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Jen,

I'm probably going to get blasted for saying this, but oh well. I

think you should go w/the DOCband. I say this b/c your are guaranteed

to have an orthotist that is EXPERIENCED in treating plagiocephaly.

You don't have any time to waste. Time is NOT on your side. The

window to correct plagio isn't a big one. You need an ortho that

knows what they are doing and HAS treated older babies. You can get

the with a DOCband ortho. If I offended anyone, I'm sorry. This is

just my opinion, I'm not saying the STARband is a bad product because

it's not. Please let us know what you decide.

--- In Plagiocephaly , " Reck " <reckjb@g...>

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> Hi everyone,

>

> We met with the Ortho today that Aetna is requiring me to use if I

want coverage. As I already posted, she has 1 year under her belt,

and 11 patients to date, actually 13 now as of yesterday. This was

our primary concern. I will post what I found out today and would

love feedback from everyone. I still feel very confused.....

>

> Of the 13 patients, 5 have completed their treatment. Of those 5,

all received 100% correction. My son would be the oldest child she

has ever treated. (13 mo by the time we get him casted) She has only

treated younger babies.

>

> She is compiling a before and after portfolio, but does not

currently have one for me to look at. (About 2 weeks) She said until

recently she could not get parents to agree to allow their child's to

be used. She did offer to give me contact information for patient

referrals. I know you are all thinking no way.....

>

> But, she was very nice and spent an hour with us. She answered all

my questions and believe me I had 4 pages worth, lol! She did take

the Starband training in CA and seems very knowledgeable. She would

be seeing him weekly for adjustments and told us if we had a

problem., she would fit us in that day regardless of her schedule.

>

> I do have several discrepancy questions. Why does the DocBand

require more than one band in severe cases? She told me that he would

just need the one band and that she would adjust it for growth. She

said they do not need more than one band???? She also said that they

do not use it past 18 months, whereas the DocBand is up to 24 months.

Anyone know why?

>

> I'm sure I had more, but I have gone on long enough. Let me know

what you think! She could get us in ASAP to be casted and time is

awasting! Thanks for the help!

>

> Jen- TX

> Trentyn-1 StarBand or DocBand!

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Hi,

I wanted to let you know our ortho mentioned we may have to consider

another STARband for Olivia and her case of plagio was

moderate...started the band at 8 months. I'm not sure I believe that

your ortho said he would only have 1 band, of course starting later,

maybe the growth rate has slowed, maybe it depends on the degree of

asymmetry, too? I told our ortho that we are not getting another

band. Our insurance wouldn't cover it and I think she will get

enough correction with her current band. I'm also concerned that

your ortho has not worked with any other older children. I think

it's great, though, if you can talk to another parent whose child was

treated there.

BTW, we only go for adjustments every 4 weeks, I think it's because

they use the STARscanner. Have you considered Houston for the

STARband? I guess Aetna probably wouldn't cover it in that case. I

don't understand why Aetna wouldn't cover the DOCband? Have you

tried appealing? I know it must be a hard decision, is there anyone

else here with STARband experience in DFW?

Kat & Olivia-STARbanded 3/6/03

TX

--- In Plagiocephaly , " Reck " <reckjb@g...>

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> Hi everyone,

>

> We met with the Ortho today that Aetna is requiring me to use if I

want coverage. As I already posted, she has 1 year under her belt,

and 11 patients to date, actually 13 now as of yesterday. This was

our primary concern. I will post what I found out today and would

love feedback from everyone. I still feel very confused.....

>

> Of the 13 patients, 5 have completed their treatment. Of those 5,

all received 100% correction. My son would be the oldest child she

has ever treated. (13 mo by the time we get him casted) She has only

treated younger babies.

>

> She is compiling a before and after portfolio, but does not

currently have one for me to look at. (About 2 weeks) She said until

recently she could not get parents to agree to allow their child's to

be used. She did offer to give me contact information for patient

referrals. I know you are all thinking no way.....

>

> But, she was very nice and spent an hour with us. She answered all

my questions and believe me I had 4 pages worth, lol! She did take

the Starband training in CA and seems very knowledgeable. She would

be seeing him weekly for adjustments and told us if we had a

problem., she would fit us in that day regardless of her schedule.

