Guest guest Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Are you speaking about Chelation Therapy? Its an IV drip and it takes two weeks to clean the body. TheoV -------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Hydrochloric Acid To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 5:11 AM  I am reading prior to antibiotic therapy, there was hydrochloric acid injected intermuscular, or IV, that really stimulated the immune system to combat infections and it seemed to work really well. Does anyone have any imput on it's use in this generation? It was used in dire situations, and patients near death recovered well. david lubbock tx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Yes, I have done some veterinary work with dilute HCl acid. My story: http://www.racehorseherbal.com/Infections/HCL/hcl.html doug a. ----- Original Message ----- > > I am reading prior to antibiotic therapy, there was hydrochloric acid > injected intermuscular, or IV, that really stimulated the immune system to > combat infections and it seemed to work really well. Does anyone have any > imput on it's use in this generation? It was used in dire situations, and > patients near death recovered well. > david lubbock tx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 TheoV, you are truly clost, they use EDTA to dissolve bacteria, and also for chelation. Hydrochloric Acid, HCL was injected IV, or intermuscular to inspire the immune system, white blood cells to increase some twenty percent. I have leukemia, and was staying alive, I started taking LDN, and Betaine HCL, digestive enzymes, choclacol, which is used by those who have their gaul bladder removed to digest fat. It was like all of a sudden I was twenty years younger, I am seventy years old, but feel like I am fifty, since digesting aids have been added. Now I read, it was somewhat common fifty or more years ago, to give HCL for serious infections. One protocol was to administer ten CC's of one to thousand HCL IV for about seven days concurrently. Within a couple hours of admining HCL, the patient had came out of a coma, fever dropped, and well on their way to being totally healed. For whatever reason HCL kicks up the immune system which in turn the body heals itself. I have often wondered why researchers have never pursued, inspiring our immune system to heal. It has evolved through eons of generation rescuing our bodies from disease, yet researchers ignore this avenue to good health. I read there was some fear that HCL would harden the arteries, but that proved to be untrue. I take 2400mgs of sugar beet derived HCL with each meal. It builds a small fire in my tummy, but very tolerable. I also take 4.5mgs of LDN daily which improves my blood products about fifty percentile, now I am thinking the HCL must also cause my immune system to improve more so. I have used tiny amounts of levadopa, a parkinson script med, which seems to work synergistically with other meds to improve their desired out-come. example, w/o aid, my white blood cell count will be 2500, with LDN, it will be 3500, w/ levadopa, about 4000, now I am excited to have blood work done to determine if in fact HCL taken orally is boosting my immune system further. I must say, I do not write down references from our medical library where I do most of my reading. Anywho I have ordered HCL via the internet, it is mixed one to five hundred, if needed I will add a like amount of sterile water and use it as an antibiotic, and inject it sub q, which in most other meds, testosterone, HCG works the same as internuscular. I use 28/30 gauge needles for sub q, where IM uses 18/20 gauge needles. I feel sure I may be wrong, but it seems to me, our AMA, American Medical Association has went to great lengths to protect itself, by using manipulative protocols and procedures to provide more patients, and more monies for it's members. When I stop to think, how much money could be envolved using HCL as an antibiotic, verses current use of antibiotics, which the news media tells us, are not working as well as they once did. ie antibiotic resistant bacteria. All just my personal opinion, have some ten years as a military medic. Hence there is a lot I don't know, but have had chronic leukemia some twelve years, but taking good care of myself. stay vertical, david lubbock tx. Hydrochloric Acid To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011, 5:11 AM I am reading prior to antibiotic therapy, there was hydrochloric acid injected intermuscular, or IV, that really stimulated the immune system to combat infections and it seemed to work really well. Does anyone have any imput on it's use in this generation? It was used in dire situations, and patients near death recovered well. david lubbock tx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Wow, Polo, right on topic, what a read you put up. reading it now, thanks, david lubbock tx. Re: Hydrochloric Acid Yes, I have done some veterinary work with dilute HCl acid. My story: http://www.racehorseherbal.com/Infections/HCL/hcl.html doug a. ----- Original Message ----- > > I am reading prior to antibiotic therapy, there was hydrochloric acid > injected intermuscular, or IV, that really stimulated the immune system to > combat infections and it seemed to work really well. Does anyone have any > imput on it's use in this generation? It was used in dire situations, and > patients near death recovered well. > david lubbock tx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Doug A, that was extremely interesting, your page. I have