Re: Ankle Edema

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Best to wear compression hose while flying - that can blow up the most

reilient ankles - wear pressure hose until they are normal & train them that

way - that works for me.

A little rebounding might help, exercise to help the venous return -

rotating ankles, standing in the kitchen or wherever and raising on to the

toes & gently squatting a little while you work all encourages the venous

return. (Exercise bike)

Sitting at your desk & taking the heel off the ground as high as you can -

all these little movements stop potential stasis.

(I haven't looked at other responses could be repeating things here)

Best,

Jane

Ankle Edema

>I am looking for ideas on how to treat and prevent my ankles from

> swelling. I have compressed

> with DMSO and peppermint oil for two days but I still can not spend much

> time vertical or the

> edema develops to the point that they ache. Also looks awful and must be

> trying to tell me

> something.

>

> I had been flying and perhaps not drinking enough water. Also doing

> massive MSM and

> Glucosamine HCl / Chondroiton Sulfate for my hip, that I over stretched

> back in January

> while moving, chronic inflammation reaction there, sometimes hurts down

> to my toes, so

> Sciatica developed. I have been using also Bosweillia, Quercetin,

> Bromelain, and my range

> of high B6, B Complex, Mg, Zinc Picolinate, Taurine which I take for

> Pyrroluria symptoms.

>

> I ate a ton of raw oysters last two weeks in New Orleans, too hard to

> resist, which are high

> in Zn so laid off the Zn Picolinate.

>

> Took a Sulfur 10M cause I figured I am that type, last Friday, and have

> otherwise been a

> bit stressed but nothing over the top. Just busy.

>

> Any ideas are appreciated!!

>

> Janet

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> >I am looking for ideas on how to treat and prevent my ankles from

> >swelling

You probably have tried this, but just in case: have you soaked them

in epsom salt and warm water?

Mara

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jayne, I think you could be onto something, although I have not had

the edema before and my diet is the same, I must have changed something.

I have started taking high dose MSM for my hip, and that may have mobilized

toxins, it gave me a bad headache the first few days because I was taking

5 T a day, then 3 T and lowered to 4t after a couple days of severe headaches.

But I had to get the inflammation down in my hip to be able to work, it was

really

bothering me. I also took high doses of Glucosamine HCl and Chondroiton

Sulfate, for a few weeks.

I am now off all supps for a week or two, but the edema is persisting. I did

start

taking a low dose of Spanish Needles and a Lymph Tonic. Spanish Needles,

Bidens bipannita, is a kidney tonic, diuretic and antiallergen.

I seem to digest well, but I do think it could be improved and with all the B's

and other supps that I try to maintain most of the time I should do whatever I

can

to make them more effective.

I suspect the chronic inflammation from my hip has led to the ankle edema,

along with the flying, lots of driving and just not sleeping regularly on a good

consistent schedule.

Living too fast . . .

Thanks to everyone who has suggested ideas to me. I appreciate them all and

will work on this over the next week or so.

I want to do another liver cleanse and a kidney cleanse as well. The liver

cleanse I did in December definitely helped my shoulder pain but I am still

struggling with weight, so the HCl and pepsin is resonating as well as the

further liver cleansing, which I know I need to do once a month until I get

all of the stones out.

Janet

2d. Re: Ankle Edema

Posted by: " jaynelcrocker " jaynelcrocker@... jaynecrocker64

Date: Fri May 13, 2011 8:51 am ((PDT))

Janet,

I could well be due to you not absorbing protein and suffer from

Hypochlorydria. I had the same problem when I was in hospital and that was

with my legs up on the bed. However my diet has always been high in protein

which led to my partner researching and finding Betaine HCL with pepsin

which aids the digestion of protein, fats, carbs and starches. Remember,

you can't absorb what you can't digest. Having taken this supplement prior

to my meals and a digestive enzyme with my meal I no longer have this really

uncomfortable swelling around the ankles.

