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton > MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, NDYahoo! > Groups Links > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 My rebuttal to my post below: OK now what if this person is ignorant bec. they are too sick to do their own homework? Humility, grace and compassion settled in on me and I realized that we must take this into account. So apologies for sounding harsh. Let us know a bit more about why you found this site. Bel. me there are a whole bunch of compassionate folk here abouts - but take into account that very many of us are dealing with serious health issues and affording time is affording energy and sometimes work hrs. which could be limited to begin with, due to illness. > > > > > > Hi I am new on here,Can some one tell me the ups and downs of Liquid > > > DMSO,and in what forms it can be taken or used?,To be a teacher is a > > > gift! Teach me and others who have no knowledge of the facts and > > > pitfalls.kind regards.Chris. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > List Home Page: > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > > Books: > > DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton > > MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, NDYahoo! > > Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 If you have the time and the energy there is much information in the list archives, links and files section. It does not sound like you even bothered to give a cursory glance to the files, where you would find this information. If you need specifics and do not have the time or energy please find a consultant and pay them for their time. If you do not have money, time or energy, then you must narrow your questions. Your post sounds as if you feel entitled to impose on the time and goodwill of others. Most people do not respond well to this. We have all been there, sick, with no time, no energy and no money, so we are not with out compassion, but we are realists. Garnet, List Owner Holistic Health Consultant ------ Janet R. , MA Blog: http://garnetshealthnotes.blogspot.com List owner http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urine_therapy http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Pyrroluria http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_4_Pets http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > Hi I am new on here,Can some one tell me > the ups and downs of Liquid DMSO,and in > what forms it can be taken or used?,To > be a teacher is a gift! Teach me and > others who have no knowledge of the > facts and pitfalls.kind regards.Chris. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 Well put Garnet. I understand why some members of the group were bothered by the tone of Chris' request. However, as a relative newbie myself, I also appreciate that coming to this list, now that it has been established for such a long time, is a very steep learning curve. It's one of the best groups I belong to and I have found the members to be both supportive and helpful. When I have some time, I'll try to write a synopsis of DMSO for newcomers (that I'll submit privately to Garnet for accuracy checks) - I hope it could make everything a bit less daunting. > > Hi I am new on here,Can some one tell me > > the ups and downs of Liquid DMSO,and in > > what forms it can be taken or used?,To > > be a teacher is a gift! Teach me and > > others who have no knowledge of the > > facts and pitfalls.kind regards.Chris. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 I was new here not long ago myself. The best way to fit in is to go look at the FILES section and see what they found most valuable. You can ask questions from there. That's as close to cliffnotes as we've got. We can help but you have to teach yourself. --tls To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/ Re: THE FACTS?. > > > > Hi I am new on here,Can some one tell me the ups and downs of Liquid DMSO,and in > > what forms it can be taken or used?, To be a teacher is a gift! Teach me and > > others who have no knowledge of the facts and pitfalls.kind regards. Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 I see said the blind man 1,Whilst i appreciate the hard work and endever you have put into your research,i was hoping that someone might shine a light for those of us who are stumbling around in the dark leading from one maze into another,I found your match held very little light as to be almost dim such was its own self importance, But never the less Bless you.kind regards.chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 Why should I? You are appearing to be a parasite and wasting the groups time. H M. Britton wrote: > > I agree - you gotta do the research yourself. It's part of becoming a > sensible person. If you are here I might wager that you are interested in > going beyond allopathy. Going there DEMANDS that you walk the walk before > you talk the talk. It's rather like the Blues. > Anybody can tell you anything - why should you believe it? > Why? You cannot. > You have to do enough research and spend enough hours to figure out who's > fulla s... and who is not. > You just HAVE to do it. > It's also true that these sites are here primarily to SHARE info in > order to > help to navigate