Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Hi Sol, I just did a quick check in my files. No info on bladder self cath, but I did find reference to using Urologic, and I'm almost positive that Vitamin Research Products carries that (probably VRP.com). Then I found this link: http://www.ic-hope.com/ I sure hope you find an answer! Sharon > > Just wondering if anyone has any experience or knowledge of > self-administered catheterization to instill DMSO into the bladder > (female) for interstitial cystitis. Anyone done it? Where to find > catheterization equipment? Is that something I can buy OTC? > > Any other comments or suggestions welcome also. I've been diagnosed, > and given a scrip for Elmiron, which has some nasty side effects, and > would cost me between $434 and $438 per month (out of pocket). Online > info says this med can take up to 6 months or more to work (if it helps > at all). > > I have been taking CS orally, also cinnamon, and have tried the 1/2 tsp > baking soda in 8 oz of water every hour (did 3 doses, and it did help). > Not all at the same time, of course, and I've also taken teas of various > herbs said to be helpful for bladder/urinary issues. > thanks in advance, > sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Are you happy to tell us your symptoms Sol? I understand you have a diagnosis but i would like to know your symptoms. I would prescribe Cantharis 200c (Homeopathic) on going to bed & on rising two days in a row and then wait - with a possibility of repeat a week later Massive doses of Cranberry - NOT the drink - the capsules If these do not work then a silicone catheter size 14 or 16 would be what you need to instill a bladder washout with any solution - BUT I think silicon would probably be the safest for DMSO but i can check with my suypplier if you like if google doesn't tell you OR your pharmacy would advise you when you order it Best, Jane Interstitial Cystitis > Just wondering if anyone has any experience or knowledge of > self-administered catheterization to instill DMSO into the bladder > (female) for interstitial cystitis. Anyone done it? Where to find > catheterization equipment? Is that something I can buy OTC? > > Any other comments or suggestions welcome also. I've been diagnosed, > and given a scrip for Elmiron, which has some nasty side effects, and > would cost me between $434 and $438 per month (out of pocket). Online > info says this med can take up to 6 months or more to work (if it helps > at all). > > I have been taking CS orally, also cinnamon, and have tried the 1/2 tsp > baking soda in 8 oz of water every hour (did 3 doses, and it did help). > Not all at the same time, of course, and I've also taken teas of various > herbs said to be helpful for bladder/urinary issues. > thanks in advance, > sol > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Home Page: > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Books: > DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton > MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, NDYahoo! > Groups Links > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3482 - Release Date: 03/04/11 19:34:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 If you wish to go ahead with the catheterization after trying other things, I'm happy to go into more detail with the catheterization process .......... Best, Jane Interstitial Cystitis > > >> Just wondering if anyone has any experience or knowledge of >> self-administered catheterization to instill DMSO into the bladder >> (female) for interstitial cystitis. Anyone done it? Where to find >> catheterization equipment? Is that something I can buy OTC? >> >> Any other comments or suggestions welcome also. I've been diagnosed, >> and given a scrip for Elmiron, which has some nasty side effects, and >> would cost me between $434 and $438 per month (out of pocket). Online >> info says this med can take up to 6 months or more to work (if it helps >> at all). >> >> I have been taking CS orally, also cinnamon, and have tried the 1/2 tsp >> baking soda in 8 oz of water every hour (did 3 doses, and it did help). >> Not all at the same time, of course, and I've also taken teas of various >> herbs said to be helpful for bladder/urinary issues. >> thanks in advance, >> sol >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> List Home Page: >> >> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO >> >> Books: >> DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton >> MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, >> NDYahoo! >> Groups Links >> >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3482 - Release Date: 03/04/11 > 19:34:00 > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Home Page: > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Books: > DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton > MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, NDYahoo! > Groups Links > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3482 - Release Date: 03/04/11 19:34:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Know a lady who had DMSO administered by her Gyno Doc. Was for UTI and it worked. Was done via catheter. I have no details. Was in AZ. gerry > > Just wondering if anyone has any experience or knowledge of > self-administered catheterization to instill DMSO into the bladder > (female) for interstitial cystitis. Anyone done it? Where to find > catheterization equipment? Is that something I can buy OTC? > > Any other comments or suggestions welcome also. I've been diagnosed, > and given a scrip for Elmiron, which has some nasty side effects, and > would cost me between $434 and $438 per month (out of