Re: Potential Anemia/Anaemia due to effects of Chemo

[Guest guest]

Pat Swayze didn't die from cancer - he died from chemo poisoning... Tony

Snow, they say, died from colon cancer, bet he hadn't had a colon in 5

years. He, too, died from chemo poisoning. I'm sorry she's on chemo.

There are better ways - for certain, but everyone has to make the choice for

themselves. Most folks are brainwashed into believing King Pharma's puppets

- the mainstream medical establishment.

Gerson's diet is worth looking into. IV Vitamin C - if she can find a

clinic. That's the first thing n Whitaker, MD, would do. IV vitamin

C. Graviola, Flor*Essence tea. H202 - therapy - flooding the body with

oxygen to kill off the disease. Hulda 's Zapper is important, too.

Her books are excellent! I helped a man save his kidney from the

oncologists surgically removing it. Took 4 weeks, but they couldn't find

the cancer. i've helped others beat breast, throat, and bladder cancer,

too.

Organic diet, only - and pure uncontaminated water is very important.

Juicing helps very much, too, but only organic fruits and veggies - no

pesticide laden crops.

Most likely her oncologists would not want her on any supplements, but they

know nothing about nutrition. I'm not Lipitor deficient, nor Ambien

deficient - nor chemo deficient, but she is deficient in some nutrients for

sure.

Whole food Selenium, 10 grams minimum of oral vitamin C may help. Vitamin

D3, Epicor and/or AHCC - good immune system builders.

Hope this helps a little.

> **

>

>

> My friend is undergoing chemo for pancreatic and liver cancer. It seems to

> me that the " cure " is worse than the disease but she wants to continue and,

> given the prognosis is dire, I wouldn't even try to talk her out of it.

> However, she's now getting all those awful side-effects. The one that

> worries her at the moment is that the doctors have said that there's a very

> high risk of her becoming anemic. Blood tests show that she's sliding that

> way.

>

> I'm her entry to this group because she feels too unwell to participate but

> I'm way out of my depth here and it's such a critical situation.

>

> I've told her about Beetroot extract but I'm wondering if there's anything

> else anyone can suggest that might be better? She can't use DMSO because it

> has such an effect on chemo and there are no doctors in the UK that we can

> find who know how to temper the " traditional " treatment to accommodate its

> usage.

>

> As always, any suggestions would be gratefully received. Thank you.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have done the chemo, and I agreed to it, only if I would be given Epogen which

stimulates red blood cell production in the bone marrow, they are shots if my

hemotocrit level fell below ten percent, brain cells begin to die off under that

level, as there is insuffecient oxygen in the blood to support them.

I believe a 10 Hemocrit level in the US, means ten percentage of the blood is

erthrocytes which actually carry the oxygen.

This is USA terminology, so things may be slightly different where you are. Most

chemo salesman are very reluctant to give the patient anything, hence I had to

yell at the docter, scream at the nurses to get epogen, after they made a

promise. Finally when my hemocrit level reached seven, the gave me epogen, at

least here in the US, do not believe everything the dock says. I do hope you

have medical people helping your friend that have integrity.

More than likely, I just had a hard nose dock, who demanded to be in control.

Epogen is normally used in patients with kidney failure

david lubbock tx.

Epogen

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your suggestions. I know chemo is a killer and, in the past, I've

voiced my concerns to her but that was before she was diagnosed. I guess I

can't bring myself to lean on her right now. I've sent her all the information

I have on supplements et al but it's up to her to make the decisions. I

suspect, like many people, she won't go whole-heartedly down the alternative

route until conventional medicine admits they can't cure her.

What I didn't mention (a MAJOR oversight on my part) is that injections are

really not good for her. She's one of those people whose veins are difficult to

find and she has so little fat that the sub-cutaneous injections are now proving

difficult. Already, she's having daily shots for blood clots and then, of

course, there's the chemo itself. Sounds odd but the mode of administration is

freaking her out more than the treatment. The hospital says that, if her blood

count continues to go in this direction, they'll give her transfusions. I can

understand why she's panicking.

It feels a bit like trying to block a leaky colander (do you call them that in

the USA - they're big strainers) - every time I find something to deal with one

side-effect, another one appears elsewhere but it's the anemia she wants to

stave off right now.

Warm and grateful regards

Haze

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > My friend is undergoing chemo for pancreatic and liver cancer. It seems to

> > me that the " cure " is worse than the disease but she wants to continue and,

> > given the prognosis is dire, I wouldn't even try to talk her out of it.

> > However, she's now getting all those awful side-effects. The one that

> > worries her at the moment is that the doctors have said that there's a very

> > high risk of her becoming anemic. Blood tests show that she's sliding that

> > way.

> >

> > I'm her entry to this group because she feels too unwell to participate but

> > I'm way out of my depth here and it's such a critical situation.

> >

> > I've told her about Beetroot extract but I'm wondering if there's anything

> > else anyone can suggest that might be better? She can't use DMSO because it

> > has such an effect on chemo and there are no doctors in the UK that we can

> > find who know how to temper the " traditional " treatment to accommodate its

> > usage.