uncharted waters. > Come back and ask a better question. I say this > With all respect and in consideration of your ignorance. > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Harvey Metzler <hpm102@... > <mailto:hpm102%40hal-pc.org>> wrote: > > > Chris: > > > > Why should we? It would appear that you have not invested any time in > > the project yourself. Students who wish all knowledge to be poured into > > their ear with a funnel are a very bad risk of a teacher's time. If you > > have no " skin in the game " you do not have anything to lose and can walk > > away and find some other way to amuse yourself. > > > > You have participants in this group that could very well be earning $100 > > t0 $500 an hour and their time should not be wasted until you can > > demonstrate that you are a decent investment of this time. > > > > Why don't you go out and google DMSO, invest 50 to 100 hours and then > > come back and ask an informed question that might indicate that you are > > not a waste of everyone's time. > > > > Harvey in Houston > > > > clambrianou1 wrote: > > > > > > Hi I am new on here,Can some one tell me the ups and downs of Liquid > > > DMSO,and in what forms it can be taken or used?,To be a teacher is a > > > gift! Teach me and others who have no knowledge of the facts and > > > pitfalls.kind regards.Chris. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > List Home Page: > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > > Books: > > DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton > > MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, > NDYahoo! > > Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 Amen Harvey! Seriously... >To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO >Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:12 AM >Subject: Re: THE FACTS?. > >Why should I? > >You are appearing to be a parasite and wasting the groups time. > >H > >M. Britton wrote: >> >> I agree - you gotta do the research yourself. It's part of becoming a >> sensible person. If you are here I might wager that you are interested in >> going beyond allopathy. Going there DEMANDS that you walk the walk before >> you talk the talk. It's rather like the Blues. >> Anybody can tell you anything - why should you believe it? >> Why? You cannot. >> You have to do enough research and spend enough hours to figure out who's >> fulla s... and who is not. >> You just HAVE to do it. >> It's also true that these sites are here primarily to SHARE info in >> order to >> help to navigate uncharted waters. >> Come back and ask a better question. I say this >> With all respect and in consideration of your ignorance. >> >> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Harvey Metzler <hpm102@... >> <mailto:hpm102%40hal-pc.org>> wrote: >> >> > Chris: >> > >> > Why should we? It would appear that you have not invested any time in >> > the project yourself. Students who wish all knowledge to be poured into >> > their ear with a funnel are a very bad risk of a teacher's time. If you >> > have no " skin in the game " you do not have anything to lose and can walk >> > away and find some other way to amuse yourself. >> > >> > You have participants in this group that could very well be earning $100 >> > t0 $500 an hour and their time should not be wasted until you can >> > demonstrate that you are a decent investment of this time. >> > >> > Why don't you go out and google DMSO, invest 50 to 100 hours and then >> > come back and ask an informed question that might indicate that you are >> > not a waste of everyone's time. >> > >> > Harvey in Houston >> > >> > clambrianou1 wrote: >> > > >> > > Hi I am new on here,Can some one tell me the ups and downs of Liquid >> > > DMSO,and in what forms it can be taken or used?,To be a teacher is a >> > > gift! Teach me and others who have no knowledge of the facts and >> > > pitfalls.kind regards.Chris. >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > List Home Page: >> > >> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO >> > >> > Books: >> > DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton >> > MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, >> NDYahoo! >> > Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 Garnet: You do not seem to like the approach of: " Hey dude, I have an empty head: You gotta funnel and a week of time? " I had a prof one time (best of the best). When he came to class, his first question was, " Gentlemen, do you have questions from the assignment? " . If there were none, his next comment was, " Gentlemen, I am very happy at your full understanding of the subject matter. Please take out a sheet of paper so that I can make very sure that you fully understood the material. " We then had a 15 minute " shotgun quiz " on the subject matter. This happened twice and we all started coming to class prepared, with questions which led him straight into the lecture. This prof was high ranking retired military and he scared you. When you went to his office and he found that you really wanted to learn, he gave of his time extravagantly to make sure you did learn. If we came to his class with " Skin in the Game " , we learned. If you do not have skin in the game, you are not prepared to learn. Newbies should have to read and pass a test on the