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Have heard of several inexpensive, yet potent means to cure most

cancers. Will list as follows:

Budwig diet (do a search. There is a book since Dr Elena Budwig may

have died)

Raw lemon juice sweetened with raw honey to raise body pH. (I know a

woman who did 6 glasses a day. Took 20 lemons daily to do that)

Vit C with Lysine (most anyone can easily take 20 Grams of Vit C daily.

No Known limit until you have loose bowels.)

Laetrile (Do a search. Also called Vit B17)

Eliminate sugars, reduce yeast and starch drastically. ( can sweeten

things using honey or Kal brand Stevia)

I know a man in Boston who cured himself of IGK Myeloma with Budwig

alone. Took him 3 months. Central to that protocol is to take a cup of

cottage cheese mixed with a half cup flaxseed oil, 3 times a day.

Laetrile is bitter, so easiest to take mixed in a salad or maybe

oatmeal, cream of wheat, apple sauce, etc. Can not be cooked. Numerous

suppliers on the internet.

There are other protocols. You are in the right forum to find them too.

Gerry

>

> Hopeful for help.

>

> I have a very dear lady friend who is a total heath freak and great

> herbalist. She is living with her daughter and family, but has been

> very weak and ill for months. Been going to a chiropracter who sent

> her ot a doctor for blood tests. Her white blood count was over 5

> times the high normal (65). She is going to an oncologist next week

> for verification, but I know for a fact she will not take anything

> allipathic.

> She would do a natural protocol.

> She has been to weak to use the internet herself and phoned me to do

> what research I could.

>

> Any and all comments, sugestions links would be most apreciated.

>

> With all my thanks and gratitude.

>

>

>

>

--

Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of all good

things.

G. Simpkins

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Hi ,

Please Google the Budwig Protocol and join the FlaxSeedOil2 yahoo group

[http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/FlaxSeedOil2/] and read the testimonies

and files so you can better inform your friend...you and she will be glad you

did. This protocol is done mainly through diet and other natural methods and

works absolute miracles for cancer and other illnesses. There are several

reasonably priced books and cookbook from Amazon by Dr Johanna Budwig and her

protocol.

Best regards to you and your friend.

Sandy

Subject: leukemia

To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010, 11:56 AM

 

Hopeful for help.

I have a very dear lady friend who is a total heath freak and great herbalist.

She is living with her daughter and family, but has been very weak and ill for

months. Been going to a chiropracter who sent her ot a doctor for blood tests.

Her white blood count was over 5 times the high normal (65). She is going to an

oncologist next week for verification, but I know for a fact she will not take

anything allipathic.

She would do a natural protocol.

She has been to weak to use the internet herself and phoned me to do what

research I could.

Any and all comments, sugestions links would be most apreciated.

With all my thanks and gratitude.

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Chronic myelogenous leukemia (CML)

chromosomes cause uncontrolled reproduction and proliferation of all types

of white blood cells and platelets (blood clotting factors)

For what it's worth department, I have leukemia HCL, and managing it with

LDN

Low Dose Naltrexone, but it is a script drug, cheap but it is doing a great

job of balancing my immune system, which in turn is keeping my leukemia in

remission.

I read alpha lopoic acid, ALA at about six or seven hundred mgs per day is

recommended by some oncologist, to help with sugar metabolism. I take it

and if I forget it, I do feel weaker late in the day. Glucovance, a type II

diabetic oral medication is receiving some notice in helping with cancer,

and it works similiar to ALA, in helping glucose get into the cells where it

is needed.

But I read, it is never cancer that does someone in, it is a disease called

cachexia, a wasting disease, meaning the cancer will go to all means to feed

it's hungry self, taking all nourishment away, leaving nothing for the

patient. Hydrazine sulfate, HZ is supposed to stop that.

I have ordered some, about sixty bux delivered, as I fear I may have some

cachexia.

Some say it helps stop the cancer.

Thanks Gerry, I like your imputs, david

>

>

> ,

>

> Have heard of several inexpensive, yet potent means to cure most

> cancers. Will list as follows:

>

> Budwig diet (do a search. There is a book since Dr Elena Budwig may

> have died)

> Raw lemon juice sweetened with raw honey to raise body pH. (I know a

> woman who did 6 glasses a day. Took 20 lemons daily to do that)

> Vit C with Lysine (most anyone can easily take 20 Grams of Vit C daily.

> No Known limit until you have loose bowels.)

> Laetrile (Do a search. Also called Vit B17)

> Eliminate sugars, reduce yeast and starch drastically. ( can sweeten

> things using honey or Kal brand Stevia)

>

> I know a man in Boston who cured himself of IGK Myeloma with Budwig

> alone. Took him 3 months. Central to that protocol is to take a cup of

> cottage cheese mixed with a half cup flaxseed oil, 3 times a day.

> Laetrile is bitter, so easiest to take mixed in a salad or maybe

> oatmeal, cream of wheat, apple sauce, etc. Can not be cooked. Numerous

> suppliers on the internet.

>

> There are other protocols. You are in the right forum to find them too.

>

> Gerry

>

>

>

> >

> > Hopeful for help.

> >

> > I have a very dear lady friend who is a total heath freak and great

> > herbalist. She is living with her daughter and family, but has been

> > very weak and ill for months. Been going to a chiropracter who sent

> > her ot a doctor for blood tests. Her white blood count was over 5

> > times the high normal (65). She is going to an oncologist next week

> > for verification, but I know for a fact she will not take anything

> > allipathic.

> > She would do a natural protocol.

> > She has been to weak to use the internet herself and phoned me to do

> > what research I could.

> >

> > Any and all comments, sugestions links would be most apreciated.

> >

> > With all my thanks and gratitude.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> --

> Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of all good

> things.

>

> G. Simpkins

>

>

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,

Do investigate and take Kefir. It replenishes the friendly bacteria in

the gut. That is 80% of the immune system. Easy to make at home using

milk. Cheap and is fastest way to build up friendly gut bacteria,

outside of breast feeding or raw milk/cream. You cannot have too much.

And if you do a fast once a week, your friendly bacteria will turn on

any yeast in your gut (and you have it) and it will eat it. A great way

to help speed up a proper balance between yeast and probiotics.

Gerry

> Chronic myelogenous leukemia (CML)

> chromosomes cause uncontrolled reproduction and proliferation of all types

> of white blood cells and platelets (blood clotting factors)

>

> For what it's worth department, I have leukemia HCL, and managing it with

> LDN

> Low Dose Naltrexone, but it is a script drug, cheap but it is doing a great

> job of balancing my immune system, which in turn is keeping my leukemia in

> remission.

> I read alpha lopoic acid, ALA at about six or seven hundred mgs per day is

> recommended by some oncologist, to help with sugar metabolism. I take it

> and if I forget it, I do feel weaker late in the day. Glucovance, a type II

> diabetic oral medication is receiving some notice in helping with cancer,

> and it works similiar to ALA, in helping glucose get into the cells where it

> is needed.

> But I read, it is never cancer that does someone in, it is a disease called

> cachexia, a wasting disease, meaning the cancer will go to all means to feed

> it's hungry self, taking all nourishment away, leaving nothing for the

> patient. Hydrazine sulfate, HZ is supposed to stop that.

> I have ordered some, about sixty bux delivered, as I fear I may have some

> cachexia.

> Some say it helps stop the cancer.

>

> Thanks Gerry, I like your imputs, david

>

>

> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Gerry Simpkins wrote:

>

>>

>> ,

>>

>> Have heard of several inexpensive, yet potent means to cure most

>> cancers. Will list as follows:

>>

>> Budwig diet (do a search. There is a book since Dr Elena Budwig may

>> have died)

>> Raw lemon juice sweetened with raw honey to raise body pH. (I know a

>> woman who did 6 glasses a day. Took 20 lemons daily to do that)

>> Vit C with Lysine (most anyone can easily take 20 Grams of Vit C daily.

>> No Known limit until you have loose bowels.)

>> Laetrile (Do a search. Also called Vit B17)

>> Eliminate sugars, reduce yeast and starch drastically. ( can sweeten

>> things using honey or Kal brand Stevia)

>>

>> I know a man in Boston who cured himself of IGK Myeloma with Budwig

>> alone. Took him 3 months. Central to that protocol is to take a cup of

>> cottage cheese mixed with a half cup flaxseed oil, 3 times a day.

>> Laetrile is bitter, so easiest to take mixed in a salad or maybe

>> oatmeal, cream of wheat, apple sauce, etc. Can not be cooked. Numerous

>> suppliers on the internet.

>>

>> There are other protocols. You are in the right forum to find them too.

>>

>> Gerry

>>

>>

>>

>>> Hopeful for help.

>>>

>>> I have a very dear lady friend who is a total heath freak and great

>>> herbalist. She is living with her daughter and family, but has been

>>> very weak and ill for months. Been going to a chiropracter who sent

>>> her ot a doctor for blood tests. Her white blood count was over 5

>>> times the high normal (65). She is going to an oncologist next week

>>> for verification, but I know for a fact she will not take anything

>>> allipathic.

>>> She would do a natural protocol.

>>> She has been to weak to use the internet herself and phoned me to do

>>> what research I could.

>>>

>>> Any and all comments, sugestions links would be most apreciated.

>>>

>>> With all my thanks and gratitude.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>> --

>> Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of all good

>> things.

>>

>> G. Simpkins

>>

>>

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Obviously if I had good common sense, I would be taking Kefir, have it on

order, that is the starter, should be here within the week, I am thinking,

and thanks for the heads up.

stay well, will keep you posted, david

>

>

> ,

>

> Do investigate and take Kefir. It replenishes the friendly bacteria in

> the gut. That is 80% of the immune system. Easy to make at home using

> milk. Cheap and is fastest way to build up friendly gut bacteria,

> outside of breast feeding or raw milk/cream. You cannot have too much.

