Re: Patient blackmail a doctor for drugs

[Guest guest]

So, if any of you trained in NYC, Chicago or Philly, you were probably taught, as was I, to always place yourself between the patient and the door. Over the years I would say IMP dom has gotten me in less threatening and dangerous situations. At Indian health it just wasn't a typical day if someone didn't cuss me out and try to get me fired by reporting me the the tribal council. Working for a hospital, was more protected but a female private practice OB doctor was stalked by a disgrunted female patient, who was finally arrested with a gun outside the office. She got sent to prison.

When I worked for Planned parenthood, that was when the first doctor was shot and killed for doing abortions, from then on I was on a watch list with the local police and FBI, and got met at the door with a flack jacket to wear when I was there. One night after midnight the police are beating on my door to warn me about a death threat to local doctors, and did I know what the barrel in the field next door had in it, and how long it had been there? Bomb making fertilizer missing, coinciding with the threat. I wasn't even working for PP anymore! So much for the accuracy and current state of their list.

First year in IMP, had a multi tatto'd patient come in looking for Rx for medical marijuana, and talking about all the doctor's he had sued in the past, I refused and fired him.

The point is, most of these people are just threatening, and blowing steam, but you will never know which. So be safe, file a report with the cops, or your local medical association. And anyone trying to threaten you with poor reviews, all these website things, even ebay, and Craigs list have standards, that are not to be broken, and you can and should report people, because they will get kicked off the list. Don't take crap from people, but protect yourself.

And by all mean's carry insurance on your site of work, for not just slip and fall suing, but being sued by disgruntled employees, etc, and don't forget those pesky meteorites!

Cote' MD RE: Re: Patient blackmail a doctor for drugs

Back when I was in Syracuse I had an ex-con show up with a gun looking for me after I refused to give him narcotics. It was pretty funny, coworkers where scared and the hospital assigned me 2 body guards until the guy was apprehended (2 days), they took their job very seriously I assumed they watched to many movies and were calling me the “principal†(Principal leaving the building, principal entering office and the likes on their walkie-talkies.

It was kind of sad because the guy had been in jail for years and I believed that he just could not function in the outside and wanted back in.

The best part was when I slipped my body guards and the whole hospital when into lockdown looking for me (I was doing a sigmoidoscopy). The hospital was on edge at that time because some guy tried to finished off his wife that was in rehab after he tried to choke her and gave her anoxic brain damage; he slipped into the hospital dressed like a doctor and tried to inject poison into her IV and was caught just in time by the staff.

Crazy times,

José from The Barrio

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of wenmingtsengSent: Friday, January 22, 2010 12:10 PMTo: Subject: Re: Patient blackmail a doctor for drugs

I had a patient who almost hit me when I refuse to give narcotics. Ben Chan> >> > Anyone actually had a patient attempt to blackmail you with the threat of giving you a negative review on the internet if you don't give them a medication that they want. And they refuse to go for psychiatric evaluation and what they want is, say, adderall or something. I mean a new patient that you have never seen before. We just had that happen.> > Wayne Coghill> > Practice Manager> > Midtown Primary Care> > www.doctorcoghill.com> >>

[Guest guest]

We had best get used to this stuff.

I just wrote Angie's List a rejection of their sales pitch saying I didn't have any interest in what the more emotionally frail members of my community had to say about the small businesses in my community. Over time we will learn as a country to give these unreviewed reports their proper value....nothing.

Joanne Holland DVM/MD Drain, Oregon.

Subject: Patient blackmail a doctor for drugsTo: "Practice Improvements" < >Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 11:06 AM

Anyone actually had a patient attempt to blackmail you with the threat of giving you a negative review on the internet if you don't give them a medication that they want. And they refuse to go for psychiatric evaluation and what they want is, say, adderall or something. I mean a new patient that you have never seen before. We just had that happen. Wayne CoghillPractice ManagerMidtown Primary Carewww.doctorcoghill. com

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, I really need to tell hyou the horror story we went through, but I dont want to put it in writng on the internet. But its a true story. Wayne CoghillPractice ManagerMidtown Primary Carewww.doctorcoghill.com

To: Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 12:28:49 PMSubject: Re: Re: Patient blackmail a doctor for drugs

Wayne,

By going to cops and quick as well as perhaps the fed's ala DEA you one cover yours and your sister's butt in the entire situation, and you may just be part of a larger shake down that this guy and others are in the midst of... You were probably just randomly picked out of the phonebook or the insurance carrier's website...