basic subject matter of any group for their right of passage but this takes a lot of time for the group moderator who is usually a very busy person. Harvey in Houston Garnet wrote: > If you have the time and the energy > there is much information in the list > archives, links and files section. It > does not sound like you even bothered > to give a cursory glance to the files, > where you would find this information. > > If you need specifics and do not have > the time or energy please find a > consultant and pay them for > their time. > > If you do not have money, time or > energy, then you must narrow your questions. > > Your post sounds as if you feel entitled > to impose > on the time and goodwill of others. Most > people do not respond well to this. > > We have all been there, sick, with no > time, no > energy and no money, so we are not with out > compassion, but we are realists. > > Garnet, List Owner > Holistic Health Consultant > > ------ > > Janet R. , MA > Blog: http://garnetshealthnotes.blogspot.com > > List owner > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urine_therapy > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Pyrroluria > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_4_Pets > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > >> Hi I am new on here,Can some one tell me >> the ups and downs of Liquid DMSO,and in >> what forms it can be taken or used?,To >> be a teacher is a gift! Teach me and >> others who have no knowledge of the >> facts and pitfalls.kind regards.Chris. >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Home Page: > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Books: > DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton > MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, NDYahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 An excellent starting place is the book " DMSO: Nature's healer " Buy the book and read it. It's a real eye opener! Its how I originally got introduced to this amazing liquid! www.lyme-resource.com You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - > THE FACTS?. > > Hi I am new on here,Can some one tell me the ups and downs of > Liquid DMSO,and in what forms it can be taken or used?,To be > a teacher is a gift! Teach me and others who have no > knowledge of the facts and pitfalls.kind regards.Chris. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 Hi Harvey, I used to think you were a bit harsh. Sorry. As an experienced Lymie who had to toil through endless googling and reading groups to help myself, I empowered myself, began to get better, acquired enough knowledge to compassionately volunteer whatever I could to newbies. Now, I find myself writing, after basic info, '(google it!)' I'm getting busy with life and burning out on restating the obvious to each new group of freshmen. Maybe I need an attitude adjustment, but unless a person is completely disabled and spiraling the drain, their own investment in their recovery empowers and encourages them to take responsibility for their recovery; it's a necessary part of the process. I've learned the hard way that some of those who approach with a 'help me, help me, feed me!' attitude sometimes turn out to be 'yeah buts', who really want attention rather than productive directions, and it's incredible how much energy they can steal before a group catches on. We're all in this together and we should pass stuff on and pay it forward, but it's good to encourage people to do their own homework at the onset. Be well, Léna Garnet: You do not seem to like the approach of: " Hey dude, I have an empty head: You gotta funnel and a week of time? " I had a prof one time (best of the best). When he came to class, his first question was, " Gentlemen, do you have questions from the assignment? " . If there were none, his next comment was, " Gentlemen, I am very happy at your full understanding of the subject matter. Please take out a sheet of paper so that I can make very sure that you fully understood the material. " We then had a 15 minute " shotgun quiz " on the subject matter. This happened twice and we all started coming to class prepared, with questions which led him straight into the lecture. This prof was high ranking retired military and he scared you. When you went to his office and he found that you really wanted to learn, he gave of his time extravagantly to make sure you did learn. If we came to his class with " Skin in the Game " , we learned. If you do not have skin in the game, you are not prepared to learn. Newbies should have to read and pass a test on the basic subject matter of any group for their right of passage but this takes a lot of time for the group moderator who is usually a very busy person. Harvey in Houston Garnet wrote: > If you have the time and the energy > there is much information in the list > archives, links and files section. It > does not sound like you even bothered > to give a cursory glance to the files, > where you would find this information. > > If you need specifics and do not have > the time or energy please find a > consultant and pay them for > their time. > > If you do not have money, time or > energy, then you must narrow your questions. > > Your post sounds as if you feel entitled > to impose > on the time and goodwill of