>

> I do have several discrepancy questions. Why does the DocBand

require more than one band in severe cases? She told me that he would

just need the one band and that she would adjust it for growth. She

said they do not need more than one band???? She also said that they

do not use it past 18 months, whereas the DocBand is up to 24 months.

Anyone know why?

>

> I'm sure I had more, but I have gone on long enough. Let me know

what you think! She could get us in ASAP to be casted and time is

awasting! Thanks for the help!

>

> Jen- TX

> Trentyn-1 StarBand or DocBand!

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Hi Jen,

Well, you have certainly done your homework! The ortho sounds like a very

good person. It's good that you asked a million questions - how else could

you gather information and make a decision - right?! :-)

No one here can tell you what to do - you are the one in the middle of all of

this and you are the only one in this group who has visited with the ortho and

gotten a first hand impression. I would suggest that you call some of the

patients the ortho offered contact information for - talking to other moms that

have had babies treated by this ortho might really help you come to a

decision.

Not meaning to get too personal here, but is paying for the treatment out of

pocket an option for you? It wasn't an option for us when my daughter

received her helmet. Our choices were to use the locally made helmet or not

get treatment for our daughter. We did not have the time, money or resources

to travel or pay out of pocket for the DOCband. We weighed all our options

and chose to get the helmet. We kept a close eye on things and everything

turned out GREAT for us! If the $$ is not a huge obstacle then you may want to

scrap the STARband altogether and get the DOCband and hope that you

might win an appeal (long shot probably). It's easy to say just get the

DOCband and not consider anything else, but everyone's situation is different.

It simply is not an option for some and I can certainly understand that!

You'll get no judgement from me whichever way you decide to go. I

understand your dilemma, but YOU must do what you feel is best for your son

and your situation. You'll have my support whatever you decide to do. Keep

us posted and hang in there! I know this must be very tough for you.

Marci (Mom to )

Oklahoma

> Hi everyone,

>

> We met with the Ortho today that Aetna is requiring me to use if I want

coverage. As I already posted, she has 1 year under her belt, and 11 patients

to date, actually 13 now as of yesterday. This was our primary concern. I will

post what I found out today and would love feedback from everyone. I still feel

very confused.....

>

> Of the 13 patients, 5 have completed their treatment. Of those 5, all received

100% correction. My son would be the oldest child she has ever treated. (13

mo by the time we get him casted) She has only treated younger babies.

>

> She is compiling a before and after portfolio, but does not currently have

one for me to look at. (About 2 weeks) She said until recently she could not

get parents to agree to allow their child's to be used. She did offer to give me

contact information for patient referrals. I know you are all thinking no

way.....

>

> But, she was very nice and spent an hour with us. She answered all my

questions and believe me I had 4 pages worth, lol! She did take the Starband

training in CA and seems very knowledgeable. She would be seeing him

weekly for adjustments and told us if we had a problem., she would fit us in

that day regardless of her schedule.

>

> I do have several discrepancy questions. Why does the DocBand require

more than one band in severe cases? She told me that he would just need

the one band and that she would adjust it for growth. She said they do not

need more than one band???? She also said that they do not use it past 18

months, whereas the DocBand is up to 24 months. Anyone know why?

>

> I'm sure I had more, but I have gone on long enough. Let me know what you

think! She could get us in ASAP to be casted and time is awasting! Thanks for

the help!

>

> Jen- TX

> Trentyn-1 StarBand or DocBand!

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Jen, this is a tough call for you! I can't make a decision for and

neither can anyone else. You have to do what you feel is best for

Trentyn. I will tell you that 100% correction is just crazy, in a

doctors stand-point. 's head looks 100% better to me than when

we began, but she didn't get 100% correction. The amount of

correction that a child receives during this correction is very

subjective. I can't imagine parents not wanting their child to be

photographed for before and after to show other patients.......Just

be on your toes with her if that is the route you decide to go. Just

remember, time is not on your side!

Dustie

--- In Plagiocephaly , " Reck " <reckjb@g...>

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> Hi everyone,

>

> We met with the Ortho today that Aetna is requiring me to use if I

want coverage. As I already posted, she has 1 year under her belt,

and 11 patients to date, actually 13 now as of yesterday. This was

our primary concern. I will post what I found out today and would

love feedback from everyone. I still feel very confused.....

