Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 Rod, it was very thoughtful of you to take the time to write. It is true that we live in a toxic world. It is also true that there are many different theories as to what is the cause of FM. Because of our present system of distribution and work habits we no longer get the benefits from food that our bodies need. Science is working on unravelling the workings of the body at the cellular level and many astonishing discoveries have been made in the last 50 years. The toxic effects of the environment is only one of them. Many times when we find something that we personally feel fits our condition we get on a soapbox and want to save the world. While this is an admirable quality, unfortunately there is never only one way of looking at something and there is never one cure that will fit all. I just want to make it clear that: Never did I consider myself insane! I have never had Uncontrollable crying, memory loss, suicidal tendencies, compulsive behaviour, poor self-control and will power or very bad judgement and extremely emotional. And I don't and haven't had problem holding myself together under the slightest pressure like organizing my sock drawer. And I am not a basket case. and it is extremely unlikely that I have MERCURY/heavy metal Poisoning-particularly of the BRAIN. People with FM are not insane, People with FM do not necessarily have Mercury poisoning. If your problem was as you state Mercury poisoning then I am happy you have found the solution. However, if you also have FM and wish to discuss methods to overcome this, I will be happy to correspond. I repeat: People with FM are not insane, People with FM do not necessarily have Mercury poisoning. LouGuaif-10 days , Sometimes a little knowledge is not enough! E- rollercoaster/POISONING!! "I believe, also, that the emotion probably comes from the FM. I will be talking to my daughter, for instance, and tears will just well up, like right now. I think it is because I am no longer the person I was. I have a very difficult time making decisions when I am in a flare! I can't decide which cupboard I should keep the dishes in. I have felt completely disorganized. I needed to know ahead of time so I could prepare for the most small ridiculous things. If I didn't then I had severe panic attacks." "I now feel this is a problem with the body chemistry."There are many types of poisoning too numerous to mention here but I will once again focus on MERCURY/heavy metal Poisoning-particularly of the BRAIN.The Brain is divided into numerous sections. The CEREBRUM is one of these sections and "The Frontal Lobe" is a section of the CEREBRUM. It controls our emotions, judgement, self-control, and will power. The frontal Lobe is what they affect when they use to do a LOBOTOMY on a "SUPPOSED" psychiatric patient. It cured them of there "RAGE" but left them without "PERSONALITY".Mercury and other Metals have an affinity for the BRAIN. They can cross over the BLOOD-BRAIN barrier(this is the system which maintains the central nervous system free of organisms and toxins). Once there it can collected in the CEREBRUM and FRONTAL LOBE as well as the rest of the CEREBRUM which controls the senses of taste, smell, touch, sight(occipital lobe), and hearing(temporal lobe). It can also collect in various nerve plexuses(groups of nerves or neurons) throughout the rest of the body.MICRO-MERCURIALISM(long term, low level, MERCURY poisoning) is characterized by FATIQUE, SHORT TERM MEMORY loss, "POOR" Concentration, and OBSESSIVE, PHOBIC, and compulsive behavior, through to SUICIDAL Tendencies. These are early neurological symptoms. SHAKES and neuro-motor interference are usually later symptoms.If it is in the FRONTAL lobe it can effect your EMOTIONS, JUDGEMENT, WILL POWER, and SELF CONTROL.We all know of another "POISON" that does this. ALCOHOL!!!! It also crosses the blood-brain barrier into every part of your brian including the FRONTAL LOBE causing similar symptoms. Anything that is foreign(living or non-living) that gets into your FRONTAL LOBE has the potential to cause the same type of problems. The diference is that ALCOHOL has an immediate effect(plus many different effects) and is also detoxed quickly so the effect is lost quickly. Mercury/Metals from tooth fillings build up slowly depending on your age, nutrition, amount of fillings, heredity etc. The effect is very gradual so that the victim just thinks they are "LOSING IT". That they have a "MENTAL" disease. That they need "SHOCK THERAPY" or need to be "LOCKED UP". That they just can't handle life or are "DEPRESSED" etc.Because there is no real medical test for this the patient is sent to a "PSYCHIATRIST". The stupid thing is that there does not need to be a "MEDICAL" test for this. When one consumes ALCOHOL they feel the effects. They know they have alcohol in their system. They do not need a test. The same is true for mercury/metal poisoning.In 1991 the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION found that the main source of mercury exposure and absorption is from DENTAL AMALGAM FILLINGS-up to ten times the amount you might get from fish and seafood. They also concluded that there is NO safe level of MERCURY vapour.I had all the symptoms mentioned so far except shakes. Uncontrollable crying, FIBROFOG, memory loss, suicidal tendancies,fatique, poor concentration, compulsive behavoir, poor self-control and will power plus very bad judgement and extremely emotional. I couldn't hold myself together under the slightest pressure like organizing my sock drawer.All of my mental symptoms are severely diminished or gone. I was not a basket case after all and all those years of counselling did nothing to cure me. I have confidence again and it's great because people don't expect it and I like it.An electronic test that can indicate if you have a problem with mercury is called a VEGA. If you have fillings though, you can assume you have some degree of mercury poisoning.Anyone reading this should study up on safe removal of fillings and how to clean the metal out of your body. You are NOT INSANE. And there is hope!RodP.S. For more on this an other poisons read "Cure for all Cancers" and others by Hulda CLark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 why are you cross posting this info? sparrow Re: E- rollercoaster/POISONING!! Rod, it was very thoughtful of you to take the time to write. It is true that we live in a toxic world. It is also true that there are many different theories as to what is the cause of FM. Because of our present system of distribution and work habits we no longer get the benefits from food that our bodies need. Science is working on unravelling the workings of the body at the cellular level and many astonishing discoveries have been made in the last 50 years. The toxic effects of the environment is only one of them. Many times when we find something that we personally feel fits our condition we get on a soapbox and want to save the world. While this is an admirable quality, unfortunately there is never only one way of looking at something and there is never one cure that will fit all. I just want to make it clear that: Never did I consider myself insane! I have never had Uncontrollable crying, memory loss, suicidal tendencies, compulsive behaviour, poor self-control and will power or very bad judgement and extremely emotional. And I don't and haven't had problem holding myself together under the slightest pressure like organizing my sock drawer. And I am not a basket case. and it is extremely unlikely that I have MERCURY/heavy metal Poisoning-particularly of the BRAIN. People with FM are not insane, People with FM do not necessarily have Mercury poisoning. If your problem was as you state Mercury poisoning then I am happy you have found the solution. However, if you also have FM and wish to discuss methods to overcome this, I will be happy to correspond. I repeat: People with FM are not insane, People with FM do not necessarily have Mercury poisoning. LouGuaif-10 days , Sometimes a little knowledge is not enough! E- rollercoaster/POISONING!! "I believe, also, that the emotion probably comes from the FM. I will be talking to my daughter, for instance, and tears will just well up, like right now. I think it is because I am no longer the person I was. I have a very difficult time making decisions when I am in a flare! I can't decide which cupboard I should keep the dishes in. I have felt completely disorganized. I needed to know ahead of time so I could prepare for the most small ridiculous things. If I didn't then I had severe panic attacks." "I now feel this is a problem with the body chemistry."There are many types of poisoning too numerous to mention here but I will once again focus on MERCURY/heavy metal Poisoning-particularly of the BRAIN.The Brain is divided into numerous sections. The CEREBRUM is one of these sections and "The Frontal Lobe" is a section of the CEREBRUM. It