> And if you do a fast once a week, your friendly bacteria will turn on

> any yeast in your gut (and you have it) and it will eat it. A great way

> to help speed up a proper balance between yeast and probiotics.

>

> Gerry

>

>

>

> > Chronic myelogenous leukemia (CML)

> > chromosomes cause uncontrolled reproduction and proliferation of all

> types

> > of white blood cells and platelets (blood clotting factors)

> >

> > For what it's worth department, I have leukemia HCL, and managing it with

> > LDN

> > Low Dose Naltrexone, but it is a script drug, cheap but it is doing a

> great

> > job of balancing my immune system, which in turn is keeping my leukemia

> in

> > remission.

> > I read alpha lopoic acid, ALA at about six or seven hundred mgs per day

> is

> > recommended by some oncologist, to help with sugar metabolism. I take it

> > and if I forget it, I do feel weaker late in the day. Glucovance, a type

> II

> > diabetic oral medication is receiving some notice in helping with cancer,

> > and it works similiar to ALA, in helping glucose get into the cells where

> it

> > is needed.

> > But I read, it is never cancer that does someone in, it is a disease

> called

> > cachexia, a wasting disease, meaning the cancer will go to all means to

> feed

> > it's hungry self, taking all nourishment away, leaving nothing for the

> > patient. Hydrazine sulfate, HZ is supposed to stop that.

> > I have ordered some, about sixty bux delivered, as I fear I may have some

> > cachexia.

> > Some say it helps stop the cancer.

> >

> > Thanks Gerry, I like your imputs, david

> >

> >

> > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Gerry

Simpkins<gsim@...<gsim%40tds.net>>

> wrote:

> >

> >>

> >> ,

> >>

> >> Have heard of several inexpensive, yet potent means to cure most

> >> cancers. Will list as follows:

> >>

> >> Budwig diet (do a search. There is a book since Dr Elena Budwig may

> >> have died)

> >> Raw lemon juice sweetened with raw honey to raise body pH. (I know a

> >> woman who did 6 glasses a day. Took 20 lemons daily to do that)

> >> Vit C with Lysine (most anyone can easily take 20 Grams of Vit C daily.

> >> No Known limit until you have loose bowels.)

> >> Laetrile (Do a search. Also called Vit B17)

> >> Eliminate sugars, reduce yeast and starch drastically. ( can sweeten

> >> things using honey or Kal brand Stevia)

> >>

> >> I know a man in Boston who cured himself of IGK Myeloma with Budwig

> >> alone. Took him 3 months. Central to that protocol is to take a cup of

> >> cottage cheese mixed with a half cup flaxseed oil, 3 times a day.

> >> Laetrile is bitter, so easiest to take mixed in a salad or maybe

> >> oatmeal, cream of wheat, apple sauce, etc. Can not be cooked. Numerous

> >> suppliers on the internet.

> >>

> >> There are other protocols. You are in the right forum to find them too.

> >>

> >> Gerry

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>> Hopeful for help.

> >>>

> >>> I have a very dear lady friend who is a total heath freak and great

> >>> herbalist. She is living with her daughter and family, but has been

> >>> very weak and ill for months. Been going to a chiropracter who sent

> >>> her ot a doctor for blood tests. Her white blood count was over 5

> >>> times the high normal (65). She is going to an oncologist next week

> >>> for verification, but I know for a fact she will not take anything

> >>> allipathic.

> >>> She would do a natural protocol.

> >>> She has been to weak to use the internet herself and phoned me to do

> >>> what research I could.

> >>>

> >>> Any and all comments, sugestions links would be most apreciated.

> >>>

> >>> With all my thanks and gratitude.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >> --

> >> Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of all

> good

> >> things.

> >>

> >> G. Simpkins

> >>

> >>

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Hi ,

Although now I sweeten my kefir now with stevia, trying to avoid

sugar, I've found in the past that a little maple syrup in kefir makes

a wonderful bedtime drink. I've experimented with lots of things and

there seems to be something in the maple, manganese maybe, that seems

to really aid sleep, or my adrenals, or something, letting me sleep

with fewer interruptions.

Congratulations on having some grains coming to you!

Be well,

Léna

Obviously if I had good common sense, I would be taking Kefir, have it

on

order, that is the starter, should be here within the week, I am

thinking,

and thanks for the heads up.

stay well, will keep you posted, david

>

>

> ,

>

> Do investigate and take Kefir. It replenishes the friendly bacteria in

> the gut. That is 80% of the immune system. Easy to make at home using

> milk. Cheap and is fastest way to build up friendly gut bacteria,

> outside of breast feeding or raw milk/cream. You cannot have too much.

> And if you do a fast once a week, your friendly bacteria will turn on

> any yeast in your gut (and you have it) and it will eat it. A great

> way

> to help speed up a proper balance between yeast and probiotics.

>

> Gerry

>

>

>

>> Chronic myelogenous leukemia (CML)

>> chromosomes cause uncontrolled reproduction and proliferation of all

> types

>> of white blood cells and platelets (blood clotting factors)

>>

>> For what it's worth department, I have leukemia HCL, and managing

>> it with

>> LDN

>> Low Dose Naltrexone, but it is a script drug, cheap but it is doing a

> great

>> job of balancing my immune system, which in turn is keeping my

>> leukemia

> in

>> remission.

>> I read alpha lopoic acid, ALA at about six or seven hundred mgs per

>> day

> is

>> recommended by some oncologist, to help with sugar metabolism. I

>> take it

>> and if I forget it, I do feel weaker late in the day. Glucovance, a

>> type

> II

>> diabetic oral medication is receiving some notice in helping with

>> cancer,

>> and it works similiar to ALA, in helping glucose get into the cells

>> where

> it

>> is needed.

>> But I read, it is never cancer that does someone in, it is a disease

> called

>> cachexia, a wasting disease, meaning the cancer will go to all

>> means to

> feed

>> it's hungry self, taking all nourishment away, leaving nothing for

>> the

>> patient. Hydrazine sulfate, HZ is supposed to stop that.

>> I have ordered some, about sixty bux delivered, as I fear I may

>> have some

>> cachexia.

>> Some say it helps stop the cancer.

>>

>> Thanks Gerry, I like your imputs, david

>>

>>

>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Gerry Simpkins<gsim@...<gsim

>> %40tds.net>>

> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> ,

>>>

>>> Have heard of several inexpensive, yet potent means to cure most

>>> cancers. Will list as follows:

>>>

>>> Budwig diet (do a search. There is a book since Dr Elena Budwig may

>>> have died)

>>> Raw lemon juice sweetened with raw honey to raise body pH. (I know a

>>> woman who did 6 glasses a day. Took 20 lemons daily to do that)

>>> Vit C with Lysine (most anyone can easily take 20 Grams of Vit C

>>> daily.

>>> No Known limit until you have loose bowels.)

>>> Laetrile (Do a search. Also called Vit B17)

>>> Eliminate sugars, reduce yeast and starch drastically. ( can sweeten

>>> things using honey or Kal brand Stevia)

>>>

>>> I know a man in Boston who cured himself of IGK Myeloma with Budwig

>>> alone. Took him 3 months. Central to that protocol is to take a

>>> cup of

>>> cottage cheese mixed with a half cup flaxseed oil, 3 times a day.

>>> Laetrile is bitter, so easiest to take mixed in a salad or maybe

>>> oatmeal, cream of wheat, apple sauce, etc. Can not be cooked.

>>> Numerous

>>> suppliers on the internet.

>>>

>>> There are other protocols. You are in the right forum to find them

>>> too.

>>>

>>> Gerry

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Hopeful for help.

>>>>

>>>> I have a very dear lady friend who is a total heath freak and great

>>>> herbalist. She is living with her daughter and family, but has been

>>>> very weak and ill for months. Been going to a chiropracter who sent

>>>> her ot a doctor for blood tests. Her white blood count was over 5

>>>> times the high normal (65). She is going to an oncologist next week

>>>> for verification, but I know for a fact she will not take anything

>>>> allipathic.

>>>> She would do a natural protocol.

>>>> She has been to weak to use the internet herself and phoned me to

>>>> do

>>>> what research I could.

>>>>

>>>> Any and all comments, sugestions links would be most apreciated.

>>>>

>>>> With all my thanks and gratitude.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>> --

>>> Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of

>>> all

> good

>>> things.

>>>

>>> G. Simpkins

>>>

>>>

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Thanks for the tip Lena, will give it a try, you are so very nice to notice,

thank you, david

>

>

> Hi ,

> Although now I sweeten my kefir now with stevia, trying to avoid

> sugar, I've found in the past that a little maple syrup in kefir makes

> a wonderful bedtime drink. I've experimented with lots of things and

> there seems to be something in the maple, manganese maybe, that seems

> to really aid sleep, or my adrenals, or something, letting me sleep

> with fewer interruptions.

> Congratulations on having some grains coming to you!

>

> Be well,

> Léna

>

>

>

> Obviously if I had good common sense, I would be taking Kefir, have it

> on

> order, that is the starter, should be here within the week, I am

> thinking,

> and thanks for the heads up.

> stay well, will keep you posted, david

>

> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Gerry Simpkins <gsim@...<gsim%40tds.net>>

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > ,

> >

> > Do investigate and take Kefir. It replenishes the friendly bacteria in

> > the gut. That is 80% of the immune system. Easy to make at home using

> > milk. Cheap and is fastest way to build up friendly gut bacteria,

> > outside of breast feeding or raw milk/cream. You cannot have too much.

> > And if you do a fast once a week, your friendly bacteria will turn on

> > any yeast in your gut (and you have it) and it will eat it. A great

> > way

> > to help speed up a proper balance between yeast and probiotics.