pocket). Online > info says this med can take up to 6 months or more to work (if it helps > at all). > > I have been taking CS orally, also cinnamon, and have tried the 1/2 tsp > baking soda in 8 oz of water every hour (did 3 doses, and it did help). > Not all at the same time, of course, and I've also taken teas of various > herbs said to be helpful for bladder/urinary issues. > thanks in advance, > sol > > -- Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of all good things. G. Simpkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Jane MacRoss wrote: > Are you happy to tell us your symptoms Sol? > Sure--urinary " urgency " even when bladder is not at all full (passing only a few drops at times) pain in bladder and ureter and eurethra, cramps in those same, aching pains in bladder. No bloody urine, and doc/lab says no infection present. I have a long history of bladder problems going back over 20 years, when I had uterine fibroids pressing on the bladder preventing it from either filling properly or emptying properly, leading to very frequent severe bladder infections, upon having an exam where they actually look around inside the bladder, was told whole urinary tract is full of scar tissue, so the IC diagnosis is not particularly surprising, just annoying. Hysterecomy solved the fibroid problem, and bladder issues completely cleared up after having a dilation of the ureter at the same time as the hyst. But the symptoms above have been gradually and sporadically cropping back up for the past few years, until 3 or so weeks ago when they suddenly ramped up into real pain. > I understand you have a diagnosis but i would like to know your symptoms. > > I would prescribe Cantharis 200c (Homeopathic) on going to bed & on rising > two days in a row and then wait - with a possibility of repeat a week later > > Massive doses of Cranberry - NOT the drink - the capsules > Almost unaminously the online info I find on IC says cramberry is contraindicated for IC, because it is acidic urine that is irritating the lining of the bladder. In any case, I can't use cranberry capsules (allergic reactions). > If these do not work then a silicone catheter size 14 or 16 would be what > you need to instill a bladder washout with any solution - BUT I think > silicon would probably be the safest for DMSO but i can check with my > suypplier if you like if google doesn't tell you OR your pharmacy would > advise you when you order it > Thanks very much for that info. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Jane MacRoss wrote: > If you wish to go ahead with the catheterization after trying other things, > I'm happy to go into more detail with the catheterization process .......... > Ok to contact you off list for those details? Thanks, sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 I think you can buy online (catheters). Might also want to look for (particularly old) nursing textbooks, research online and at the library.I know this is the only Medically approved (or whatever)use for DMSO, except transplant organs.But I don't know in what strength,sure you could find that out with some research.I was taught to do it to someone else.May not apply, to doing it to yourself, but the easiest way (I was taught) was to have the patient pee;Helps to find where, and the urethra is open.Its been years, so I don't remember a lot.I seem to remember there are different sizes.On the DMSO I seem to remember you want to hold it in there for awhile. I've long been tempted to do this for my wife, as I think she has I.C. Please keep us updated.Jim > > Just wondering if anyone has any experience or knowledge of > self-administered catheterization to instill DMSO into the bladder > (female) for interstitial cystitis. Anyone done it? Where to find > catheterization equipment? Is that something I can buy OTC? > > Any other comments or suggestions welcome also. I've been diagnosed, > and given a scrip for Elmiron, which has some nasty side effects, and > would cost me between $434 and $438 per month (out of pocket). Online > info says this med can take up to 6 months or more to work (if it helps > at all). > > I have been taking CS orally, also cinnamon, and have tried the 1/2 tsp > baking soda in 8 oz of water every hour (did 3 doses, and it did help). > Not all at the same time, of course, and I've also taken teas of various > herbs said to be helpful for bladder/urinary issues. > thanks in advance, > sol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Sol, with the uterine fibroids, and the scar tissue you describe, you should look into nattokinase. My Dad died of pulmonary fibrosis, as a result of not having enogh of the enzyme, that 'eats' fibrin, in order to keep you from having too much. Google " Pulmonary fibrosis nattokinase Serrapeptase " This also leads to a variety of other conditions, of excessive scar formation.Dr's don't test for it.Jim > > If you wish to go ahead with the catheterization after trying other things, > > I'm happy to go into more detail with the catheterization process .......... > > > Ok to contact you off list for those details? > Thanks, > sol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Yes it's fine to contact me off list on this email address here - Sol - when you say you are allergic to Cranberry - can you be more explicit - do you mean you personally had a noticable response? id so can you describe the response? Cranberry renders the lining of the bladder wall more resistent to infection - urine needs to be acid - this is it's natural pH - to strengthen the bladder wall how about taking mega doses of cranberry with a touch of bicarb to reduce the acidity although I have checked & cranberry