controls our emotions, judgement, self-control, and will power. The frontal Lobe is what they affect when they use to do a LOBOTOMY on a "SUPPOSED" psychiatric patient. It cured them of there "RAGE" but left them without "PERSONALITY".Mercury and other Metals have an affinity for the BRAIN. They can cross over the BLOOD-BRAIN barrier(this is the system which maintains the central nervous system free of organisms and toxins). Once there it can collected in the CEREBRUM and FRONTAL LOBE as well as the rest of the CEREBRUM which controls the senses of taste, smell, touch, sight(occipital lobe), and hearing(temporal lobe). It can also collect in various nerve plexuses(groups of nerves or neurons) throughout the rest of the body.MICRO-MERCURIALISM(long term, low level, MERCURY poisoning) is characterized by FATIQUE, SHORT TERM MEMORY loss, "POOR" Concentration, and OBSESSIVE, PHOBIC, and compulsive behavior, through to SUICIDAL Tendencies. These are early neurological symptoms. SHAKES and neuro-motor interference are usually later symptoms.If it is in the FRONTAL lobe it can effect your EMOTIONS, JUDGEMENT, WILL POWER, and SELF CONTROL.We all know of another "POISON" that does this. ALCOHOL!!!! It also crosses the blood-brain barrier into every part of your brian including the FRONTAL LOBE causing similar symptoms. Anything that is foreign(living or non-living) that gets into your FRONTAL LOBE has the potential to cause the same type of problems. The diference is that ALCOHOL has an immediate effect(plus many different effects) and is also detoxed quickly so the effect is lost quickly. Mercury/Metals from tooth fillings build up slowly depending on your age, nutrition, amount of fillings, heredity etc. The effect is very gradual so that the victim just thinks they are "LOSING IT". That they have a "MENTAL" disease. That they need "SHOCK THERAPY" or need to be "LOCKED UP". That they just can't handle life or are "DEPRESSED" etc.Because there is no real medical test for this the patient is sent to a "PSYCHIATRIST". The stupid thing is that there does not need to be a "MEDICAL" test for this. When one consumes ALCOHOL they feel the effects. They know they have alcohol in their system. They do not need a test. The same is true for mercury/metal poisoning.In 1991 the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION found that the main source of mercury exposure and absorption is from DENTAL AMALGAM FILLINGS-up to ten times the amount you might get from fish and seafood. They also concluded that there is NO safe level of MERCURY vapour.I had all the symptoms mentioned so far except shakes. Uncontrollable crying, FIBROFOG, memory loss, suicidal tendancies,fatique, poor concentration, compulsive behavoir, poor self-control and will power plus very bad judgement and extremely emotional. I couldn't hold myself together under the slightest pressure like organizing my sock drawer.All of my mental symptoms are severely diminished or gone. I was not a basket case after all and all those years of counselling did nothing to cure me. I have confidence again and it's great because people don't expect it and I like it.An electronic test that can indicate if you have a problem with mercury is called a VEGA. If you have fillings though, you can assume you have some degree of mercury poisoning.Anyone reading this should study up on safe removal of fillings and how to clean the metal out of your body. You are NOT INSANE. And there is hope!RodP.S. For more on this an other poisons read "Cure for all Cancers" and others by Hulda CLark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 > " It is also true that there are many different theories as to what is the cause of FM. " > " Because of our present system of distribution and work habits we no longer get the benefits from food that our bodies need. Science is working on unravelling the workings of the body at the cellular level and many astonishing discoveries have been made in the last 50 years. The toxic effects of the environment is only one of them. " Upon studying Books by HULDA CLARK and using Electronic testing methods my understanding of pollution has been greatly expanded. I never realized the extent of pollution in our everyday products from tooth paste to shampoo to soap to hair spray to cereal and other processed foods. Gas leaks form our furnaces. Freon leaks from the fridge. Benzene pollution in are vegtables, FastGreen(dye in fruits), PCB's (in detergent). Pollution from panelling. AZO