> >

> > Gerry

> >

> >

> >

> >> Chronic myelogenous leukemia (CML)

> >> chromosomes cause uncontrolled reproduction and proliferation of all

> > types

> >> of white blood cells and platelets (blood clotting factors)

> >>

> >> For what it's worth department, I have leukemia HCL, and managing

> >> it with

> >> LDN

> >> Low Dose Naltrexone, but it is a script drug, cheap but it is doing a

> > great

> >> job of balancing my immune system, which in turn is keeping my

> >> leukemia

> > in

> >> remission.

> >> I read alpha lopoic acid, ALA at about six or seven hundred mgs per

> >> day

> > is

> >> recommended by some oncologist, to help with sugar metabolism. I

> >> take it

> >> and if I forget it, I do feel weaker late in the day. Glucovance, a

> >> type

> > II

> >> diabetic oral medication is receiving some notice in helping with

> >> cancer,

> >> and it works similiar to ALA, in helping glucose get into the cells

> >> where

> > it

> >> is needed.

> >> But I read, it is never cancer that does someone in, it is a disease

> > called

> >> cachexia, a wasting disease, meaning the cancer will go to all

> >> means to

> > feed

> >> it's hungry self, taking all nourishment away, leaving nothing for

> >> the

> >> patient. Hydrazine sulfate, HZ is supposed to stop that.

> >> I have ordered some, about sixty bux delivered, as I fear I may

> >> have some

> >> cachexia.

> >> Some say it helps stop the cancer.

> >>

> >> Thanks Gerry, I like your imputs, david

> >>

> >>

> >> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Gerry

Simpkins<gsim@...<gsim%40tds.net><gsim

>

> >> %40tds.net>>

>

> > wrote:

> >>

> >>>

> >>> ,

> >>>

> >>> Have heard of several inexpensive, yet potent means to cure most

> >>> cancers. Will list as follows:

> >>>

> >>> Budwig diet (do a search. There is a book since Dr Elena Budwig may

> >>> have died)

> >>> Raw lemon juice sweetened with raw honey to raise body pH. (I know a

> >>> woman who did 6 glasses a day. Took 20 lemons daily to do that)

> >>> Vit C with Lysine (most anyone can easily take 20 Grams of Vit C

> >>> daily.

> >>> No Known limit until you have loose bowels.)

> >>> Laetrile (Do a search. Also called Vit B17)

> >>> Eliminate sugars, reduce yeast and starch drastically. ( can sweeten

> >>> things using honey or Kal brand Stevia)

> >>>

> >>> I know a man in Boston who cured himself of IGK Myeloma with Budwig

> >>> alone. Took him 3 months. Central to that protocol is to take a

> >>> cup of

> >>> cottage cheese mixed with a half cup flaxseed oil, 3 times a day.

> >>> Laetrile is bitter, so easiest to take mixed in a salad or maybe

> >>> oatmeal, cream of wheat, apple sauce, etc. Can not be cooked.

> >>> Numerous

> >>> suppliers on the internet.

> >>>

> >>> There are other protocols. You are in the right forum to find them

> >>> too.

> >>>

> >>> Gerry

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>> Hopeful for help.

> >>>>

> >>>> I have a very dear lady friend who is a total heath freak and great

> >>>> herbalist. She is living with her daughter and family, but has been

> >>>> very weak and ill for months. Been going to a chiropracter who sent

> >>>> her ot a doctor for blood tests. Her white blood count was over 5

> >>>> times the high normal (65). She is going to an oncologist next week

> >>>> for verification, but I know for a fact she will not take anything

> >>>> allipathic.

> >>>> She would do a natural protocol.

> >>>> She has been to weak to use the internet herself and phoned me to

> >>>> do

> >>>> what research I could.

> >>>>

> >>>> Any and all comments, sugestions links would be most apreciated.

> >>>>

> >>>> With all my thanks and gratitude.

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>> --

> >>> Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of

> >>> all

> > good

> >>> things.

> >>>

> >>> G. Simpkins

> >>>

> >>>

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Lena, how much kefir do you drink at night? And at what time before you go

to bed? I’m interested in this – still trying to get my kefir so it’s not

tart. I had my in the fridge for many weeks and took them out last week and

let them sit for over a week to rejuvenate them. They’ve grown quite a bit

:-) so I think going forward I can let my kefir do it’s thing for as short

as a day (or maybe half day) with the hopes that it’ll be sweet rather than

so very tart!

_____

From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

[mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of Guyot Léna

Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 6:52 PM

To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Subject: Re: leukemia

Hi ,

Although now I sweeten my kefir now with stevia, trying to avoid

sugar, I've found in the past that a little maple syrup in kefir makes

a wonderful bedtime drink. I've experimented with lots of things and

there seems to be something in the maple, manganese maybe, that seems

to really aid sleep, or my adrenals, or something, letting me sleep

with fewer interruptions.

Congratulations on having some grains coming to you!

Be well,

Léna

Obviously if I had good common sense, I would be taking Kefir, have it

on

order, that is the starter, should be here within the week, I am

thinking,

and thanks for the heads up.

stay well, will keep you posted, david

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Gerry Simpkins <gsim@...

<mailto:gsim%40tds.net> > wrote:

>

>

> ,

>

> Do investigate and take Kefir. It replenishes the friendly bacteria in

> the gut. That is 80% of the immune system. Easy to make at home using

> milk. Cheap and is fastest way to build up friendly gut bacteria,

> outside of breast feeding or raw milk/cream. You cannot have too much.

> And if you do a fast once a week, your friendly bacteria will turn on

> any yeast in your gut (and you have it) and it will eat it. A great

> way

> to help speed up a proper balance between yeast and probiotics.

>

> Gerry

>

>

>

>> Chronic myelogenous leukemia (CML)

>> chromosomes cause uncontrolled reproduction and proliferation of all

> types

>> of white blood cells and platelets (blood clotting factors)

>>

>> For what it's worth department, I have leukemia HCL, and managing

>> it with

>> LDN

>> Low Dose Naltrexone, but it is a script drug, cheap but it is doing a

> great

>> job of balancing my immune system, which in turn is keeping my

>> leukemia

> in

>> remission.

>> I read alpha lopoic acid, ALA at about six or seven hundred mgs per

>> day

> is

>> recommended by some oncologist, to help with sugar metabolism. I

>> take it

>> and if I forget it, I do feel weaker late in the day. Glucovance, a

>> type

> II

>> diabetic oral medication is receiving some notice in helping with

>> cancer,

>> and it works similiar to ALA, in helping glucose get into the cells

>> where

> it

>> is needed.

>> But I read, it is never cancer that does someone in, it is a disease

> called

>> cachexia, a wasting disease, meaning the cancer will go to all

>> means to

> feed

>> it's hungry self, taking all nourishment away, leaving nothing for

>> the

>> patient. Hydrazine sulfate, HZ is supposed to stop that.

>> I have ordered some, about sixty bux delivered, as I fear I may

>> have some

>> cachexia.

>> Some say it helps stop the cancer.

>>

>> Thanks Gerry, I like your imputs, david

>>

>>

>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Gerry Simpkins<gsim@...

<mailto:gsim%40tds.net> <gsim

>> %40tds.net>>

> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> ,

>>>

>>> Have heard of several inexpensive, yet potent means to cure most

>>> cancers. Will list as follows:

>>>

>>> Budwig diet (do a search. There is a book since Dr Elena Budwig may

>>> have died)

>>> Raw lemon juice sweetened with raw honey to raise body pH. (I know a

>>> woman who did 6 glasses a day. Took 20 lemons daily to do that)

>>> Vit C with Lysine (most anyone can easily take 20 Grams of Vit C

>>> daily.

>>> No Known limit until you have loose bowels.)

>>> Laetrile (Do a search. Also called Vit B17)

>>> Eliminate sugars, reduce yeast and starch drastically. ( can sweeten

>>> things using honey or Kal brand Stevia)

>>>

>>> I know a man in Boston who cured himself of IGK Myeloma with Budwig

>>> alone. Took him 3 months. Central to that protocol is to take a

>>> cup of

>>> cottage cheese mixed with a half cup flaxseed oil, 3 times a day.

>>> Laetrile is bitter, so easiest to take mixed in a salad or maybe

>>> oatmeal, cream of wheat, apple sauce, etc. Can not be cooked.

>>> Numerous

>>> suppliers on the internet.

>>>

>>> There are other protocols. You are in the right forum to find them

>>> too.

>>>

>>> Gerry

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Hopeful for help.

>>>>

>>>> I have a very dear lady friend who is a total heath freak and great

>>>> herbalist. She is living with her daughter and family, but has been

>>>> very weak and ill for months. Been going to a chiropracter who sent

>>>> her ot a doctor for blood tests. Her white blood count was over 5

>>>> times the high normal (65). She is going to an oncologist next week

>>>> for verification, but I know for a fact she will not take anything

>>>> allipathic.

>>>> She would do a natural protocol.

>>>> She has been to weak to use the internet herself and phoned me to

>>>> do

>>>> what research I could.

>>>>

>>>> Any and all comments, sugestions links would be most apreciated.

>>>>

>>>> With all my thanks and gratitude.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>> --

>>> Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of

>>> all

> good

>>> things.

>>>

>>> G. Simpkins

>>>

>>>

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http://ezinearticles.com/?Finding-a-Cure-For-Leukemia & id=3788350

" Simoncini believes that baking soda, or sodium bicarbonate can also be used as

a cure for leukemia. This is based on his theory that cancer is a fungus. Many

people disagree with Simoncini's terminology, and classifying cancer as a

fungus, but it is hard to argue with his results. "

You could try taking it orally, and possibly nebulize the baking soda to get it

into the blood stream.