> >

> > As always, any suggestions would be gratefully received. Thank you.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

As I mentioned in my reply to , who also posted some good stuff, injections

are hard for her to take and it's going to get worse - unless they can be put

into a muscle rather than a vein or fatty tissue. She tells me her consultant

is supportive but I know how some doctors can get a bit touchy if the patient

starts suggesting how they do their jobs.

She's taking Aloe Arborescens at the moment but it's hard to persuade her to

take anything else. I've given her a list of things to investigate when she

feels she wants to but I know how overwhelming this must be for her - she's

never been interested in alternative/complementary medicine before so the

learning curve is steep.

I'll suggest she asks about Epogen and I'll have a google to see if it can be

administered in tablet form.

What I'm " hearing " though is that any other kind of supplement is not going to

help much because chemo is attacking the bone marrow and this needs to be fixed

at source. God, I hate this damned chemo.

Thank you so much for your input.

>

> I have done the chemo, and I agreed to it, only if I would be given Epogen

which stimulates red blood cell production in the bone marrow, they are shots if

my hemotocrit level fell below ten percent, brain cells begin to die off under

that level, as there is insuffecient oxygen in the blood to support them.

> I believe a 10 Hemocrit level in the US, means ten percentage of the blood is

erthrocytes which actually carry the oxygen.

> This is USA terminology, so things may be slightly different where you are.

Most chemo salesman are very reluctant to give the patient anything, hence I had

to yell at the docter, scream at the nurses to get epogen, after they made a

promise. Finally when my hemocrit level reached seven, the gave me epogen, at

least here in the US, do not believe everything the dock says. I do hope you

have medical people helping your friend that have integrity.

> More than likely, I just had a hard nose dock, who demanded to be in control.

> Epogen is normally used in patients with kidney failure

> david lubbock tx.

>

>

>

>

>

> Epogen

>

>

[Guest guest]

Vit B12?

>

> My friend is undergoing chemo for pancreatic and liver cancer. It

> seems to me that the " cure " is worse than the disease but she wants to

> continue and, given the prognosis is dire, I wouldn't even try to talk

> her out of it. However, she's now getting all those awful

> side-effects. The one that worries her at the moment is that the

> doctors have said that there's a very high risk of her becoming

> anemic. Blood tests show that she's sliding that way.

>

> I'm her entry to this group because she feels too unwell to

> participate but I'm way out of my depth here and it's such a critical

> situation.

>

> I've told her about Beetroot extract but I'm wondering if there's

> anything else anyone can suggest that might be better? She can't use

> DMSO because it has such an effect on chemo and there are no doctors

> in the UK that we can find who know how to temper the " traditional "

> treatment to accommodate its usage.

>

> As always, any suggestions would be gratefully received. Thank you.

>

>

--

Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of all good

things.

G. Simpkins

[Guest guest]

Haze, I am very sorry to confuse the issue, as it seems overwheling, but when I

reached the chemo stage, I was in such poor health emotionally and mentally, I

was not very well equiped to make decisions of any kind. Yes, I could kick and

squirm, yell and fuss, but my thinking abilities, to be rational were limited as

my brain was foggy.

I know if I did not have someone personally looking out for my best interest

while in treatment, I would not have done as well as I did.

And colander is an excellant analagy.

FWIW department, they used hot towels on my viens to make them more accessable.

Don't underestimate your importance, it has been ten years since I went there,

and I still feel indebted to the one who helped me. Perhaps it was because I

felt so helpless during that period.. david lubbock tx.

Re: Potential Anemia/Anaemia due to effects of Chemo

Thank you for your suggestions. I know chemo is a killer and, in the past,

I've voiced my concerns to her but that was before she was diagnosed. I guess I

can't bring myself to lean on her right now. I've sent her all the information I

have on supplements et al but it's up to her to make the decisions. I suspect,

like many people, she won't go whole-heartedly down the alternative route until

conventional medicine admits they can't cure her.

What I didn't mention (a MAJOR oversight on my part) is that injections are

really not good for her. She's one of those people whose veins are difficult to

find and she has so little fat that the sub-cutaneous injections are now proving

difficult. Already, she's having daily shots for blood clots and then, of

course, there's the chemo itself. Sounds odd but the mode of administration is

freaking her out more than the treatment. The hospital says that, if her blood

count continues to go in this direction, they'll give her transfusions. I can

understand why she's panicking.

It feels a bit like trying to block a leaky colander (do you call them that in

the USA - they're big strainers) - every time I find something to deal with one

side-effect, another one appears elsewhere but it's the anemia she wants to

stave off right now.

Warm and grateful regards

Haze

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > My friend is undergoing chemo for pancreatic and liver cancer. It seems to

> > me that the " cure " is worse than the disease but she wants to continue

and,

> > given the prognosis is dire, I wouldn't even try to talk her out of it.

> > However, she's now getting all those awful side-effects. The one that

> > worries her at the moment is that the doctors have said that there's a

very

> > high risk of her becoming anemic. Blood tests show that she's sliding that

> > way.