others. Most > people do not respond well to this. > > We have all been there, sick, with no > time, no > energy and no money, so we are not with out > compassion, but we are realists. > > Garnet, List Owner > Holistic Health Consultant > > ------ > > Janet R. , MA > Blog: http://garnetshealthnotes.blogspot.com > > List owner > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urine_therapy > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Pyrroluria > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_4_Pets > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > >> Hi I am new on here,Can some one tell me >> the ups and downs of Liquid DMSO,and in >> what forms it can be taken or used?,To >> be a teacher is a gift! Teach me and >> others who have no knowledge of the >> facts and pitfalls.kind regards.Chris. >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Home Page: > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Books: > DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton > MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, > ND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 Guyot: I have owned retail since 1973. Coming from an academic background of spending way too many years in school in classrooms produced an animal that got so used to vacuuming up " just the facts " with no window dressing that it produced the same mind set long after I left academia. I had customers who, outside of my own stores in workshops, would volunteer in " jest " that, " Harvey would give you all the time you needed to learn something " and not one second more. The rapid fire delivery of information that I had developed as a survival tool in college had followed me into the " after life " and some of the smoothness of diplomacy was never learned or honed to the point of my ever being " slick " . This mind set also made me side step time wasters unless they were extremely entertaining in their delivery to the point of being an oddity. There are those who are flim flam men who are so good at it that, even after you spot the scam, you enjoy it as you see imagination and intellect in the delivery. This is rare. Most are just wanting attention as they are joining a group to become a groupy to reinforce their own ego and do not have a scholarly bone in their body. These individuals have to be dealt with harshly as they are parasites and they are stealing time from those that have a lot better things to do. So far, I am not getting old but I am running out of time and I am getting more selective about who I spend this time with. Those that are time wasters are treated much like a stray stick on the track that I kick out of my way each morning to protect the track for others and to not impede my passing on the next lap. At times, this may appear harsh but it serves me well and I am who I am in the passing through life. I think you and I might enjoy each others company. Guyot Léna wrote: > > Hi Harvey, > I used to think you were a bit harsh. Sorry. > > As an experienced Lymie who had to toil through endless googling and > reading groups to help myself, I empowered myself, began to get > better, acquired enough knowledge to compassionately volunteer > whatever I could to newbies. > > Now, I find myself writing, after basic info, '(google it!)' I'm > getting busy with life and burning out on restating the obvious to > each new group of freshmen. Maybe I need an attitude adjustment, but > unless a person is completely disabled and spiraling the drain, their > own investment in their recovery empowers and encourages them to take > responsibility for their recovery; it's a necessary part of the process. > > I've learned the hard way that some of those who approach with a 'help > me, help me, feed me!' attitude sometimes turn out to be 'yeah buts', > who really want attention rather than productive directions, and it's > incredible how much energy they can steal before a group catches on. > > We're all in this together and we should pass stuff on and pay it > forward, but it's good to encourage people to do their own homework at > the onset. > > Be well, > Léna > > > Garnet: > > You do not seem to like the approach of: > > " Hey dude, I have an empty head: You gotta funnel and a week of time? " > > I had a prof one time (best of the best). When he came to class, his > first question was, " Gentlemen, do you have questions from the > assignment? " . If there were none, his next comment was, " Gentlemen, I > am very happy at your full understanding of the subject matter. Please > take out a sheet of paper so that I can make very sure that you fully > understood the material. " > > We then had a 15 minute " shotgun quiz " on the subject matter. This > happened twice and we all started coming to class prepared, with > questions which led him straight into the lecture. This prof was high > ranking retired military and he scared you. When you went to his office > and he found that you really wanted to learn, he gave of his time > extravagantly to make sure you did learn. > > If we came to his class with " Skin in the Game " , we learned. > > If you do not have skin in the game, you are not prepared to learn. > > Newbies should have to read and pass a test on the basic subject matter > of any group for their right of passage but this