Guest guest Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 You cannot overdose Vit D when you get it from the sun. What you can overdose on is man-made Vit D supplements. > > > > >>> Gerry, I really hope that all this wont be so bad as > > > > >>> you are describing. You could be right with all this. > > > > >>> Much depends on ourselfs. When we are not > > > > >>> willing to accept . . . > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Matthias > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Am 11.12.2010 17:23, schrieb Gerry Simpkins: > > > > >>>> Matthias, > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Our intention as seniors is to avoid them except in the most dire > > > > >>>> situations. We are 68 and 65 respectively, and we take no meds > > > whether > > > > >>>> prescription or over-the counter. We have both been on a 20 year > > > > >>>> learning journey about many things. Proper nourishment and > > > alternative > > > > >>>> health care are only two of them. I dread the day when I have > > > to go in > > > > >>>> to one after the so-called national health care plan goes into > > > effect. > > > > >>>> I suspect that somewhere down the road, all who go to a > > > hospital will > > > > >> be > > > > >>>> checked to see if they have had all of the politically correct > > > > >>>> vaccines. Those who have not done so, will be forced to take a > > > battery > > > > >>>> of vaccinations before they can be treated. I would be quite > > > surprised > > > > >>>> if that does not happen. Those who do not seriously take their > > > health > > > > >>>> care into their own hands are playing russian roulette with their > > > > >>>> chances of living to a healthy old age. Sadly, most will not > > > because it > > > > >>>> requires one to do something, like learn and expend some > > > effort. So I > > > > >>>> fear that the dismal hospital death-per-patient stats will > > only get > > > > >>> worse. > > > > >>>> Gerry > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 I believe that is correct, that you can only OD from oral vit D. Before you would be in danger of OD on vit D from the sun, you would be sunburned, or your skin would turn so dark as to prevent the buildup of vit D to be too excessive. For me, it is just a wintertime thing as i am outdoors every day in warmer weather and not as much in winter. > > You cannot overdose Vit D when you get it from the sun. What you can > overdose on is man-made Vit D supplements. > > > > > > > > > >>> Gerry, I really hope that all this wont be so bad as > > > > > >>> you are describing. You could be right with all this. > > > > > >>> Much depends on ourselfs. When we are not > > > > > >>> willing to accept . . . > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Matthias > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Am 11.12.2010 17:23, schrieb Gerry Simpkins: > > > > > >>>> Matthias, > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Our intention as seniors is to avoid them except in the > most dire > > > > > >>>> situations. We are 68 and 65 respectively, and we take no > meds > > > > whether > > > > > >>>> prescription or over-the counter. We have both been on a > 20 year > > > > > >>>> learning journey about many things. Proper nourishment and > > > > alternative > > > > > >>>> health care are only two of them. I dread the day when I have > > > > to go in > > > > > >>>> to one after the so-called national health care plan goes > into > > > > effect. > > > > > >>>> I suspect that somewhere down the road, all who go to a > > > > hospital will > > > > > >> be > > > > > >>>> checked to see if they have had all of the politically > correct > > > > > >>>> vaccines. Those who have not done so, will be forced to > take a > > > > battery > > > > > >>>> of vaccinations before they can be treated. I would be quite > > > > surprised > > > > > >>>> if that does not happen. Those who do not seriously take > their > > > > health > > > > > >>>> care into their own hands are playing russian roulette > with their > > > > > >>>> chances of living to a healthy old age. Sadly, most will not > > > > because it > > > > > >>>> requires one to do something, like learn and expend some > > > > effort. So I > > > > > >>>> fear that the dismal hospital death-per-patient stats will > > > only get > > > > > >>> worse. > > > > > >>>> Gerry > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 The best form of calcium I've been told is [organic] eggs. Or better yet.backyard, organic eggs. You take the freshly squeezed juice of lemons (preferably organic) and let an egg or two sit in them and the juice starts to fizz and break down the calcium from the egg shell. After a day or two you'll wind up with eggs and their membrane intact but all the calcium/shell removed. You simply shake this up (put it in a smoothy etc.) and it's that easy. Recommended amount is 2 tablespoons a day. _____ From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of GREENAMYER Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 8:46 AM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: Re: leukemia, assist calcium uptake For the best uptake of calcium, you need a form that can be easily digested. There is disagreement on which is the best form of calcium for this need. In all cases, there are a couple other things needed to assist the uptake of the calcium. D3 is needed but an overdose of D3 can cause calcium to be taken from the bones. there must be enough calcium taken to provide what is