> >

> > I'm her entry to this group because she feels too unwell to participate

but

> > I'm way out of my depth here and it's such a critical situation.

> >

> > I've told her about Beetroot extract but I'm wondering if there's anything

> > else anyone can suggest that might be better? She can't use DMSO because

it

> > has such an effect on chemo and there are no doctors in the UK that we can

> > find who know how to temper the " traditional " treatment to accommodate its

> > usage.

> >

> > As always, any suggestions would be gratefully received. Thank you.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

More than anything else 'out there', I would recommend buying and

reading s Moritz' book, " Cancer Is Not a Disease-It's a Survival

Mechanism " .

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_69?url=search-alias%3Dstripbook

s & field-keywords=cancer+is+not+a+disease+-+it%27s+a+survival+mechanism+b

y+andreas+moritz & sprefix=cancer+is+not+a+disease+-+it%27s+a+survival+mec

hanism+by+andreas+moritz

It's invaluable!

Sharon/starshar

> Thank you for your suggestions. I know chemo is a killer and, in the

past, I've

> voiced my concerns to her but that was before she was diagnosed. I

guess I

> can't bring myself to lean on her right now. I've sent her all the

information I have

> on supplements et al but it's up to her to make the decisions. I

suspect, like

> many people, she won't go whole-heartedly down the alternative route

until

> conventional medicine admits they can't cure her.

>

> What I didn't mention (a MAJOR oversight on my part) is that

injections are really

> not good for her. She's one of those people whose veins are difficult

to find and

> she has so little fat that the sub-cutaneous injections are now

proving difficult.

> Already, she's having daily shots for blood clots and then, of course,

there's the

> chemo itself. Sounds odd but the mode of administration is freaking

her out more

> than the treatment. The hospital says that, if her blood count

continues to go in

> this direction, they'll give her transfusions. I can understand why

she's panicking.

>

> It feels a bit like trying to block a leaky colander (do you call them

that in the USA

> - they're big strainers) - every time I find something to deal with

one side-effect,

> another one appears elsewhere but it's the anemia she wants to stave

off right

> now.

>

>

> Warm and grateful regards

> Haze

>

>

> >

> > > **

> > >

> > >

> > > My friend is undergoing chemo for pancreatic and liver cancer. It

seems to

> > > me that the " cure " is worse than the disease but she wants to

continue and,

> > > given the prognosis is dire, I wouldn't even try to talk her out

of it.

> > > However, she's now getting all those awful side-effects. The one

that

> > > worries her at the moment is that the doctors have said that

there's a very

> > > high risk of her becoming anemic. Blood tests show that she's

sliding that

> > > way.

> > >

> > > I'm her entry to this group because she feels too unwell to

participate but

> > > I'm way out of my depth here and it's such a critical situation.

> > >

> > > I've told her about Beetroot extract but I'm wondering if there's

anything

> > > else anyone can suggest that might be better? She can't use DMSO

because

> it

> > > has such an effect on chemo and there are no doctors in the UK

that we can

> > > find who know how to temper the " traditional " treatment to

accommodate its

> > > usage.

> > >

> > > As always, any suggestions would be gratefully received. Thank

you.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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RE: Potential Anemia/Anaemia due to effects of Chemo

More than anything else 'out there', I would recommend buying and

reading s Moritz' book, " Cancer Is Not a Disease-It's a Survival

Mechanism " .

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_69?url=search-alias%3Dstripbook

s & field-keywords=cancer+is+not+a+disease+-+it%27s+a+survival+mechanism+b

y+andreas+moritz & sprefix=cancer+is+not+a+disease+-+it%27s+a+survival+mec

hanism+by+andreas+moritz

It's invaluable!

Sharon/starshar

> Thank you for your suggestions. I know chemo is a killer and, in the

past, I've

> voiced my concerns to her but that was before she was diagnosed. I

guess I

> can't bring myself to lean on her right now. I've sent her all the

information I have

> on supplements et al but it's up to her to make the decisions. I

suspect, like

> many people, she won't go whole-heartedly down the alternative route

until

> conventional medicine admits they can't cure her.

>

> What I didn't mention (a MAJOR oversight on my part) is that

injections are really

> not good for her. She's one of those people whose veins are difficult

to find and

> she has so little fat that the sub-cutaneous injections are now

proving difficult.

> Already, she's having daily shots for blood clots and then, of course,

there's the

> chemo itself. Sounds odd but the mode of administration is freaking

her out more

> than the treatment. The hospital says that, if her blood count

continues to go in

> this direction, they'll give her transfusions. I can understand why

she's panicking.

>

> It feels a bit like trying to block a leaky colander (do you call them

that in the USA

> - they're big strainers) - every time I find something to deal with

one side-effect,

> another one appears elsewhere but it's the anemia she wants to stave

off right

> now.

>

>

> Warm and grateful regards

> Haze

>

>

> >

> > > **

> > >

> > >

> > > My friend is undergoing chemo for pancreatic and liver cancer. It

seems to

> > > me that the " cure " is worse than the disease but she wants to

continue and,

> > > given the prognosis is dire, I wouldn't even try to talk her out

of it.

