Guest guest Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 There is a homeopath in Florida that cures heartworm and it isn't expensive Cheri <http://www.akcrallyobedience.com/> http://www.akcrallyobedience.com <http://www.ukcrallyobedience.com/> http://www.ukcrallyobedience.com The crew: <http://tinyurl.com/3295m6> http://tinyurl.com/3295m6 Holly CD RAE3 CGC CH Knight RN VSP CGC Fynn Angel Tripp CGC waiting at The Bridge " Step lightly on the Earth. Respect one another. " - Paladin CD RA CGC From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of whisperun@... Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 8:19 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: Guinness beer Hi all: I just bought a six pack. I chose the glass bottles brewed in Ireland, but there was another that was also in glass bottles and the label said extra stout, so I checked the bottle out and it said brewed in Canada. I am going to try this on some dogs. I opened a bottle and drank some myself.....YIKES!!! Bad tasting stuff, no chance of going overboard there!!! HA! At any rate, I will post the group any results I observe. I was particularly interested in the fact that it is supposed to kill heartworms. That could save a lot of dogs a horrible treatment and their owners a huge chunk of money. Many owners have their dog put down when it tests positive for heartworms since the treatment may be well beyond their financial means. Take care, Jolene whisperun In a message dated 5/19/2011 3:38:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, zzekelink@... <mailto:zzekelink%40aol.com> writes: In a message dated 5/19/2011 10:27:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, godisbest4me@... <mailto:godisbest4me%40yahoo.com> writes: How have you taken it and where do you get it? I have never heard of drinking beer for therapy. Least of all to fight parasites. All my learning is that beer contains the yeast that feeds parasites, candida and yeast. But what you say is a curve on this. Could it really be true? Not sure if it works for humans but along with the critters I helped myself to a bottle just in case.. :-) Lois Research papers for work ongoing in JAPAN.. They were testing The difference between Heart guard and Irish stout.. They were using guiness Black label stout. Now that is the difference.. The Glass bottles that are Black Label are Always imported from Ireland.. Those in cans or not the black label.. are Brewed in the states and we have inferior hops..Its a totally different variety of hops actually.. And we have lots more Pollution where our hops are grown, then where Guiness grows theirs.. (in an Sealed environment.Those in cans or not the black label.. are And the way they brew it over in Ireland is also better, slower, more hops And better water.. So that process is also important.. To use guiness its 1oz / 25lbs of dog First month, you dose first of month and then 2 wks later, from then on..Its just one dose every month. Unless you miss a month, then you start over Again. Correct one from Ireland. It HAS a black label, but doesn't say that. It is called Draught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 Here is the info on the vet in Florida Dr. Gerald Wessner 14402 S. Hwy 475 Summerfield FL United States Phone (http://www.holisticvetclinic.net/) If any of my dogs got heartworm, their homeopath would have me contact the Florida vet..and I trust their homeopath with their lives Cheri <http://www.akcrallyobedience.com/> http://www.akcrallyobedience.com <http://www.ukcrallyobedience.com/> http://www.ukcrallyobedience.com The crew: <http://tinyurl.com/3295m6> http://tinyurl.com/3295m6 Holly CD RAE3 CGC CH Knight RN VSP CGC Fynn Angel Tripp CGC waiting at The Bridge " Step lightly on the Earth. Respect one another. " - Paladin CD RA CGC From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of Cheri Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 8:56 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: RE: Guinness beer There is a homeopath in Florida that cures heartworm and it isn't expensive Cheri <http://www.akcrallyobedience.com/> http://www.akcrallyobedience.com <http://www.ukcrallyobedience.com/> http://www.ukcrallyobedience.com The crew: <http://tinyurl.com/3295m6> http://tinyurl.com/3295m6 Holly CD RAE3 CGC CH Knight RN VSP CGC Fynn Angel Tripp CGC waiting at The Bridge " Step lightly on the Earth. Respect one another. " - Paladin CD RA CGC From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of whisperun@... <mailto:whisperun%40aol.com> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 8:19 PM To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Guinness beer Hi all: I just bought a six pack. I chose the glass bottles brewed in Ireland, but there was another that was also in glass bottles and the label said extra stout, so I checked the bottle out and it said brewed in Canada. I am going to try this on some