>

> Of the 13 patients, 5 have completed their treatment. Of those 5,

all received 100% correction. My son would be the oldest child she

has ever treated. (13 mo by the time we get him casted) She has only

treated younger babies.

>

> She is compiling a before and after portfolio, but does not

currently have one for me to look at. (About 2 weeks) She said until

recently she could not get parents to agree to allow their child's to

be used. She did offer to give me contact information for patient

referrals. I know you are all thinking no way.....

>

> But, she was very nice and spent an hour with us. She answered all

my questions and believe me I had 4 pages worth, lol! She did take

the Starband training in CA and seems very knowledgeable. She would

be seeing him weekly for adjustments and told us if we had a

problem., she would fit us in that day regardless of her schedule.

>

> I do have several discrepancy questions. Why does the DocBand

require more than one band in severe cases? She told me that he would

just need the one band and that she would adjust it for growth. She

said they do not need more than one band???? She also said that they

do not use it past 18 months, whereas the DocBand is up to 24 months.

Anyone know why?

>

> I'm sure I had more, but I have gone on long enough. Let me know

what you think! She could get us in ASAP to be casted and time is

awasting! Thanks for the help!

>

> Jen- TX

> Trentyn-1 StarBand or DocBand!

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Hi Jen,

Sheesh, I know how this is! We had 3 to choose from: the DOC, the

STAR, and a Hanger band. We ultimately chose to travel out of state

(and out of insurance coverage) to get the DOCband. While we have

time on our side, I didn't want to risk it b/c of Hannah's severity.

I also wanted her to be in it for the shortest time possible. I

realize you don't have the time on your side, so that is a definite

consideration for you. The ortho you saw SOUNDS good, but I would be

so iffy without seeing the proof. With us, NOPCO was where she would

have gotten a STARband from. THey used to make their own helmet and

had just started using STARbands that month. I didn't want my

daughters head to be one of their guinea pigs! If it was her foot,

maybe I'd risk it? It would have been cheaper (if not completely

covered) and it would have been less than an hour drive instead of 3

hrs each way. Though I couldn't really afford to DOCband, I just had

to do what I felt was best for her. That's what they make credit

cards for, LOL! If all our insurance appeals get denied they we'll

do some fundraising or something. If you really felt comfortable

with her and believed what she's telling you (I think the 100% for

all her grads sounds a little sketchy) then finish your homework by

talking to some of her patients and doing an eval at CT. I'm sure

when you do that you'll really have the feeling as to which one is

right for you. Plus, if Dustie won her appeal, I bet you have a good

shot at it too. Good luck!

, mom to Hannah-5mos, DOCbanded 5/12

--- In Plagiocephaly , " Reck " <reckjb@g...>

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> Hi everyone,

>

> We met with the Ortho today that Aetna is requiring me to use if I

want coverage. As I already posted, she has 1 year under her belt,

and 11 patients to date, actually 13 now as of yesterday. This was

our primary concern. I will post what I found out today and would

love feedback from everyone. I still feel very confused.....

>

> Of the 13 patients, 5 have completed their treatment. Of those 5,

all received 100% correction. My son would be the oldest child she

has ever treated. (13 mo by the time we get him casted) She has only

treated younger babies.

>

> She is compiling a before and after portfolio, but does not

currently have one for me to look at. (About 2 weeks) She said until

recently she could not get parents to agree to allow their child's to

be used. She did offer to give me contact information for patient

referrals. I know you are all thinking no way.....

>

> But, she was very nice and spent an hour with us. She answered all

my questions and believe me I had 4 pages worth, lol! She did take

the Starband training in CA and seems very knowledgeable. She would

be seeing him weekly for adjustments and told us if we had a

problem., she would fit us in that day regardless of her schedule.

>

> I do have several discrepancy questions. Why does the DocBand

require more than one band in severe cases? She told me that he would

just need the one band and that she would adjust it for growth. She

said they do not need more than one band???? She also said that they

do not use it past 18 months, whereas the DocBand is up to 24 months.

Anyone know why?

