Re: DMSO And My German Shepherd?

[Guest guest]

Uly--you are doing everything right. Many people give DMSO orally to their

dogs. You need something that covers the taste, but some find putting it in

warm milk, or warm gravy works to get the dog to take it. Start off with a

quarter teaspoon and build up to a full teaspoon.

Applying it externally, as you are doing, and internally really seems to

help a lot. Once the internal use kicks in you can sometimes discontinue

the external use.

Just don't get the pink gloves into the DMSO because it can take some of

that non-natural material and deposit it into Chief. Most people just use

their hands to rub it in--because then they are getting some DMSO too, which

is actually good for just about everyone. Only thing is--then you

smell/taste of DMSO! If you use your bare hands, remember not to have any

lotion or cream on them, as this will also be deposited onto Chief.

Great job! Chief appreciates it! Some dogs have been on oral DMSO for

years. No negative side effects.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

I'm new and just joined up DMSO yahoo group today. I have a 13 and a

Halve year old German Shepherd called Chief. The vet told me he has Hip

dysplasia and severe Arthritis in his back hips.

[Guest guest]

Uly,

You said:

> I'm trying to muster up the courage to try it again and have Faith

> in Natural healing but I am scared that no matter how hard I try or

> what I do Chief will still pass away

Only one thing we can be sure of and that is 10 out of 10 living

beings will die. So, yes, the sad truth is that we will lose our

animal and human companions at some point, no matter what we do. But

that is not to say we can't provide relief, improve quality of life,

and even extend life with the help of healing modalities. I am

certain that your Mum benefited from your knowledge and your efforts

and your love. But in the end, we must all find a way to pass on and

to endure the passing on of those we love. So please don't lose

faith in the wonderful things you have learned, or give up on your

efforts to help Chief. It sounds like Chief is already benefiting.

And through your efforts you will both learn and grow closer and

deepen the love you have. And that is what is most important. One

of the things that Skip (of Skip'spharmacy) said to me when I

consulted with him about using LDN for my dog, Chester's, lymphoma

was that it is not about quantity of life, it is about quality. If

you can improve the quality of Chief's life, you will have done a

great deal and your efforts will not have been in vain no matter what

the ultimate outcome.

warm regards,

Mara

[Guest guest]

So well said, Mara,

Uly, try not to indulge you fear; it's an old distress pattern that's

not your friend. I know it might seem like it protects the hurting

heart, but really, no.

Let your intention of Reiki and your other healing knowledge flow in

your hands. I, too am a Reiki master, and for a time, my faith in

Reiki was shaken by my Lyme, despite what Reiki had done for so many

people in my practice. Reiki never had the direct power to heal; it

only provided a special energy for the body to use to heal itself, to

rest, and most of all, to feel loved. All these things it can do

still, and the sum total of those things can bring lovely changes for

Chief and you both. This is bigger than the body, and from the sound

of what you've already been doing for Chief, you have both already

known that deep bond that will outlive the body. This will bring peace

to whatever happens next.

Be well, namasté,

Léna

Uly,

You said:

> I'm trying to muster up the courage to try it again and have Faith

> in Natural healing but I am scared that no matter how hard I try or

> what I do Chief will still pass away

Only one thing we can be sure of and that is 10 out of 10 living

beings will die. So, yes, the sad truth is that we will lose our

animal and human companions at some point, no matter what we do. But

that is not to say we can't provide relief, improve quality of life,

and even extend life with the help of healing modalities. I am

certain that your Mum benefited from your knowledge and your efforts

and your love. But in the end, we must all find a way to pass on and

to endure the passing on of those we love. So please don't lose

faith in the wonderful things you have learned, or give up on your

efforts to help Chief. It sounds like Chief is already benefiting.

And through your efforts you will both learn and grow closer and

deepen the love you have. And that is what is most important. One

of the things that Skip (of Skip'spharmacy) said to me when I

consulted with him about using LDN for my dog, Chester's, lymphoma

was that it is not about quantity of life, it is about quality. If

you can improve the quality of Chief's life, you will have done a

great deal and your efforts will not have been in vain no matter what

the ultimate outcome.

warm regards,

Mara

[Guest guest]

Ah Uly. Everyone dies. My saying is--no one gets out of this world alive.

