Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Good post, Kirsty. Had not heard that about sea salt. We use for our food, but not for our dog. That is going to change. > > Re:< have spent many days crying at the thought that I might have to > put my best friend to sleep due to Arthritis. I just want to do the > best for him.> > > Hi Uly, I don't want to give any false hope, because I have no > personal experience at all in what you and your Chief are going thru, > but have a look at this website and see if you think it is something > worth trying: > http://www.watercure2.org/pet_testimonials.htm#archives > There are a number of good reports... > > regards > Kirsty > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Perhaps my experience with my brother's dogs will help you. Well, dogs and people. The nutshell is, they give Max a couple of Tablespoons of DMSO in an egg every other day. If they let it go 3-4 days, he can barely move. When it's every other day, he's playful and active. Max is an alaskan sled dog according to the vet. He was dumped at their house and eventually became part of the family. He used to run at least 30mph but he slowed down when his left (or was it right) front leg got injured when he got too close to a car. The vet wanted to amputate but there didn't seem to be a good reason and hope sprang eternal. (DMSO didn't restore the leg). For 4 years, with a gimpy leg, he still runs faster on 3 legs than the lab that's 8 years younger..and he's oh soooo pitiful with that paw on your lap. Very engaging dog, a little wild. Only since he's old does he come inside volunarily. We figure Max's problem is either some kind of infection or poison that's not out of his system yet (he eats stuff we don't know anything about) or just arthritis. Doesn't seem to have a hip problem. I started mixing Urea with DMSO per Herschler, J. et al to mitigate odor for my personal use (it works). Gave some of the Urea to my brother to use in Max's DMSO but they haven't gotten there yet so the garage stinks terribly on dose days. The dog is so active by the 2nd day the garage doesn't stink as much and if they let him go a 3rd day, it doesn't stink at all but the dog can barely get up and seems to be on his last leg. Per Herschler, J. et al Honey also mitigates DMSO odor but that has not been their experience with the dog. It may be that they need to mix the honey and dmso before they add the egg and cream to his tonic. Mixing all 4 ingredients at once doesn't do anything to decrease the smell. http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7790928.html Honey http://www.painease.com/files/10819413.pdf Urea http://www.dmsorollon.com/uspatent1.html Saralou - No medical advice here. Just exercising what's left of my 1st amendment rights as per 4:17. > > HI guys, > I'm new and just joined up DMSO yahoo group today. I have a 13 and a > Halve year old German Shepherd called Chief. The vet told me he has > Hip dysplasia and severe Arthritis in his back hips. > > As the months wore on I could tell he was getting worse so I have had > him on various natural products and changed his diet. I also had him > on Rimadyl for his pain. On Friday he would barely walk and couldn't > lay down properly. He looked like he was in pain and I thought it was > the day when I had to put him to sleep. I had been doing a lot of > reading lately on DMSO but was too scared to try it because of the > contradictory info I had read on it. I decided to try it because there > was nothing else to do but put him to sleep. > > I stopped the rimadyl and up his dose of msm to 2 teaspoons 3 times a > day. I brought a bottle of DMSO from a local Produce / Horse feed > supplement store. It is 99.9% pure DMSO in a plastic bottle. I then > shaved my Dogs fur around his Hip Joint, top of his back near his > spine and down to his ankle. It is not shaved to the skin but cropped > like a number 1 hair cut. > > I have been applying DMSO with some de-mineralised water in a Glass > bowl 3 times a day. I have been using those pink washing up gloves and > applying the DMSO with a 100% Cotton Pad. I have been applying it all > over his hip joints, lower back at the spine and down to his ankles. > As I am not 100% sure where all his pain is. > > Chief is also on MSM 2 teaspoons 3 times a day ( gradually built up > over 3 months), NZ Green Lipped Muscle 2 tabs twice a day, > Blackstrapped molasses 1 Table spoon twice a day. 1000mg of vit c > Twice a day, Ester c 1000mg Twice a day. Also a little Colloidal > Silver and a teaspoon of Apple cider vinegar in his dinner at night. > > Since Friday when He couldn't walk or even want to walk. His > personality has come back, he seems happy, he plays a bit laying down > on the floor, he is starting to walk around a bit more and last night > I heard him get up twice by himself to get water from his bowl (I have > had to bring him water, food and lift him up before Friday). He even > got up by himself today to beg when he heard I was getting some food > from the kitchen. He also stood up for awhile when he ate his > breakfast this morning. > > SO am I doing anything Wrong? Am I Doing the DMSO treatment