Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 I 'd be interested in people's comments on acceptance vs. putting up with. I feel like I'm trying to accept but the thoughts still have power over me.Thanks,BruceIn the U.S., classes in some college/university curricula are given numbers in the hundreds. A 101 class will be the basic introductory course in any discipline. Example: Spanish 101, Introduction to the Spanish language. Spanish 400/800 would be an advanced class for Spanish majors (400) and graduate students (800). Does that help clarify that Mindfulness 101 is mindfulness for beginners or mindfulness made simple? Of course, in the true spirit of mindfulness, we're always beginners. :-) Laurel--- On Fri, 10/24/08, Jesus C <jcc1777yahoo (DOT) es> wrote:From: Jesus C <jcc1777yahoo (DOT) es>Subject: GOOYMIYL page 100To: "ACT Group" <ACT_for_the_Public >Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 2:52 PMHi, there's a expression "Mindfulness 101", I didn't understand it. Could someone explain it?Thanks in advance.Peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Very funny, Ivor! The medical establishment is responsible for changing the name of this illness. Bipolar is the proper medical term for the illness and is actually a more accurate desciption because the symptoms in some people don't reach the manic or deeply depressed level, yet they experience mood swings. I am just so used to using the latest term while talking to my therapist, etc., that it comes naturally to me. The other term is still recognized, of course, but is not "official". I love your depiction of penguins being confused about which pole to go to -- bipolar indeed!Helena To: ACT_for_the_Public From: difor@...Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:15:14 +0000Subject: Acceptance Hi Helena I have been away in Madeira for 3 weeks holiday and have just looked through our emails and something struck me. Each time I wrote to you I mentioned the illness as manic depression whereas each time you replied you called it bipolar. Manic depression I feel describes exactly the illness and what the illness feels like. Bipolar on the other hand sounds more like a poor old penguin who doesn't know whether to go to the north pole or south pole. If society doesn't 'accept' the term manic depressive that is no reason why we who are practising ACT should not 'accept' a perfectly good description of the illness. Let's let bipolar go and find the penguins. LOL ivor my wife informs me that penguins are most definitely uni-polar as are most probably polar bears. joking apart we are in the business of acceptance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Of course I hate labels because to me they leave no room to be different from that label. For me it just keeps me stuck. I do not think of my anxiety as an illness anymore. It is a part of me that I deal with but it is just something I have to live with. I live a label for 6 years and didn't realize that what was keeping me in the problem. I hate diagnosis because then I am that and doesn't leave room to change even if it is ever so slight. Robyn Robyn Helena Rychener wrote: > > Very funny, Ivor! The medical establishment is responsible for > changing the name of this illness. Bipolar is the proper medical term > for the illness and is actually a more accurate desciption because the > symptoms in some people don't reach the manic or deeply depressed > level, yet they experience mood swings. I am just so used to using > the latest term while talking to my therapist, etc., that it comes > naturally to me. The other term is still recognized, of course, but > is not " official " . > > I love your depiction of penguins being confused about which pole to > go to -- bipolar indeed! > > Helena > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To: ACT_for_the_Public > From: difor@... > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:15:14 +0000 > Subject: Acceptance > > > > > Hi Helena > I have been away in Madeira for 3 weeks holiday and have just looked > through our emails and something struck me. Each time I wrote to you I > mentioned the illness as manic depression whereas each time you > replied you called it bipolar. > Manic depression I feel describes exactly the illness and what the > illness feels like. Bipolar on the other hand sounds more like a poor > old penguin who doesn't know whether to go to the north pole or south > pole. > If society doesn't 'accept' the term manic depressive that is no > reason why we who are practising ACT should not 'accept' a perfectly > good description of the illness. > Let's let bipolar go and find the penguins. > LOL > ivor > my wife informs me that penguins are most definitely uni-polar as are > most probably polar bears. > joking apart we are in the business of acceptance > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 There is no need to label yourself. Doctors need to do that for treatment and insurance purposes, but we as individuals don't need that. And if they get your label wrong, it can follow you for a lifetime. On the other hand, it can be comforting to find out that what has been wrong with you for years finally has a diagnosis; especially with medical problems. I personally didn't mind being diagnosed because it helped me to realize that it was not just my fault; I wasn't just a wacko. Helena To: ACT_for_the_Public From: robynabc@...Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:49:36 -0700Subject: Re: Acceptance Of course I hate labels because to me they leave no room to be different from that label. For me it just keeps me stuck. I do not think of my anxiety as an illness anymore. It is a part of me that I deal with but it is just something I have to live with. I live a label for 6 years and didn't realize that what was keeping me in the problem. I hate diagnosis because then I am that and doesn't leave room to change even if it is ever so slight.RobynRobynHelena Rychener wrote:>> Very funny, Ivor! The medical establishment is responsible for > changing the name of this illness. Bipolar is the proper medical term > for the illness and is actually a more accurate desciption because the > symptoms in some people don't reach the manic or deeply depressed > level, yet they experience mood swings. I am just so used to using > the latest term while talking to my therapist, etc., that it comes > naturally to me. The other term is still recognized, of course, but > is not "official".> > I love your depiction of penguins being confused about which pole to > go to -- bipolar indeed!