needed to go along with the D3 dose. In addition, to assist and regulate the calcium absorption, you also need phosphorus and Vitamin A. There are products which have the correct amounts of each to provide the best absorption of calcium. > >>> Gerry, I really hope that all this wont be so bad as > >>> you are describing. You could be right with all this. > >>> Much depends on ourselfs. When we are not > >>> willing to accept . . . > >>> > >>> Matthias > >>> > >>> Am 11.12.2010 17:23, schrieb Gerry Simpkins: > >>>> Matthias, > >>>> > >>>> Our intention as seniors is to avoid them except in the most dire > >>>> situations. We are 68 and 65 respectively, and we take no meds whether > >>>> prescription or over-the counter. We have both been on a 20 year > >>>> learning journey about many things. Proper nourishment and alternative > >>>> health care are only two of them. I dread the day when I have to go in > >>>> to one after the so-called national health care plan goes into effect. > >>>> I suspect that somewhere down the road, all who go to a hospital will > >> be > >>>> checked to see if they have had all of the politically correct > >>>> vaccines. Those who have not done so, will be forced to take a battery > >>>> of vaccinations before they can be treated. I would be quite surprised > >>>> if that does not happen. Those who do not seriously take their health > >>>> care into their own hands are playing russian roulette with their > >>>> chances of living to a healthy old age. Sadly, most will not because it > >>>> requires one to do something, like learn and expend some effort. So I > >>>> fear that the dismal hospital death-per-patient stats will only get > >>> worse. > >>>> Gerry > >>>> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 We raise chooks for our fresh eggs. I have taken our shells and ground them up real fine to a powder consistency and sprinkled on oatmeal. Can also be sprinkled on stew and other preparations. Not sure of the absorption rate, but am sure that it is healthy, if a bit gritty at times. Most shells get recycled into the garden to replace minerals lost to production of our veggies. Gerry > > The best form of calcium I've been told is [organic] eggs. Or better > yet.backyard, organic eggs. You take the freshly squeezed juice of lemons > (preferably organic) and let an egg or two sit in them and the juice > starts > to fizz and break down the calcium from the egg shell. After a day or two > you'll wind up with eggs and their membrane intact but all the > calcium/shell > removed. You simply shake this up (put it in a smoothy etc.) and it's that > easy. Recommended amount is 2 tablespoons a day. > > > > _____ > > From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of GREENAMYER > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 8:46 AM > To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: leukemia, assist calcium uptake > > For the best uptake of calcium, you need a form that can be easily > digested. > There is disagreement on which is the best form of calcium for this > need. In > all cases, there are a couple other things needed to assist the uptake of > the calcium. D3 is needed but an overdose of D3 can cause calcium to be > taken from the bones. there must be enough calcium taken to provide > what is > needed to go along with the D3 dose. In addition, to assist and > regulate the > calcium absorption, you also need phosphorus and Vitamin A. There are > products which have the correct amounts of each to provide the best > absorption of calcium. > > > > > > >>> Gerry, I really hope that all this wont be so bad as > > >>> you are describing. You could be right with all this. > > >>> Much depends on ourselfs. When we are not > > >>> willing to accept . . . > > >>> > > >>> Matthias > > >>> > > >>> Am 11.12.2010 17:23, schrieb Gerry Simpkins: > > >>>> Matthias, > > >>>> > > >>>> Our intention as seniors is to avoid them except in the most dire > > >>>> situations. We are 68 and 65 respectively, and we take no meds > whether > > >>>> prescription or over-the counter. We have both been on a 20 year > > >>>> learning journey about many things. Proper nourishment and > alternative > > >>>> health care are only two of them. I dread the day when I have to go > in > > >>>> to one after the so-called national health care plan goes into > effect. > > >>>> I suspect that somewhere down the road, all who go to a > hospital will > > >> be > > >>>> checked to see if they have had all of the politically correct > > >>>> vaccines. Those who have not done so, will be forced to take a > battery > > >>>> of vaccinations before they can be treated. I would be quite > surprised > > >>>> if that does not happen. Those who do not seriously take their > health > > >>>> care into their own hands are playing russian roulette with their > > >>>> chances of living to a healthy old age. Sadly, most will not > because > it > > >>>> requires one to do something, like learn and expend some > effort. So I > > >>>> fear that the dismal hospital death-per-patient stats will only get > > >>> worse. > > >>>> Gerry > > >>>> > > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 Unfortunately, the skin dockters are highly vocalizing the use of sun protectant, avoid the sun, for fear of skin cancer. In my Dermo Office, there are shoulder high posters in every room, disparaging sunshine. Most likely there are fewer minor skin cancers, but far more serious cancers, I grew up in the love generation, sixties, we got lots of