right? I > have read so much negative and positive stuff on DMSO that I don't > know what to believe? > > I am planning to buy 70/30 DMSO from the Net If the DMSO starts to > work and I would also like to try The DMSO gel with Aloe Vera on Chief. > > Will I have to keep shaving my dogs Fur to apply the DMSO Or DMSO > Gel...He has such beautiful fur I would like him to grow it back in > the future. > > Anyone else had success with DMSO and Dogs? > > I have spent many days crying at the thought that I might have to put > my best friend to sleep due to Arthritis. I just want to do the best > for him. > > Cheers > > Uly > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Hi Uly, First of all, did the vet take xrays to make that diagnosis? Or did he just assume because of the symptoms? My beloved German Shepherd, named Boss, was assumed to have hip dysplasia common to the breed. So I did all the different protocols for arthritis which did nothing to help. He was on a steady decline. I finally insisted on xrays and his hips were perfectly clear. Vet said must be an injury to the spine that was not showing on the xray. After much internet searching, I came up with the diagnosis of multiple sclerosis which fit perfectly his declining pattern. I found this too late. He died only a week before his 9th birthday. He died way too young. The article said that dogs are often misdiagnosed with dysplasia that have this MS. Since your dog is 13 1/2 , it is more likely to be the dysplasia, but I would want xray confirmation. If it's truly dysplasia, then I would look into the Bradley arthritis protocol using CMO, glucosamine, chondroitin, and MSM (google it), as well as continue the DMSO. Good luck to you and your buddy. Pat ________________________________ To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Sent: Sun, February 6, 2011 2:13:30 AM Subject: DMSO And My German Shepherd?  HI guys, I'm new and just joined up DMSO yahoo group today. I have a 13 and a Halve year old German Shepherd called Chief. The vet told me he has Hip dysplasia and severe Arthritis in his back hips. As the months wore on I could tell he was getting worse so I have had him on various natural products and changed his diet. I also had him on Rimadyl for his pain. On Friday he would barely walk and couldn't lay down properly. He looked like he was in pain and I thought it was the day when I had to put him to sleep. I had been doing a lot of reading lately on DMSO but was too scared to try it because of the contradictory info I had read on it. I decided to try it because there was nothing else to do but put him to sleep. I stopped the rimadyl and up his dose of msm to 2 teaspoons 3 times a day. I brought a bottle of DMSO from a local Produce / Horse feed supplement store. It is 99.9% pure DMSO in a plastic bottle. I then shaved my Dogs fur around his Hip Joint, top of his back near his spine and down to his ankle. It is not shaved to the skin but cropped like a number 1 hair cut. I have been applying DMSO with some de-mineralised water in a Glass bowl 3 times a day. I have been using those pink washing up gloves and applying the DMSO with a 100% Cotton Pad. I have been applying it all over his hip joints, lower back at the spine and down to his ankles. As I am not 100% sure where all his pain is. Chief is also on MSM 2 teaspoons 3 times a day ( gradually built up over 3 months), NZ Green Lipped Muscle 2 tabs twice a day, Blackstrapped molasses 1 Table spoon twice a day. 1000mg of vit c Twice a day, Ester c 1000mg Twice a day. Also a little Colloidal Silver and a teaspoon of Apple cider vinegar in his dinner at night. Since Friday when He couldn't walk or even want to walk. His personality has come back, he seems happy, he plays a bit laying down on the floor, he is starting to walk around a bit more and last night I heard him get up twice by himself to get water from his bowl (I have had to bring him water, food and lift him up before Friday). He even got up by himself today to beg when he heard I was getting some food from the kitchen. He also stood up for awhile when he ate his breakfast this morning. SO am I doing anything Wrong? Am I Doing the DMSO treatment right? I have read so much negative and positive stuff on DMSO that I don't know what to believe? I am planning to buy 70/30 DMSO from the Net If the DMSO starts to work and I would also like to try The DMSO gel with Aloe Vera on Chief. Will I have to keep shaving my dogs Fur to apply the DMSO Or DMSO Gel...He has such beautiful fur I would like him to grow it back in the future. Anyone else had success with DMSO and Dogs? I have spent many days crying at the thought that I might have to put my best friend to sleep due to Arthritis. I just want to do the best for him. Cheers Uly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Another modality to consider is Electro-Acuscope & Myopulse therapy. The acuscope is a FDA approved class II microcurrent with input/output and is calibrated to the bodies own electrical current. (Not to be confused with a TENS unit which has one current and no input/output.) The acuscope can find blocks in the electrical circuitry of the body and then also