>> Helena>> ---------------------------------------------------------->> To: ACT_for_the_Public > From: difortalktalk (DOT) net> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:15:14 +0000> Subject: Acceptance>>> >> Hi Helena> I have been away in Madeira for 3 weeks holiday and have just looked > through our emails and something struck me. Each time I wrote to you I > mentioned the illness as manic depression whereas each time you > replied you called it bipolar.> Manic depression I feel describes exactly the illness and what the > illness feels like. Bipolar on the other hand sounds more like a poor > old penguin who doesn't know whether to go to the north pole or south > pole.> If society doesn't 'accept' the term manic depressive that is no > reason why we who are practising ACT should not 'accept' a perfectly > good description of the illness.> Let's let bipolar go and find the penguins.> LOL> ivor> my wife informs me that penguins are most definitely uni-polar as are > most probably polar bears.> joking apart we are in the business of acceptance>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Good point Helena. I tend to get too stringent with that. Robyn Helena Rychener wrote: > > There is no need to label yourself. Doctors need to do that for > treatment and insurance purposes, but we as individuals don't need > that. And if they get your label wrong, it can follow you for a > lifetime. On the other hand, it can be comforting to find out that > what has been wrong with you for years finally has a diagnosis; > especially with medical problems. I personally didn't mind being > diagnosed because it helped me to realize that it was not just my > fault; I wasn't just a wacko. > > Helena > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To: ACT_for_the_Public > From: robynabc@... > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:49:36 -0700 > Subject: Re: Acceptance > > > Of course I hate labels because to me they leave no room to be different > from that label. For me it just keeps me stuck. I do not think of my > anxiety as an illness anymore. It is a part of me that I deal with but > it is just something I have to live with. I live a label for 6 years > and didn't realize that what was keeping me in the problem. I hate > diagnosis because then I am that and doesn't leave room to change even > if it is ever so slight. > > Robyn > > Robyn > > Helena Rychener wrote: > > > > Very funny, Ivor! The medical establishment is responsible for > > changing the name of this illness. Bipolar is the proper medical term > > for the illness and is actually a more accurate desciption because the > > symptoms in some people don't reach the manic or deeply depressed > > level, yet they experience mood swings. I am just so used to using > > the latest term while talking to my therapist, etc., that it comes > > naturally to me. The other term is still recognized, of course, but > > is not " official " . > > > > I love your depiction of penguins being confused about which pole to > > go to -- bipolar indeed! > > > > Helena > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To: ACT_for_the_Public > <mailto:ACT_for_the_Public > > > > > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:15:14 +0000 > > Subject: Acceptance > > > > > > > > > > Hi Helena > > I have been away in Madeira for 3 weeks holiday and have just looked > > through our emails and something struck me. Each time I wrote to you I > > mentioned the illness as manic depression whereas each time you > > replied you called it bipolar. > > Manic depression I feel describes exactly the illness and what the > > illness feels like. Bipolar on the other hand sounds more like a poor > > old penguin who doesn't know whether to go to the north pole or south > > pole. > > If society doesn't 'accept' the term manic depressive that is no > > reason why we who are practising ACT should not 'accept' a perfectly > > good description of the illness. > > Let's let bipolar go and find the penguins. > > LOL > > ivor > > my wife informs me that penguins are most definitely uni-polar as are > > most probably polar bears. > > joking apart we are in the business of acceptance > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 I don't like the word 'Official' but I have a very nice feeling about the word 'acceptance' For a laugh keep using the MD word with your therapist and watch him twitch. I assume he is not ACT Loving from afar again ( I was a little nearer in Madeira) i like that 'nearer in madeira' ivor Acceptance Hi HelenaI have been away in Madeira for 3 weeks holiday and have just looked through our emails and something struck me. Each time I wrote to you I mentioned the illness as manic depression whereas each time you replied you called it bipolar.Manic depression I feel describes exactly the illness and what the illness feels like. Bipolar on the other hand sounds more like a poor old penguin who doesn't know whether to go to the north pole or south pole. If society doesn't 'accept' the term manic depressive that is no reason why we who are practising ACT should not 'accept' a perfectly good description of the illness.Let's let bipolar go and find the penguins.LOL ivormy wife informs me that penguins are most definitely uni-polar as are most probably polar bears.joking apart we are in the business of acceptance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 My therapist is not an "official" (sorry!) ACT therapist but is familiar with the principles. She likes how it has made a difference in me and is strongly supportive. I don't see her anymore -- just occasional phone calls to check up. Acceptingly yours, Helena Acceptance Hi HelenaI have been away in Madeira for 3 weeks holiday and have just looked through our emails and something struck me. Each time I wrote to you I mentioned the illness as manic depression whereas each time you replied you called it bipolar.Manic depression I feel describes exactly the illness and what the illness feels like. Bipolar on the other hand sounds more like a poor old penguin who doesn't know whether to go to the north pole or south pole. If society doesn't 'accept' the term manic depressive that is no reason why we who are practising ACT should not 'accept' a perfectly good description of the illness.Let's let bipolar go and find the penguins.LOL ivormy wife informs me that penguins are most definitely uni-polar as are most probably polar bears.joking apart we are in the business of acceptance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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