> > > However, she's now getting all those awful side-effects. The one

that

> > > worries her at the moment is that the doctors have said that

there's a very

> > > high risk of her becoming anemic. Blood tests show that she's

sliding that

> > > way.

> > >

> > > I'm her entry to this group because she feels too unwell to

participate but

> > > I'm way out of my depth here and it's such a critical situation.

> > >

> > > I've told her about Beetroot extract but I'm wondering if there's

anything

> > > else anyone can suggest that might be better? She can't use DMSO

because

> it

> > > has such an effect on chemo and there are no doctors in the UK

that we can

> > > find who know how to temper the " traditional " treatment to

accommodate its

> > > usage.

> > >

> > > As always, any suggestions would be gratefully received. Thank

you.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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Re: Potential Anemia/Anaemia due to effects of Chemo

Haze, I am very sorry to confuse the issue, as it seems overwheling, but when I

reached the chemo stage, I was in such poor health emotionally and mentally, I

was not very well equiped to make decisions of any kind. Yes, I could kick and

squirm, yell and fuss, but my thinking abilities, to be rational were limited as

my brain was foggy.

I know if I did not have someone personally looking out for my best interest

while in treatment, I would not have done as well as I did.

And colander is an excellant analagy.

FWIW department, they used hot towels on my viens to make them more accessable.

Don't underestimate your importance, it has been ten years since I went there,

and I still feel indebted to the one who helped me. Perhaps it was because I

felt so helpless during that period.. david lubbock tx.

Re: Potential Anemia/Anaemia due to effects of Chemo

Thank you for your suggestions. I know chemo is a killer and, in the past,

I've voiced my concerns to her but that was before she was diagnosed. I guess I

can't bring myself to lean on her right now. I've sent her all the information I

have on supplements et al but it's up to her to make the decisions. I suspect,

like many people, she won't go whole-heartedly down the alternative route until

conventional medicine admits they can't cure her.

What I didn't mention (a MAJOR oversight on my part) is that injections are

really not good for her. She's one of those people whose veins are difficult to

find and she has so little fat that the sub-cutaneous injections are now proving

difficult. Already, she's having daily shots for blood clots and then, of

course, there's the chemo itself. Sounds odd but the mode of administration is

freaking her out more than the treatment. The hospital says that, if her blood

count continues to go in this direction, they'll give her transfusions. I can

understand why she's panicking.

It feels a bit like trying to block a leaky colander (do you call them that in

the USA - they're big strainers) - every time I find something to deal with one

side-effect, another one appears elsewhere but it's the anemia she wants to

stave off right now.

Warm and grateful regards

Haze

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > My friend is undergoing chemo for pancreatic and liver cancer. It seems to

> > me that the " cure " is worse than the disease but she wants to continue

and,

> > given the prognosis is dire, I wouldn't even try to talk her out of it.

> > However, she's now getting all those awful side-effects. The one that

> > worries her at the moment is that the doctors have said that there's a

very

> > high risk of her becoming anemic. Blood tests show that she's sliding that

> > way.

> >

> > I'm her entry to this group because she feels too unwell to participate

but

> > I'm way out of my depth here and it's such a critical situation.

> >

> > I've told her about Beetroot extract but I'm wondering if there's anything

> > else anyone can suggest that might be better? She can't use DMSO because

it

> > has such an effect on chemo and there are no doctors in the UK that we can

> > find who know how to temper the " traditional " treatment to accommodate its

> > usage.

> >

> > As always, any suggestions would be gratefully received. Thank you.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Re: Potential Anemia/Anaemia due to effects of Chemo

As I mentioned in my reply to , who also posted some good stuff, injections

are hard for her to take and it's going to get worse - unless they can be put

into a muscle rather than a vein or fatty tissue. She tells me her consultant

is supportive but I know how some doctors can get a bit touchy if the patient

starts suggesting how they do their jobs.

She's taking Aloe Arborescens at the moment but it's hard to persuade her to

take anything else. I've given her a list of things to investigate when she

feels she wants to but I know how overwhelming this must be for her - she's

never been interested in alternative/complementary medicine before so the

learning curve is steep.

I'll suggest she asks about Epogen and I'll have a google to see if it can be

administered in tablet form.

What I'm " hearing " though is that any other kind of supplement is not going to

help much because chemo is attacking the bone marrow and this needs to be fixed

at source. God, I hate this damned chemo.

Thank you so much for your input.

>

> I have done the chemo, and I agreed to it, only if I would be given Epogen

which stimulates red blood cell production in the bone marrow, they are shots if

my hemotocrit level fell below ten percent, brain cells begin to die off under

that level, as there is insuffecient oxygen in the blood to support them.

> I believe a 10 Hemocrit level in the US, means ten percentage of the blood is

erthrocytes which actually carry the oxygen.

> This is USA terminology, so things may be slightly different where you are.