it bookmarked, I am assuming you continue to use HCL on your horses. For no reason other than a strong gut feeling, I seem to think, taking HCL orally is providing me with some protection. I shall mix some novacaine with a 1:1000 mix and use it subq if the need arises. Twice I have been hospitalized w/ serious infections, urinary tract, and cellulitus. Both a serious event, as my immune system was not capable of recovering, white blood cell count went to zero, and was relying totally on " big gun antibiotics " , I survived five years using human growth hormone to boost my immune system, but a rather expensive procedure, after a year of experimenting, I found half a unit daily would give optimum results. My docks became irate that I should ask for HGH. So was on my own. But ha, I survived well and have not had hospitalization in eight years. Since starting HCL, I am excited to have another leukemic activity tests to see where I am. ie interleukin 2 receptor test. I found it very interesting, back in thirties, it was thought nothing should be injected directly into the viens/arteries. So it took someone with big gonads to go against the flow. stay vertical, david lubbock tx Re: Hydrochloric Acid Yes, I have done some veterinary work with dilute HCl acid. My story: http://www.racehorseherbal.com/Infections/HCL/hcl.html doug a. ----- Original Message ----- > > I am reading prior to antibiotic therapy, there was hydrochloric acid > injected intermuscular, or IV, that really stimulated the immune system to > combat infections and it seemed to work really well. Does anyone have any > imput on it's use in this generation? It was used in dire situations, and > patients near death recovered well. > david lubbock tx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 , Thanks. Yes, I have sold quite a bit of dilute HCl to Ireland for treatment on their racehorses over there. Me, personally, my livestock seems too healthy for me to have much use for it at the moment. Maybe in the future? It is nice to have it in one's chest when the need arises.The bad part is that HCl is most effective given IV which can be a problem in some cases. I wonder if it could be made into a liposomal solution to bypass the gut and hit the blood stream directly? If I were you, I would also seriously consider Vitamin C as an antibiotic and anti-viral. Maybe you have already? doug a. Re: Hydrochloric Acid > Doug A, that was extremely interesting, your page. I have it bookmarked, > I am assuming you continue to use HCL on your horses. > For no reason other than a strong gut feeling, I seem to think, taking HCL > orally is providing me with some protection. > I shall mix some novacaine with a 1:1000 mix and use it subq if the need > arises. Twice I have been hospitalized w/ serious infections, urinary > tract, and cellulitus. Both a serious event, as my immune system was not > capable of recovering, white blood cell count went to zero, and was > relying totally on " big gun antibiotics " , I survived five years using > human growth hormone to boost my immune system, but a rather expensive > procedure, after a year of experimenting, I found half a unit daily would > give optimum results. My docks became irate that I should ask for HGH. So > was on my own. But ha, I survived well and have not had hospitalization > in eight years. Since starting HCL, I am excited to have another leukemic > activity tests to see where I am. ie interleukin 2 receptor test. > I found it very interesting, back in thirties, it was thought nothing > should be injected directly into the viens/arteries. So it took someone > with big gonads to go against the flow. > stay vertical, david lubbock tx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Great idea, Doug, no reason HCL cannot be used with DMSO as a carrier, unless the HCL molecule is too large to be carried inside and through the skin. Muscle builders use yohimbe HCL, so most likely HCL can be used the same. I have used DMSO and tagamet made into a paste w/ water tag is very water soluble, then diluted with a couple tablespoons of DMSO to carry it into skin cancer, gets rid of basal cell, squamous cell, it won't work for melanoma, or so I am told. Cimentidine the chemical in tagamet, must do the trick, or perhaps it is the alkalizing factor???? Vitamin C, lipo was used by a dairy farmer from New Zealand to cure his leukemia. david lubbock tx. Re: Hydrochloric Acid > Doug A, that was extremely interesting, your page. I have it bookmarked, > I am assuming you continue to use HCL on your horses. > For no reason other than a strong gut feeling, I seem to think, taking HCL > orally is providing me with some protection. > I shall mix some novacaine with a 1:1000 mix and use it subq if the need > arises. Twice I have been hospitalized w/ serious infections, urinary > tract, and cellulitus. Both a serious event, as my immune system was not > capable of recovering, white blood cell count went to zero, and was > relying totally on " big gun antibiotics " , I survived five years using > human growth hormone to boost my immune system, but a rather expensive > procedure, after a year of experimenting, I found half a unit daily would > give optimum results. My docks became irate that I should ask for HGH. So > was on my own. But ha, I survived well and have not had hospitalization > in eight years. Since starting HCL, I am excited to have another leukemic > activity tests to see where I am. ie interleukin 2 receptor test. > I found it very interesting, back in thirties, it was thought nothing > should be injected directly into the viens/arteries. So it took someone > with big gonads to go against the flow. > stay vertical, david lubbock tx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 , I don't think one could probably mix DMSO with HCl and get what was desired. Also, I am not sure one could really make liposomes out of a dilute HCl solution as the liposome integrity is considered very pH sensitive, but it will take more study and experimentation to know that for sure. My brother had leukemia and accordingly, I have studied it a lot. I am of a suspicion that many leukemias (not all) are fungus based infections. Here is my story on my brother's leukemia and what I found out: http://www.racehorseherbal.