sun and sun lotion was mostly to moisturize and did not block out Vitamin D and the associated good feeling of well being that also comes from sunshine. The amount of anti depressants sold is tenfold. These days cancer, osteoporosis may have doubled, tripled, certainly if I can find a cure, tagamet, for skin cancer, it seems obviously there is a problem in the system. In my single opinion, we have far too many specialists, who ruminate in their limited box of knowledge, and attempt to follow reems of rulez, and end up discovering very little for dollars spent. Our government nutritional/dietary folks are a joke, bullcrap RDA, ouch, allowing themselves to be manipulated by business as usual. The biggest travesty is our school lunch program. We not only feed our little guys crap, but we are teaching them very poor eating habits. Some how our medical oath, " do not harm " , has a more true meaning, I will do nothing that will possibly cause me to be sued by some ambulance chasing attorney. Which puts the " power of decision " in the hands of Insurance companies who's only obligation is to make money. stay vertical, david a. > > > You cannot overdose Vit D when you get it from the sun. What you can > overdose on is man-made Vit D supplements. > > > > > > > > > > >>> Gerry, I really hope that all this wont be so bad as > > > > > >>> you are describing. You could be right with all this. > > > > > >>> Much depends on ourselfs. When we are not > > > > > >>> willing to accept . . . > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Matthias > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Am 11.12.2010 17:23, schrieb Gerry Simpkins: > > > > > >>>> Matthias, > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Our intention as seniors is to avoid them except in the most > dire > > > > > >>>> situations. We are 68 and 65 respectively, and we take no meds > > > > whether > > > > > >>>> prescription or over-the counter. We have both been on a 20 > year > > > > > >>>> learning journey about many things. Proper nourishment and > > > > alternative > > > > > >>>> health care are only two of them. I dread the day when I have > > > > to go in > > > > > >>>> to one after the so-called national health care plan goes into > > > > effect. > > > > > >>>> I suspect that somewhere down the road, all who go to a > > > > hospital will > > > > > >> be > > > > > >>>> checked to see if they have had all of the politically correct > > > > > >>>> vaccines. Those who have not done so, will be forced to take a > > > > battery > > > > > >>>> of vaccinations before they can be treated. I would be quite > > > > surprised > > > > > >>>> if that does not happen. Those who do not seriously take their > > > > health > > > > > >>>> care into their own hands are playing russian roulette with > their > > > > > >>>> chances of living to a healthy old age. Sadly, most will not > > > > because it > > > > > >>>> requires one to do something, like learn and expend some > > > > effort. So I > > > > > >>>> fear that the dismal hospital death-per-patient stats will > > > only get > > > > > >>> worse. > > > > > >>>> Gerry > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Here is a perspective on vitamin D and its relationship to cholesterol. Taking high amounts of vitamin D do us no good if we don't consume animal cholesterol. Being cholesterol deficient could be the reason why one can overdose on vitamin D (which really is a hormone and not a vitamin). http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Vitamin-D.html Masterson, the author, is well respected in the Weston A. Price community. Joan > > > > >>> Gerry, I really hope that all this wont be so bad as > > > > >>> you are describing. You could be right with all this. > > > > >>> Much depends on ourselfs. When we are not > > > > >>> willing to accept . . . > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Matthias > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Am 11.12.2010 17:23, schrieb Gerry Simpkins: > > > > >>>> Matthias, > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Our intention as seniors is to avoid them except in the most dire > > > > >>>> situations. We are 68 and 65 respectively, and we take no meds > > > whether > > > > >>>> prescription or over-the counter. We have both been on a 20 year > > > > >>>> learning journey about many things. Proper nourishment and > > > alternative > > > > >>>> health care are only two of them. I dread the day when I have > > > to go in > > > > >>>> to one after the so-called national health care plan goes into > > > effect. > > > > >>>> I suspect that somewhere down the road, all who go to a > > > hospital will > > > > >> be > > > > >>>> checked to see if they have had all of the politically correct > > > > >>>> vaccines. Those who have not done so, will be forced to take a > > > battery > > > > >>>> of vaccinations before they can be treated. I would be quite > > > surprised > > > > >>>> if that does not happen. Those who do not seriously take their > > > health > > > > >>>> care into their own hands are playing russian roulette with their > > > > >>>> chances of living to a healthy old age. Sadly, most will not > > > because it > > > > >>>> requires one to do something, like learn and expend some > > > effort. So I > > > > >>>> fear that the dismal hospital death-per-patient stats will > > only get > > > > >>> worse. > > > > >>>> Gerry > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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