Most chemo salesman are very reluctant to give the patient anything, hence I had

to yell at the docter, scream at the nurses to get epogen, after they made a

promise. Finally when my hemocrit level reached seven, the gave me epogen, at

least here in the US, do not believe everything the dock says. I do hope you

have medical people helping your friend that have integrity.

> More than likely, I just had a hard nose dock, who demanded to be in control.

> Epogen is normally used in patients with kidney failure

> david lubbock tx.

>

>

>

>

>

> Epogen

>

>

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Re: Potential Anemia/Anaemia due to effects of Chemo

Vit B12?

>

> My friend is undergoing chemo for pancreatic and liver cancer. It

> seems to me that the " cure " is worse than the disease but she wants to

> continue and, given the prognosis is dire, I wouldn't even try to talk

> her out of it. However, she's now getting all those awful

> side-effects. The one that worries her at the moment is that the

> doctors have said that there's a very high risk of her becoming

> anemic. Blood tests show that she's sliding that way.

>

> I'm her entry to this group because she feels too unwell to

> participate but I'm way out of my depth here and it's such a critical

> situation.

>

> I've told her about Beetroot extract but I'm wondering if there's

> anything else anyone can suggest that might be better? She can't use

> DMSO because it has such an effect on chemo and there are no doctors

> in the UK that we can find who know how to temper the " traditional "

> treatment to accommodate its usage.

>

> As always, any suggestions would be gratefully received. Thank you.

>

>

--

Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of all good

things.

G. Simpkins

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Potential Anemia/Anaemia due to effects of Chemo

My friend is undergoing chemo for pancreatic and liver cancer. It seems to me

that the " cure " is worse than the disease but she wants to continue and, given

the prognosis is dire, I wouldn't even try to talk her out of it. However,

she's now getting all those awful side-effects. The one that worries her at the

moment is that the doctors have said that there's a very high risk of her

becoming anemic. Blood tests show that she's sliding that way.

I'm her entry to this group because she feels too unwell to participate but I'm

way out of my depth here and it's such a critical situation.

I've told her about Beetroot extract but I'm wondering if there's anything else

anyone can suggest that might be better? She can't use DMSO because it has such

an effect on chemo and there are no doctors in the UK that we can find who know

how to temper the " traditional " treatment to accommodate its usage.

As always, any suggestions would be gratefully received. Thank you.

[Guest guest]

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Re: Potential Anemia/Anaemia due to effects of Chemo

Pat Swayze didn't die from cancer - he died from chemo poisoning... Tony

Snow, they say, died from colon cancer, bet he hadn't had a colon in 5

years. He, too, died from chemo poisoning. I'm sorry she's on chemo.

There are better ways - for certain, but everyone has to make the choice for

themselves. Most folks are brainwashed into believing King Pharma's puppets

- the mainstream medical establishment.

Gerson's diet is worth looking into. IV Vitamin C - if she can find a

clinic. That's the first thing n Whitaker, MD, would do. IV vitamin

C. Graviola, Flor*Essence tea. H202 - therapy - flooding the body with

oxygen to kill off the disease. Hulda 's Zapper is important, too.

Her books are excellent! I helped a man save his kidney from the

oncologists surgically removing it. Took 4 weeks, but they couldn't find

the cancer. i've helped others beat breast, throat, and bladder cancer,

too.

Organic diet, only - and pure uncontaminated water is very important.

Juicing helps very much, too, but only organic fruits and veggies - no

pesticide laden crops.

Most likely her oncologists would not want her on any supplements, but they

know nothing about nutrition. I'm not Lipitor deficient, nor Ambien

deficient - nor chemo deficient, but she is deficient in some nutrients for

sure.

Whole food Selenium, 10 grams minimum of oral vitamin C may help. Vitamin

D3, Epicor and/or AHCC - good immune system builders.

Hope this helps a little.

> **

>

>

> My friend is undergoing chemo for pancreatic and liver cancer. It seems to

> me that the " cure " is worse than the disease but she wants to continue and,

> given the prognosis is dire, I wouldn't even try to talk her out of it.

> However, she's now getting all those awful side-effects. The one that

> worries her at the moment is that the doctors have said that there's a very

> high risk of her becoming anemic. Blood tests show that she's sliding that

> way.

>

> I'm her entry to this group because she feels too unwell to participate but

> I'm way out of my depth here and it's such a critical situation.

>

> I've told her about Beetroot extract but I'm wondering if there's anything

> else anyone can suggest that might be better? She can't use DMSO because it

> has such an effect on chemo and there are no doctors in the UK that we can

> find who know how to temper the " traditional " treatment to accommodate its

> usage.

>

> As always, any suggestions would be gratefully received. Thank you.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Is " do it yourself " too much to ask? Better a million people waste one

second per email (and therefore murder one person cumulatively) than

take care of it on you rown time?

>

> Unsubscribe me!

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> Re: Potential Anemia/Anaemia due to effects of Chemo

>

> Pat Swayze didn't die from cancer - he died from chemo poisoning... Tony

> Snow, they say, died from colon cancer, bet he hadn't had a colon in 5

> years. He, too, died from chemo poisoning. I'm sorry she's on chemo.