Mark Sircus has some protocols using magnesium chloride and baking soda for

these types of things.

Dan

>

> Hopeful for help.

>

> I have a very dear lady friend who is a total heath freak and great herbalist.

She is living with her daughter and family, but has been very weak and ill for

months. Been going to a chiropracter who sent her ot a doctor for blood tests.

Her white blood count was over 5 times the high normal (65). She is going to an

oncologist next week for verification, but I know for a fact she will not take

anything allipathic.

> She would do a natural protocol.

> She has been to weak to use the internet herself and phoned me to do what

research I could.

>

> Any and all comments, sugestions links would be most apreciated.

>

> With all my thanks and gratitude.

>

>

>

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Do you think this would work with other cancers (such as bladder cancer)? A

fellow (in his 60's or so) has been diagnosed with bladder cancer - maybe

even stage 3 or 4 and he's undergoing chemotherapy. I wish I could offer him

some things to ponder when I see him this weekend.though unsure how he'd

look at any " alternative " treatments.

_____

From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

[mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of bhangchai

Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 7:18 PM

To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Subject: Re: leukemia

http://ezinearticles.com/?Finding-a-Cure-For-Leukemia

<http://ezinearticles.com/?Finding-a-Cure-For-Leukemia & id=3788350>

& id=3788350

" Simoncini believes that baking soda, or sodium bicarbonate can also be used

as a cure for leukemia. This is based on his theory that cancer is a fungus.

Many people disagree with Simoncini's terminology, and classifying cancer as

a fungus, but it is hard to argue with his results. "

You could try taking it orally, and possibly nebulize the baking soda to get

it into the blood stream.

Mark Sircus has some protocols using magnesium chloride and baking soda for

these types of things.

Dan

>

> Hopeful for help.

>

> I have a very dear lady friend who is a total heath freak and great

herbalist. She is living with her daughter and family, but has been very

weak and ill for months. Been going to a chiropracter who sent her ot a

doctor for blood tests. Her white blood count was over 5 times the high

normal (65). She is going to an oncologist next week for verification, but I

know for a fact she will not take anything allipathic.

> She would do a natural protocol.

> She has been to weak to use the internet herself and phoned me to do what

research I could.

>

> Any and all comments, sugestions links would be most apreciated.

>

> With all my thanks and gratitude.

>

>

>

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Hi ,

24 hrs is my preferred kefir-culture cycle. Sometimes, if I take off

in the morning without my usual breakfast, I'll either put the kefir-

making in the fridge to slow it down or just drink it as a more tart

drink in the evening. My jar yields about 6oz for my cereal with 8oz

remaining for my evening drink. That's my usual routine. I drink it

with my last supplements, anywhere from 9:00 to 11:00 p.m., depending

on where I am and what I'm doing.

I'm not sure you needed to let them sit for a week to rejuvenate. I've

brought refrigerated grains back in 24 hrs in the summer. One thing

you can do: throughly rinse your grains in good water and then give

them fresh milk. This seems to clear them to let them 'feed' more

effectively for their 'restart'. This is just my opinion. A friend of

mine just kept pouring off some liquid and just adding a little milk

(without straining) and the grains got truly disgusting and sour,

leading me to think that they can get congested. Others in the kefir

groups might suggest other processes.

If your ratio of kefir grains to milk changes as the result of your

grains multiplying, they will begin to culture faster and become more

tart more quickly. Just remove some grains to store in a little milk

in the fridge (in case your working culture gets contaminated or

something). Or figure out your grains:milk ratio in terms of the

interval of time that works for your schedule. Trial and error wil get

you there. It's an art/science. It will always be more tart than plain

yogurt, which is why I like to add some stevia and cardamom to it at

night. Fruit and granola sweeten it enough in the morning. Maple syrup

in kefir is REALLY yummy, but I'm trying to reduce calories and sugar.

Lots of people make kefir smoothies with frozen berries or fresh

bananas.

No matter how sweet or tart, it's good for you!

Be well,

Léna

Lena, how much kefir do you drink at night? And at what time before

you go

to bed? I’m interested in this – still trying to get my kefir so it’s

not

tart. I had my in the fridge for many weeks and took them out last

week and

let them sit for over a week to rejuvenate them. They’ve grown quite a

bit

:-) so I think going forward I can let my kefir do it’s thing for as

short

as a day (or maybe half day) with the hopes that it’ll be sweet rather

than

so very tart!

_____

From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

[mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of Guyot Léna

Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 6:52 PM

To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Subject: Re: leukemia

Hi ,

Although now I sweeten my kefir now with stevia, trying to avoid

sugar, I've found in the past that a little maple syrup in kefir makes

a wonderful bedtime drink. I've experimented with lots of things and

there seems to be something in the maple, manganese maybe, that seems

to really aid sleep, or my adrenals, or something, letting me sleep

with fewer interruptions.

Congratulations on having some grains coming to you!

Be well,

Léna

Obviously if I had good common sense, I would be taking Kefir, have it

on

order, that is the starter, should be here within the week, I am

thinking,

and thanks for the heads up.

stay well, will keep you posted, david

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Gerry Simpkins <gsim@...

<mailto:gsim%40tds.net> > wrote:

>

>

> ,

>

> Do investigate and take Kefir. It replenishes the friendly bacteria

in

> the gut. That is 80% of the immune system. Easy to make at home using

> milk. Cheap and is fastest way to build up friendly gut bacteria,

> outside of breast feeding or raw milk/cream. You cannot have too

much.

> And if you do a fast once a week, your friendly bacteria will turn on

> any yeast in your gut (and you have it) and it will eat it. A great

> way

> to help speed up a proper balance between yeast and probiotics.

>

> Gerry

>

>

>

>> Chronic myelogenous leukemia (CML)

>> chromosomes cause uncontrolled reproduction and proliferation of all

> types

>> of white blood cells and platelets (blood clotting factors)

>>

>> For what it's worth department, I have leukemia HCL, and managing

>> it with

>> LDN

>> Low Dose Naltrexone, but it is a script drug, cheap but it is

doing a

> great

>> job of balancing my immune system, which in turn is keeping my

>> leukemia

> in

>> remission.

>> I read alpha lopoic acid, ALA at about six or seven hundred mgs per

>> day

> is

>> recommended by some oncologist, to help with sugar metabolism. I

>> take it

>> and if I forget it, I do feel weaker late in the day. Glucovance, a

>> type

> II

>> diabetic oral medication is receiving some notice in helping with

>> cancer,

>> and it works similiar to ALA, in helping glucose get into the cells

>> where

> it

>> is needed.

>> But I read, it is never cancer that does someone in, it is a disease

> called

>> cachexia, a wasting disease, meaning the cancer will go to all

>> means to

> feed

>> it's hungry self, taking all nourishment away, leaving nothing for

>> the

>> patient. Hydrazine sulfate, HZ is supposed to stop that.

>> I have ordered some, about sixty bux delivered, as I fear I may

>> have some

>> cachexia.

>> Some say it helps stop the cancer.

>>

>> Thanks Gerry, I like your imputs, david

>>

>>

>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Gerry Simpkins<gsim@...

<mailto:gsim%40tds.net> <gsim

>> %40tds.net>>

> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> ,

>>>

>>> Have heard of several inexpensive, yet potent means to cure most

>>> cancers. Will list as follows:

>>>

>>> Budwig diet (do a search. There is a book since Dr Elena Budwig may

>>> have died)

>>> Raw lemon juice sweetened with raw honey to raise body pH. (I

know a

>>> woman who did 6 glasses a day. Took 20 lemons daily to do that)

>>> Vit C with Lysine (most anyone can easily take 20 Grams of Vit C

>>> daily.

>>> No Known limit until you have loose bowels.)

>>> Laetrile (Do a search. Also called Vit B17)

>>> Eliminate sugars, reduce yeast and starch drastically. ( can

sweeten

>>> things using honey or Kal brand Stevia)

>>>

>>> I know a man in Boston who cured himself of IGK Myeloma with Budwig

>>> alone. Took him 3 months. Central to that protocol is to take a

>>> cup of

>>> cottage cheese mixed with a half cup flaxseed oil, 3 times a day.

>>> Laetrile is bitter, so easiest to take mixed in a salad or maybe

>>> oatmeal, cream of wheat, apple sauce, etc. Can not be cooked.

>>> Numerous

>>> suppliers on the internet.

>>>

>>> There are other protocols. You are in the right forum to find them

>>> too.

>>>

>>> Gerry

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Hopeful for help.

>>>>

>>>> I have a very dear lady friend who is a total heath freak and

great

>>>> herbalist. She is living with her daughter and family, but has

been

>>>> very weak and ill for months. Been going to a chiropracter who

sent

>>>> her ot a doctor for blood tests. Her white blood count was over 5

>>>> times the high normal (65). She is going to an oncologist next

week

>>>> for verification, but I know for a fact she will not take anything

>>>> allipathic.

>>>> She would do a natural protocol.

>>>> She has been to weak to use the internet herself and phoned me to

>>>> do

>>>> what research I could.

>>>>

>>>> Any and all comments, sugestions links would be most apreciated.

>>>>

>>>> With all my thanks and gratitude.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>> --

>>> Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of

>>> all

> good

>>> things.

>>>

>>> G. Simpkins

>>>

>>>

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Thank you SO much Lena...some great information here.

I think you may have something there as far as rinsing my grains. I will try

that as soon as I finish the batch I currently made. I may just been making

too much at a time (currently a quart...used to be a half gallon at a time).

I have to get the right ratios as I'd like my kids to drink it and they do

need something semi-sweet so I think the maple syrup will be a great

addition to try!

