Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Hi Guys, Jumping in here again. I found at my old house today, a bottle of Everclear I bought to make Kahlua about 10 years ago:)) Its just a pint, but it came from North Dakota. This says its 95% Alchohol by nature, (190 proof) Then it says in big letters " Grain Alchohol " Distilled from 100% Selected Grains - (100% selected? Well, duh....lol...) AND it has a picture of an ear of corn on it! rofl...HOOTCH! Anyhow, it also says its not intended for consumption unless mixed with non alchoholic beverages, and that it could ignite and explode near flames:)) Not to drink in excessive quantities. This does NOT look like the label on the stuff I get here in Minnesota. But you can buy it, just at a lower alchohol content. You know, why couldn't you just use Smirnoff. Its 100 proof. ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 11:50:25 -0700 (PDT), Jeannie Harrington wrote: >I thought that Everclear was considered a grain alcohol, therefore it could not be used as a raw ingredient in cosmetics. That's news to me. > I purchase two bottles of Everclear three months ago and returned it because I was told by FDA that grain alcohol was not listed as an acceptable alcohol for cosmetics usage. Did you get a name? >1.) Is Everclear actually considered a grain alcohol or Ethyl Alcohol as you recently stated? Everclear is Ethyl Alcohol made from grain. >2.) Are their any FDA regulations regarding the use of Everclear in Cosmetics? I'm not aware of any FDA regs regarding the use of Everclear in cosmetics. >3.) If you purchase your Everclear and paid the applicable taxes levied, can it be used in cosmetics if their are no FDA regulations? From a BATF perspective (aka federal), I'd say the answer is yes. The state regulations may vary. I'm still curious about the FDA employee that said " grain alcohol was not listed as an acceptable alcohol for cosmetics usage " . >4.) If Everclear can be used in my cosmetic formulations, should I check with the city of Chicago to see if there are some kind of regulations against it? So far I have not been able to locate Everclear for sell in Chicago. I'd check with the city as well as the state liquor board. >I understand that Everclear is considered denatured alcohol, however it is sold at a liquor depot in a local suburb not far from my house. Therefore, I believe it is being consumed by consumers to some degree. If that is the case, how can it be considered denatured (not fit for human consumption)? Based on my own studies, I can assure you that Everclear is NOT denatured in any way. Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 > 2.) Are their any FDA regulations regarding the use of Everclear in Cosmetics? Not to my knowledge. > 3.) If you purchase your Everclear and paid the applicable taxes levied, can it be used in cosmetics if their are no FDA regulations? Yes, but why would you want to, it is an expensive way to go. > 4.) If Everclear can be used in my cosmetic formulations, should I check with the city of Chicago to see if there are some kind of regulations against it? So far I have not been able to locate Everclear for sell in Chicago. You should check with the city and also the State of ILL. > I understand that Everclear is considered denatured alcohol, however it is sold at a liquor depot in a local suburb not far from my house. No, Everclear is not denatured. It is a very strong drinkable alcohol. Wisconsin carries it at 190 proof which is 95% pure grain alcohol. I have heard that there is a weaker version, but I have never seen it. > I thought that Everclear was considered a grain alcohol, therefore it could not be used as a raw ingredient in cosmetics. I purchase two bottles of Everclear three months ago and returned it because I was told by FDA that grain alcohol was not listed as an acceptable alcohol for cosmetics usage. Not listed and not legal are not the same thing. I don't know why the FDA would be concerned about it. I think that if you are going to run into a problem that it would most likely be at the local end. Two things to keep in mind. ATF controls liquor at the Federal level. They have laid out very specific formulas for denaturing alcohol...you will find a link in our links section. It has been a while since I looked at the rules, but you just can't denature your own alcohol, this has to be done with an approved company. So if I am correct, the Everclear would not be classified as denatured and theoretically, you are selling booze without a license. Most States require that you either have an on-sale (bar) or off-sale license to sell booze and some States are dry and do not allow any booze. Then there are the under age laws. You know if you plan on selling much of this you would be money ahead buying the permit. Pat. Peace, Joy, Serenity House of Scents tm. Body Oils, Fragrance Oils, Incense, Candles, Soap, Etc. pat@... http://www.houseofscents.com/ ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Everclear is not sold in the state of Pennsylvania, due to the fact that it is illegal here. So what happens if you use Everclear in something....a body spray perhaps....wouldn't it still be illegal to sell this in PA? Wondering if it's illegal in any other states? Walters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 you can get everclear/grain alcohol in Pa but you have to fill some forms out to do it. I didn't check into completely but was told shouldn't be a problem selling since is not for consumption. Patty Re: Everclear Everclear is not sold in the state of Pennsylvania, due to the fact that it is illegal here. So what happens if you use Everclear in something....a body spray perhaps....wouldn't it still be illegal to sell this in PA? Wondering if it's illegal in any other states? Walters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Hi guys, In FL, the sale of pure Everclear is outlawed, because of its combustibility. We can only get 165 proof " Everclear " . 190 proof is sold in GA. So, whenever going out of state, a couple of 2 liter bottles are brought back for making my vanilla extract. Blessings to all, House of Scents tm wrote: > > I understand that Everclear is considered denatured alcohol, however it is > sold at a liquor depot in a local suburb not far from my house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2003 Report Share Posted June 12, 2003 > Wondering if it's illegal in any other states? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` It is also illegal in Massachusetts, according to my BIL who is a State Policeman. Tracey =^..^= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2003 Report Share Posted June 12, 2003 I bet those studies resulted in some INTERESTING findings... Jules/Vancouver BC --- In Cosmeticinfo , " Maurice O. Hevey " > > Based on my own studies, I can assure you that Everclear is NOT denatured in any way. > > Maurice > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Maurice O. Hevey > Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. > http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com > ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2003 Report Share Posted June 13, 2003 In a message dated 6/13/2003 10:33:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Cosmeticinfo writes: > Subject: Re: Everclear > > >Wondering if it's illegal in any other states? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` > It is also illegal in Massachusetts, according to my BIL who is a > State Policeman. > Tracey =^..^= I just happened upon this message & don't know what has been previously discussed, but, I know from recent experience that it is also illegal here in Ohio. I wanted some to use in my toiletry recipes and stopped at a liquor store and asked the clerk if she had something called " Everclear " . She looked at me kinda strangely & said yes she had 1 bottle but that she could not sell it to me unless I was a doctor or had a prescription. I was rather taken aback and felt pretty stupid for not knowing. After I left, though, I got to thinking about it all and it made me mad that I couldn't buy it. Plus I got to wondering what on earth would necessitate someone needing a prescription for grain alcohol for??? Just my 2 cents worth! T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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