is only neutral to slightly acid producing within the body. I would still rather take the homeopathy first to see how well that impacts on your present symptoms but am also happy to help you with the catheterization. Since you have had surgery previously I suggest you take some homeopathic Arnica too, regardless of when you had the surgery. Best, Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Sol, When I have a UTI I take a tablespoon of DMSO orally maybe twice a day for a couple of days. In the past I have taken it with lots of chlorophyll. Now that I know that Urea mitigates the odor, I'll likely try my mixture of DMSO/Urea orally but haven't done that yet. It seems to me that using DMSO topically might work since orally works well for me--I've just not tried it. I figure I know it works orally so why bother with the topical since I'm going to fight the odor either way. Saralou/ no medical advice here, only exercising 1st amendment rights according to 4:17./ > > Just wondering if anyone has any experience or knowledge of > self-administered catheterization to instill DMSO into the bladder > (female) for interstitial cystitis. Anyone done it? Where to find > catheterization equipment? Is that something I can buy OTC? > > Any other comments or suggestions welcome also. I've been diagnosed, > and given a scrip for Elmiron, which has some nasty side effects, and > would cost me between $434 and $438 per month (out of pocket). Online > info says this med can take up to 6 months or more to work (if it helps > at all). > > I have been taking CS orally, also cinnamon, and have tried the 1/2 tsp > baking soda in 8 oz of water every hour (did 3 doses, and it did help). > Not all at the same time, of course, and I've also taken teas of various > herbs said to be helpful for bladder/urinary issues. > thanks in advance, > sol > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 On the Oleander group they were just discussing how very effective on urinary tract infections, from kidney to bladder, radish juice is - just the root part and skinned if it's too strong - might be worth a try too? (Freshly juiced) Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Thanks, I will update as I try or find out things. I know my ereter is scarred and may be narrowed, so I may pursue seeing a urologist first, to see if it needs to be dilated. If it does, it may be that self cath would be too painful. sol dutchdivco wrote: > I think you can buy online (catheters). Might also want to look for (particularly old) nursing textbooks, research online and at the library.I know this is the only Medically approved (or whatever)use for DMSO, except transplant organs.But I don't know in what strength,sure you could find that out with some research.I was taught to do it to someone else.May not apply, to doing it to yourself, but the easiest way (I was taught) was to have the patient pee;Helps to find where, and the urethra is open.Its been years, so I don't remember a lot.I seem to remember there are different sizes.On the DMSO I seem to remember you want to hold it in there for awhile. > I've long been tempted to do this for my wife, as I think she has I.C. > Please keep us updated.Jim > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Thanks again, I will look into it. That sounds like something I should do in any case. sol dutchdivco wrote: > Sol, with the uterine fibroids, and the scar tissue you describe, you should look into nattokinase. My Dad died of pulmonary fibrosis, as a result of not having enogh of the enzyme, that 'eats' fibrin, in order to keep you from having too much. Google " Pulmonary fibrosis nattokinase Serrapeptase " This also leads to a variety of other conditions, of excessive scar formation.Dr's don't test for it.Jim > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Jane MacRoss wrote: > Yes it's fine to contact me off list on this email address here - Sol - when > you say you are allergic to Cranberry - can you be more explicit - do you > mean you personally had a noticable response? id so can you describe the > response? > Hives. This may be due to the iodine content of cranberries, or to some other constituent, I don't know the exact factor, but cranberries are known to be high iodine. And I believe they also contain somewhat high levels of bioflavonoids, at least one of which I am quite reactive to (quercetin--also produces hives). I will have to mail order the Cantharis 200C, unless you think Canth 30C would be of any use? I have that on hand. Arnica I have in 15x and 30C. Which do you think? And how often? > I would still rather take the homeopathy first to see how well that impacts > on your present symptoms but am also happy to help you with the > catheterization. Since you have had surgery previously I suggest you take > some homeopathic Arnica too, regardless of when you had the surgery. > thanks, sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Thanks, I I have the Lab DMSO called Dusa 60 which has urea in it, but I've not been able to find out if that product is safe for oral use. I get the odor even from that applied topically, though not as badly, and the odor is retarded by 24 hours or so after using it. After the middle of next week I'll try either that (if anyone knows if it is OK orally) or my regular DMSO. Once the odor manifests in me, it takes about 3 or more days to completely go away and I have a dentist appt for a tooth extraction next Wed, and I don't want the dentist or the techs gagging over me, LOL. Chlorophyll stops it enough for ordinary social contact, but not well enough for dental work I think. sol RoseOttoGroups wrote: > Sol, > > When I have a UTI I take a tablespoon