dogs. I opened a bottle and drank some myself.....YIKES!!! Bad tasting stuff, no chance of going overboard there!!! HA! At any rate, I will post the group any results I observe. I was particularly interested in the fact that it is supposed to kill heartworms. That could save a lot of dogs a horrible treatment and their owners a huge chunk of money. Many owners have their dog put down when it tests positive for heartworms since the treatment may be well beyond their financial means. Take care, Jolene whisperun In a message dated 5/19/2011 3:38:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, zzekelink@... <mailto:zzekelink%40aol.com> <mailto:zzekelink%40aol.com> writes: In a message dated 5/19/2011 10:27:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, godisbest4me@... <mailto:godisbest4me%40yahoo.com> <mailto:godisbest4me%40yahoo.com> writes: How have you taken it and where do you get it? I have never heard of drinking beer for therapy. Least of all to fight parasites. All my learning is that beer contains the yeast that feeds parasites, candida and yeast. But what you say is a curve on this. Could it really be true? Not sure if it works for humans but along with the critters I helped myself to a bottle just in case.. :-) Lois Research papers for work ongoing in JAPAN.. They were testing The difference between Heart guard and Irish stout.. They were using guiness Black label stout. Now that is the difference.. The Glass bottles that are Black Label are Always imported from Ireland.. Those in cans or not the black label.. are Brewed in the states and we have inferior hops..Its a totally different variety of hops actually.. And we have lots more Pollution where our hops are grown, then where Guiness grows theirs.. (in an Sealed environment.Those in cans or not the black label.. are And the way they brew it over in Ireland is also better, slower, more hops And better water.. So that process is also important.. To use guiness its 1oz / 25lbs of dog First month, you dose first of month and then 2 wks later, from then on..Its just one dose every month. Unless you miss a month, then you start over Again. Correct one from Ireland. It HAS a black label, but doesn't say that. It is called Draught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Here is more on the beer. This came from another source. Note that this has been popping up on several lists that I am on. cut and paste I will flatten (take the fizz out) of a bottle of Guinness black label Stout, that is what we use for wormer / heartworm preventative.. (it also Guards against the ticks and mosquito bites) Been using the beer for wormer for about 4.5 yrs.. A friend uses the *cheap Beer* to worm her dogs.. And has for years.. I forget what the ratio is on The cheap beer.. As I do not use that. I started researching.. And not realizing THEN that what I was finding on The net would NOT stay there, I just copied the links and not the pages..DUMB ME But I found in research papers for work ongoing in JAPAN.. They were testing The difference between Heart guard and Irish stout.. They were using guiness Black label stout. Now that is the difference.. The Glass bottles that are Black Label are Always imported from Ireland.. Those in cans or not the black label.. Are Brewed in the states and we have inferior hops.. Its a totally different variety of hops actually.. And we have lots more Pollution where our hops are grown, then where Guiness grows theirs.. (in an Sealed environment.. Pure air / water, and no pollution !! And the way they brew it over in Ireland is also better, slower, more hops And better water.. So that process is also important.. To use guiness its 1oz / 25lbs of dog. First month, you dose first of month and then 2 wks later, from then on.. Its just one dose every month. Unless you miss a month, then you start over Again. My friend that uses the cheap beer, yes she sees worms come out dead.. has never really had worms.. So I cant say that they killed what she Had.. But it Does prevent them.. And she also does not get heart worm. AND Even when exposed to the area that had it the heaviest 3 yrs ago.. And the Other dog with us that weekend.. Was on heartguard.. And DID get heartworm.. And did not.. Speaks volumes to me. As to getting rid of heartworm to those that test positive.. Have a vet tech Friend in Ohio.. She has used this to cure dogs that come in positive but Are too sick to take *traditional* meds to be rid of the heart worm.. That protocol is 1oz per 25lbs every 2 wks for 3 months.. A test to find out Where the dog stands.. If ONLY microfilea then the dog can go to once every Month as it will eventually kill off the microfilea.. IF however there are Still young worms in the body.. Then another 3 months of the protocol.. Usually at that end the dog is cured of the heartworm infestations.. And WELL and Healthy. The nicest thing about this is that .. The beer renders them