It's natural to start doubting spiritual practices and energy practices when

you so desperately want them to work--and they don't. We see their passing

as meaning that our efforts didn't work. That's not true. Every soul has

its own agenda, and when the soul decides it's time to go home, there's

nothing anyone else can do to stop that, no matter how hard we try. But it

could be that our efforts make the transition easier. And perhaps it

brought them comfort on several different levels that we are not even aware

of.

There is a special harness you can get (several to choose from) for helping

Chief get up without straining yourself. This is about the best I've

found:

http://www.helpemup.com/flashmovie.html

You may not need the front harness, just the back one. My old dog got to

where he could not get up on his own and I bought the Bottoms Up leash.

While it did help, it was not something that could be left on him and by the

time I got it on he was getting very fussy which made it more difficult to

get him up. Today I would go with the one I linked to instead. I did not

find the helpemup until it was too late.

I also had the walking support sling. This really was helpful to me for

getting him up, and steadying him as he walked. Towards the end, though,

there was not enough support for his hind legs--it's more for steadying the

front. I tried using this and the bottoms up leash together, but it was

awkward.

Good luck,

-------Original Message-------

Chief seems to be a little better again today. He is walking a little less

wobbly and seems much brighter and happier.

[Guest guest]

Thankyou Mara for that beautiful Message....I will take it on board

Uly

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your message Lena

It was my intention to study as much as I could then open a Healing clinic

someday....Maybe if I can get my confidence back in healing I might start a

Natural Healing clinic for animals in the future?

Have you got any experience with Reiki and Animals?

When I did healing on Chief in the past He Didn't like it? Maybe it was too

strong for him or he felt weird? He seemed to like QiGong Healing tho and once I

remember he had what seemed to be a bad headache or migrane for a few days...he

really looked in pain and had a squint in one of his eyes. I did a Qi Gong

healing session and the Headache never came back?

When I did some charity work in an old age home for the paitients that had

Dementia. They were all ways walking around and couldn't sit still. After a few

weeks of Reiki the head nurse said they were much clamer. I never knew if it was

because of the medications they were on or the Reiki? I remember I had all the

Staff...Doctors, Nurse's and Kitchen staff line up after I had finished the

patient's for a Reiki Healing. Some said they had relief of headache's and Knee

problems. Some said their pain came back again after 24 hours. Was funny to see

them all waiting for a reiki treatment though lol.

I feel really close to Chief. I had 3 other dogs in the past since I was a kid

but I feel like Chief is a Brother to me more than A Dog.

Cheers

Uly

[Guest guest]

Renne I will see how chief goes. I am keen to give DMSO internally to him.

Thanks for the info

Well the pink Gloves broke so I brought a Pair of Tongs and a Pair of better

black gloves. I now where the black gloves and use the cotton pad with the tongs

and rub it in to his skin.

Yeah I am worried about other chemicals absorbing into the DMSO and going into

Chief's body.

I think Chiefs probably wouldn't mind the taste and I am not worried about the

Smell / tase, but I do it more for the benifit of anyone else I come into

contact with.

Cheers

Uly

[Guest guest]

Well My mum did say she never wanted to grow old...I guess she got her wish. Not

really fair on me and my sister and my sister's children though. Mum was only 59

when she passed

I know I relieved Mum's terrible cramps with potassium and Magnesium plus

accupressure and massage. I hope other levels of her being were healed as well

with Reiki when and she made a smooth transition.

Mum had a really crap life from the day she arrived and I didn't make things any

easier either at times. She saved my life when I was 3 and all I wanted to do

was help her. One of the last things she said in the week she died was...looks

like all your stupid healing methods don't work

anyway... I too have brought the Bottoms up leash. It never worked for Chief

When I tried to put it on him his legs would go everywhere and it would make him

pea.

Thanks for the link for the helpemup...will check it out soon.

Uly

[Guest guest]

When I came home from the Shops today, Chief was waiting at the edge of the

kitchen wagging his tail and he then licked me all over my face

He is definately getting his strength back and is happier.

I also got him outside thru the kitchen. He has a threshold at the mats with

this new phobia /fear and just won't go any further. With a lot of coaxing and

patience he went down stairs, did a wee and walked up the back ramp by himself

with out collapsing He was buggered after that but I was happy.