of DMSO orally maybe twice a day > for a couple of days. In the past I have taken it with lots of > chlorophyll. Now that I know that Urea mitigates the odor, I'll likely > try my mixture of DMSO/Urea orally but haven't done that yet. > It seems to me that using DMSO topically might work since orally works > well for me--I've just not tried it. I figure I know it works orally so > why bother with the topical since I'm going to fight the odor either way. > Saralou/ > no medical advice here, only exercising 1st amendment rights according > to 4:17./ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Jane MacRoss wrote: > On the Oleander group they were just discussing how very effective on > urinary tract infections, from kidney to bladder, radish juice is - just the > root part and skinned if it's too strong - might be worth a try too? > (Freshly juiced) > > Lab says there is no infection present, so I don't know. But.............I was also told the lab test done does not show fungal infections, so I don't know if I should specifically ask for a test for that. Without actual firm diagnosis of an infection, it seems best to me to pursue as if it is just IC. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 I think you need the Catharis 200 - meanwhile the Arnica 30C is good - night & morning until you get the Cantharis? Do you mean your urethra is scarred? (From the outside to the bladder) Or your ureter? (From the bladder to the kidney) Either way you can use a lignocaine gel as lubricant for cather insertion to reduce discomfort & choose the smallest size then. Jane Re: Interstitial Cystitis > Jane MacRoss wrote: >> Yes it's fine to contact me off list on this email address here - Sol - >> when >> you say you are allergic to Cranberry - can you be more explicit - do you >> mean you personally had a noticable response? id so can you describe the >> response? >> > Hives. This may be due to the iodine content of cranberries, or to some > other constituent, I don't know the exact factor, but cranberries are > known to be high iodine. And I believe they also contain somewhat high > levels of bioflavonoids, at least one of which I am quite reactive to > (quercetin--also produces hives). > I will have to mail order the Cantharis 200C, unless you think Canth 30C > would be of any use? I have that on hand. > Arnica I have in 15x and 30C. Which do you think? And how often? >> I would still rather take the homeopathy first to see how well that >> impacts >> on your present symptoms but am also happy to help you with the >> catheterization. Since you have had surgery previously I suggest you >> take >> some homeopathic Arnica too, regardless of when you had the surgery. >> > thanks, > sol > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Home Page: > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Books: > DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton > MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, NDYahoo! > Groups Links > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3482 - Release Date: 03/04/11 19:34:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 A couple of days ago I came across a dialogue about the Low Oxalate Diet and those discussing it were talking about having UTI symptoms but no UTI. They talked about their intolerance to vitamin c, including buffered forms, and sensitivity to certain foods. This caught my eye because I know someone who cannot take vitamin C without it aggravating their bladder & producing UTI type symptoms. Perhaps the oxalate issue is something for you to look into? > > On the Oleander group they were just discussing how very effective on > > urinary tract infections, from kidney to bladder, radish juice is - just the > > root part and skinned if it's too strong - might be worth a try too? > > (Freshly juiced) > > > > > Lab says there is no infection present, so I don't know. > But.............I was also told the lab test done does not show fungal > infections, so I don't know if I should specifically ask for a test for > that. > Without actual firm diagnosis of an infection, it seems best to me to > pursue as if it is just IC. > sol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 I know a lady in AZ who had UTI. Her gyno-doc used DMSO to cure her if memory serves. Do not know any details tho. Was a catheter-delivered dose tho. Am wondering if hydrogen peroxide would help any? > > Thanks, > I will update as I try or find out things. I know my ereter is scarred > and may be narrowed, so I may pursue seeing a urologist first, to see if > it needs to be dilated. If it does, it may be that self cath would be > too painful. > sol > > dutchdivco wrote: > > I think you can buy online (catheters). Might also want to look for > (particularly old) nursing textbooks, research online and at the > library.I know this is the only Medically approved (or whatever)use > for DMSO, except transplant organs.But I don't know in what > strength,sure you could find that out with some research.I was taught > to do it to someone else.May not apply, to doing it to yourself, but > the easiest way (I was taught) was to have the patient pee;Helps to > find where, and the urethra is open.Its been years, so I don't > remember a lot.I seem to remember there are different sizes.On the > DMSO I seem to remember you want to hold it in there for awhile. > > I've long been tempted to do this for my wife, as I think she has I.C. > > Please keep us updated.Jim > > > > > > -- Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of all good things. G. Simpkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Hi Jane, Can I ask for your opinion on Waterfall D-Mannose. I am asking