sterile.. They Can not reproduce, it also stunts their growth, speeds their aging up.. AND They do not produce any toxin as they die.. Which is what happens when you Try to poison them.. They make the dog really sick and most times people Will stop the treatment to keep the dog alive.. And the heartworm lays Dormant and then comes back with vengence.. Only the black label imported (glass bottle) guiness stout.. Kills Heartworm.. The regular cheap beer wont.. Its been used successfully on 6 dogs in the past 3 yrs.. And the people were Very happy to get their dogs back.. The vet was not so happy, and he lost Money.. Oh well.. end of cut and paste > > Hi all: > > I just bought a six pack. I chose the glass bottles brewed in Ireland, > but there was another that was also in glass bottles and the label said extra > stout, so I checked the bottle out and it said brewed in Canada. > > I am going to try this on some dogs. I opened a bottle and drank some > myself.....YIKES!!! Bad tasting stuff, no chance of going overboard there!!! > HA! > > At any rate, I will post the group any results I observe. I was > particularly interested in the fact that it is supposed to kill heartworms. That > could save a lot of dogs a horrible treatment and their owners a huge chunk > of money. Many owners have their dog put down when it tests positive for > heartworms since the treatment may be well beyond their financial means. > > Take care, > Jolene > whisperun > > > In a message dated 5/19/2011 3:38:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > zzekelink@... writes: > > In a message dated 5/19/2011 10:27:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > godisbest4me@... writes: > > How have you taken it and where do you get it? I have never heard of > drinking > beer for therapy. Least of all to fight parasites. All my learning is that > > beer > contains the yeast that feeds parasites, candida and yeast. But what you > say is > a curve on this. Could it really be true? > Not sure if it works for humans but along with the critters I helped > myself to a bottle just in case.. :-) Lois Research papers for work > ongoing > in JAPAN.. They were testing The difference between Heart guard and Irish > stout.. They were using guiness Black label stout. Now that is the > difference.. The Glass bottles that are Black Label are Always imported > from > Ireland.. Those in cans or not the black label.. are Brewed in the > states and > we have inferior hops..Its a totally different variety of hops actually.. > And we have lots more Pollution where our hops are grown, then where > Guiness > grows theirs.. (in an Sealed environment.Those in cans or not the black > label.. are And the way they brew it over in Ireland is also better, > slower, more hops And better water.. So that process is also important.. > To > use guiness its 1oz / 25lbs of dog > > First month, you dose first of month and then 2 wks later, from then > on..Its just one dose every month. Unless you miss a month, then you > start over > Again. Correct one from Ireland. It HAS a black label, but doesn't > say that. It is called Draught. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Home Page: > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Books: > DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton > MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, NDYahoo! > Groups Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 Yeast is everywhere in the dog's environment, they can not avoid it. It is in their body, can not be eliminated totally, as it is a commensal, bodies are not sterile and do not function well when out of balance, which is the key.\ Yeast (and bacteria) are in the air, the dirt, on the grass they nibble, on fruit, on food, dog toys, bones, your hands, their paws, fur, etc. It is the state of this balanced and their immune system that determines if they get Candida or dysbiotic over-growth of any type. Sensitivity to toast points to a WHEAT sensitivity not yeast. A very common allergy in dogs and one that often manifests as skin and ear problems. Good reason to not feed wheat (or milk) products to dogs. Chicken and rice if you are feeding a kibble is better. Raw is good if done well, however most people do not feed a proper raw diet. Please discuss this on an appropriate list if you wish to go into more detail since this is not a raw feeding or dog feeding list. Garnet Re: Guinness beer Posted by: " Gerry Simpkins " gsim@... Date: Fri May 20, 2011 4:15 pm ((PDT)) Amen to this one. Dogs and cats cannot tolerate yeast. Beer is loaded with yeast. It is not their ancestral diet, being they are carnivores. We now have a dog with candida because we kept giving her toast and even at times marshmallows because she would squeak and dance for both. Sugars feed yeast, so once we had it started in her, we accelerated it by these fun snacks that she loved. Was not worth it, and we racked up some hefty