I also brought the Celtic sea salt. I did the did the different levels of salt

test in 3 bowls and chief drank the one with 1/2 a teaspoon of Celtic sea salt.

It was quite funny to watch...he sniffed all 3 bowls and drank some of each and

then drank all of the one with 1/2 sea salt in it lol

I will put some in his dinner tonight too.

I was so impressed with the contents of minerals and trace minerals I took some

in a glass too...maybe it will help my Astma and Chronic fatigue?

If Chief makes a full recovery I have video of when he was very bad...It might

make a good before and after testimonial somewhere?

Cheers

Uly

[Guest guest]

Uly--you have to understand that when people are close to crossing over, or

know they will soon, some become angry, some depressed, others are content.

My mother so wanted to live that she became angry, and said things she would

normally never say. If you took care of your mother for SEVEN years, then

you did enough. You did all you could do. And no matter how much their

conscious (ego) part wants to stay, when their soul part (high self, super

conscious) want to go home, it's going home.

So your mother was not at all angry with you, or disappointed with you or

your methods. She was frustrated--and perhaps a bit fearful--of letting go

of this physical life.

No one gets out of this world alive, and I personally have always wanted to

know ahead of time when I was going to die. Since I have zero fear of death

this would allow me to do things that I might not be able to do

otherwise--always putting things off, don't 'cha know. It's human nature

to feel invincible, but when you KNOW your time is limited you take care of

it better. But, some people just cannot come to terms with death. My

Mother could not. She fought every step of the way, and I know she was

terrified, though she would never admit it. We never got to talk together

about it, as some families do.

Her sister not only came to terms with dying (she fought with cancer for

many years) she picked out her own funeral dress, her headstone, spoke to

all her family, and bought special Xmas gifts because she knew she wasn't

going to be there for that year's Xmas. Not that it was easy to let their

mother go, but everyone got to say their goodbyes to her.

It was not like that for my Mom. She fought all the way, angry and fearful,

and wouldn't talk about it. We never got to just sit down and tell each

other how much we truly loved each other. Or to say goodbye. It's just

different for each person. Understand that what she said was not about YOU,

or your efforts.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

One of the last things she said in the week she died was...looks like all

your stupid healing methods don't work

[Guest guest]

Animals are very sensitive to energy. There are some forms that they like,

some they don't. Usually it's not so much that they don't like the energy,

as that it only takes a little and then they are done with it--so they move

away. That's how we always judge when animals have had enough--they get up

and leave. Sometimes it's after just a few moments and other times they

will stay for an hour or more!

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

When I did healing on Chief in the past He Didn't like it? Maybe it was too

strong for him or he felt weird? He seemed to like QiGong Healing tho and

once I remember he had what seemed to be a bad headache or migrane for a few

days...he really looked in pain and had a squint in one of his eyes. I did a

Qi Gong healing session and the Headache never came back?

[Guest guest]

Mozeltov!

>

> When I came home from the Shops today, Chief was waiting at the edge

> of the kitchen wagging his tail and he then licked me all over my face

>

> He is definately getting his strength back and is happier.

>

> I also got him outside thru the kitchen. He has a threshold at the

> mats with this new phobia /fear and just won't go any further. With a

> lot of coaxing and patience he went down stairs, did a wee and walked

> up the back ramp by himself with out collapsing He was buggered

> after that but I was happy.

>

> I also brought the Celtic sea salt. I did the did the different levels

> of salt test in 3 bowls and chief drank the one with 1/2 a teaspoon of

> Celtic sea salt. It was quite funny to watch...he sniffed all 3 bowls

> and drank some of each and then drank all of the one with 1/2 sea salt

> in it lol

>

> I will put some in his dinner tonight too.

>

> I was so impressed with the contents of minerals and trace minerals I

> took some in a glass too...maybe it will help my Astma and Chronic

> fatigue?

>

> If Chief makes a full recovery I have video of when he was very

> bad...It might make a good before and after testimonial somewhere?

>

> Cheers

>

> Uly

>

>

--

Necessity may be the mother of invention, but God is the Father of all good

things.