Re: leukemia

Hi ,

Although now I sweeten my kefir now with stevia, trying to avoid

sugar, I've found in the past that a little maple syrup in kefir makes

a wonderful bedtime drink. I've experimented with lots of things and

there seems to be something in the maple, manganese maybe, that seems

to really aid sleep, or my adrenals, or something, letting me sleep

with fewer interruptions.

Congratulations on having some grains coming to you!

Be well,

Léna

Obviously if I had good common sense, I would be taking Kefir, have it

on

order, that is the starter, should be here within the week, I am

thinking,

and thanks for the heads up.

stay well, will keep you posted, david

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Gerry Simpkins <gsim@...

<mailto:gsim%40tds.net> > wrote:

>

>

> ,

>

> Do investigate and take Kefir. It replenishes the friendly bacteria

in

> the gut. That is 80% of the immune system. Easy to make at home using

> milk. Cheap and is fastest way to build up friendly gut bacteria,

> outside of breast feeding or raw milk/cream. You cannot have too

much.

> And if you do a fast once a week, your friendly bacteria will turn on

> any yeast in your gut (and you have it) and it will eat it. A great

> way

> to help speed up a proper balance between yeast and probiotics.

>

> Gerry

>

>

>

>> Chronic myelogenous leukemia (CML)

>> chromosomes cause uncontrolled reproduction and proliferation of all

> types

>> of white blood cells and platelets (blood clotting factors)

>>

>> For what it's worth department, I have leukemia HCL, and managing

>> it with

>> LDN

>> Low Dose Naltrexone, but it is a script drug, cheap but it is

doing a

> great

>> job of balancing my immune system, which in turn is keeping my

>> leukemia

> in

>> remission.

>> I read alpha lopoic acid, ALA at about six or seven hundred mgs per

>> day

> is

>> recommended by some oncologist, to help with sugar metabolism. I

>> take it

>> and if I forget it, I do feel weaker late in the day. Glucovance, a

>> type

> II

>> diabetic oral medication is receiving some notice in helping with

>> cancer,

>> and it works similiar to ALA, in helping glucose get into the cells

>> where

> it

>> is needed.

>> But I read, it is never cancer that does someone in, it is a disease

> called

>> cachexia, a wasting disease, meaning the cancer will go to all

>> means to

> feed

>> it's hungry self, taking all nourishment away, leaving nothing for

>> the

>> patient. Hydrazine sulfate, HZ is supposed to stop that.

>> I have ordered some, about sixty bux delivered, as I fear I may

>> have some

>> cachexia.

>> Some say it helps stop the cancer.

>>

>> Thanks Gerry, I like your imputs, david

>>

>>

>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Gerry Simpkins<gsim@...

<mailto:gsim%40tds.net> <gsim

>> %40tds.net>>

> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> ,

>>>

>>> Have heard of several inexpensive, yet potent means to cure most

>>> cancers. Will list as follows:

>>>

>>> Budwig diet (do a search. There is a book since Dr Elena Budwig may

>>> have died)

>>> Raw lemon juice sweetened with raw honey to raise body pH. (I

know a

>>> woman who did 6 glasses a day. Took 20 lemons daily to do that)

>>> Vit C with Lysine (most anyone can easily take 20 Grams of Vit C

>>> daily.

>>> No Known limit until you have loose bowels.)

>>> Laetrile (Do a search. Also called Vit B17)

>>> Eliminate sugars, reduce yeast and starch drastically. ( can

sweeten

>>> things using honey or Kal brand Stevia)

>>>

>>> I know a man in Boston who cured himself of IGK Myeloma with Budwig

>>> alone. Took him 3 months. Central to that protocol is to take a

>>> cup of

>>> cottage cheese mixed with a half cup flaxseed oil, 3 times a day.

>>> Laetrile is bitter, so easiest to take mixed in a salad or maybe

>>> oatmeal, cream of wheat, apple sauce, etc. Can not be cooked.

>>> Numerous

>>> suppliers on the internet.

>>>

>>> There are other protocols. You are in the right forum to find them

>>> too.

>>>

>>> Gerry

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Hopeful for help.

>>>>

>>>> I have a very dear lady friend who is a total heath freak and

great

>>>> herbalist. She is living with her daughter and family, but has

been

>>>> very weak and ill for months. Been going to a chiropracter who

sent

>>>> her ot a doctor for blood tests. Her white blood count was over 5

>>>> times the high normal (65). She is going to an oncologist next

week

>>>> for verification, but I know for a fact she will not take anything

>>>> allipathic.

>>>> She would do a natural protocol.

>>>> She has been to weak to use the internet herself and phoned me to

>>>> do

>>>> what research I could.

>>>>

>>>> Any and all comments, sugestions links would be most apreciated.

>>>>

>>>> With all my thanks and gratitude.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>> --

>>> Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of

>>> all

> good

>>> things.

>>>

>>> G. Simpkins

>>>

>>>

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Hi ,

Kids are tough! I gave some grains to a local Amish farmer (from whom

I was buying raw milk) He loved it but even he couldn't get his kids

to drink it. I guess the best route is to mix with 'good' sugars or

fruits, trying to use as little as possible as they become accustomed

to the tang.

In the beginning, I sometimes poured off the whey before stirring and

straining, hoping for a thicker, more yogurt-like consistency. Then I

learned how very very nutritious whey is and realized I was 'throwing

the baby out with the bath-water'. I got over my yogurt envy.

Eventually, as is the case with something that likes the body, the

body began to like it back and I began to like it for what exactly it

is.

Be well,

Léna

Thank you SO much Lena...some great information here.

I think you may have something there as far as rinsing my grains. I

will try

that as soon as I finish the batch I currently made. I may just been

making

too much at a time (currently a quart...used to be a half gallon at a

time).

I have to get the right ratios as I'd like my kids to drink it and

they do

need something semi-sweet so I think the maple syrup will be a great

addition to try!

Re: leukemia

Hi ,

Although now I sweeten my kefir now with stevia, trying to avoid

sugar, I've found in the past that a little maple syrup in kefir makes

a wonderful bedtime drink. I've experimented with lots of things and

there seems to be something in the maple, manganese maybe, that seems

to really aid sleep, or my adrenals, or something, letting me sleep

with fewer interruptions.

Congratulations on having some grains coming to you!

Be well,

Léna

Obviously if I had good common sense, I would be taking Kefir, have it

on

order, that is the starter, should be here within the week, I am

thinking,

and thanks for the heads up.

stay well, will keep you posted, david

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Gerry Simpkins <gsim@...

<mailto:gsim%40tds.net> > wrote:

>

>

> ,

>

> Do investigate and take Kefir. It replenishes the friendly bacteria

in

> the gut. That is 80% of the immune system. Easy to make at home using

> milk. Cheap and is fastest way to build up friendly gut bacteria,

> outside of breast feeding or raw milk/cream. You cannot have too

much.

> And if you do a fast once a week, your friendly bacteria will turn on

> any yeast in your gut (and you have it) and it will eat it. A great

> way

> to help speed up a proper balance between yeast and probiotics.

>

> Gerry

>

>

>

>> Chronic myelogenous leukemia (CML)

>> chromosomes cause uncontrolled reproduction and proliferation of all

> types

>> of white blood cells and platelets (blood clotting factors)

>>

>> For what it's worth department, I have leukemia HCL, and managing

>> it with

>> LDN

>> Low Dose Naltrexone, but it is a script drug, cheap but it is

doing a

> great

>> job of balancing my immune system, which in turn is keeping my

>> leukemia

> in

>> remission.

>> I read alpha lopoic acid, ALA at about six or seven hundred mgs per

>> day

> is

>> recommended by some oncologist, to help with sugar metabolism. I

>> take it

>> and if I forget it, I do feel weaker late in the day. Glucovance, a

>> type

> II

>> diabetic oral medication is receiving some notice in helping with

>> cancer,

>> and it works similiar to ALA, in helping glucose get into the cells

>> where

> it

>> is needed.

>> But I read, it is never cancer that does someone in, it is a disease

> called

>> cachexia, a wasting disease, meaning the cancer will go to all

>> means to

> feed

>> it's hungry self, taking all nourishment away, leaving nothing for

>> the

>> patient. Hydrazine sulfate, HZ is supposed to stop that.

>> I have ordered some, about sixty bux delivered, as I fear I may

>> have some

>> cachexia.

>> Some say it helps stop the cancer.

>>

>> Thanks Gerry, I like your imputs, david

>>

>>

>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Gerry Simpkins<gsim@...

<mailto:gsim%40tds.net> <gsim

>> %40tds.net>>

> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> ,

>>>

>>> Have heard of several inexpensive, yet potent means to cure most

>>> cancers. Will list as follows:

>>>

>>> Budwig diet (do a search. There is a book since Dr Elena Budwig may

>>> have died)

>>> Raw lemon juice sweetened with raw honey to raise body pH. (I

know a

>>> woman who did 6 glasses a day. Took 20 lemons daily to do that)

>>> Vit C with Lysine (most anyone can easily take 20 Grams of Vit C

>>> daily.

>>> No Known limit until you have loose bowels.)

>>> Laetrile (Do a search. Also called Vit B17)

>>> Eliminate sugars, reduce yeast and starch drastically. ( can

sweeten

>>> things using honey or Kal brand Stevia)

>>>

>>> I know a man in Boston who cured himself of IGK Myeloma with Budwig

>>> alone. Took him 3 months. Central to that protocol is to take a

>>> cup of

>>> cottage cheese mixed with a half cup flaxseed oil, 3 times a day.

>>> Laetrile is bitter, so easiest to take mixed in a salad or maybe

>>> oatmeal, cream of wheat, apple sauce, etc. Can not be cooked.

>>> Numerous

>>> suppliers on the internet.

>>>

>>> There are other protocols. You are in the right forum to find them

>>> too.

>>>

>>> Gerry

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Hopeful for help.