>

> I'm sure I had more, but I have gone on long enough. Let me know

what you think! She could get us in ASAP to be casted and time is

awasting! Thanks for the help!

>

> Jen- TX

> Trentyn-1 StarBand or DocBand!

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Hi !

Thank you for your honesty. I know answering the which band question is a sticky one.

It has been a hard decision, but in the end his age has to be the strongest factor. If we had been banded at 4 months when I first took him in, I would try this Ortho without hesitation.

Unfortunately though, he will be 13 months before he is banded and I just don't have the time to go with someone that I think might be okay. In a few years, she may be well known for her wonderful care of plagio patients, but the level of experience is just not there yet.

At CT, I know what I am getting. Plus, insurance spoke with that Ortho today and sounded like getting approved would be a process even with her. So, on that note we will just suck it up and hope to get something on the back end through appeals.

Thank you to everyone that replied, your support and help has meant so much to me! This has been a hard situation but knowing that so many of you understood and had been there has made it so much easier!

We are casting for the DocBand on Tuesday, YEAH!!!!!

Jen- TX

Trentyn- 1 DocBand casting 06/03!

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Jen,I'm probably going to get blasted for saying this, but oh well. I think you should go w/the DOCband. I say this b/c your are guaranteed to have an orthotist that is EXPERIENCED in treating plagiocephaly. You don't have any time to waste. Time is NOT on your side. The window to correct plagio isn't a big one. You need an ortho that knows what they are doing and HAS treated older babies. You can get the with a DOCband ortho. If I offended anyone, I'm sorry. This is just my opinion, I'm not saying the STARband is a bad product because it's not. Please let us know what you decide.> Hi everyone,> > We met with the Ortho today that Aetna is requiring me to use if I want coverage. As I already posted, she has 1 year under her belt, and 11 patients to date, actually 13 now as of yesterday. This was our primary concern. I will post what I found out today and would love feedback from everyone. I still feel very confused.....> > Of the 13 patients, 5 have completed their treatment. Of those 5, all received 100% correction. My son would be the oldest child she has ever treated. (13 mo by the time we get him casted) She has only treated younger babies. > > She is compiling a before and after portfolio, but does not currently have one for me to look at. (About 2 weeks) She said until recently she could not get parents to agree to allow their child's to be used. She did offer to give me contact information for patient referrals. I know you are all thinking no way.....> > But, she was very nice and spent an hour with us. She answered all my questions and believe me I had 4 pages worth, lol! She did take the Starband training in CA and seems very knowledgeable. She would be seeing him weekly for adjustments and told us if we had a problem., she would fit us in that day regardless of her schedule. > > I do have several discrepancy questions. Why does the DocBand require more than one band in severe cases? She told me that he would just need the one band and that she would adjust it for growth. She said they do not need more than one band???? She also said that they do not use it past 18 months, whereas the DocBand is up to 24 months. Anyone know why? > > I'm sure I had more, but I have gone on long enough. Let me know what you think! She could get us in ASAP to be casted and time is awasting! Thanks for the help!> > Jen- TX> Trentyn-1 StarBand or DocBand!For more plagio info

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I hope Aetna will come thru for coverage, such a shame at how much insurance dictates treatment these days, who are they to say huh?

But I'm so happy to hear he'll be casted for the DOCband next Tues already!! Shew....good luck!!!

Debbie Abby's mom DOCGrad MI Reck <reckjb@...> wrote:

Hi !

Thank you for your honesty. I know answering the which band question is a sticky one.

It has been a hard decision, but in the end his age has to be the strongest factor. If we had been banded at 4 months when I first took him in, I would try this Ortho without hesitation.

Unfortunately though, he will be 13 months before he is banded and I just don't have the time to go with someone that I think might be okay. In a few years, she may be well known for her wonderful care of plagio patients, but the level of experience is just not there yet.

At CT, I know what I am getting. Plus, insurance spoke with that Ortho today and sounded like getting approved would be a process even with her. So, on that note we will just suck it up and hope to get something on the back end through appeals.

Thank you to everyone that replied, your support and help has meant so much to me! This has been a hard situation but knowing that so many of you understood and had been there has made it so much easier!

We are casting for the DocBand on Tuesday, YEAH!!!!!