G. Simpkins

[Guest guest]

Hi Uly

Well My mum did say she never wanted to grow old...I guess she got her

wish. Not really fair on me and my sister and my sister's children

though. Mum was only 59 when she passed

I know I relieved Mum's terrible cramps with potassium and Magnesium

plus accupressure and massage. I hope other levels of her being were

healed as well with Reiki when and she made a smooth transition.

Mum had a really crap life from the day she arrived and I didn't make

things any easier either at times. She saved my life when I was 3 and

all I wanted to do was help her. One of the last things she said in

the week she died was...looks like all your stupid healing methods

don't work I'm so sorry she said that! It was her illness and

negativity speaking and you must somehow cast off those words, both

for yourself and for her memory, as the best part of her would

probably like nothing better than that they had never been said.

anyway... I too have brought the Bottoms up leash. It never worked for

Chief When I tried to put it on him his legs would go everywhere

and it would make him pea.

Thanks for the link for the helpemup...will check it out soon.

Uly

[Guest guest]

I cannot say enough for fish oil, in massive quantities. It can mean a good

nights sleep because it helps with depression and sleep, helps the heart and

kidneys, is amazing for allergies, and it works a miracle for arthritis in 99%

of the dogs and people I have known to take it. On a shepard, I would give 10

times the suggested human dose, once daily or split into twice daily. This can

make the skin smell a little fishy. It can take up to 6 weeks to see the full

benefits. But, it can help in as few as 5 days. My shepard slipped on a paper

towel, was almost immediately paralyzed in the rear and with that came

debilitating arthritis once he got older. We did get him to be able to walk fair

on one leg and so so on the other one, but the spine was trashed with arthritis.

Fish oil gave me another year with my dog, and had he not slipped off the porch

in a fast walk he would have been with me longer I buy the regular strength

fish oil enteric coated caps from Sams club, really inexpensive there, and give

my dogs over 100 lbs 10-15 caps day, depending on their symptoms. I have 8 dogs,

all over 7 that have varying stages of hip and elbow dysplasia which leads to

arthritis. Some would be dead were it not for the fish oil. Me and hubby also

them at the same dose, and he has been almost allergy free for 6 years now, and

before had to have daily steroids sprayed up his nose to survive. He sleeps

better at night and is a whole lot nicer to live with, happier If you

personally take it be prepared for some out of this world dreams for a few days.

Kathy

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[Guest guest]

Well today Chief is about the same as yesterday. I have noticed that he is

getting up much better but still is having a really hard time sitting down. I am

trying to get him to walk around much more to exercise his back legs. I noticed

his fur is growing back really fast too where I shaved it and apply the DMSO. He

is still sleeping alot too.

When I am putting on the DMSO I make his fur wet but not dripping. It seems to

stay wet for a good few hours. Am I using too much?

Thanks to those who wrote about keeping up my Belief systems and Doing Reiki,

QIgong and energy healing. Those messages really inspired me and I did a Reiki

Treatment on Chief today. I did a meditation 1st to re open my self to the reiki

energy then and hour later I did a Reiki Treatment on Chief. It was very

relaxing for both Me and Chief. When Chief strechted his legs and woke up over

20mins later I thought that was a time to stop

That was interesting on Attuning a cockatoo to Reiki 1...I never considered

Attuneing an animal to reiki

Good info on Fish oil there. I think I will keep Chief on what he is on for now

and see how it goes. If he gets worse I will try the fish oil. I think I would

go for the Fish oil liquid rather than the Gel Caps as I have read some report

that some dogs got sick from the Gel Caps. If after this initial treatment phase

I might look into fish oil for Chief...lots of options not enough money lol

The thing I like most at the moment is the blackstrp mollasses. I am taking it

my self and have noticed a reduction in taking my Asthma spry medication.

Chlorella is very good for a lot of things...it would be great for someone to

test it and see if the DMSO taste / smell goes away?

I would start using DMSO on myself then

Uly

[Guest guest]

Many people find chewing parsley after taking DMSO is enough to stop the

taste/smell on their breath. Others use liquid chlorophyll the same way.

You are fine the way you are wetting the hair. It will stay damp for a

while. My arthritic dog also had a hard time sitting. I don't know if it's

because they know it makes it harder to get up--or, more likely in my dogs

case--when he sat his legs would splay forward so that he could not use

them to get back up at all. Or, perhaps the sitting position just hurts the

tail bone/spine more.