dye polltion in clothing and hair dye and plastic teeth. Radon gas from basement Cracks, Solvents in pop and fruit juices etc. The list goes on. Micro amounts of these can disrupt your cellular function. According to Dr. , she never sees illness actually caused from nutritionally deficiency, stress, lack of sleep or genetics directly. It is almost always Parasites and Pollution that are robbing your body of nutrients, disrupting your DNA etc. She even finds that people can cut back their nutrients many times to the RDA once these things are removed from the body. " there is never only one way of looking at something and there is never one cure that will fit all. " > " I repeat: People with FM are not insane, People with FM do not necessarily have Mercury poisoning. " Yes, people with FM are not insane. That was just and example of how one can feel especially from there own Doctor. People with FM do not necessarily have Mercury Poisoning either. There is plenty of other things out there that can mimick the same symptoms. Fatique for example is a symptom of many disorders and can't be pinned down to one thing. But I believe it can be pinned down to a class of things: namely parasites and pollution. Removing Mercury has only been part of the process for me and most people. Very rarely will a person remove mercury or do one thing and they are completely cured. I have Detoxed or removed BENZENE, Isopropyl Alcohol, 3 other solvents, Candida, 13 other heavy metals, Rare earth metals, Phenol, Aflatoxin(mold toxin from many grains and nuts, Zeralonone(mold toxin in procesed corn products), Formaldehyde (foam pillow), Patulin(mold toxin in fruits), Malonic Acid(food and plastic teeth), PCB's(detergent and soaps)and killed off numerous bacteria, viruses, and parasite including Intestinal Flukes and round worms. It is never the same thing for everyone. It is almost always multi- poisoning. A good ELECTRONIC test like a VEGA or Eletrodermal Screening or Synchrometer would be able to show a person what is affecting them personally. More info on this is found in " The Cure for all Diseases " and " Cure for all Cancers " and others by Hulda . Also http://www.drclark.net I would encourage anyone to get a hold of this information and put it into practice to see if it can work for them like it has for many others! This type of eye-opening information has done more for me than anything else over 8 years. Rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 > i agree Rod, that Hulda is a great resource...and i have used her > Liver Cleanser with great results... > but she does see that the way our insides got bad is from the outside pollution that enters our bodies. > have you read her books? > sparrow True enough!!! I have been sick like many for numerous years and am desperate to recover as fully as possible. I am into detoxing or eliminating as much pollution as is humanly posible as suggested in all her books. As a result I will finally be able to start a proper physical rehab soon. Rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 The original post was cross-posted E- rollercoaster/POISONING!! "I believe, also, that the emotion probably comes from the FM. I will be talking to my daughter, for instance, and tears will just well up, like right now. I think it is because I am no longer the person I was. I have a very difficult time making decisions when I am in a flare! I can't decide which cupboard I should keep the dishes in. I have felt completely disorganized. I needed to know ahead of time so I could prepare for the most small ridiculous things. If I didn't then I had severe panic attacks." "I now feel this is a problem with the body chemistry."There are many types of poisoning too numerous to mention here but I will once again focus on MERCURY/heavy metal Poisoning-particularly of the BRAIN.The Brain is divided into numerous sections. The CEREBRUM is one of these sections and "The Frontal Lobe" is a section of the CEREBRUM. It controls our emotions, judgement, self-control, and will power. The frontal Lobe is what they affect when they use to do a LOBOTOMY on a "SUPPOSED" psychiatric patient. It cured them of there "RAGE" but left them without "PERSONALITY".Mercury and other Metals have an affinity for the BRAIN. They can cross over the BLOOD-BRAIN barrier(this is the system which maintains the central nervous system free of organisms and toxins). Once there it can collected in the CEREBRUM and FRONTAL LOBE as well as the rest of