I have been bedridden these last couple of months and I got 'lazy' with my

supplements and went a week without taking them. The result? Back to very

swollen feet/ankles so I've immediately went and got a pill box for a week

to put all my supplements in for 7 days and 3 days later - no swelling

around the ankles/feet.

One of the most deleterious results of hypochlorhydria is our inability to

assimilate B complex vitamins. (Vitamins serve as coenzymes. A deficiency of

vitamins, especially B vitamins, means that many enzymes cannot and will not

work. Enzymes are required for every bodily function necessary to keep us

alive. [5])

Hypothyroidism: To function properly the thyroid needs sufficient B vitamins

especially B2, B3 and B6, and minerals -- especially iodine, zinc, selenium,

magnesium, copper and molybdenum, essential fatty acids and the amino acid

Tyrosine. [6] Because my diet and supplements contain all that's needed to

maintain a healthy blood sugar and thyroid (after a year on betaine 1101

with pepsin and enterically coated pancreatic enzymes), I no longer feel

hypoglycemic and I no longer need thyroid medication.

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tent%3Bcol1

Please read this link

http://www.charlespoliquin.com/ArticlesMultimedia/Articles/Article/27/Maximi

ze_Your_Progress_with_Hydrochloric_Acid.aspx

However, you do have to find the right dose for you. I now use Drs Best

Betaine HCL with pepsin and Gentian bitters

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doctors-Best-Betaine-Gentian-Bitters/dp/B000NRTXGW I

have been taking these since October and as a result of being able to absorb

and digest my food, I have lost 20lbs as a result. You may also find you

are not actually absorbing what supplements you are taking either. Once you

correct your stomach acid, you may find you won't need to take as many

supplements.

This is also likely due to low stomach acid where one can get so many

ailments from. Here's an interesting link for you to read (quite indepth

with various linkshttp://www.medicalinsider.com/digestion.html#insufficient

Jayne Crocker

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Asparagus? Kewl!!

I love the stuff and it is in season, it does make me pee so must be a diuretic.

Prolly should eat more watermelon too.

Thanks for the excuse to indulge my love for Asparagus in any form. My BF

just gave me a jar of pickled A. and I could eat roasted or grilled A. anytime

of the day.

My ankles are improving with the Lymphatonic and eating more fruit for the

potassium, also drinking more water and my kefir water.

Thanks to all and to Jane for the exercise ideas, I do sit at the computer

a lot. Supp hose are something I should do while standing at work so will

have to look for those today while out shopping.

Garnet

Re: Ankle Edema

Posted by: " bryanfm79925 " bryanfm79925@... bryanfm79925

Date: Wed May 18, 2011 6:52 am ((PDT))

Janet,

This is what we used to treat my dad's edema. Asparagus. That's it.

He would eat a few ounces (6-8) every day. When he skipped a couple of days,

the edema would start to return. My sister, who is an RN, got the information

when she was a traveling nurse in Tennessee. I really works. Now, mix up how

you eat it, they do not have to be raw every time you eat them.

Good Luck,

[Guest guest]

I eat Real Salt -- what is your opinion of that. It is pink so I assume it

has a good amount of Iodine in it?

I am not doing anything for Thyroid at all but when tested ten years

ago he said if anything I am a bit hyper, although weight gain has

been a real problem for the past three years. Course chocolate

and brie don't help!<grin>

Coffee enemas is something I need to make more time for. I do

them a few times a year. Liver cleanse is on the list for next week

too.

Thanks and good to see you on the list Linsey!

Garnet

Ankle Edema

Posted by: " Biochemist " vitamail@... linsey313

Date: Tue May 17, 2011 8:13 am ((PDT))

Hello Garnet,

I have had that myself as also several of my clients....I would not back off the

iodine at all, but would increase the salt and also add coffee enemas several

times a day too....that can help wonders.

Linsey

[Guest guest]

caffeine was the culprit for me. Had to lay off the coffee and tea for several

days.

mike