Letting him lay down mostly is fine so long as he gets up often during the

day to walk around a bit.

You may be one of the people that DMSO doesn't smell bad on. I hardly get

any DMSO taste or smell at all when I use it. It has seemed that a person

who is more toxic has a much greater reaction to the DMSO, so that they will

actually smell so bad they have to quit using it when they know they will be

around people. I have a friend who was like that. It smelled so bad on

him--he reeked of garlic and sulfur, so that even his wife didn't want to be

around him. So he quit taking it except when he really really needed it.

But as he got healthier and healthier, and less and less toxic, he was

better able to take it so that now he can take it and has almost no body

odor from it at all.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Chlorella is very good for a lot of things...it would be great for someone

to test it and see if the DMSO taste / smell goes away?

[Guest guest]

" more likely in my dogs

case--when he sat his legs would splay forward so that he could not use

them to get back up at all. "

Yeah, This is what Chief is doing. I have been putting DMSO on the large tendon

that connects from the muscle at the back of his upper leg to his ankle, And

also all his Knee and ankle joints because he felt so stiff in these areas. He

is getting up with nearly no strain now. Sitting and Laying he still seems to

have a lot of trouble.

Yeah it makes sense that the healthier you are the less the DMSO would smell.

Uly

[Guest guest]

" Many people give DMSO orally to their dogs. You need something that covers the

taste, but some find putting it in warm milk, or warm gravy works to get the dog

to take it. Start off with a quarter teaspoon and build up to a full teaspoon. "

Ok i'm going to try giving Chief DMSO orally...As I am using the 99.9% strength

I will water it down a bit with De mineralised water.

How many times a day do I give the 1/4 teaspoon to Chief?

How long should I take to build up to the full teaspoon?

Any other tips for Chief to take it internally?

I am also giving Chief 2 teaspoons of msm 3 times a day do I have to cut down on

the MSM?

Uly

[Guest guest]

I owned a lab mix over 20 years ago and one day out of the clear blue sky he

just could not get up off the floor. He was over 80 pounds and lifting him up to

go to outside was difficult. yes he would go to the bathroom laying down. This

went on for a couple of days...after trying everything I could think of. The

third day...I called my homeopathic teacher and she asked if he had been exposed

to any vaccines...I said no...he had never had a vaccine. But our other lab mix

had just recently been vaccinated by the dog shelter. She said to give him

Bryonia 30x and Rhus Tox 30x alternately every half hour or so. After three

doses of each the dog sat right up and walked across the room and never had the

problem again. Now I own a 5 yr old 70 pound lab that is in perfect health she

recently started limping (had been exposed to a couple of strange dogs at the

park). She was having trouble going up the stairs...I remembered that long ago

lesson and gave her the same remedies she was well within two days. It just

might help your dog recover faster...both remedies are well know for helping

arthritis and will not hurt the dog in any way. I hope this helps. Good

luck....

[Guest guest]

Hi Dianne,

I have been doing some research into glucosamine sulfate. I have found out why

it never worked in the past...The one's on the shelf at the chemist seem to been

inferior quality

I have found what seems to be a decent brand here in australia.

http://www.flexicose.com.au/

I am thinking of using it after I have finished the Green lipped muscle on

Chief, Because it says just like you have that it not only reduces infamation

but also rebuilds the joint. Something I don't think the Green lipped muscle

does?

Cheif need to rebuild the hip joint and cartilage because I think the DMSO is

just relieving his pain?

I have also found out that some Gel cap tablets can pass right through the body

with out even dispencing their contents....will stick to liquids from now on.

Cheers and thanks for making me aware of glucosamine sulfate

Uly

>

> Hi Uly,

>

> Sounds to me as though you are doing everything right. I don't think you will

always have to shave your dog. DMSO has a remarkable ability to penetrate, but

for the time being, I'd keep going the way you are.

>

> There is one other thing I would use, glucosamine sulfate. I've used it on

myself with remarkable results. For me, it doesn't just relieve pain, it seems

to help rebuild the worn cartilage, and the results have lasted me about ten

years. I know Vets who are using it in the US.

>

> I can vouch for the product made by Enzymatic Therapy. It comes in powder form

and is unflavored. I think your dog would take it dissolved in water.

>

> I wish you many more years with Chief.

>

> Dianne

>