treat the area to restore function. It constantly monitors cellular feedback and is designed to stop providing current when the needs have been met. The patient does not feel anything during treatment though I have seen animals sigh, stretch, yawn and generally show many signs of relaxation while receiving treatments. If an Acuscope practitioner cannot be found in your area perhaps consider acupuncture. Also, you can use your current DMSO to create a 70/30 ratio ... I think the directions for that is in the files on this forum. > > HI guys, > I'm new and just joined up DMSO yahoo group today. I have a 13 and a Halve year old German Shepherd called Chief. The vet told me he has Hip dysplasia and severe Arthritis in his back hips. > > As the months wore on I could tell he was getting worse so I have had him on various natural products and changed his diet. I also had him on Rimadyl for his pain. On Friday he would barely walk and couldn't lay down properly. He looked like he was in pain and I thought it was the day when I had to put him to sleep. I had been doing a lot of reading lately on DMSO but was too scared to try it because of the contradictory info I had read on it. I decided to try it because there was nothing else to do but put him to sleep. > > I stopped the rimadyl and up his dose of msm to 2 teaspoons 3 times a day. I brought a bottle of DMSO from a local Produce / Horse feed supplement store. It is 99.9% pure DMSO in a plastic bottle. I then shaved my Dogs fur around his Hip Joint, top of his back near his spine and down to his ankle. It is not shaved to the skin but cropped like a number 1 hair cut. > > I have been applying DMSO with some de-mineralised water in a Glass bowl 3 times a day. I have been using those pink washing up gloves and applying the DMSO with a 100% Cotton Pad. I have been applying it all over his hip joints, lower back at the spine and down to his ankles. As I am not 100% sure where all his pain is. > > Chief is also on MSM 2 teaspoons 3 times a day ( gradually built up over 3 months), NZ Green Lipped Muscle 2 tabs twice a day, Blackstrapped molasses 1 Table spoon twice a day. 1000mg of vit c Twice a day, Ester c 1000mg Twice a day. Also a little Colloidal Silver and a teaspoon of Apple cider vinegar in his dinner at night. > > Since Friday when He couldn't walk or even want to walk. His personality has come back, he seems happy, he plays a bit laying down on the floor, he is starting to walk around a bit more and last night I heard him get up twice by himself to get water from his bowl (I have had to bring him water, food and lift him up before Friday). He even got up by himself today to beg when he heard I was getting some food from the kitchen. He also stood up for awhile when he ate his breakfast this morning. > > SO am I doing anything Wrong? Am I Doing the DMSO treatment right? I have read so much negative and positive stuff on DMSO that I don't know what to believe? > > I am planning to buy 70/30 DMSO from the Net If the DMSO starts to work and I would also like to try The DMSO gel with Aloe Vera on Chief. > > Will I have to keep shaving my dogs Fur to apply the DMSO Or DMSO Gel...He has such beautiful fur I would like him to grow it back in the future. > > Anyone else had success with DMSO and Dogs? > > I have spent many days crying at the thought that I might have to put my best friend to sleep due to Arthritis. I just want to do the best for him. > > Cheers > > Uly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2011 Report Share Posted February 6, 2011 Hi Uly, It sounds like you're doing brilliantly fror your dog. He's lucky to have you on his side. I got some great help from pawhealer.com when my Maltese was seriously ill and suffering from a collapsing trachea. They are based in Chinese medicine/accupunture, and they turned my dog's life around, saved me a fortune in expensive and not that promising surgery for trachea. Just a thought. Also, your mentio of Reiki in you posting name suggests you do it? I hope you're giving your dog lots of it. Animals know exactly where they need it and benefit greatly by it. It will help whatever else you're doing work more effectively. Be well, and keep us posted. Léna HI guys, I'm new and just joined up DMSO yahoo group today. I have a 13 and a Halve year old German Shepherd called Chief. The vet told me he has Hip dysplasia and severe Arthritis in his back hips. As the months wore on I could tell he was getting worse so I have had him on various natural products and changed his diet. I also had him on Rimadyl for his pain. On Friday he would barely walk and couldn't lay down properly. He looked like he was in pain and I thought it was the day when I had to put him to sleep. I had been doing a lot of reading lately on DMSO but was too scared to try it because of the contradictory info I had read on it. I decided to try it because there was nothing else to do but put him to sleep. I stopped the rimadyl and up his dose of msm to 2 teaspoons 3 times a day. I brought a bottle of DMSO from a local Produce / Horse feed supplement store. It is 99.9% pure DMSO in a plastic bottle. I then shaved my Dogs fur around his