Jen- TX

Trentyn- 1 DocBand casting 06/03!

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Jen you just use the lollipop to occupy him he wont choke on it and you are right there helping him we used a dumb dumb and it worked great was like hhhmm whats that and it helped.

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You can always put something special in his Sippy too-chocolate milk or special juiceor something like that.

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I am nervous about the casting, but I cannot wait to get his band on so it will be worth it! :)

Jen- TXTrentyn- 1 DocBand casting 06/03!

Re: Trentyn's ortho appt.> > > Jen,> I'm probably going to get blasted for saying this, but oh well. I > think you should go w/the DOCband. I say this b/c your are guaranteed > to have an orthotist that is EXPERIENCED in treating plagiocephaly. > You don't have any time to waste. Time is NOT on your side. The > window to correct plagio isn't a big one. You need an ortho that > knows what they are doing and HAS treated older babies. You can get > the with a DOCband ortho. If I offended anyone, I'm sorry. This is > just my opinion, I'm not saying the STARband is a bad product because > it's not. Please let us know what you decide.> > > > Hi everyone,> > > > We met with the Ortho today that Aetna is requiring me to use if I > want coverage. As I already posted, she has 1 year under her belt, > and 11 patients to date, actually 13 now as of yesterday. This was > our primary concern. I will post what I found out today and would > love feedback from everyone. I still feel very confused.....> > > > Of the 13 patients, 5 have completed their treatment. Of those 5, > all received 100% correction. My son would be the oldest child she > has ever treated. (13 mo by the time we get him casted) She has only > treated younger babies. > > > > She is compiling a before and after portfolio, but does not > currently have one for me to look at. (About 2 weeks) She said until > recently she could not get parents to agree to allow their child's to > be used. She did offer to give me contact information for patient > referrals. I know you are all thinking no way.....> > > > But, she was very nice and spent an hour with us. She answered all > my questions and believe me I had 4 pages worth, lol! She did take > the Starband training in CA and seems very knowledgeable. She would > be seeing him weekly for adjustments and told us if we had a > problem., she would fit us in that day regardless of her schedule. > > > > I do have several discrepancy questions. Why does the DocBand > require more than one band in severe cases? She told me that he would > just need the one band and that she would adjust it for growth. She > said they do not need more than one band???? She also said that they > do not use it past 18 months, whereas the DocBand is up to 24 months. > Anyone know why? > > > > I'm sure I had more, but I have gone on long enough. Let me know > what you think! She could get us in ASAP to be casted and time is > awasting! Thanks for the help!> > > > Jen- TX> > Trentyn-1 StarBand or DocBand!> > >

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It does irritate me how much we pay monthly and then in a crunch they do not even come through.... Of well, seems the nature of their business. Taking as much as our money as they can and then refusing to give any of it back, lol!

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I hope Aetna will come thru for coverage, such a shame at how much insurance dictates treatment these days, who are they to say huh?

But I'm so happy to hear he'll be casted for the DOCband next Tues already!! Shew....good luck!!!

Debbie Abby's mom DOCGrad MI Reck <reckjb@...> wrote:

Hi !

Thank you for your honesty. I know answering the which band question is a sticky one.

It has been a hard decision, but in the end his age has to be the strongest factor. If we had been banded at 4 months when I first took him in, I would try this Ortho without hesitation.

Unfortunately though, he will be 13 months before he is banded and I just don't have the time to go with someone that I think might be okay. In a few years, she may be well known for her wonderful care of plagio patients, but the level of experience is just not there yet.

At CT, I know what I am getting. Plus, insurance spoke with that Ortho today and sounded like getting approved would be a process even with her. So, on that note we will just suck it up and hope to get something on the back end through appeals.

Thank you to everyone that replied, your support and help has meant so much to me! This has been a hard situation but knowing that so many of you understood and had been there has made it so much easier!

We are casting for the DocBand on Tuesday, YEAH!!!!!

Jen- TX

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Yikes, he doesn't take a pacifier and he is on a sippy cup now. Don't laugh at me, but can he have a lollipop??? Won't he choke?