the CEREBRUM which controls the senses of taste, smell, touch, sight(occipital lobe), and hearing(temporal lobe). It can also collect in various nerve plexuses(groups of nerves or neurons) throughout the rest of the body.MICRO-MERCURIALISM(long term, low level, MERCURY poisoning) is characterized by FATIQUE, SHORT TERM MEMORY loss, "POOR" Concentration, and OBSESSIVE, PHOBIC, and compulsive behavior, through to SUICIDAL Tendencies. These are early neurological symptoms. SHAKES and neuro-motor interference are usually later symptoms.If it is in the FRONTAL lobe it can effect your EMOTIONS, JUDGEMENT, WILL POWER, and SELF CONTROL.We all know of another "POISON" that does this. ALCOHOL!!!! It also crosses the blood-brain barrier into every part of your brian including the FRONTAL LOBE causing similar symptoms. Anything that is foreign(living or non-living) that gets into your FRONTAL LOBE has the potential to cause the same type of problems. The diference is that ALCOHOL has an immediate effect(plus many different effects) and is also detoxed quickly so the effect is lost quickly. Mercury/Metals from tooth fillings build up slowly depending on your age, nutrition, amount of fillings, heredity etc. The effect is very gradual so that the victim just thinks they are "LOSING IT". That they have a "MENTAL" disease. That they need "SHOCK THERAPY" or need to be "LOCKED UP". That they just can't handle life or are "DEPRESSED" etc.Because there is no real medical test for this the patient is sent to a "PSYCHIATRIST". The stupid thing is that there does not need to be a "MEDICAL" test for this. When one consumes ALCOHOL they feel the effects. They know they have alcohol in their system. They do not need a test. The same is true for mercury/metal poisoning.In 1991 the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION found that the main source of mercury exposure and absorption is from DENTAL AMALGAM FILLINGS-up to ten times the amount you might get from fish and seafood. They also concluded that there is NO safe level of MERCURY vapour.I had all the symptoms mentioned so far except shakes. Uncontrollable crying, FIBROFOG, memory loss, suicidal tendancies,fatique, poor concentration, compulsive behavoir, poor self-control and will power plus very bad judgement and extremely emotional. I couldn't hold myself together under the slightest pressure like organizing my sock drawer.All of my mental symptoms are severely diminished or gone. I was not a basket case after all and all those years of counselling did nothing to cure me. I have confidence again and it's great because people don't expect it and I like it.An electronic test that can indicate if you have a problem with mercury is called a VEGA. If you have fillings though, you can assume you have some degree of mercury poisoning.Anyone reading this should study up on safe removal of fillings and how to clean the metal out of your body. You are NOT INSANE. And there is hope!RodP.S. For more on this an other poisons read "Cure for all Cancers" and others by Hulda CLark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2001 Report Share Posted March 24, 2001 I'm experiencing something really nice at the moment. My aches have almost disappeared over the past hour. I've had them constantly for the last 3-4 weeks. I've been taking HSO's for the past 2 months for my yeast problem and internally feel great. Also started taking proanthenols about 10 days ago. I think I started taking too many (4 a day) and my aches increased significantly. Yesterday I reduced to 3 a day. I also started taking 4 Devil's Claw a day about 4 days ago. I'm curious, has anyone tried Devil's Claw and what were the results. I started taking it because it was recommended to my Mom by her doctor for a tendonitis problem but apparently it's used for lots of inflammatory conditions including myalgia. I think my symptoms are caused by a number of problems including yeast and scoliosis. I always have muscle spasms around my neck, shoulders and upper back. I don't know if I have FMS but I do know that the trigger points hurt and when I had massages I couldn't believe how many sore points I had on my body. Margaret --- mlpearson wrote: > The original post was cross-posted > E- > rollercoaster/POISONING!! > > > > > " I believe, also, that the emotion probably > comes from the FM. I will > be talking to my daughter, for instance, and > tears will just well up, > like right now. I think it is because I am no > longer the