>>>>

>>>> I have a very dear lady friend who is a total heath freak and

great

>>>> herbalist. She is living with her daughter and family, but has

been

>>>> very weak and ill for months. Been going to a chiropracter who

sent

>>>> her ot a doctor for blood tests. Her white blood count was over 5

>>>> times the high normal (65). She is going to an oncologist next

week

>>>> for verification, but I know for a fact she will not take anything

>>>> allipathic.

>>>> She would do a natural protocol.

>>>> She has been to weak to use the internet herself and phoned me to

>>>> do

>>>> what research I could.

>>>>

>>>> Any and all comments, sugestions links would be most apreciated.

>>>>

>>>> With all my thanks and gratitude.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>> --

>>> Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of

>>> all

> good

>>> things.

>>>

>>> G. Simpkins

>>>

>>>

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I am particularly intersted in leukemia since my brother also had leukemia

over 5 years ago, and I gave him pau 'd arco tea (a potent anti-fungal) and

poke root tincture to take at the same time as his conventional treatment of

which he only partly completed. You may ask, what does fungi have to do with

leukemia? Let me direct you to a very interesting webpage that discusses the

mplications of fungi and leukemia. View at:

http://www.loveoffering.com/fungus.htm

You will discover that many times a fungi infection can be mistaken for

leukemia.

Here was another post, I did a few years ago on leukemia:

I just happened to be rereading a very interesting medical text from 1955,

PATHOGENESIS OF CANCER by MD. In one passage he is talking

about leukemia. He writes:

" The various forms of leukemia which are found in man are imitated to a

surprising degree in the mouse. It is becoming obvious that the leukemia of

man and the lower animals are analogous. Drs. Fouth and Stubbs reported in

1931 that they had taken blood from leukemic chickens, injected it into

other chickens and produced sarcoma at point of injection. Leukemia, a

cancerous disease of the blood forming organs can be induced by a virus

filtered from cancerous blood. This virus can localize not only in the blood

forming organs, but under some conditions in other cells, and thereby

produce new types of cancer. "

I was up at my brother's house after reading the above passage and told him

what I read about leukemia. A light bulb went off in his head and he told me

right before he came down with his leukemia, he was eating a ground turkey

burger upon which a very thin sliver of a turkey bone had pierced his upper

gum. After which, he developed all types of sores in his mouth and nostrals

days later and, then soon after, experienced the initial affects of

leukemia.

-------------------------

I do darkfield blood work. I have finally came to the conclusion in the last

few years that he has a form of fungi in his blood after examing his blood

off and on. He must be carrying a heavy load as I have taken 3 blood samples

and each sample seemed to contains this organism. After taking a third blood

sample, I have unfailingly viewed in each of his blood samples this very

unusual fungi growth. The first samples were viewed in blood that were not

treated with my Acridine Orange/DMSO stain, nor was it observed under

fluorescence, only darkfield, and this sample seemed to present the freest

and fastest growing samples of the fungi when it was incubated. My

subsequent next 2 blood samples were treated with a biologic stain, Acridine

Orange/DMSO and though the fungi was still present in these latter two

samples, its growth and viability seemed to be sharply checked, I presume

because of the presence of Acridine orange which binds with DNA. I will

attach three photos of what I am seeing in his blood in progressing time

increments of initial sighting after 6 hours, and after 24 hours--all from

the first unstained blood sample. The white rings of various shapes are red

blood cells. The white, often granular blobs around the fungi are white

blood cells.

It appears to me that this fungi belongs to the Alternaria family.

Note that I was very worried that my blood samples had been contaminated

during the blood lanceting and slide preparation process, but with each

succeeding blood specimen, I took, I was more and more careful with sterile

technique. Nevertheless, the same fungi seems to be always in his blood.

The fungi in my brother's blood belongs to the Alternaria family. I found

the below interesting case online that involves a man with that type of

fungi infection:

" We report a case of cutaneous alternariosis in a 69-year-old male

patient. Durin hospitalization for treatment of the skin disorder, acute

myeloid leukaemia was diagnosed. He received multiple chemotherapeutic

agents but the leukaemia remained refractory to therapy and the patient

died. The clinical picture, diagnosis and treatment of cutaneous

alternariosis will be discussed and a review of the literature regarding

patients with haematological diseases will be given. "

To translate in other words, a patient was admitted in a Greek hospital with

a skin infection involving the alternaria fungus. While there, it was

discovered he had acute myeloid leukaemia (as my brother had). My question

is, which came first? The alternaria infection or his leukemia? I know the

medical establishment probably thinks the patient's fungal infection was a

result of the poor immune function resulting from the leukemia,,,,,,,,,,,but

why not consider that the alternaria may have contributed to the leukemia?

Mmmmmmmmm??

My theory in my brother's case is that he is carrying a perpetual fungal

infection in his blood plasma and his immune system seems to be able to keep

it well under control while he is in good health. Should his immune system

become impaired,,,,,,,,,,he better look out! Funny thing. When I put his

blood on the slide, of course, his natural immunity ceases to be much of a

factor which allows this fungus to start growing unchecked.

doug

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Update:

Thanks so much to all that responded both online and personally. The diagnosis

from the oncologist today was severe acute lymphatic leukemia. Evidently one of

the fastest. With immediate treatment, he hoped for an 80% chance of recovery.

Without treatment, 3 months at most. She seemed to have a lot of confidence in

the doctor, who was careing and compassionate. She had confidence in him, which

was very surprising.

She has been useing milk and water kefir as well a Kombucha Tea for over 20

years. She was a moderater on some of those forums, and when she moved to

Indiana to stay with her daughter found an Amish farmer who sold her raw milk

for $2. a gal. She uses only liquid stevia for sweetenings, except for some good

maple syrup. She buys coconut oil by the 4 gal. case. Never eats processed

foods, or anything factory canned. Now my question is, does anyone know of a

safe herb or such that will augment the chemo. and make it more effective while

at the same time, lesson the side effects of the chemo.? I guess she will be as

bald as me,but mine is hereditary.

Thanks again, and to Garner for this wonderful site.

>

> Hopeful for help.

>

> I have a very dear lady friend who is a total heath freak and great herbalist.

She is living with her daughter and family, but has been very weak and ill for

months. Been going to a chiropracter who sent her ot a doctor for blood tests.

Her white blood count was over 5 times the high normal (65). She is going to an

oncologist next week for verification, but I know for a fact she will not take

anything allipathic.

> She would do a natural protocol.

> She has been to weak to use the internet herself and phoned me to do what

research I could.

>

> Any and all comments, sugestions links would be most apreciated.

>

> With all my thanks and gratitude.

>

>

>

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/oleandersoup/

This WIll not make the chemo work better, but it will mitigate the side

effects of chemo, and kills cancer on its own--the oleander plant. If you

live in the south where oleander grows you can quickly make your own 'soup'

(tincture) but if not, you can order capsules of the dried soup powder. It

s all explained at the group, and they are very helpful. Also, many other

therapies are discussed. The owner of the list has a website at

http://www.tbyil.com and he has a good anti-cancer protocol listed there

with all the best info that he has found.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Now my question is, does anyone know of a safe herb or such that will

augment the chemo. and make it more effective while at the same time, lesson

the side effects of the chemo.? I guess she will be as bald as me,but mine

is hereditary.

Thanks again, and to Garner for this wonderful site.

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,

She might want to look into LDN (Low Dose Naltrexone). I believe it

will work with chemo. Google LDN --there is a tone of information

available. Here are a few sites to get started:

www.ldnscience.com

++++

This section of the site in particular may be of primary interest to

a practitioner.

http://www.ldnscience.org/low-dose-naltrexone-ldn

++++

There is a group just for people with cancer. Here is that link:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_4_cancer/

+++++++

Mara

>

> Update:

> Thanks so much to all that responded both online and personally.

> The diagnosis from the oncologist today was severe acute lymphatic

> leukemia. Evidently one of the fastest. With immediate treatment,

> he hoped for an 80% chance of recovery. Without treatment, 3 months

> at most. She seemed to have a lot of confidence in the doctor, who

> was careing and compassionate. She had confidence in him, which was

> very surprising.

> She has been useing milk and water kefir as well a Kombucha Tea for

> over 20 years. She was a moderater on some of those forums, and

> when she moved to Indiana to stay with her daughter found an Amish

> farmer who sold her raw milk for $2. a gal. She uses only liquid

> stevia for sweetenings, except for some good maple syrup. She buys

> coconut oil by the 4 gal. case. Never eats processed foods, or

> anything factory canned. Now my question is, does anyone know of a

> safe herb or such that will augment the chemo. and make it more

> effective while at the same time, lesson the side effects of the

> chemo.? I guess she will be as bald as me,but mine is hereditary.

>

> Thanks again, and to Garner for this wonderful site.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Hopeful for help.

> >

> > I have a very dear lady friend who is a total heath freak and

> great herbalist. She is living with her daughter and family, but

> has been very weak and ill for months. Been going to a chiropracter

> who sent her ot a doctor for blood tests. Her white blood count was

> over 5 times the high normal (65). She is going to an oncologist

> next week for verification, but I know for a fact she will not take

> anything allipathic.

> > She would do a natural protocol.

> > She has been to weak to use the internet herself and phoned me to

> do what research I could.

> >

> > Any and all comments, sugestions links would be most apreciated.

> >

> > With all my thanks and gratitude.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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there are some papers there since 1938 and later

clearly indicating that with leukemia there is much

less or even *no* vitamin c at all in blood associated.

Therefore may be could be an idea giving higher

amounts of ascorbic acid over the whole day.

Could also be i.V.

