Guest guest Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 Hi , you wrote: " to measure the amounts of essential amino acids in my body (precursors to the important neurotransmitters), to measure the levels of the important neuro transmitters, and to look for Candida in my digestive tract. " Could you say more about how these are assessed? And was the amino acid test the one used to determine you weren't getting/assimilating enough protein? Thanks, Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 Dear , You said: <<Testing was in the summer-fall-winter '02-'03. In the near future we're going to repeat the amino test to see if the 89% reduction in Parnate and taking crystaline aminos and generally trying to boost my protein intake is having any effect. I'm supposed to be doing whey protein isolate too but I have a sinus allergy to milk products and have stuffy sinuses and snot constantly running down my face.>> ** You may want to check this out: http://www.primaldefense.net/goateinig.htm Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 writes: >I'm supposed to be doing > whey protein isolate too but I have a sinus allergy to milk products > and have stuffy sinuses and snot constantly running down my face. There's a rice protein powder available that I use in smoothies sometimes as a protein additive. I don't do well on whey or soy myself. NutriBiotic Vegan Rice Protein. I wouldn't depend on it for a major protein source, but it's useful to have around for the occasional smoothie. You might be able to add it to stews and other mixed dishes? From Ayurveda, quality protein in sufficient quantity and good fats are SO important to support the nervous system (related to vata dosha). If I were a vegetarian who ate eggs, I'd be eating a big omlette or scramble a couple times a week :-) Eggs seem to have something very good for the nervous system. Also good fats - the omega 3's we often speak of here, olive oil, avocados, nuts and fresh nut butters. Protein and fat are both grounding in their own ways, but largely because they support the nervous system. Ayurvedic tradition contributes this piece to the puzzle. In addition to dietary awareness, you might consider using a neti pot for your sinuses (references with extensive information and articles are included at the end of my colds and flu post). I had a neti pot for a year before I had the courage to use it. I plan to write something soon on how to begin using the neti pot with ease and comfort. Of course, one should not over-use the neti if one has a nervous system on the thin edge. Moderate use of the neti can open up more than your sinuses! It can be a part of an increase in clarity and appreciation of life on all levels. Wild, eh? The colds and flu article is also useful for flu-LIKE symptoms that may occur during withdrawal and recovery. If y'all try these ideas out for flu or flu-like symptoms, let's hear the details on what you did and how it worked for you! :-)) Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 Welcome, ! This group has some very knowledgable, warm and determined people--the best in the business, in my opinion! I hope you will find the help and support you need to continue with your recovery. Blessings, Kim << I am a 42 y/o female. I have lived my entire adult life plagued by chronic Major Clinical Depression......>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 Hi ; Welcome to the group. I am 51 yr old female who was plagued by chronic major depression all my life until last year. Hang in there. What worked for me may very well not work for you but there are answers for you. And this group is great. janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 Dear Carol, You said: <<The colds and flu article is also useful for flu-LIKE symptoms that may occur during withdrawal and recovery. If y'all try these ideas out for flu or flu-like symptoms, let's hear the details on what you did and how it worked for you! :-)) >> ** I don't think it can be said that the ideas in the article are " useful " for the flu-LIKE sx that are part of withdrawal. This is not something we know. I discourage casual experimentation to find this out. Too many people get hurt this way. The sensitive chemistry that goes along with withdrawal must be taken into account. I prefer instead to take a more measured look at each new idea in relation to the individual at the moment and explore it under more controlled conditions. As can verify, a great deal of time in the first few months of my presence on the other list, was spent trying to get people to the point where they were not listening to casual recommendations. People were healthier for it. They often hung around the other list because they knew it was safer there than on most lists. I'm going to keep that safety zone here, too. If you have actual evidence it will be helpful in the particular application of the flu-like sx of withdrawal, I'll gladly look at it. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 I see the withdrawal and recovery process as a combination of purification or detox, optimal nourishing/nurturing on all levels of the person, healing any structural and functional damage in the body as far as possible, a pursuit of better solutions in life ( " If not this, then what? " ), and a pro-active continuous improvement processs of optimizing and upleveling how one lives life (life gets better and better). I see the flu-like symptoms of withdrawal as part of the purification or detox -- the body pushing toxins and garbage out of the body, the body trying to clear itself, so the person's own natural energy and vital force can rise up and prevail. I see this purification clearing the way for health as a whole-being phenomenon: physical, energetic, emotional, mental, personality, spiritual - it's all interconnected. Life, in every sense of the term, is trying to " happen. " This is basic and fundamental. I applaud a cautious approach with regard to purification, especially for those who may be sensitive or hypersensitive. People in withdrawal are, at least temporarily, sensitives or hypersensitives. Regarding evidence, as asked about, I don't have a study with stats from folks in withdrawal. All I can say is as a *lifetime* sensitive or hypersensitive myself for whom many common and popular body-detoxing methods were overwhelming and debilitating, the dual-herbal approach documented in my article has been easy on my body, and has not at all antagonized my nervous system. Therefore I believe it holds promise for the cautious research approach that suggested. The jalaneti can at times be edgy on the nervous system, and I would hesitate to recommend it to those in withdrawal without many caveats and supervision. I would speculate that later in the recovery process, when one becomes sufficiently stronger, jalaneti could be an accelerator of joyous opening on all levels. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Carbs, chocolate, potatoes... high in sugar and carbs... seems these foods are craved by the body to calm, relax, sooth..... These drugs also wreak havoc with insulin levels. the obesity problems in our country are because of the mass consumption of simple carbs -- white this, white that. I think the easiest rule to live by is not to eat the white stuff -- white bread, white rice, potatoes (unless they're the red ones), bagels, donuts, pasta, pastries what I refer to as garbage food. Here's an excerpt from an article I just read: Foods that promote the release of serotonin and other soothing chemicals can help you regain your calm. ComplexCarbs are your best bet toward this end. When you eat carb-rich foods, your body's insulin level rises. That insulin in turn lowers the blood levels of amino acids that compete with tryptophan, serotonin's precursor. With those amino acids largely out of the way, more tryptophan is available to seep into the brain and be converted into serotonin. Eat complex carbs found in fruits, vegetables, whole grains, nuts, and beans. Five foods to eat when you are stressed, and which will help calm you down are almonds, broccoli, brown rice, kale, poultry. Avoid alcohol, candy, cookies, fast food (the kiss of death as far as I'm concerned) and white bread. Blind Reason a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 I STRONGLY second this. More later. Thank you for the validation. I was afraid you had a different viewpoint, but I think this carb issue HAS only ONE viewpoint -- simple carbs are poison, complex carbs are good. That's why my oat-based granola has taken off like crazy. It balances blood sugar in the morning, eliminating glucose plummets by noon, keeps you full and satisfied and stops the cravings for all the really bad stuff. LOL Blind Reason a novel of espionage and pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 , something you said triggered my response.... I eat way too many carbs and sweets which exacerbates symptoms: Do you know about the comfort foods? Carbs, chocolate, potatoes... high in sugar and carbs... seems these foods are craved by the body to calm, relax, sooth..... but for our folks here, getting off drugs or already off and trying to heal... there seems to be problem.... these drugs damage the production of chemicals like serotonin and the only thing the body can do is to beg for the foods that will trigger production, but what happens to the poor folks who no longer have the ability to make the needed chemicals, they have not healed enough and the cravings get worse and worse.....it is a terrible circle to get into.... just something to think about hugs > > Hi ; > > > > Welcome to the group. I am 51 yr old female who was plagued by chronic > > major depression all my life until last year. Hang in there. What worked > > for me may very well not work for you but there are answers for you. > > And this group is great. janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 <<Carbs, chocolate, potatoes... high in sugar and carbs... seems these foods are craved by the body to calm, relax, sooth.....>> Glitter replied: <<These drugs also wreak havoc with insulin levels. the obesity problems in our country are because of the mass consumption of simple carbs -- white this, white that. I think the easiest rule to live by is not to eat the white stuff -- white bread, white rice, potatoes (unless they're the red ones), bagels, donuts, pasta, pastries what I refer to as garbage food. Here's an excerpt from an article I just read: Foods that promote the release of serotonin and other soothing chemicals can help you regain your calm. ComplexCarbs are your best bet toward this end. When you eat carb-rich foods, your body's insulin level rises. That insulin in turn lowers the blood levels of amino acids that compete with tryptophan, serotonin's precursor. With those amino acids largely out of the way, more tryptophan is available to seep into the brain and be converted into serotonin. Eat complex carbs found in fruits, vegetables, whole grains, nuts, and! beans. Five foods to eat when you are stressed, and which will help calm you down are almonds, broccoli, brown rice, kale, poultry. Avoid alcohol, candy, cookies, fast food (the kiss of death as far as I'm concerned) and white bread. >> ** I STRONGLY second this. More later. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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