> There are better ways - for certain, but everyone has to make the

> choice for

> themselves. Most folks are brainwashed into believing King Pharma's

> puppets

> - the mainstream medical establishment.

>

> Gerson's diet is worth looking into. IV Vitamin C - if she can find a

> clinic. That's the first thing n Whitaker, MD, would do. IV vitamin

> C. Graviola, Flor*Essence tea. H202 - therapy - flooding the body with

> oxygen to kill off the disease. Hulda 's Zapper is important, too.

> Her books are excellent! I helped a man save his kidney from the

> oncologists surgically removing it. Took 4 weeks, but they couldn't find

> the cancer. i've helped others beat breast, throat, and bladder cancer,

> too.

>

> Organic diet, only - and pure uncontaminated water is very important.

> Juicing helps very much, too, but only organic fruits and veggies - no

> pesticide laden crops.

>

> Most likely her oncologists would not want her on any supplements, but

> they

> know nothing about nutrition. I'm not Lipitor deficient, nor Ambien

> deficient - nor chemo deficient, but she is deficient in some

> nutrients for

> sure.

>

> Whole food Selenium, 10 grams minimum of oral vitamin C may help. Vitamin

> D3, Epicor and/or AHCC - good immune system builders.

>

> Hope this helps a little.

>

>

>

> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:21 PM, hazexxxxx <hazexxxxx@...

> <mailto:hazexxxxx%40yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > My friend is undergoing chemo for pancreatic and liver cancer. It

> seems to

> > me that the " cure " is worse than the disease but she wants to

> continue and,

> > given the prognosis is dire, I wouldn't even try to talk her out of it.

> > However, she's now getting all those awful side-effects. The one that

> > worries her at the moment is that the doctors have said that there's

> a very

> > high risk of her becoming anemic. Blood tests show that she's

> sliding that

> > way.

> >

> > I'm her entry to this group because she feels too unwell to

> participate but

> > I'm way out of my depth here and it's such a critical situation.

> >

> > I've told her about Beetroot extract but I'm wondering if there's

> anything

> > else anyone can suggest that might be better? She can't use DMSO

> because it

> > has such an effect on chemo and there are no doctors in the UK that

> we can

> > find who know how to temper the " traditional " treatment to

> accommodate its

> > usage.

> >

> > As always, any suggestions would be gratefully received. Thank you.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've tried that and keep getting dozens of your emails per day. I want off this

thing! Either help or tell me who can.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: Potential Anemia/Anaemia due to effects of Chemo

>

> Pat Swayze didn't die from cancer - he died from chemo poisoning... Tony

> Snow, they say, died from colon cancer, bet he hadn't had a colon in 5

> years. He, too, died from chemo poisoning. I'm sorry she's on chemo.

> There are better ways - for certain, but everyone has to make the

> choice for

> themselves. Most folks are brainwashed into believing King Pharma's

> puppets

> - the mainstream medical establishment.

>

> Gerson's diet is worth looking into. IV Vitamin C - if she can find a

> clinic. That's the first thing n Whitaker, MD, would do. IV vitamin

> C. Graviola, Flor*Essence tea. H202 - therapy - flooding the body with

> oxygen to kill off the disease. Hulda 's Zapper is important, too.

> Her books are excellent! I helped a man save his kidney from the

> oncologists surgically removing it. Took 4 weeks, but they couldn't find

> the cancer. i've helped others beat breast, throat, and bladder cancer,

> too.

>

> Organic diet, only - and pure uncontaminated water is very important.

> Juicing helps very much, too, but only organic fruits and veggies - no

> pesticide laden crops.

>

> Most likely her oncologists would not want her on any supplements, but

> they

> know nothing about nutrition. I'm not Lipitor deficient, nor Ambien

> deficient - nor chemo deficient, but she is deficient in some

> nutrients for

> sure.

>

> Whole food Selenium, 10 grams minimum of oral vitamin C may help. Vitamin

> D3, Epicor and/or AHCC - good immune system builders.

>

> Hope this helps a little.

>

>

>

> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:21 PM, hazexxxxx <hazexxxxx@...

> <mailto:hazexxxxx%40yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > My friend is undergoing chemo for pancreatic and liver cancer. It

> seems to

> > me that the " cure " is worse than the disease but she wants to

> continue and,

> > given the prognosis is dire, I wouldn't even try to talk her out of it.

> > However, she's now getting all those awful side-effects. The one that

> > worries her at the moment is that the doctors have said that there's

> a very

> > high risk of her becoming anemic. Blood tests show that she's

> sliding that

> > way.

> >

> > I'm her entry to this group because she feels too unwell to

> participate but

> > I'm way out of my depth here and it's such a critical situation.

> >

> > I've told her about Beetroot extract but I'm wondering if there's

> anything

> > else anyone can suggest that might be better? She can't use DMSO

> because it

> > has such an effect on chemo and there are no doctors in the UK that

> we can

> > find who know how to temper the " traditional " treatment to

> accommodate its

> > usage.