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=8 & t=63 doug a. Re: Hydrochloric Acid > Great idea, Doug, no reason HCL cannot be used with DMSO as a carrier, > unless the HCL molecule is too large to be carried inside and through the > skin. Muscle builders use yohimbe HCL, so most likely HCL can be used the > same. I have used DMSO and tagamet made into a paste w/ water tag is very > water soluble, then diluted with a couple tablespoons of DMSO to carry it > into skin cancer, gets rid of basal cell, squamous cell, it won't work for > melanoma, or so I am told. Cimentidine the chemical in tagamet, must do > the trick, or perhaps it is the alkalizing factor???? > > Vitamin C, lipo was used by a dairy farmer from New Zealand to cure his > leukemia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Doug, thanks for reminding me about yeast/fungus, I have read of some with fungus, being dxed with leukemia. Will check this out, thanks for the info. david lubbock tx Re: Hydrochloric Acid > Great idea, Doug, no reason HCL cannot be used with DMSO as a carrier, > unless the HCL molecule is too large to be carried inside and through the > skin. Muscle builders use yohimbe HCL, so most likely HCL can be used the > same. I have used DMSO and tagamet made into a paste w/ water tag is very > water soluble, then diluted with a couple tablespoons of DMSO to carry it > into skin cancer, gets rid of basal cell, squamous cell, it won't work for > melanoma, or so I am told. Cimentidine the chemical in tagamet, must do > the trick, or perhaps it is the alkalizing factor???? > > Vitamin C, lipo was used by a dairy farmer from New Zealand to cure his > leukemia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2011 Report Share Posted April 10, 2011 Great Story Doug A. it is enlightening, one basic problem we have with yeast, is it is not gained any popularity with research, I am reading during the last six months, niacin, B3, and tamoxifen are yeast killers. The only other yeast killer is an IV administered drug, that is given several days running. Everything else including the script drugs relies on the immune system finishing the job, but " what about us who have a comprimised immune system " ? For whateverr reason, my dosage of three Betaine HCL, is inferior, if I take four Betaine HCL, thats 2500mgs of sugar beet HCL, I rock, anything less and I just get by. I do read HCL is anti yeast. Anywho, I also take LDN, which is my life saver, very inexpensive. I have this very strong gut feeling, if the sick, lame and lazy were to ensure there digestive tract was functioning properly. ie no yeast, good digestion, we would have less of them, including myself. I will agree with you, in regards to leukemia being fungal based, and most likely some cancers as well. I have some HCL on the way, one to five hundred, and lidocaine, will load up w/ HCL and see what happens. I am not skilled to IV, but can go sub q on myself. Maybe an eight day run, with vitamin C, and HCL could knock this leukemia out. Then on the other hand, that is the left, my health is pretty good at the moment. I played eighteen holes of golf, then rested a couple hours and went dancing from eight to midnight, I laid out one of every three dances, but do git with it when I do dance. My favorite is the triple two step, and it is a mover. stay vertical, david lubbock tx. Re: Hydrochloric Acid > Great idea, Doug, no reason HCL cannot be used with DMSO as a carrier, > unless the HCL molecule is too large to be carried inside and through the > skin. Muscle builders use yohimbe HCL, so most likely HCL can be used the > same. I have used DMSO and tagamet made into a paste w/ water tag is very > water soluble, then diluted with a couple tablespoons of DMSO to carry it > into skin cancer, gets rid of basal cell, squamous cell, it won't work for > melanoma, or so I am told. Cimentidine the chemical in tagamet, must do > the trick, or perhaps it is the alkalizing factor???? > > Vitamin C, lipo was used by a dairy farmer from New Zealand to cure his > leukemia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2011 Report Share Posted April 10, 2011 , Let me know how your HCl turns out. I presume you are ordering the 1:500 HCL solutions, I see out there which is not prepared for injectable use. I would advise you to filter with a .22 micron filter before injecting, if you are planning on using this grade and probably dilute to at least 1:1000 or less if you plan to go subq. doug a. Re: Hydrochloric Acid > Great Story Doug A. it is enlightening, one basic problem we have with > yeast, is it is not gained any popularity with research, I am reading > during the last six months, niacin, B3, and tamoxifen are yeast killers. > The only other yeast killer is an IV administered drug, that is given > several days