vet bills along the way, but now we have it under control and she does not get the first scrap of anything containing either sugar or yeast. We deworm ours with black walnut tincture, wormwood herb, and ground cloves. Gerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 The Guinness beer is fine for dogs and is recommended on many other pet lists. I have no idea about cats. Things that are definitely dangerous for a dog are as follows: chocolate, cocoa, grapes, raisins, onions, macadamia nuts, Xylitol www.lyme-resource.com You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - > Re: Re: Guinness beer > > Amen to this one. Dogs and cats cannot tolerate yeast. Beer > is loaded with yeast. It is not their ancestral diet, being > they are carnivores. > We now have a dog with candida because we kept giving her > toast and even at times marshmallows because she would squeak > and dance for both. > Sugars feed yeast, so once we had it started in her, we > accelerated it by these fun snacks that she loved. Was not > worth it, and we racked up some hefty vet bills along the > way, but now we have it under control and she does not get > the first scrap of anything containing either sugar or yeast. > > We deworm ours with black walnut tincture, wormwood herb, and > ground cloves. > > Gerry > > > > > > > > > > Please DON'T!, You could end up killing the dog or WORSE!, > Destroying > > their kidneys! > > > > Dogs can't process certain human type foods (I won't name here). > > > > I found out the hard way when I let my little guys have > something we > > all eat every day, that wasn't known to be toxic to dogs > until about 5 > > years ago. > > > > I was a slow agonizing, expensive and heartbreaking process. > > > > They were in perfect health, The first one went undiagnosed > and died > > about 6 months later from chronic kidney failure, and the > second one, > > who had ingested much less, was diagnosed, put on a special > diet and > > hung on for another 4 years. > > > > I will never get over the guilt... > > > > > > > > > > Hi all: > > > > > > I just bought a six pack. I chose the glass bottles brewed in > > > Ireland, but there was another that was also in glass bottles and > > > the label > > said extra > > > stout, so I checked the bottle out and it said brewed in Canada. > > > > > > I am going to try this on some dogs. I opened a bottle and drank > > > some myself.....YIKES!!! Bad tasting stuff, no chance of going > > > overboard > > there!!! > > > HA! > > > > > > At any rate, I will post the group any results I observe. I was > > > particularly interested in the fact that it is supposed to kill > > heartworms. That > > > could save a lot of dogs a horrible treatment and their owners a > > huge chunk > > > of money. Many owners have their dog put down when it > tests positive > > for > > > heartworms since the treatment may be well beyond their > financial means. > > > > > > Take care, > > > Jolene > > > whisperun > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/19/2011 3:38:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > > zzekelink@... writes: > > > > > > In a message dated 5/19/2011 10:27:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > > godisbest4me@... writes: > > > > > > How have you taken it and where do you get it? I have > never heard of > > > drinking beer for therapy. Least of all to fight > parasites. All my > > > learning > > is that > > > > > > beer > > > contains the yeast that feeds parasites, candida and > yeast. But what > > you > > > say is > > > a curve on this. Could it really be true? > > > Not sure if it works for humans but along with the > critters I helped > > > myself to a bottle just in case.. :-) Lois Research > papers for work > > > ongoing in JAPAN.. They were testing The difference between Heart > > > guard and > > Irish > > > stout.. They were using guiness Black label stout. Now > that is the > > > difference.. The Glass bottles that are Black Label are Always > > > imported from Ireland.. Those in cans or not the black > label.. are > > > Brewed in the states and we have inferior hops..Its a totally > > > different variety of hops > > actually.. > > > And we have lots more Pollution where our hops are grown, > then where > > > Guiness grows theirs.. (in an Sealed environment.Those in cans or > > > not the black label.. are And the way they brew it over > in Ireland > > > is also better, slower, more hops And better water.. So > that process > > > is also > > important.. > > > To > > > use guiness its 1oz / 25lbs of dog > > > > > > First month, you dose first of month and then 2 wks > later, from then > > > on..Its just one dose every month. Unless you miss a > month, then you > > > start over Again. Correct one from Ireland. It HAS a black label, > > > but doesn't say that. It is called Draught. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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