It may even be an idle threat just in an attempt to get your sister to write the Rx, and nothing more. On that note the other day we found a very upsetting message on our answering machine from an upet, neglegant father who now is in an up roar over his son's congenital condition as though we may have had anything to do with that. He was threatening all sorts of things... At least a month or two later and still not a thing in the mail... He was almost certainly blowing smoke out his tush because he feels useless and shameful about his son and is lashing out at one of the few people within striking range... People say all sorts of upsetting garbage either out of frustration or in an attempt to manipulate the doctor or their staff in doing what they want... Seen it all too often and goodness knows in NYC, I'm sure you are surrounded by such con artists and hair triggers... I know we grew up downstate in Da Bronx...

Lastly, contact the carrier thru provider relationship and see if their is a pattern there as well and see if he ever did file a complaint and see if they won't remove it because of his rediculous and threatening, demanding behavior.... Just goes to show, how even these well intentioned systems of customer ratings and the like can be so subjective and manipulated, no less used against good people with good ethical behavior as they try not to give patients treatments or drugs they don't need, are harmful, useless (antibiotics for a virus comes to mind) or in your case drug seeking... Oh and try the local Medical Society because here in our state they send out the updates and warnings, and again perhaps there is a trend here, and all docs in your area can be on the lookout for these bozos....

Anyway this way you are covered and have gotten ahead of the situation, alerted the cops to this and covered you butts... Good Luck buddy...

To: Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 12:10:19 PMSubject: Re: Patient blackmail a doctor for drugs

I had a patient who almost hit me when I refuse to give narcotics. Ben Chan> >> > Anyone actually had a patient attempt to blackmail you with the threat of giving you a negative review on the internet if you don't give them a medication that they want. And they refuse to go for psychiatric evaluation and what they want is, say, adderall or something. I mean a new patient that you have never seen before. We just had that happen.> > Wayne Coghill> > Practice Manager> > Midtown Primary Care> > www.doctorcoghill. com>

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[Guest guest]

Well, if we all decide primary care isn't worth it anymore, at least we should be able to sell the rights to a good TV drama.....

Sharon

[Guest guest]

OR A COMEDY SHOW.

peace

grace

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> Well, if we all decide primary care isn't worth it anymore, at least we

> should be able to sell the rights to a good TV drama.....

> Sharon

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[Guest guest]

True.  Like MASH, a good tragedy is right on the edge of comedy.

Sharon McCoy MDRenaissance Family MedicineIrvine, CAwww.SharonMD.com

 

OR A COMEDY SHOW.peacegrace

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> Well, if we all decide primary care isn't worth it anymore, at least we> should be able to sell the rights to a good TV drama.....> Sharon>

[Guest guest]

ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS

is for medicine to be like HOUSE:

where doctors know everything and do everything, and anything, and not get in

trouble!!!!

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> > > Well, if we all decide primary care isn't worth it anymore, at least we

> > > should be able to sell the rights to a good TV drama.....

> > > Sharon

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[Guest guest]

Saving voicemails.

With EMR's and digital voicemails -- it's easier than ever to save these in the EMR for future reference.

Pretty cool.

 

Locke, MD

 

Well, she was amazingly abusive to my receptionist, and to me, we are saving a message on voicemail just in case. I told her any rx I prescribed is based on my clinical judgement, and not on patient or mother demand. period. (this was after prolonged yelling on her part). Her son is 19, and probably violated his parole, and was seeking a cover for his next random drug screening. -- T. Ellsworth, MD9377 E. Bell Road, Suite 175sdale, AZ 85260

---- wrote: > so- how did you handle that mother? Good grief.> > >

> > > > >> >> > Yes I recently had a mother threaten to report me to the board on a fake

> > charge if I did not give her son a prescription for narcotic cough medicine.> > Her son was on probation with randon drug screenings for narcotic arrest.> > His exam was wheezing and he needed albuterol not codeine.

> > --> > T. Ellsworth, MD> > 9377 E. Bell Road, Suite 175> > sdale, AZ 85260> > > >

> > ---- rgms01@... <rgms01%40verizon.net> wrote:> > > >

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