running. Everything else including the script drugs relies > on the immune system finishing the job, but " what about us who have a > comprimised immune system " ? > For whateverr reason, my dosage of three Betaine HCL, is inferior, if I > take four Betaine HCL, thats 2500mgs of sugar beet HCL, I rock, anything > less and I just get by. > I do read HCL is anti yeast. Anywho, I also take LDN, which is my life > saver, very inexpensive. > I have this very strong gut feeling, if the sick, lame and lazy were to > ensure there digestive tract was functioning properly. > ie no yeast, good digestion, we would have less of them, including myself. > I will agree with you, in regards to leukemia being fungal based, and most > likely some cancers as well. > I have some HCL on the way, one to five hundred, and lidocaine, will load > up w/ HCL and see what happens. > I am not skilled to IV, but can go sub q on myself. > Maybe an eight day run, with vitamin C, and HCL could knock this leukemia > out. Then on the other hand, that is the left, my health is pretty good at > the moment. > I played eighteen holes of golf, then rested a couple hours and went > dancing from eight to midnight, I laid out one of every three dances, but > do git with it when I do dance. > My favorite is the triple two step, and it is a mover. > stay vertical, david lubbock tx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2011 Report Share Posted April 10, 2011 By trial and error, I recently added in a fat digesting enzyme, chocacol, I think it is called. At the time I thought, why? But within the first dose, I could tell me endurance level was marketly improved, so much so, that after the first dosage, actually doubled up there, I knew. I see no reason to grow old gracefully, when there are digestive aids to improve my well being. To play a game, " what if " aging is nothing more than not being capable of digesting your food? Of course that seems to simplistic, For me it is also strange that I crave salad, corn, green beans, yummy, instead of ice cream, chocolate and sugar foods. I still have half filled bottles of anti depressants I can look at. Wellbutrim, efffexor, stablon and provigil, that kept me going during the darker hours. na mere for me. I am simply awed at my discovery, at least for me, it is working marvels. I do of course take LDN, Testosterone and HCG, which eliminated my ED. I have cialis, but not a four hour problem. LOL BTW, lactic acid build up does not seem to be a problem, after different physical activites, ie like dancing an extended period, yes it was great to rest up saturday, but no soreness to speak of. Oh well, I am preaching to the choir, GS, you and your wife are the picture of health, press on. david lubbock tx, stay vertical Re: Hydrochloric Acid > > > Great idea, Doug, no reason HCL cannot be used with DMSO as a carrier, > > unless the HCL molecule is too large to be carried inside and > through the > > skin. Muscle builders use yohimbe HCL, so most likely HCL can be > used the > > same. I have used DMSO and tagamet made into a paste w/ water tag is > very > > water soluble, then diluted with a couple tablespoons of DMSO to > carry it > > into skin cancer, gets rid of basal cell, squamous cell, it won't > work for > > melanoma, or so I am told. Cimentidine the chemical in tagamet, must do > > the trick, or perhaps it is the alkalizing factor???? > > > > Vitamin C, lipo was used by a dairy farmer from New Zealand to cure his > > leukemia. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2011 Report Share Posted April 10, 2011 Doug, great idea on both counts, filter, and dilute, will do. I have access to hepa filters, a little mod and they will work. I also can made bacteriastatic water, ready to rock. david lubbock tx. Re: Hydrochloric Acid > Great Story Doug A. it is enlightening, one basic problem we have with > yeast, is it is not gained any popularity with research, I am reading > during the last six months, niacin, B3, and tamoxifen are yeast killers. > The only other yeast killer is an IV administered drug, that is given > several days running. Everything else including the script drugs relies > on the immune system finishing the job, but " what about us who have a > comprimised immune system " ? > For whateverr reason, my dosage of three Betaine HCL, is inferior, if I > take four Betaine HCL, thats 2500mgs of sugar beet HCL, I rock, anything > less and I just get by. > I do read HCL is anti yeast. Anywho, I also take LDN, which is my life > saver, very inexpensive. > I have this very strong gut feeling, if the sick, lame and lazy were to > ensure there digestive tract was functioning properly. > ie no yeast, good digestion, we would have less of them, including myself. > I will agree with you, in regards to leukemia being fungal based, and most > likely some cancers as well. > I have some HCL on the way, one to five hundred, and lidocaine, will load > up w/ HCL and see what happens. > I am not skilled to IV, but can go sub q on myself. > Maybe an eight day run, with vitamin C, and HCL could knock this leukemia > out. Then on the other hand, that is the left, my health is pretty good at > the moment. > I played eighteen holes of golf, then rested a couple hours and went > dancing from eight to midnight, I laid out one of every three dances, but > do git with it when I do dance. > My favorite is the triple two step, and it is a mover. > stay vertical, david lubbock tx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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