Matthias

Am 11.12.2010 00:42, schrieb P:

>

>

> Update:

> Thanks so much to all that responded both online and personally. The

> diagnosis from the oncologist today was severe acute lymphatic

> leukemia. Evidently one of the fastest. With immediate treatment, he

> hoped for an 80% chance of recovery. Without treatment, 3 months at

> most. She seemed to have a lot of confidence in the doctor, who was

> careing and compassionate. She had confidence in him, which was very

> surprising.

> She has been useing milk and water kefir as well a Kombucha Tea for

> over 20 years. She was a moderater on some of those forums, and when

> she moved to Indiana to stay with her daughter found an Amish farmer

> who sold her raw milk for $2. a gal. She uses only liquid stevia for

> sweetenings, except for some good maple syrup. She buys coconut oil by

> the 4 gal. case. Never eats processed foods, or anything factory

> canned. Now my question is, does anyone know of a safe herb or such

> that will augment the chemo. and make it more effective while at the

> same time, lesson the side effects of the chemo.? I guess she will be

> as bald as me,but mine is hereditary.

>

> Thanks again, and to Garner for this wonderful site.

>

>

>

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Likely she should include milkthistle to strengthen her liver. Kefir

for sure since the chemo will kill off her gut probiotics. Liver may

be strained tremendously by chemo. To manage symptoms of toxic shock

from the chemo, she can take low-dose naltrexone. It can be had with no

prescription from:

www.alldaychemist.com Not expensive at all, and many on this forum

have had great success with symptom management using it for a wide

variety of ailments. They range from Lymes, Lupus, all the way to

Leukemia and other cancers.

Her doc will not prescribe it because in her case it is off-label usage.

(It was originally developed to help people quit heroin and other

addictive drugs, and the patent ran out long ago. That is also likely

another reason that few docs prescribe it. Too cheap.)

I would strongly recommend the Budwig diet/protocol too. Will have no

effect on the chemo, and can only help.

Gerry

>

>

> Update:

> Thanks so much to all that responded both online and personally. The

> diagnosis from the oncologist today was severe acute lymphatic

> leukemia. Evidently one of the fastest. With immediate treatment, he

> hoped for an 80% chance of recovery. Without treatment, 3 months at

> most. She seemed to have a lot of confidence in the doctor, who was

> careing and compassionate. She had confidence in him, which was very

> surprising.

> She has been useing milk and water kefir as well a Kombucha Tea for

> over 20 years. She was a moderater on some of those forums, and when

> she moved to Indiana to stay with her daughter found an Amish farmer

> who sold her raw milk for $2. a gal. She uses only liquid stevia for

> sweetenings, except for some good maple syrup. She buys coconut oil by

> the 4 gal. case. Never eats processed foods, or anything factory

> canned. Now my question is, does anyone know of a safe herb or such

> that will augment the chemo. and make it more effective while at the

> same time, lesson the side effects of the chemo.? I guess she will be

> as bald as me,but mine is hereditary.

>

> Thanks again, and to Garner for this wonderful site.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Hopeful for help.

> >

> > I have a very dear lady friend who is a total heath freak and great

> herbalist. She is living with her daughter and family, but has been

> very weak and ill for months. Been going to a chiropracter who sent

> her ot a doctor for blood tests. Her white blood count was over 5

> times the high normal (65). She is going to an oncologist next week

> for verification, but I know for a fact she will not take anything

> allipathic.

> > She would do a natural protocol.

> > She has been to weak to use the internet herself and phoned me to do

> what research I could.

> >

> > Any and all comments, sugestions links would be most apreciated.

> >

> > With all my thanks and gratitude.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

--

Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of all good

things.

G. Simpkins

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I went to that site and no LDN shows up there. I have been looking for a source.

Pat

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To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 6:22:59 AM

Subject: Re: Re: leukemia

 

Likely she should include milkthistle to strengthen her liver. Kefir

for sure since the chemo will kill off her gut probiotics. Liver may

be strained tremendously by chemo. To manage symptoms of toxic shock

from the chemo, she can take low-dose naltrexone. It can be had with no

prescription from:

www.alldaychemist.com Not expensive at all, and many on this forum

have had great success with symptom management using it for a wide

variety of ailments. They range from Lymes, Lupus, all the way to

Leukemia and other cancers.

Her doc will not prescribe it because in her case it is off-label usage.

(It was originally developed to help people quit heroin and other

addictive drugs, and the patent ran out long ago. That is also likely

another reason that few docs prescribe it. Too cheap.)

I would strongly recommend the Budwig diet/protocol too. Will have no

effect on the chemo, and can only help.

Gerry

>

>

> Update:

> Thanks so much to all that responded both online and personally. The

> diagnosis from the oncologist today was severe acute lymphatic

> leukemia. Evidently one of the fastest. With immediate treatment, he

> hoped for an 80% chance of recovery. Without treatment, 3 months at

> most. She seemed to have a lot of confidence in the doctor, who was

> careing and compassionate. She had confidence in him, which was very

> surprising.

> She has been useing milk and water kefir as well a Kombucha Tea for

> over 20 years. She was a moderater on some of those forums, and when

> she moved to Indiana to stay with her daughter found an Amish farmer

> who sold her raw milk for $2. a gal. She uses only liquid stevia for

> sweetenings, except for some good maple syrup. She buys coconut oil by

> the 4 gal. case. Never eats processed foods, or anything factory

> canned. Now my question is, does anyone know of a safe herb or such

> that will augment the chemo. and make it more effective while at the

> same time, lesson the side effects of the chemo.? I guess she will be

> as bald as me,but mine is hereditary.

>

> Thanks again, and to Garner for this wonderful site.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Hopeful for help.

> >

> > I have a very dear lady friend who is a total heath freak and great

> herbalist. She is living with her daughter and family, but has been

> very weak and ill for months. Been going to a chiropracter who sent

> her ot a doctor for blood tests. Her white blood count was over 5

> times the high normal (65). She is going to an oncologist next week

> for verification, but I know for a fact she will not take anything

> allipathic.

> > She would do a natural protocol.

> > She has been to weak to use the internet herself and phoned me to do

> what research I could.

> >

> > Any and all comments, sugestions links would be most apreciated.

> >

> > With all my thanks and gratitude.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

--

Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of all good

things.

G. Simpkins

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A big Amen to that, Matthias. Have read where patients with all types

of cancer have_low vitamin levels_ across the board. Also read piece by

Dr Matthias Rath that says taking large doses of Vit C with Lysine amino

is curative for many types of cancer. worst thing that can happen with

taking megadoses of vit C is that one can have runny bowels. Read of a

case of a man who had severe trauma in Australia and was brought out of

it by his family insisting on giving him vit C. This never happened

until they were talking with the family about pulling the plug on his

intravaneous feeding and water intake. (Government healtlhcare there

does that. Rationing, just like we will have when it takes effect here)

He woke up! Then the hospital discontinued the vit C and he relapsed.

Took a court order to get it restored! Then he was transferred to a

recovery hospital where again, they refused to give him vit C and again

he languished. Again they went to court and forced the issue with the

2nd hospital. He recovered and is in very good health today. His

family had to fight the medical establishment and the govt healthcare

system tooth and nail all the way. They are a wealthy family too.

Gerry

>

> there are some papers there since 1938 and later

> clearly indicating that with leukemia there is much

> less or even *no* vitamin c at all in blood associated.

>

> Therefore may be could be an idea giving higher

> amounts of ascorbic acid over the whole day.

> Could also be i.V.

>

> Matthias

>

> Am 11.12.2010 00:42, schrieb P:

> >

> >

> > Update:

> > Thanks so much to all that responded both online and personally. The

> > diagnosis from the oncologist today was severe acute lymphatic

> > leukemia. Evidently one of the fastest. With immediate treatment, he

> > hoped for an 80% chance of recovery. Without treatment, 3 months at

> > most. She seemed to have a lot of confidence in the doctor, who was

> > careing and compassionate. She had confidence in him, which was very

> > surprising.

> > She has been useing milk and water kefir as well a Kombucha Tea for

> > over 20 years. She was a moderater on some of those forums, and when

> > she moved to Indiana to stay with her daughter found an Amish farmer

> > who sold her raw milk for $2. a gal. She uses only liquid stevia for

> > sweetenings, except for some good maple syrup. She buys coconut oil by

> > the 4 gal. case. Never eats processed foods, or anything factory

> > canned. Now my question is, does anyone know of a safe herb or such

> > that will augment the chemo. and make it more effective while at the

> > same time, lesson the side effects of the chemo.? I guess she will be

> > as bald as me,but mine is hereditary.

> >

> > Thanks again, and to Garner for this wonderful site.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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Alldaychemist.com sells it as 'Naltrexone'. I have seen it listed, and

many on this forum buy theirs there.

Gerry

>

> I went to that site and no LDN shows up there. I have been looking for

> a source.

> Pat

>

> ________________________________

> From: Gerry Simpkins <gsim@... <mailto:gsim%40tds.net>>

> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

> <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 6:22:59 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: leukemia

>

>

> Likely she should include milkthistle to strengthen her liver. Kefir

> for sure since the chemo will kill off her gut probiotics. Liver may

> be strained tremendously by chemo. To manage symptoms of toxic shock

> from the chemo, she can take low-dose naltrexone. It can be had with no

> prescription from:

> www.alldaychemist.com Not expensive at all, and many on this forum

> have had great success with symptom management using it for a wide

> variety of ailments. They range from Lymes, Lupus, all the way to

> Leukemia and other cancers.

>

> Her doc will not prescribe it because in her case it is off-label usage.

> (It was originally developed to help people quit heroin and other

> addictive drugs, and the patent ran out long ago. That is also likely

> another reason that few docs prescribe it. Too cheap.)

>

> I would strongly recommend the Budwig diet/protocol too. Will have no

> effect on the chemo, and can only help.