person I > was. I have a very difficult time making > decisions when I am in a > flare! I can't decide which cupboard I should > keep the dishes in. I > have felt completely disorganized. I needed to > know ahead of time so > I could prepare for the most small ridiculous > things. If I didn't > then I had severe panic attacks. " > > " I now feel this is a problem with the body > chemistry. " > > > There are many types of poisoning too numerous > to mention here but I > will once again focus on MERCURY/heavy metal > Poisoning-particularly > of the BRAIN. > > The Brain is divided into numerous sections. > The CEREBRUM is one of > these sections and " The Frontal Lobe " is a > section of the CEREBRUM. > It controls our emotions, judgement, > self-control, and will power. > The frontal Lobe is what they affect when they > use to do a LOBOTOMY > on a " SUPPOSED " psychiatric patient. It cured > them of there " RAGE " > but left them without " PERSONALITY " . > > Mercury and other Metals have an affinity for > the BRAIN. They can > cross over the BLOOD-BRAIN barrier(this is the > system which maintains > the central nervous system free of organisms > and toxins). Once there > it can collected in the CEREBRUM and FRONTAL > LOBE as well as the rest > of the CEREBRUM which controls the senses of > taste, smell, touch, > sight(occipital lobe), and hearing(temporal > lobe). It can also > collect in various nerve plexuses(groups of > nerves or neurons) > throughout the rest of the body. > > MICRO-MERCURIALISM(long term, low level, > MERCURY poisoning) is > characterized by FATIQUE, > SHORT TERM MEMORY loss, > " POOR " Concentration, and > OBSESSIVE, PHOBIC, > and compulsive behavior, > through to SUICIDAL > Tendencies. These are early > neurological symptoms. > SHAKES and neuro-motor > interference are usually > later symptoms. > > If it is in the FRONTAL lobe it can effect > your EMOTIONS, JUDGEMENT, > WILL POWER, and SELF CONTROL. > > We all know of another " POISON " that does > this. ALCOHOL!!!! It also > crosses the blood-brain barrier into every > part of your brian > including the FRONTAL LOBE causing similar > symptoms. Anything that > is foreign(living or non-living) that gets > into your FRONTAL LOBE has > the potential to cause the same type of > problems. > > The diference is that ALCOHOL has an immediate > effect(plus many > different effects) and is also detoxed quickly > so the effect is lost > quickly. > > Mercury/Metals from tooth fillings build up > slowly depending on your > age, nutrition, amount of fillings, heredity > etc. The effect is very > gradual so that the victim just thinks they > are " LOSING IT " . That > they have a " MENTAL " disease. That they need > " SHOCK THERAPY " or need > to be " LOCKED UP " . That they just can't handle > life or are > " DEPRESSED " etc. > > Because there is no real medical test for this > the patient is sent to > a " PSYCHIATRIST " . > > The stupid thing is that there does not need > to be a " MEDICAL " test > for this. When one consumes ALCOHOL they feel > the effects. They know > they have alcohol in their system. They do not > need a test. The same > is true for mercury/metal poisoning. > > In 1991 the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION found > that the main source of > mercury exposure and absorption is from DENTAL > AMALGAM FILLINGS-up to > ten times the amount you might get from fish > and seafood. They also > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2001 Report Share Posted March 27, 2001 I'm saving to begin getting merc out of my mouth, and changing my diet on a permanent basis. I've already eliminated chlorine from most of the house, and all detergents. We wash everything in soap, with no petroleum distillates or chemical detergents added. I'm getting rid of most of the carpet in the house to reduce dust allergens. " AND, SLOWLY I IMPROVE WITH EACH CHANGE " . > Jim. This is it. There is no instant " CURE " . It is in small steps that must be maintained till metabolism is restored, cells, tissues, and organs heal and can function normally again. It could take up to two years of " AVOIDING BAD THINGS " and " TAKING GOOD THINGS " to be deemed in " PERFECT HEALTH " or as best as you can get. I belief the avoidance is the more important of the two. Fortunatly relief happens with each bodily clean up and with it more life functioning ability. Rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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