as my father is taking this as he's had so many UTIs. He loves drinking cranberry juice, but this link explains why cranberry isn't helpful for those with UTIs http://www.waterfall-d-mannose.com/ Many thanks, Jayne Crocker LDNNow logo the one to use www.LDNNow.com <http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ldnnow/> Important! Please sign our LDN petition to the European Parliament by clicking here tel: +44 (0) 7877 492 669 < Dr Steele MBE, talking about LDN LDNNow are a political/pressure group of individuals dedicated to getting Low Dose Naltrexone (LDN) accepted into modern medicine and trialled for the myriad of uses it shows benefit for. .. From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO [mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of Jane MacRoss Sent: 12 March 2011 11:18 To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Subject: Re: Interstitial Cystitis Yes it's fine to contact me off list on this email address here - Sol - when you say you are allergic to Cranberry - can you be more explicit - do you mean you personally had a noticable response? id so can you describe the response? Cranberry renders the lining of the bladder wall more resistent to infection - urine needs to be acid - this is it's natural pH - to strengthen the bladder wall how about taking mega doses of cranberry with a touch of bicarb to reduce the acidity although I have checked & cranberry is only neutral to slightly acid producing within the body. I would still rather take the homeopathy first to see how well that impacts on your present symptoms but am also happy to help you with the catheterization. Since you have had surgery previously I suggest you take some homeopathic Arnica too, regardless of when you had the surgery. Best, Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Jane MacRoss wrote: > I think you need the Catharis 200 - meanwhile the Arnica 30C is good - night > & morning until you get the Cantharis? > > Do you mean your urethra is scarred? (From the outside to the bladder) Or > your ureter? (From the bladder to the kidney) Either way you can use a > lignocaine gel as lubricant for cather insertion to reduce discomfort & > choose the smallest size then. > > Ureter. Thanks for the info about lidocaine. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Gerry Simpkins wrote: > I know a lady in AZ who had UTI. Her gyno-doc used DMSO to cure her if > memory serves. Do not know any details tho. Was a catheter-delivered > dose tho. Am wondering if hydrogen peroxide would help any? > > I can't think how? sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Just for everyone's info, there is a prescription medication called RIMSO-50 containing a sterile solution of Dimethylsulfoxide 50% in aqueous solution (water). Interstitial Cystitis is the only FDA approved use for Dimethylsulfoxide. This comes in a 50ml bottle for intravesical instillation only. Here is a link to the packet insert. Don't know how expensive it is but probably lots. http://www.bionichepharmausa.com/pdf/Rimso.pdf My best wishes to all! Sam Subject: Interstitial Cystitis To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 11:39 PM  Just wondering if anyone has any experience or knowledge of self-administered catheterization to instill DMSO into the bladder (female) for interstitial cystitis. Anyone done it? Where to find catheterization equipment? Is that something I can buy OTC? Any other comments or suggestions welcome also. I've been diagnosed, and given a scrip for Elmiron, which has some nasty side effects, and would cost me between $434 and $438 per month (out of pocket). Online info says this med can take up to 6 months or more to work (if it helps at all). I have been taking CS orally, also cinnamon, and have tried the 1/2 tsp baking soda in 8 oz of water every hour (did 3 doses, and it did help). Not all at the same time, of course, and I've also taken teas of various herbs said to be helpful for bladder/urinary issues. thanks in advance, sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 On some group some time....don't remember that part, either Odie or Jim (now dead) delivered H2O2 to the bladder with a catheter to get rid of infection. If you go to all that trouble, use dmso as we know it works. Saralou > > Gerry Simpkins wrote: > > I know a lady in AZ who had UTI. Her gyno-doc used DMSO to cure her if > > memory serves. Do not know any details tho. Was a catheter-delivered > > dose tho. Am wondering if hydrogen peroxide would help any? > > > > > I can't think how? > sol > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 OK in which case the ureter has no connection with what you are about to do the catheter is inserted into the urethra Jane Re: Interstitial Cystitis > Jane MacRoss wrote: >> I think you need the Catharis 200 - meanwhile the Arnica 30C is good - >> night >> & morning until you get the Cantharis? >> >> Do you mean your urethra is scarred? (From the outside to the bladder) Or >> your ureter? (From the bladder to the kidney) Either way you can use a >> lignocaine gel as lubricant for cather insertion to reduce discomfort & >> choose the smallest size then. >> >> > Ureter. > Thanks for the info about lidocaine. > sol > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Home Page: > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Books: > DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton > MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, NDYahoo! > Groups Links > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3482 - Release Date: 03/04/11 19:34:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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