>

> Gerry

>

>

> >

> >

> > Update:

> > Thanks so much to all that responded both online and personally. The

> > diagnosis from the oncologist today was severe acute lymphatic

> > leukemia. Evidently one of the fastest. With immediate treatment, he

> > hoped for an 80% chance of recovery. Without treatment, 3 months at

> > most. She seemed to have a lot of confidence in the doctor, who was

> > careing and compassionate. She had confidence in him, which was very

> > surprising.

> > She has been useing milk and water kefir as well a Kombucha Tea for

> > over 20 years. She was a moderater on some of those forums, and when

> > she moved to Indiana to stay with her daughter found an Amish farmer

> > who sold her raw milk for $2. a gal. She uses only liquid stevia for

> > sweetenings, except for some good maple syrup. She buys coconut oil by

> > the 4 gal. case. Never eats processed foods, or anything factory

> > canned. Now my question is, does anyone know of a safe herb or such

> > that will augment the chemo. and make it more effective while at the

> > same time, lesson the side effects of the chemo.? I guess she will be

> > as bald as me,but mine is hereditary.

> >

> > Thanks again, and to Garner for this wonderful site.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Hopeful for help.

> > >

> > > I have a very dear lady friend who is a total heath freak and great

> > herbalist. She is living with her daughter and family, but has been

> > very weak and ill for months. Been going to a chiropracter who sent

> > her ot a doctor for blood tests. Her white blood count was over 5

> > times the high normal (65). She is going to an oncologist next week

> > for verification, but I know for a fact she will not take anything

> > allipathic.

> > > She would do a natural protocol.

> > > She has been to weak to use the internet herself and phoned me to do

> > what research I could.

> > >

> > > Any and all comments, sugestions links would be most apreciated.

> > >

> > > With all my thanks and gratitude.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

> --

> Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of all

> good

> things.

>

> G. Simpkins

>

>

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Hi Gerry,

its sometimes not so easy to get vitamin C

in a hospital. My father had been there for

a prostata op that he did not want to have.

There was a little stroke then after operation

and he was not able to speak. We wanted them

to use vitamin c. They told that they do not have

vitamin c i.V. Only oral they would be able to get

something. They were able of course using this

NaCl solution all the time. All in these hospitals

seems to be a scam.

I heard that in hospitals the food not even contains

enough vitamin C to prevent damage. A burger

may contain more vitamin C than a whole day meals

in a hospital. Stay away from hospitals when you

want to survive !

Matthias

Am 11.12.2010 15:10, schrieb Gerry Simpkins:

>

> A big Amen to that, Matthias. Have read where patients with all types

> of cancer have_low vitamin levels_ across the board. Also read piece by

> Dr Matthias Rath that says taking large doses of Vit C with Lysine amino

> is curative for many types of cancer. worst thing that can happen with

> taking megadoses of vit C is that one can have runny bowels. Read of a

> case of a man who had severe trauma in Australia and was brought out of

> it by his family insisting on giving him vit C. This never happened

> until they were talking with the family about pulling the plug on his

> intravaneous feeding and water intake. (Government healtlhcare there

> does that. Rationing, just like we will have when it takes effect here)

> He woke up! Then the hospital discontinued the vit C and he relapsed.

> Took a court order to get it restored! Then he was transferred to a

> recovery hospital where again, they refused to give him vit C and again

> he languished. Again they went to court and forced the issue with the

> 2nd hospital. He recovered and is in very good health today. His

> family had to fight the medical establishment and the govt healthcare

> system tooth and nail all the way. They are a wealthy family too.

>

> Gerry

>

>

> >

> > there are some papers there since 1938 and later

> > clearly indicating that with leukemia there is much

> > less or even *no* vitamin c at all in blood associated.

> >

> > Therefore may be could be an idea giving higher

> > amounts of ascorbic acid over the whole day.

> > Could also be i.V.

> >

> > Matthias

>

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Matthias,

Our intention as seniors is to avoid them except in the most dire

situations. We are 68 and 65 respectively, and we take no meds whether

prescription or over-the counter. We have both been on a 20 year

learning journey about many things. Proper nourishment and alternative

health care are only two of them. I dread the day when I have to go in

to one after the so-called national health care plan goes into effect.

I suspect that somewhere down the road, all who go to a hospital will be

checked to see if they have had all of the politically correct

vaccines. Those who have not done so, will be forced to take a battery

of vaccinations before they can be treated. I would be quite surprised

if that does not happen. Those who do not seriously take their health

care into their own hands are playing russian roulette with their

chances of living to a healthy old age. Sadly, most will not because it

requires one to do something, like learn and expend some effort. So I

fear that the dismal hospital death-per-patient stats will only get worse.

Gerry

>

> Hi Gerry,

>

> its sometimes not so easy to get vitamin C

> in a hospital. My father had been there for

> a prostata op that he did not want to have.

> There was a little stroke then after operation

> and he was not able to speak. We wanted them

> to use vitamin c. They told that they do not have

> vitamin c i.V. Only oral they would be able to get

> something. They were able of course using this

> NaCl solution all the time. All in these hospitals

> seems to be a scam.

> I heard that in hospitals the food not even contains

> enough vitamin C to prevent damage. A burger

> may contain more vitamin C than a whole day meals

> in a hospital. Stay away from hospitals when you

> want to survive !

>

> Matthias

>

> Am 11.12.2010 15:10, schrieb Gerry Simpkins:

> >

> > A big Amen to that, Matthias. Have read where patients with all types

> > of cancer have_low vitamin levels_ across the board. Also read piece by

> > Dr Matthias Rath that says taking large doses of Vit C with Lysine amino

> > is curative for many types of cancer. worst thing that can happen with

> > taking megadoses of vit C is that one can have runny bowels. Read of a

> > case of a man who had severe trauma in Australia and was brought out of

> > it by his family insisting on giving him vit C. This never happened

> > until they were talking with the family about pulling the plug on his

> > intravaneous feeding and water intake. (Government healtlhcare there

> > does that. Rationing, just like we will have when it takes effect here)

> > He woke up! Then the hospital discontinued the vit C and he relapsed.

> > Took a court order to get it restored! Then he was transferred to a

> > recovery hospital where again, they refused to give him vit C and again

> > he languished. Again they went to court and forced the issue with the

> > 2nd hospital. He recovered and is in very good health today. His

> > family had to fight the medical establishment and the govt healthcare

> > system tooth and nail all the way. They are a wealthy family too.

> >

> > Gerry

> >

> >

> > >

> > > there are some papers there since 1938 and later

> > > clearly indicating that with leukemia there is much

> > > less or even *no* vitamin c at all in blood associated.

> > >

> > > Therefore may be could be an idea giving higher

> > > amounts of ascorbic acid over the whole day.

> > > Could also be i.V.

> > >

> > > Matthias

> >

>

>

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The source would be a compounding pharmacy in the U. S. You will need a

prescription from a doctor, which should not be difficult to get, since this is

a low dose and used for many purposes.

Cathie

From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

[mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of Pat Lawrie

Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 8:37 AM

To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Subject: Re: Re: leukemia

I went to that site and no LDN shows up there. I have been looking for a source.

Pat

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From: Gerry Simpkins <gsim@... <mailto:gsim%40tds.net> >

To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

<mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 6:22:59 AM

Subject: Re: Re: leukemia

Likely she should include milkthistle to strengthen her liver. Kefir

for sure since the chemo will kill off her gut probiotics. Liver may

be strained tremendously by chemo. To manage symptoms of toxic shock

from the chemo, she can take low-dose naltrexone. It can be had with no

prescription from:

www.alldaychemist.com Not expensive at all, and many on this forum

have had great success with symptom management using it for a wide

variety of ailments. They range from Lymes, Lupus, all the way to

Leukemia and other cancers.

Her doc will not prescribe it because in her case it is off-label usage.

(It was originally developed to help people quit heroin and other

addictive drugs, and the patent ran out long ago. That is also likely

another reason that few docs prescribe it. Too cheap.)

I would strongly recommend the Budwig diet/protocol too. Will have no

effect on the chemo, and can only help.

Gerry

>

>

> Update:

> Thanks so much to all that responded both online and personally. The

> diagnosis from the oncologist today was severe acute lymphatic

> leukemia. Evidently one of the fastest. With immediate treatment, he

> hoped for an 80% chance of recovery. Without treatment, 3 months at

> most. She seemed to have a lot of confidence in the doctor, who was

> careing and compassionate. She had confidence in him, which was very

> surprising.

> She has been useing milk and water kefir as well a Kombucha Tea for

> over 20 years. She was a moderater on some of those forums, and when

> she moved to Indiana to stay with her daughter found an Amish farmer

> who sold her raw milk for $2. a gal. She uses only liquid stevia for

> sweetenings, except for some good maple syrup. She buys coconut oil by

> the 4 gal. case. Never eats processed foods, or anything factory

> canned. Now my question is, does anyone know of a safe herb or such

> that will augment the chemo. and make it more effective while at the

> same time, lesson the side effects of the chemo.? I guess she will be

> as bald as me,but mine is hereditary.

>

> Thanks again, and to Garner for this wonderful site.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Hopeful for help.

> >

> > I have a very dear lady friend who is a total heath freak and great

> herbalist. She is living with her daughter and family, but has been

> very weak and ill for months. Been going to a chiropracter who sent

> her ot a doctor for blood tests. Her white blood count was over 5

> times the high normal (65). She is going to an oncologist next week

> for verification, but I know for a fact she will not take anything

> allipathic.

> > She would do a natural protocol.

> > She has been to weak to use the internet herself and phoned me to do

> what research I could.

> >

> > Any and all comments, sugestions links would be most apreciated.

> >

> > With all my thanks and gratitude.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of all good

things.

G. Simpkins

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