takes a lot of time for > the group moderator who is usually a very busy person. > > Harvey in Houston > > Garnet wrote: > > If you have the time and the energy > > there is much information in the list > > archives, links and files section. It > > does not sound like you even bothered > > to give a cursory glance to the files, > > where you would find this information. > > > > If you need specifics and do not have > > the time or energy please find a > > consultant and pay them for > > their time. > > > > If you do not have money, time or > > energy, then you must narrow your questions. > > > > Your post sounds as if you feel entitled > > to impose > > on the time and goodwill of others. Most > > people do not respond well to this. > > > > We have all been there, sick, with no > > time, no > > energy and no money, so we are not with out > > compassion, but we are realists. > > > > Garnet, List Owner > > Holistic Health Consultant > > > > ------ > > > > Janet R. , MA > > Blog: http://garnetshealthnotes.blogspot.com > > > > List owner > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urine_therapy > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Pyrroluria > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_4_Pets > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > > > > > >> Hi I am new on here,Can some one tell me > >> the ups and downs of Liquid DMSO,and in > >> what forms it can be taken or used?,To > >> be a teacher is a gift! Teach me and > >> others who have no knowledge of the > >> facts and pitfalls.kind regards.Chris. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > List Home Page: > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > > Books: > > DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton > > MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, > > ND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 I am subscribed to the Budwig Diet list. Long ago, the list owner composed 2 emails that summarize it. Every new subscriber is sent these 2 emails and the owner regularly posts them to the list every 2 weeks. The listowner and other long time Budwigians have been quite tollerant to repetative newbie basic questions. @ 1 year ago, they decided that this had to stop. Now, newbies receive an email stating " When you first subscribed, you were sent 2 emails with diet summary and an index as to what is found in each archive folder. If you did not save the 2 emails, they will soon be posted to the list and you should save and read them. In the meantime, go to this (stated) link and begin reading. " So far, no newbie has balked at this. The only exception to the above is a newbie in obvious medical crisis, such as Stage 4 cancer. The list continues with more detailed inquiries into the diet, where to buy books, kitchen gear and organic food sources, without skipping a beat. Bruce Chesley On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:37:22 -0500 Harvey Metzler writes: > Garnet: > > You do not seem to like the approach of: > > " Hey dude, I have an empty head: You gotta funnel and a week of > time? " > > I had a prof one time (best of the best). When he came to class, > his > first question was, " Gentlemen, do you have questions from the > assignment? " . If there were none, his next comment was, > " Gentlemen, I > am very happy at your full understanding of the subject matter. > Please > take out a sheet of paper so that I can make very sure that you > fully > understood the material. " > > We then had a 15 minute " shotgun quiz " on the subject matter. > This > happened twice and we all started coming to class prepared, with > questions which led him straight into the lecture. This prof was > high > ranking retired military and he scared you. When you went to his > office > and he found that you really wanted to learn, he gave of his time > extravagantly to make sure you did learn. > > If we came to his class with " Skin in the Game " , we learned. > > If you do not have skin in the game, you are not prepared to learn. > > > Newbies should have to read and pass a test on the basic subject > matter > of any group for their right of passage but this takes a lot of time > for > the group moderator who is usually a very busy person. > > Harvey in Houston > > > > Garnet wrote: > > If you have the time and the energy > > there is much information in the list > > archives, links and files section. It > > does not sound like you even bothered > > to give a cursory glance to the files, > > where you would find this information. > > > > If you need specifics and do not have > > the time or energy please find a > > consultant and pay them for > > their time. > > > > If you do not have money, time or > > energy, then you must narrow your questions. > > > > Your post sounds as if you feel entitled > to impose > > on the time and goodwill of others. Most > > people do not respond well to this. > > > > We have all been there, sick, with no > > time, no > > energy and no money, so we are not with out > > compassion, but we are realists. > > > > Garnet, List Owner > > Holistic Health Consultant > > > > ------ > > > > Janet R. , MA > > Blog: http://garnetshealthnotes.blogspot.com > > > > List owner > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urine_therapy > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Pyrroluria > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_4_Pets > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > > > > > >> Hi I am new on here,Can some one tell me > >> the ups and downs of Liquid DMSO,and in > >> what forms it can be taken or used?,To > >> be a teacher is a gift! Teach me and > >> others who have no knowledge of the > >> facts and pitfalls.kind regards.Chris. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > List Home Page: > > > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > > > Books: > > DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton > > MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, > ND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 Thank you for your reply,I have order DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton .which should arrive this coming week,My problem was what kind of reaction would one expect if for instance one drank 98.9 DMSO,mixed with say grapefruit juice,I to did my research going down so many byways and highways and not finding any thing which gave me a clear answer!Having found this group i truly hoped it might be a font of wisdom and knowledge,an oasis in fact where one could sift the gold from the dross,instead i felt under attack.A wise man once said to me,you cant teach a pig to play the violin,it wont like you,it wont thank you and it will probably want to attack you.Kind Regards Truly Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 On 7/26/2011 4:06:58 PM, chris lambrianou (clambrianou1@...) wrote: > Thank you for your reply,I have order DMSO > Nature's Healer by Morton .which should arrive this coming week, Good. You'll find it to be a valuable resource. A knowledge base from which to form pointed questions. >My problem was what kind of reaction would one expect if for instance > one drank 98.9 DMSO,mixed with say grapefruit juice, It'll taste as if it has a warm core and an unpleasant taste. Best to gulp it, not try to savor it. >instead i felt under attack.Kind Regards Truly Chris. It was the form of your request that set everybody off. Sometimes students get on and demand you do their homework for them. They get short shrift... People skills... Chuck I've never seen electricity, so I don't pay for it. I write right on the bill, 'I'm sorry, I haven't seen it all month.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 In a message dated 7/26/2011 4:07:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, clambrianou1@... writes: Thank you for your reply,I have order DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton .which should arrive this coming week,My problem was what kind of reaction would one expect if for instance one drank 98.9 DMSO,mixed with say grapefruit juice Hi give the group another chance... They really are good folks...The book you have coming is Great !! I ordered 3 copies just so I could loan them to folks who were interested in what I learned from them... Dr Stanley s is one who has done major research on DMSO & MSM--- He has taken a tsp of DMSO each day for over 30 years... I have taken it in juice from time to time. I don't get stinky like some folks do :-) but I do get the DMSO taste in my mouth whenever I take it orally. Right now I am using it in 2 ways hoping it will help me knock out stage 3 ovarian cancer... Stick with this gang---..They are a good bunch . Lois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 Hi Chris Just my thoughts on getting DMSO into your system. I don't stir it into a drink, nor any other distasteful powder or liquid. I put it into a spoon with my supplements or coconut oil or something that you find makes it more palatable. Then put a swig of water into your mouth and then put the spoon in and swallow both together. Then wash any taste out of your mouth with your drink. I do this with every oil I take by spoon, too. I found this to be the easiest way to take these kinds of things. Lyn ________________________________ In a message dated 7/26/2011 4:07:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, clambrianou1@... writes: Thank you for your reply,I have order DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton .which should arrive this coming week,My problem was what kind of reaction would one expect if for instance one drank 98.9 DMSO,mixed with say grapefruit juice Hi give the group another chance... They really are good folks...The book you have coming is Great !! I ordered 3 copies just so I could loan them to folks who were interested in what I learned from them... Dr Stanley s is one who has done major research on DMSO & MSM--- He has taken a tsp of DMSO each day for over 30 years... I have taken it in juice from time to time. I don't get stinky like some folks do :-) but I do get the DMSO taste in my mouth whenever I take it orally. Right now I am using it in 2 ways hoping it will help me knock out stage 3 ovarian cancer... Stick with this gang---..They are a good bunch . Lois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 -Hi Lois.Thank you for your kind comments,they are appreciated,And moreover i want to stick with the group.kind regards.Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 Chuck.LOL GOD BLESS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 Why are you guys introducing the DMSO to your GI tract when it will go straight to the blood stream via your skin and the poor old GI tract does not have to wonder what it is you have given it to digest. Harvey Lyn K wrote: > > > Hi Chris > > Just my thoughts on getting DMSO into your system. I don't stir it > into a drink, nor any other distasteful powder or liquid. I put it > into a spoon with my supplements or coconut oil or something that you > find makes it more palatable. Then put a swig of water into your mouth > and then put the spoon in and swallow both together. Then wash any > taste out of your mouth with your drink. I do this with every oil I > take by spoon, too. I found this to be the easiest way to take these > kinds of things. > > Lyn > > ________________________________ > From: " zzekelink@... <mailto:zzekelink%40aol.com> " > <zzekelink@... <mailto:zzekelink%40aol.com>> > > In a message dated 7/26/2011 4:07:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > clambrianou1@... <mailto:clambrianou1%40yahoo.co.uk> writes: > > Thank you for your reply,I have order DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton > .which should arrive this coming week,My problem was what kind > of reaction > would one expect if for instance one drank 98.9 DMSO,mixed with say > grapefruit juice > > Hi give the group another chance... They really are good > folks...The > book you have coming is Great !! I ordered 3 copies just so I could loan > them to folks who were interested in what I learned from them... > Dr Stanley s is one who has done major research on DMSO & MSM--- > He has taken a tsp of DMSO each day for over 30 years... I have taken it > in juice from time to time. I don't get stinky like some folks do :-) > but I > do get the DMSO taste in my mouth whenever I take it orally. Right now > I am > using it in 2 ways hoping it will help me knock out stage 3 ovarian > cancer... Stick with this gang---..They are a good bunch . Lois > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 Hi LYN,I APPRECIATE YOUR SUGGESTION,MY PROBLEM WAS DMSO, SO I WAS TOLD DID NOT GO WELL WITH METAL OR PLASTIC ? THAT'S WHY I USED BOTTLE AND GLASS.KIND REGARDS.CHRIS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 Harvey - you're just too damn smart! > ** > > > Why are you guys introducing the DMSO to your GI tract when it will go > straight to the blood stream via your skin and the poor old GI tract > does not have to wonder what it is you have given it to digest. > > Harvey > > Lyn K wrote: > > > > > > Hi Chris > > > > Just my thoughts on getting DMSO into your system. I don't stir it > > into a drink, nor any other distasteful powder or liquid. I put it > > into a spoon with my supplements or coconut oil or something that you > > find makes it more palatable. Then put a swig of water into your mouth > > and then put the spoon in and swallow both together. Then wash any > > taste out of your mouth with your drink. I do this with every oil I > > take by spoon, too. I found this to be the easiest way to take these > > kinds of things. > > > > Lyn > > > > ________________________________ > > From: " zzekelink@... <mailto:zzekelink%40aol.com> " > > <zzekelink@... <mailto:zzekelink%40aol.com>> > > > > In a message dated 7/26/2011 4:07:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > clambrianou1@... <mailto:clambrianou1%40yahoo.co.uk> writes: > > > > Thank you for your reply,I have order DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton > > .which should arrive this coming week,My problem was what kind > > of reaction > > would one expect if for instance one drank 98.9 DMSO,mixed with say > > grapefruit juice > > > > Hi give the group another chance... They really are good > > folks...The > > book you have coming is Great !! I ordered 3 copies just so I could loan > > them to folks who were interested in what I learned from them... > > Dr Stanley s is one who has done major research on DMSO & MSM--- > > He has taken a tsp of DMSO each day for over 30 years... I have taken it > > in juice from time to time. I don't get stinky like some folks do :-) > > but I > > do get the DMSO taste in my mouth whenever I take it orally. Right now > > I am > > using it in 2 ways hoping it will help me knock out stage 3 ovarian > > cancer... Stick with this gang---..They are a good bunch . Lois > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 In a message dated 7/26/2011 5:11:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, hpm102@... writes: Why are you guys introducing the DMSO to your GI tract when it will go straight to the blood stream via your skin and the poor old GI tract does not have to wonder what it is you have given it to digest. Harvey Hi Harvey, I guess I am trying things I have researched to dump this d--- cancer.. I follow the Budwig program. I refuse chemo, & radiation right now due to the havoc they cause to the poor old body.. I have used the maple sryup baking soda-- & topical DMSO baking soda ( Using that right now } As for shocking my poor old GI tract -- I have used it orally following The DMSO book for a couple other problems & it worked... Now you have me wondering what Stanley s GI tract is thinking.. Yikes !!!! :-) Lois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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