> >

> > As always, any suggestions would be gratefully received. Thank you.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You might drop your BlackBerry down a garbage disposal and turn on the

switch!

Harvey in Houston

crews.becky@... wrote:

>

>

> I've tried that and keep getting dozens of your emails per day. I want

> off this thing! Either help or tell me who can.

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lovely! Thanks so much for your kind help. I just want off this thing, so any

practical assistance will be appreciated. Scorn and invective - amazingly enough

- have not solved my problem.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: Potential Anemia/Anaemia due to effects of Chemo

You might drop your BlackBerry down a garbage disposal and turn on the

switch!

Harvey in Houston

crews.becky@... wrote:

>

>

> I've tried that and keep getting dozens of your emails per day. I want

> off this thing! Either help or tell me who can.

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You apparently have no sense of humor but a good vocabulary and both

will get you exasperated with life.

You have to reach terribly to even dream of " invective " so you are

looking for someone to knock the chip off your shoulder.

Until we know if you have done anything except send the same e-mail over

and over to clutter our mail boxes, we do not know how to help you to

make you disappear. Have you bothered to go to Yahoo Groups and inquire

as to why the automatic " make you disappear " does not work?

If so, and you seem to find no way to be turned loose, have you set your

filter on your Blackberry to automatically drop all e-mails in this

group into your spam folder so you can delete them in mass and never

even know they are there?

This is what is called " working behind the scenes to make your life

seamless " .

Harvey

crews.becky@... wrote:

>

> Lovely! Thanks so much for your kind help. I just want off this thing,

> so any practical assistance will be appreciated. Scorn and invective -

> amazingly enough - have not solved my problem.

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

> Re: Potential Anemia/Anaemia due to effects of Chemo

>

> You might drop your BlackBerry down a garbage disposal and turn on the

> switch!

>

> Harvey in Houston

>

> crews.becky@... <mailto:crews.becky%40yahoo.com> wrote:

> >

> >

> > I've tried that and keep getting dozens of your emails per day. I want

> > off this thing! Either help or tell me who can.

> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Crews.becky confirms my long held belief that certain

technology users use technology as toys, without reading

the directions. The group became one toy, which she no

longer wishes to play with. Now, she uses another toy to

spam the list instead of going to the group's yahoogroups

entry and just copy / paste the unsub into her emailer write

to address field and press send.

Bruce Chesley

On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 12:49:09 -0500 Harvey Metzler

writes:

You might drop your BlackBerry down a garbage disposal and turn on the

switch!

Harvey in Houston

crews.becky@... wrote:

>

>

> I've tried that and keep getting dozens of your emails per day. I want

> off this thing! Either help or tell me who can.

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

That's rather harsh and unnecessary. Not everyone is tech-savvy,

especially when sick. I hope you never find yourself in this situation.

Crews.becky confirms my long held belief that certain

technology users use technology as toys, without reading

the directions. The group became one toy, which she no

longer wishes to play with. Now, she uses another toy to

spam the list instead of going to the group's yahoogroups

entry and just copy / paste the unsub into her emailer write

to address field and press send.

Bruce Chesley

On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 12:49:09 -0500 Harvey Metzler

writes:

You might drop your BlackBerry down a garbage disposal and turn on the

switch!

Harvey in Houston

crews.becky@... wrote:

>

>

> I've tried that and keep getting dozens of your emails per day. I

want

> off this thing! Either help or tell me who can.

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________________

Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat!

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[Guest guest]

Bruce:

Sick enough for what?

Your question seems to have absolutely nothing to do with this thread so

you will need to get a lot more specific about what you wish to needle

me about. Actually dieing twice and being brought back to life may not

have much to do with your present state of health.

If your present state of health is feeble, let us start there and, after

so stating, ask me what you wish me to do for you because of it and I

will see if your request is reasonable based upon your present state of

health.

H

excalibur25@... wrote:

>

> I don't know, Harvey. I guess that having died twice and

> been resusitated twice in the past few years doesn't qualify

> as being sick enough. Please post what criteria does meet

> your standard.

>

> Bruce Chesley

>

> On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:15:53 -0400 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Guyot_L=E9na?=

> <drumroll@... <mailto:drumroll%40stny.rr.com>> writes:

> > That's rather harsh and unnecessary. Not everyone is tech-savvy,

> > especially when sick. I hope you never find yourself in this

> > situation.

> > On Jul 30, 2011, at 3:08 PM, excalibur25@...

> <mailto:excalibur25%40juno.com> wrote:

> >

> > Crews.becky confirms my long held belief that certain

> > technology users use technology as toys, without reading

> > the directions. The group became one toy, which she no

> > longer wishes to play with. Now, she uses another toy to

> > spam the list instead of going to the group's yahoogroups

> > entry and just copy / paste the unsub into her emailer write

> > to address field and press send.

> >

> > Bruce Chesley

> >

> > On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 12:49:09 -0500 Harvey Metzler

> > <hpm102@... <mailto:hpm102%40hal-pc.org>>

> > writes:

> >

> > You might drop your BlackBerry down a garbage disposal and turn on

> > the

> > switch!