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Jen,The casting really isn't all that bad and it's over fast! Bring his pacifier (if he takes one) his bottle and musical/loud toys. And a lollipop. > > > Hi everyone,> > > > > > We met with the Ortho today that Aetna is requiring me to use > if I > > want coverage. As I already posted, she has 1 year under her > belt, > > and 11 patients to date, actually 13 now as of yesterday. This > was > > our primary concern. I will post what I found out today and would > > love feedback from everyone. I still feel very confused.....> > > > > > Of the 13 patients, 5 have completed their treatment. Of those > 5, > > all received 100% correction. My son would be the oldest child > she > > has ever treated. (13 mo by the time we get him casted) She has > only > > treated younger babies. > > > > > > She is compiling a before and after portfolio, but does not > > currently have one for me to look at. (About 2 weeks) She said > until > > recently she could not get parents to agree to allow their > child's to > > be used. She did offer to give me contact information for patient > > referrals. I know you are all thinking no way.....> > > > > > But, she was very nice and spent an hour with us. She answered > all > > my questions and believe me I had 4 pages worth, lol! She did > take > > the Starband training in CA and seems very knowledgeable. She > would > > be seeing him weekly for adjustments and told us if we had a > > problem., she would fit us in that day regardless of her > schedule. > > > > > > I do have several discrepancy questions. Why does the DocBand > > require more than one band in severe cases? She told me that he > would > > just need the one band and that she would adjust it for growth. > She > > said they do not need more than one band???? She also said that > they > > do not use it past 18 months, whereas the DocBand is up to 24 > months. > > Anyone know why? > > > > > > I'm sure I had more, but I have gone on long enough. Let me > know > > what you think! She could get us in ASAP to be casted and time is > > awasting! Thanks for the help!> > > > > > Jen- TX> > > Trentyn-1 StarBand or DocBand!> > > > > >

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Sadly, I'm not even a first time Mom, just an overprotective one, lol! My 5 year old is I think the last little girl in the world who has never had a soda, not even Sprite!

Anyway, thanks for the advice. I'm sure he will be thrilled to get a sucker! Anything to help. :)

Jen- TXTrentyn- 1 DocBand casting 06/03!

Re: Trentyn's ortho appt.

Hi Jen!I'm not laughing I was once a first time Mom. (I now have 6 kids) As long as you are right there supervising he can have a lollipop, a big one like a tootise roll pop. I wouldn't make it a habit of it, but it has helped many babies "get through" the casting process. It's something new and it tastes good! > > > > Hi everyone,> > > > > > > > We met with the Ortho today that Aetna is requiring me to > use > > if I > > > want coverage. As I already posted, she has 1 year under her > > belt, > > > and 11 patients to date, actually 13 now as of yesterday. > This > > was > > > our primary concern. I will post what I found out today and > would > > > love feedback from everyone. I still feel very confused.....> > > > > > > > Of the 13 patients, 5 have completed their treatment. Of > those > > 5, > > > all received 100% correction. My son would be the oldest > child > > she > > > has ever treated. (13 mo by the time we get him casted) She > has > > only > > > treated younger babies. > > > > > > > > She is compiling a before and after portfolio, but does not > > > currently have one for me to look at. (About 2 weeks) She > said > > until > > > recently she could not get parents to agree to allow their > > child's to > > > be used. She did offer to give me contact information for > patient > > > referrals. I know you are all thinking no way.....> > > > > > > > But, she was very nice and spent an hour with us. She > answered > > all > > > my questions and believe me I had 4 pages worth, lol! She did > > take > > > the Starband training in CA and seems very knowledgeable. She > > would > > > be seeing him weekly for adjustments and told us if we had a > > > problem., she would fit us in that day regardless of her > > schedule. > > > > > > > > I do have several discrepancy questions. Why does the > DocBand > > > require more than one band in severe cases? She told me that > he > > would > > > just need the one band and that she would adjust it for > growth. > > She > > > said they do not need more than one band???? She also said > that > > they > > > do not use it past 18 months, whereas the DocBand is up to 24 > > months. > > > Anyone know why? > > > > > > > > I'm sure I had more, but I have gone on long enough. Let me > > know > > > what you think! She could get us in ASAP to be casted and > time is > > > awasting! Thanks for the help!> > > > > > > > Jen- TX> > > > Trentyn-1 StarBand or DocBand!> > > > > > > > >

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