Hip Joint, top of his back near his spine and down to his ankle. It is not shaved to the skin but cropped like a number 1 hair cut. I have been applying DMSO with some de-mineralised water in a Glass bowl 3 times a day. I have been using those pink washing up gloves and applying the DMSO with a 100% Cotton Pad. I have been applying it all over his hip joints, lower back at the spine and down to his ankles. As I am not 100% sure where all his pain is. Chief is also on MSM 2 teaspoons 3 times a day ( gradually built up over 3 months), NZ Green Lipped Muscle 2 tabs twice a day, Blackstrapped molasses 1 Table spoon twice a day. 1000mg of vit c Twice a day, Ester c 1000mg Twice a day. Also a little Colloidal Silver and a teaspoon of Apple cider vinegar in his dinner at night. Since Friday when He couldn't walk or even want to walk. His personality has come back, he seems happy, he plays a bit laying down on the floor, he is starting to walk around a bit more and last night I heard him get up twice by himself to get water from his bowl (I have had to bring him water, food and lift him up before Friday). He even got up by himself today to beg when he heard I was getting some food from the kitchen. He also stood up for awhile when he ate his breakfast this morning. SO am I doing anything Wrong? Am I Doing the DMSO treatment right? I have read so much negative and positive stuff on DMSO that I don't know what to believe? I am planning to buy 70/30 DMSO from the Net If the DMSO starts to work and I would also like to try The DMSO gel with Aloe Vera on Chief. Will I have to keep shaving my dogs Fur to apply the DMSO Or DMSO Gel...He has such beautiful fur I would like him to grow it back in the future. Anyone else had success with DMSO and Dogs? I have spent many days crying at the thought that I might have to put my best friend to sleep due to Arthritis. I just want to do the best for him. Cheers Uly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 You don't need to dilute the DMSO when given orally because you are already diluting it when you put it into milk or something, unless you are just planning on squirting it into his mouth. Still, there's no reason to dilute it--we put it into juice or something when we take it just to mask the flavor. Once a day is fine. I would go slowly--use the quarter teaspoon for a couple days, then a half teaspoon for a couple days, then 3/4s for a couple days and so on. As big as he is he can go up to a full teaspoon--maybe even more if it continues to help him. Perhaps someone knows if there is an upper limit to an oral amount. I'm not sure if there is. It's far easier to tell for humans because a person can say--oh, I feel pretty good at one and a half teaspoons a day, so you know when to stop. With dogs you are just going to have to watch him. Since the MSM and DMSO are cousins, they work synergistically and each seems to enhance the other. Since you are now giving DMSO orally I would cut back on the MSM until he had a teaspoon of each. I believe you can give them both at the same time. Samala, -------Original Message------- Ok i'm going to try giving Chief DMSO orally...As I am using the 99.9% strength I will water it down a bit with De mineralised water. How many times a day do I give the 1/4 teaspoon to Chief? How long should I take to build up to the full teaspoon? Any other tips for Chief to take it internally? I am also giving Chief 2 teaspoons of msm 3 times a day do I have to cut down on the MSM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 I gave Chief 1/4 of a teaspoon in some de-mineralised water last night and he lapped it all up...no need to mask it with this dog lol Then I read on the net someone said DMSO shouldn't be taken orally because the liver can't cope with it? Also someone else said It has to be medical grade DMSO or it could contain impurites like arsnic and other metals That could get into the organs and kill? The brand of DMSO I have doesn't say Medical or industrial grade. It has a graphic pic of a dog, cat and horse line drawing and it says " Careing for your creature's comfort 99.9% DMSO " . It has a ton of warnings on it and an emergency number to call if ingested. Now I know the warnings are becasue it has to be sold legally as a solvent....but how can I tell if it is Medical grade or just a Solvent grade used for cleaning? Interesting when I go to the manufacture's website there is no mention of their DMSO...But all there other products are for animals. No human stuff made by this comapny. Uly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Interesting that you mentioned vaccines...I had chief Vaccinated with his C5 Vaccine that he gets every year a week before he got really bad. If it wasn't for the fact that I've seen chief's back legs slowly decline over the last year I probably would have blamed the vaccine. I have never heard of Bryonia 30x and Rhus Tox 30x? What are they? Uly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 You can tell if it is pharmaceutical grade because you will have a heart attack when you discover the price. Most everyone on this forum uses the so -called solvent grade including the forum