> >

> > Harvey in Houston

> >

> > crews.becky@... <mailto:crews.becky%40yahoo.com> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > I've tried that and keep getting dozens of your emails per day. I

> >

> > want

> > > off this thing! Either help or tell me who can.

> > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > __________________________________________________________

> > Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat!

> > http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I don't know, Harvey. I guess that having died twice and

been resusitated twice in the past few years doesn't qualify

as being sick enough. Please post what criteria does meet

your standard.

Bruce Chesley

On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:15:53 -0400 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Guyot_L=E9na?=

writes:

> That's rather harsh and unnecessary. Not everyone is tech-savvy,

> especially when sick. I hope you never find yourself in this

> situation.

>

>

> Crews.becky confirms my long held belief that certain

> technology users use technology as toys, without reading

> the directions. The group became one toy, which she no

> longer wishes to play with. Now, she uses another toy to

> spam the list instead of going to the group's yahoogroups

> entry and just copy / paste the unsub into her emailer write

> to address field and press send.

>

> Bruce Chesley

>

> On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 12:49:09 -0500 Harvey Metzler

>

> writes:

>

> You might drop your BlackBerry down a garbage disposal and turn on

> the

> switch!

>

> Harvey in Houston

>

> crews.becky@... wrote:

> >

> >

> > I've tried that and keep getting dozens of your emails per day. I

>

> want

> > off this thing! Either help or tell me who can.

> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> __________________________________________________________

> Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat!

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>

>

[Guest guest]

LMAO - Bruce didn't look at who had written that he was being nasty &

assumed it was you Harvery - he should know you are a lovely man )

----- Original Message -----

> Bruce:

>

> Sick enough for what?

>

> Your question seems to have absolutely nothing to do with this thread so

> you will need to get a lot more specific about what you wish to needle

> me about.

[Guest guest]

Tyring to get this thread back to the original question having had it hijacked

temporarily by Becky's technology challenges lol.

Just thought I'd let you know that my friend is opting for Spatone - it's

supposed to be a readily absorbable source of iron. No mention of B12 though.

Will update here to let you know what happens.

Thanks again for all the suggestions.

> >

> > I have done the chemo, and I agreed to it, only if I would be given Epogen

which stimulates red blood cell production in the bone marrow, they are shots if

my hemotocrit level fell below ten percent, brain cells begin to die off under

that level, as there is insuffecient oxygen in the blood to support them.

> > I believe a 10 Hemocrit level in the US, means ten percentage of the blood

is erthrocytes which actually carry the oxygen.

> > This is USA terminology, so things may be slightly different where you are.

Most chemo salesman are very reluctant to give the patient anything, hence I had

to yell at the docter, scream at the nurses to get epogen, after they made a

promise. Finally when my hemocrit level reached seven, the gave me epogen, at

least here in the US, do not believe everything the dock says. I do hope you

have medical people helping your friend that have integrity.

> > More than likely, I just had a hard nose dock, who demanded to be in

control.

> > Epogen is normally used in patients with kidney failure

> > david lubbock tx.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Epogen

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

haze,

Use http://www.searchalot.com to lookup " anemia " . There

are several types. Iron and B-12 deficiencies are age related.

TOXIC allopathic cancer treatment will also deminish them.

I have genetic hemochromatosis, so, my issue is too much

iron. I take 2, 1000 strength, B-12's per day, as I was deficient

in it. I began taking 4, but, that caused elevated kidney counts.

My anemia seems to be in better control. Once I return to

exercising, my anemia should further improve.

As for your friend, if they have blood on the toilet paper, in

black feces, then run, don't walk to an ER. They likely have a

bleeding ulcer that is causing the anemia. If the blood is

outside the feces, then its likely hemoroids. Still, have it

checked.

Bruce Chesley

On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 08:29:16 -0000 " hazexxxxx "

writes:

Tyring to get this thread back to the original question having had it

hijacked temporarily by Becky's technology challenges lol.

Just thought I'd let you know that my friend is opting for Spatone - it's

supposed to be a readily absorbable source of iron. No mention of B12

though. Will update here to let you know what happens.

Thanks again for all the suggestions.

> >

> > I have done the chemo, and I agreed to it, only if I would be given

Epogen which stimulates red blood cell production in the bone marrow,

they are shots if my hemotocrit level fell below ten percent, brain cells

begin to die off under that level, as there is insuffecient oxygen in the

blood to support them.

> > I believe a 10 Hemocrit level in the US, means ten percentage of the

blood is erthrocytes which actually carry the oxygen.

> > This is USA terminology, so things may be slightly different where

you are. Most chemo salesman are very reluctant to give the patient

anything, hence I had to yell at the docter, scream at the nurses to get

epogen, after they made a promise. Finally when my hemocrit level reached

seven, the gave me epogen, at least here in the US, do not believe

everything the dock says. I do hope you have medical people helping your

friend that have integrity.

> > More than likely, I just had a hard nose dock, who demanded to be in

control.

> > Epogen is normally used in patients with kidney failure

> > david lubbock tx.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Epogen

> >

> >