Guest guest Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 >I've just searched our messages found some good discussions that were quite >helpful. I didn't see any technical information in the files section >though...is there something that I'm overlooking? I basically want to learn more about >how the polymers work, the neutralization, etc. Here ya go: http://www.personalcare.noveoninc.com/products/pemulen.asp >I would rather not have to >fool with neutralization if possible, is there some polymer other than the >Pemulen that does not require neutralization? Here are just three possibilities: Sepigel 305 (Polyacrylamide (and) C13-14 Isoparaffin (and) Laureth-7) Novemer EC-1 Polymer (Acrylates/Acrylamide Copolymer and Mineral Oil and Polysorbate-85) Salcare SC91 (Sodium Acrylates Copolymer (and) Mineral Oil (and) PPG-1 Trideceth-6) Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 Angie, I like how the polymers work for some applications, but I have found the smell of some to be objectionable (specifically TBG's liquid polymer, which I have played with the most). This smell cannot be covered with fragrance/EO's, in my opinion. Many folks cannot smell it, but that do - whoa! I (and a few of my testers) can detect it in 1/2% (of a formulation) quantities. I hope you can find one that not only requires no neutralization, but also has little odor (a " plastic-y " type of smell, very distinct). If you do, I hope you'll consider carrying it Kind regards, Barbie Sweet Scents LLC > I basically want to learn more about > >how the polymers work, the neutralization, etc. > (Angie) > > Here are just three possibilities: > > Sepigel 305 (Polyacrylamide (and) C13-14 Isoparaffin (and) Laureth- 7) > Novemer EC-1 Polymer (Acrylates/Acrylamide Copolymer and Mineral Oil and Polysorbate-85) > Salcare SC91 (Sodium Acrylates Copolymer (and) Mineral Oil (and) PPG-1 Trideceth-6) > > (Maurice) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2003 Report Share Posted August 5, 2003 > > >Hi Maurice and All, >I've just searched our messages found some good discussions that were quite >helpful. I didn't see any technical information in the files section >though...is there something that I'm overlooking? I basically want >to learn more about >how the polymers work, the neutralization, etc. I would rather not have to >fool with neutralization if possible, is there some polymer other than the >Pemulen that does not require neutralization? Speaking of the polymers, I bought a couple from Jen S. a while back and the labels have faded. Does anyone remember the chemical name for these (she renamed them). One was a gel type and the other was TR-1 or TR-2, IIRC. TIA, Kathy Batts- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2003 Report Share Posted August 6, 2003 >Speaking of the polymers, I bought a couple from Jen S. a while back >and the labels have faded. Does anyone remember the chemical name for >these (she renamed them). One was a gel type and the other was TR-1 >or TR-2, IIRC. As I recall, Jen sold PolyEm and PolyGel. I think PolyEm was Pemulen TR1 (or TR2) and the PolyGel was Carbopol ETD 2020. Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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