Cetomacrogol Emulsifying Wax

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Good morning everyone,

This is the first time I have posted to this forum even though I have been

lurking here for some months. I have gleaned so much technical information

and insight into the formulation process that I must thank everyone on the

list for sharing their incredible and hard won knowledge. I am on a

constant learning curve with the information from this group. Thankyou. I

do not post often because I find that by the time I have read something in

digest form the answer has already been given or my experience does not yet

cover the field.

For some months I have been using a cetomacrogol emulsifying wax which I

formulate with 4 parts cetostearyl alcohol and 1 part cetomacrogol 1000. I

love the sinkability of this emulsifier and the 'wet' feel I get from the

creams and lotions made with this. Unfortunately my supplier's (in Western

Australia) premises burnt down and are no longer able to supply these

products.

Can anyone recommend an emulsifying wax with the same formulation as the

above? I am sure that it must be available as a complete product as it is

used in so many formulations... I think even in the ever present sorbelene

creams of old. I have searched the archives for cetomacrogol to no avail.

Of course once I discover the brand name of the product then we have to find

a source in Western Australia. That is a totally different challenge.

Thankyou again for such a wonderful list. I do hope that at some stage I

will have learnt enough and have 'played' enough with my own formulations to

be able to give back some of what this list has given to me.

Regards

Leonie Gully

Moon-haven Soaps, Lotions & Potions

Western Australia

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On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 07:59:18 +0800, Leonie (Moon-Haven) wrote:

>For some months I have been using a cetomacrogol emulsifying wax which I

>formulate with 4 parts cetostearyl alcohol and 1 part cetomacrogol 1000. I

>love the sinkability of this emulsifier and the 'wet' feel I get from the

>creams and lotions made with this.

That is so cool. When you are making your own emulsifying wax, you are

making a self-emulsifying fatty alcohol. In your particular case, your

emulsifier is Cetomacrogol 1000 and your fatty alcohol is Cetostearyl Alcohol.

>Can anyone recommend an emulsifying wax with the same formulation as the

>above?

The INCI name for Cetomacrogol 1000 is Ceteth-20.

The INCI name for Cetostearyl Alcohol is Cetearyl Alcohol.

I could only find three raw materials that that have an INCI name of

Cetearyl Alcohol and Ceteth-20.

Jeecol NIN (Jeen)

Jeen International Corporation

24 Madison Road

Fairfield, NJ 07004

Tel:

FAX:

Web: http://www.jeen.com

Procol NIN (Protameen)

Protameen Chemicals, Inc.

375 Minnisink Road

P.O. Box 166

Totawa, NJ 07511-

Tel:

FAX:

Web: http://www.protameen.com/

Lipowax NI (Lipo)

Lipo Chemicals Inc.

Director of Business Operations

207 19th Avenue

Paterson, NJ 07504-

Tel:

FAX:

Web: http://www.lipochemicals.com/

Lipo products are distributed in Australia by:

Bronson & s PTY. Ltd.

Parkview Drive

Australia Centre

Homebush Bay NSW 2140

Australia

Tel: (612) 9394-3288

Fax: (612) 9394-3222

>I am sure that it must be available as a complete product as it is

>used in so many formulations... I think even in the ever present sorbelene

>creams of old.

How do you know this. It's difficult to tell from an ingredient list.

> I have searched the archives for cetomacrogol to no avail.

>Of course once I discover the brand name of the product then we have to find

>a source in Western Australia. That is a totally different challenge.

Lets take a closer look at the emulsifier. The HLB of Ceteth-20 is

15.7 ñ 1 and the HLB of Ceteareth-20 is 15.2 ñ 1.

Emulsifying Wax that are blends of Cetearyl Alcohol and Ceteareth-20

are very popular and should be available in Australia.

Do you have another source of raw materials in your part of Australia?

Or did you plan on importing chemicals?

Maurice

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Maurice O. Hevey

Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com

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> >For some months I have been using a cetomacrogol emulsifying wax which I

> >formulate with 4 parts cetostearyl alcohol and 1 part cetomacrogol 1000. I

> >love the sinkability of this emulsifier and the 'wet' feel I get from the

> >creams and lotions made with this.

Hello Leonie and Maurice,

This is a formula that was taught to me by a chemist 25 years ago...I've been

using it ever since and it has never let me down. This emulsion is almost

impossible to break and the texture of the lotion/cream is lovely.

Whose business has burned down Leonie? I'm really intrigued!

Nerys

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