moderator, Garnet. Most agree that it is best diluted to have 70% content for topical, and as low as 3% for oral. Some say to put it in the fridge when you get it and then later to pour off any liquid as that is an impurity. I suspect that any remaining after that are too minute to matter. Garnet may weigh in on this and correct us all though. Gerry > > I gave Chief 1/4 of a teaspoon in some de-mineralised water last night > and he lapped it all up...no need to mask it with this dog lol > > Then I read on the net someone said DMSO shouldn't be taken orally > because the liver can't cope with it? > > Also someone else said It has to be medical grade DMSO or it could > contain impurites like arsnic and other metals That could get into the > organs and kill? > > The brand of DMSO I have doesn't say Medical or industrial grade. It > has a graphic pic of a dog, cat and horse line drawing and it says > " Careing for your creature's comfort 99.9% DMSO " . It has a ton of > warnings on it and an emergency number to call if ingested. > > Now I know the warnings are becasue it has to be sold legally as a > solvent....but how can I tell if it is Medical grade or just a Solvent > grade used for cleaning? > > Interesting when I go to the manufacture's website there is no mention > of their DMSO...But all there other products are for animals. No human > stuff made by this comapny. > > Uly > > -- Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of all good things. G. Simpkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Ok I think I will attune Chief, but only once he is much better I have continued the doing Reiki teatments on Chief...He seems to be like about 20mins of Reiki then he wiggles around or I get a sore back or wrist and want to stop. Yesterday I had a massive amount of heat going up my spine and all round my back while treating Chief. It was amazing. I think when I was using Reiki all the time I must have gotten used to the Energy and now that I haven't used it in awhile it seems stronger. No wonder people said it was so strong but yet I couldn't feel it and thought it wasn't working. I also had my hand of Chief's spine and could feel chief's skin bubbling up and down during the treatment. I might look at doing a Reiki refresher Course for teachers / master's in the future. I also now have a desire to treat animals more than Humans with Reiki. I am also trying not to attach to an outcome for Chief to be Cured with Reiki...I just give it and allow it to flow to where ever Chief needs it Thanks for the inspiration. Uly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Hi Uly, I'm so glad to hear you're feeling the energy. Remember, it comes through you rather than from you, so whenever you treat someone, you're getting what you're giving. Nice, huh? Reiki is truly outside of the normal dimensions. Once, a client asked, 'How do you do that?' " Waht?' i replied. 'Well, putting your hands inside my brain, for instance.' What's funny was at that particular moment, with my eyes closed, it felt to me like my hands had drifted over my head, into a warm column of sunlight! Trippy stuff! So close your eyes and enjoy! Be well, Léna Ok I think I will attune Chief, but only once he is much better I have continued the doing Reiki teatments on Chief...He seems to be like about 20mins of Reiki then he wiggles around or I get a sore back or wrist and want to stop. Yesterday I had a massive amount of heat going up my spine and all round my back while treating Chief. It was amazing. I think when I was using Reiki all the time I must have gotten used to the Energy and now that I haven't used it in awhile it seems stronger. No wonder people said it was so strong but yet I couldn't feel it and thought it wasn't working. I also had my hand of Chief's spine and could feel chief's skin bubbling up and down during the treatment. I might look at doing a Reiki refresher Course for teachers / master's in the future. I also now have a desire to treat animals more than Humans with Reiki. I am also trying not to attach to an outcome for Chief to be Cured with Reiki...I just give it and allow it to flow to where ever Chief needs it Thanks for the inspiration. Uly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Rhus Tox is a derivative of oil of poison ivy when used as a supplement. It comes from poison ivy. Byronia might be the concept of treating like with like? Not sure. Gerry > > Interesting that you mentioned vaccines...I had chief Vaccinated with > his C5 Vaccine that he gets every year a week before he got really > bad. If it wasn't for the fact that I've seen chief's back legs slowly > decline over the last year I probably would have blamed the vaccine. > > I have never heard of Bryonia 30x and Rhus Tox 30x? What are they? > > Uly > > -- Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of all good things. G. Simpkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 What you have is perfectly fine. Some of us even use just 99% pure. If you have 99.9 you have the best you can get. Companies HAVE to say not to ingest it, but people do. It will NOT hurt the liver. In fact, organs such as the liver are STORED in DMSO during transit when they are being used as organ replacement! Don't worry. You are doing the right thing. And if he takes it without masking it--all the better. Samala, -------Original Message------- I gave Chief 1/4 of a teaspoon in some de-mineralised water last night and he lapped it all up...no need to mask it with this dog lol Then I read on the net someone said DMSO shouldn't be taken orally because the liver can't cope with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 They are homeopathic remedies. The 30x is the strength as they come in different strengths. Samala, -------Original Message------- > > I have never heard of Bryonia 30x and Rhus Tox 30x? What are they? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 What is a C5 vaccine? He gets this yearly? It can be an accumulation of vaccines that do the damage. Some damage in some dogs shows up immediately. Others build over time. If we all saw the damage immediately no one would give vaccines, but because it's gradual, we don't associate them together, when in fact--any vaccine is damaging. Samala, -------Original Message------- Interesting that you mentioned vaccines...I had chief Vaccinated with his C5 Vaccine that he gets every year a week before he got really bad. If it wasn t for the fact that I've seen chief's back legs slowly decline over the last year I probably would have blamed the vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 A member once mentioned that he spoke to a vendor in ebay that sold DMSO pharmaceutical grade solvent. Acc. to him this guy got his supply direct from the manufacturer. I emailed the vendor and he said that it came in steel drums from producer and he transferred them to glass bottles. I bought three bottles that just arrived today. Haven't opened the bottle so i can't say much about it yet. It said USP DMSO. A set of three bottles cost $25.99 and shipping from Florida to Texas was $10.96. He gave me an extra bottle for a few days delay in shipping. Each bottle is 8 oz. > > > > I gave Chief 1/4 of a teaspoon in some de-mineralised water last night > > and he lapped it all up...no need to mask it with this dog lol > > > > Then I read on the net someone said DMSO shouldn't be taken orally > > because the liver can't cope with it? > > > > Also someone else said It has to be medical grade DMSO or it could > > contain impurites like arsnic and other metals That could get into the > > organs and kill? > > > > The brand of DMSO I have doesn't say Medical or industrial grade. It > > has a graphic pic of a dog, cat and horse line drawing and it says > > " Careing for your creature's comfort 99.9% DMSO " . It has a ton of > > warnings on it and an emergency number to call if ingested. > > > > Now I know the warnings are becasue it has to be sold legally as a > > solvent....but how can I tell if it is Medical grade or just a Solvent > > grade used for cleaning? > > > > Interesting when I go to the manufacture's website there is no mention > > of their DMSO...But all there other products are for animals. No human > > stuff made by this comapny. > > > > Uly > > > > > > -- > Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of all good things. > > G. Simpkins > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 C5 Vaccine info here.... http://www.bhvet.com.au/petcare/dogvac.php My 1st Dog died from distemper when I was a Kid. It's horrible disease. The Fact that Chief is old and German Shepherd are prone to Hip Dysplasia and I have fed him on crap tinned food all his life till now tells me it's not the vaccination. I'm not keen on vaccinations for Humans or Animals but until there is a proven natural way to kill these horrible diseases I will stay with the Vaccines. Uly > > What is a C5 vaccine? He gets this yearly? > > It can be an accumulation of vaccines that do the damage. Some damage in > some dogs shows up immediately. Others build over time. If we all saw the > damage immediately no one would give vaccines, but because it's gradual, we > don't associate them together, when in fact--any vaccine is damaging. > > Samala, > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > Interesting that you mentioned vaccines...I had chief Vaccinated with his C5 > Vaccine that he gets every year a week before he got really bad. If it wasn > t for the fact that I've seen chief's back legs slowly decline over the last > year I probably would have blamed the vaccine. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 C5 Vaccine for Dogs... http://www.bhvet.com.au/petcare/dogvac.php No worries Jean cheers Uly > >> > >> Interesting that you mentioned vaccines...I had chief Vaccinated with > >> his C5 Vaccine that he gets every year a week before he got really > >> bad. If it wasn't for the fact that I've seen chief's back legs slowly > >> decline over the last year I probably would have blamed the vaccine. > >> > >> I have never heard of Bryonia 30x and Rhus Tox 30x? What are they? > >> > >> Uly > >> > >> > > > > -- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 There's all kinds of ways to kill those horrid diseases. CS is a great one. Kills parvo right off, etc. When a dog has a good immune system there's almost nothing that can't be knocked out with natural means. But of course you must do what feels safe and right to you. Personally, the only VAX I give to my animals is one rabies. One is enough to set the anitbodies for life. And crap food. Yeah, it's crap all right. But amazingly I've had dogs live very long, healthy lives up until the end. Had one that ate nothing but the cheapest kibble I could buy (very low grocery budget and I didn't know better back then) and he lived to be 17 and a half, ancient for his breed. My dog that we just had to let go recently, he lived to be 17 on mostly crap food. Personally I believe it's how you THINK about the food you feed them. If you go--oh, this is so bad for them but it's all I can afford. Well, then it will be bad. But if you go--here, this is SO good for you and will make you SO strong and healthy--it does that too. Our intent is way more powerful than we imagine. Yes, it's always far, far better to give the best food possible. But sometimes it isn't possible and so we do what we can and hope/intend for the best. Samala, -------Original Message------- I'm not keen on vaccinations for Humans or Animals but until there is a proven natural way to kill these horrible diseases I will stay with the Vaccines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Hi Uly, Any animal or human would probably have a bad reaction to any vaccine if they were already not well. In fact, they will tell you not to get a flu shot, as bad as they want you to have one, if you have recently been ill. One more thing is, they admit many vaccines in one shot is much more likely to do harm I would give my dog some milk thistle to help their liver. I do this if I suspect the liver might be compromised on any animal. It seems to help. I'm giving my dog two milk thistle capsules as part of her protocol, plus much more, for cancer. I will never give her any shot again. If they insist on rabies, would do titers. A friend of mine has a dog with a ruptured tendon and I just sent her an article about prolotherapy, an injection, that supposedly helps regenerate. I'd heard of this for joints, but not tendons, until the other day. Good luck to Chief. Thank you, Jean ************************** > > Reply-To: <DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:04:43 -0000 > To: <DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Subject: Re: DMSO And My German Shepherd? > > C5 Vaccine for Dogs... > > http://www.bhvet.com.au/petcare/dogvac.php > > No worries Jean > > cheers > > Uly > > > > > > > > > >>>> >>>> Interesting that you mentioned vaccines...I had chief Vaccinated with >>>> his C5 Vaccine that he gets every year a week before he got really >>>> bad. If it wasn't for the fact that I've seen chief's back legs slowly >>>> decline over the last year I probably would have blamed the vaccine. >>>> >>>> I have never heard of Bryonia 30x and Rhus Tox 30x? What are they? >>>> >>>> Uly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Have you looked for Cetyl Myristoleate (CMO)? > > Hi Dianne, > > I have been doing some research into glucosamine sulfate. I have found > out why it never worked in the past...The one's on the shelf at the > chemist seem to been inferior quality > > I have found what seems to be a decent brand here in australia. > > http://www.flexicose.com.au/ > > I am thinking of using it after I have finished the Green lipped > muscle on Chief, Because it says just like you have that it not only > reduces infamation but also rebuilds the joint. Something I don't > think the Green lipped muscle does? > > Cheif need to rebuild the hip joint and cartilage because I think the > DMSO is just relieving his pain? > > I have also found out that some Gel cap tablets can pass right through > the body with out even dispencing their contents....will stick to > liquids from now on. > > Cheers and thanks for making me aware of glucosamine sulfate > > Uly > > > > > > Hi Uly, > > > > Sounds to me as though you are doing everything right. I don't think > you will always have to shave your dog. DMSO has a remarkable ability > to penetrate, but for the time being, I'd keep going the way you are. > > > > There is one other thing I would use, glucosamine sulfate. I've used > it on myself with remarkable results. For me, it doesn't just relieve > pain, it seems to help rebuild the worn cartilage, and the results > have lasted me about ten years. I know Vets who are using it in the US. > > > > I can vouch for the product made by Enzymatic Therapy. It comes in > powder form and is unflavored. I think your dog would take it > dissolved in water. > > > > I wish you many more years with Chief. > > > > Dianne > > > > -- Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of all good things. G. Simpkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 This is what CMO does. -------Original Message------- I am thinking of using it after I have finished the Green lipped muscle on Chief, Because it says just like you have that it not only reduces infamation but also rebuilds the joint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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